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Yes, i've had an ultrasound. It showed mild hydronephrosis in the left kidney.

It's encouraging to hear you were only laid up for a week.

> Re: Bladder pressure caused by fibroids

>

> Have you had a renal ultra sound? That will determine what damage if

> any is being done to your kidneys or bladder. The ultra sound

> diagnosed hydronephrosis in a kidney and I had a myomectomy. I

> was " laid up " for one week although I took 6 weeks total from work.

>

>

> > Hi,

> >

> > I have multiple fibroids with an enlarged uterus, the largest being

> 3.5.

> > I had an US done and could see the fibroids are pressing on 1/3 of

> my

> > bladder. Consequently, I am getting up in the middle of the night

> every

> > 3 hours...12, 3 and 6. The doctor wanted to schedule a myo, as she

> does

> > not recommend UAE. I am a single Mom and cannot be laid up with

> school

> > about to start. My concern is if I delay a surgical procedure, will

> it

> > do long term damage to my bladder or ureter. Does any one know or

> have

> > had experience with this. I would not be able to schedule a myo

> until

> > next June when my daughter is out of school.

> >

> > I appreciate your feedback.

> >

> > Kathleen

>

>

>

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Hi Margaret,

You were only laid up 1 week after the Myo??!! I thought it was 6 weeks bed

rest!!

I have a son that I feel I don't want to leave him (with 6 weeks bed rest) I

think I could handle 1 week though. :)

Blessings,

Elise

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Eileen,

I was just recently diagnosed with fibroids. I was interested in reading

about fibroids possibly causing hydronephroisis as I suffered severe

nephