Guest guest Posted May 2, 2001 Report Share Posted May 2, 2001 No you aren't alone. It is nationwide and pretty bad. There is a survey at merginet (http://www.merginet.com/) that is attempting to gauge how bad the system itself, and numerous letters to state and federal politicians at the " emergency grapevine " , ruralmedics.com, and emsvillage, all of which underscore the numbers of EMS providers leaving the field. They are all available to download and hopefully provide a template for letters to the editor, politicans, and other interested parties. I believe the healthcare crisis, which includes the paramedic and nursing shortages, the diversions, the overloaded system in general is the reprecussions to badly wrought " healthcare reform " . The public needs to know how bad it is; we need them to demand the changes necessary to keep the system going. Does TDH track the numbers of providers that leave? > WARNING, THIS EMAIL IS NOT TO BASH, BELITTLE OR ATTACK ANYONE, (THEREFORE > YOU MAY WANT TO SKIP IT) > > I could be wrong, but there sure seems to be lot of emphasis on the > " nursing " shortage and hardly any on the paramedic shortage. It seems that > it makes it hard for hospital based services to petition for higher wages > trying to cite " paramedic " shortage when all over the papers and news is > " nursing shortage. " The only result I have seen is a pay raise in our area > for nurses, but not for medics. If all the commisioners, councilmen, board > members and tax payers hear how bad the shortage for nurses are, then they > react, I guess it likes the " squeeky wheel gets the oil " syndrome. OR it > could be that maybe its just me thinking there is a Paramedic shortage. > > So my questions guys and gals are: > Is it me, or do the rest of you feel there is a Paramedic shortage? > > Do we need to be a squeeky wheel? Its like we are fighting for the spotlight > to get noticed. > > Could TDH assemble factual data to support a statement made to the > Governor's office that basically says " There are not enough PARAMEDICS! What > do you want TDH to do about it? " (not sure how helpful this would be, but > maybe the press would pick up on it and report it to the public, so maybe > the boards, councils and courts would acknowledge the problem. (you since > all politics are local, right?) > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2001 Report Share Posted May 3, 2001 , I don't mean to aim this rant at you personally; it's to those in the EMS Profession on this list. Every time I read a post like this I want to gag. Don't y'all know that we've had a professional organization to represent us for the last several years but Emts and Paramedics won't join it? It is called the Emergency Medical Service Association of Texas (EMSAT) and I'm on the Board. It's a non-profit organization with lobbying powers and a paid legislative watchdog (G. K. Sprinkle) to let us know what's creeping up on us. We don't have enough money to pay her to actually lobby bills for us because at last count we had less than 1,000 members out of 42,000 licensed/certified individuals in the State of Texas. If we had enough members we could have a great lobbyiest to look out for us and push bills through. Know how much money that takes? $25,000 to $35,000 would be a good start. Care to guess how much money the Texas Hospital Association, Texas Medical Association, Texas Nursing Association, the Texas Bar Association, The Texas Chiropractic Association, the Texas Municipal League, the County Commissioners, and private industry spend? Well, you could buy your own private island with it and fly there daily on your own 737 daily. The President of EMSAT, , spends most of his life working on our behalf (without pay) and, together with some of the other board members and friends, has done a magnificent job of promoting our interests by attending legislative hearings and testifying. Yes, I mean going to Austin, hanging out at the Capitol, and being there to testify in person about bills that we support. Bet y'all don't even know that do you? We can all whine about the number of posts Ron puts on here in an attempt to let us know, free of charge, what's about to happen to us, but we don't care enough to actually become involved ourselves. Before we whine about having nobody to look out for us, let's consider paying the $35.00 annual membership fee to EMSAT (bet you didn't even know they had a website) and getting a strong organization. $35.00 is cheap. That's less than a first-run movie + popcorn and Dr. Peppers for four at a theater. Also, how many have sent a letter, email, or phone call to a state representative or senator this session? Huh? Huh? How many of you can even NAME your state representative or senator? Did you call your reps about the EMS license plates? Huh? Did you call about the runding of rural EMS? Huh? Huh? We need to grow up as a profession. gene E. Gandy, JD, LP EMS Professions Program Tyler Junior College Tyler, TX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2001 Report Share Posted May 3, 2001 Gotta agree with you here. I actually joined EMSAT when it first started and am going to renew things soon with this paycheck. I have had far more feedback on a national level than I have had from the Texas people..which is sad when you consider what is at risk. I wish more people would get involved. If they can't do that..maybe they would like to volunteer a week in Presidio and see frontier EMS at its best. It will be eyeopening! > The President of EMSAT, , spends most of his life working on > our behalf (without pay) and, together with some of the other board members > and friends, has done a magnificent job of promoting our interests by > attending legislative hearings and testifying. Yes, I mean going to Austin, > hanging out at the Capitol, and being there to testify in person about bills > that we support. > > Bet y'all don't even know that do you? We can all whine about the number of > posts Ron puts on here in an attempt to let us know, free of charge, what's > about to happen to us, but we don't care enough to actually become involved > ourselves. > > Before we whine about having nobody to look out for us, let's consider > paying the $35.00 annual membership fee to EMSAT (bet you didn't even know > they had a website) and getting a strong organization. $35.00 is cheap. > That's less than a first-run movie + popcorn and Dr. Peppers for four at a > theater. > > Also, how many have sent a letter, email, or phone call to a state > representative or senator this session? Huh? Huh? How many of you can even > NAME your state representative or senator? > > Did you call your reps about the EMS license plates? Huh? Did you call > about the runding of rural EMS? Huh? Huh? > > We need to grow up as a profession. > gene > > E. Gandy, JD, LP > EMS Professions Program > Tyler Junior College > Tyler, TX > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2001 Report Share Posted May 3, 2001 Hey Jeff and others, The Paramedic shortage is real. Trust me. Over 18 month ago in Florida...there were OVER 500 open Paramedic positions....and we don't come close to comparing to that much larger, better, more gooder state a little to the west of us.... Dudley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2001 Report Share Posted May 3, 2001 Gene, I'm not a card carrying member of EMSAT, but I have sent letters and nurmeous e-mails not only to my senator and state rep this session, but to other senators and state reps out of my district ask them to support not only the License Plate bill but others such as HB 2446, HB 2308 and HB 7. There for awhile I was sending e-mails at least twice a week reminding them to support these bills. Just wanted to point this out. Wayne Re: Thoughts about the secret " Paramedic Shortage " , I don't mean to aim this rant at you personally; it's to those in the EMS Profession on this list. Every time I read a post like this I want to gag. Don't y'all know that we've had a professional organization to represent us for the last several years but Emts and Paramedics won't join it? It is called the Emergency Medical Service Association of Texas (EMSAT) and I'm on the Board. It's a non-profit organization with lobbying powers and a paid legislative watchdog (G. K. Sprinkle) to let us know what's creeping up on us. We don't have enough money to pay her to actually lobby bills for us because at last count we had less than 1,000 members out of 42,000 licensed/certified individuals in the State of Texas. If we had enough members we could have a great lobbyiest to look out for us and push bills through. Know how much money that takes? $25,000 to $35,000 would be a good start. Care to guess how much money the Texas Hospital Association, Texas Medical Association, Texas Nursing Association, the Texas Bar Association, The Texas Chiropractic Association, the Texas Municipal League, the County Commissioners, and private industry spend? Well, you could buy your own private island with it and fly there daily on your own 737 daily. The President of EMSAT, , spends most of his life working on our behalf (without pay) and, together with some of the other board members and friends, has done a magnificent job of promoting our interests by attending legislative hearings and testifying. Yes, I mean going to Austin, hanging out at the Capitol, and being there to testify in person about bills that we support. Bet y'all don't even know that do you? We can all whine about the number of posts Ron puts on here in an attempt to let us know, free of charge, what's about to happen to us, but we don't care enough to actually become involved ourselves. Before we whine about having nobody to look out for us, let's consider paying the $35.00 annual membership fee to EMSAT (bet you didn't even know they had a website) and getting a strong organization. $35.00 is cheap. That's less than a first-run movie + popcorn and Dr. Peppers for four at a theater. Also, how many have sent a letter, email, or phone call to a state representative or senator this session? Huh? Huh? How many of you can even NAME your state representative or senator? Did you call your reps about the EMS license plates? Huh? Did you call about the runding of rural EMS? Huh? Huh? We need to grow up as a profession. gene E. Gandy, JD, LP EMS Professions Program Tyler Junior College Tyler, TX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2001 Report Share Posted May 4, 2001 Howdy Dud! I certainly didn't mean to imply that there wasn't. I merely pointed out that, with 40,000 open nursing positions in Texas alone, is what the media will likely focus on. Take care, Jeff Re: Thoughts about the secret " Paramedic Shortage " > Hey Jeff and others, > > The Paramedic shortage is real. Trust me. Over 18 month ago in > Florida...there were OVER 500 open Paramedic positions....and we don't come > close to comparing to that much larger, better, more gooder state a little to > the west of us.... > > Dudley > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2001 Report Share Posted May 5, 2001 Please, everyone in Texas remember that EMSAT is the Texas affiliate for NAEMT. We have two members who sit on the national committee as Texas reps. Yet we have very few people in Texas who belong either to EMSAT or to NAEMT. Let's get going as a profession and join the organizations that can help us. There is strength in numbers. Just ask the nurses, lawyers, and doctors. gene E. Gandy, JD, LP EMS Professions Program Tyler Junior College Tyler, TX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2001 Report Share Posted May 5, 2001 Is EMSAT the same as what the Texas Assoc. of EMTs use to be called. Found a TAEMT patch the other day while cleaning out some old stuff I had stored. Re: Thoughts about the secret " Paramedic Shortage " Please, everyone in Texas remember that EMSAT is the Texas affiliate for NAEMT. We have two members who sit on the national committee as Texas reps. Yet we have very few people in Texas who belong either to EMSAT or to NAEMT. Let's get going as a profession and join the organizations that can help us. There is strength in numbers. Just ask the nurses, lawyers, and doctors. gene E. Gandy, JD, LP EMS Professions Program Tyler Junior College Tyler, TX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2001 Report Share Posted May 5, 2001 There was the Texas Association of EMT's (TAEMT) they are a 501 (c 3) , and we are a (c 6), so we can lobby per our lawyers, where a (c 3) can't or at least is a fine line at best. I contact the last know President of TAEMT and offered to transfer their members to EMSAT the first year free if they would merge with us. I sent many emails and never received a answer. There was also the Texas Society of EMT's which I found their website way down under buried in about 10 other websites. The best I can tell about them is that they are a hand full of folks that sell C.E. from West Texas, they didn't start that way. I was a member of TAEMT many years ago as well as all of our EMS personnel, and it was a fun association. At one time I know one of the Presidents brought it out of debt to supposedly $50,000 in the bank. I had high hopes then, but that President went on, and they faded into the sunset. I can't PROMISE that will never happen to EMSAT. I can only tell you as long as I'm involved I will never give up trying to make it the #1 EMS State Association in the Country. I can't only fail if I don't try!!!!!! The hardest part I've faced with EMSAT is we all are very busy people and there is so much to do. I have found the EMS ENEMY, it's EMS displaying it's disagreements to all the other health professions, and elected officials instead of quietly between ourselves. I learned most the time someone has a different view about EMS we display it to all the other Health Professions, so we are seen unprofessional, and kid like. EMS is the youngest emergency service, so we are still a kid that is going through growing pains, which like kids we throw our tantrums. I am guilty as anyone if not more, but I've learned I need to change my ways. I will take MY positions, but respect others as well. At the end of the day I believe the majority should rule in the democracy we live, as long as I never hear of a dimple chad again. Thanks, Ron Re: Thoughts about the secret " Paramedic Shortage " Please, everyone in Texas remember that EMSAT is the Texas affiliate for NAEMT. We have two members who sit on the national committee as Texas reps. Yet we have very few people in Texas who belong either to EMSAT or to NAEMT. Let's get going as a profession and join the organizations that can help us. There is strength in numbers. Just ask the nurses, lawyers, and doctors. gene E. Gandy, JD, LP EMS Professions Program Tyler Junior College Tyler, TX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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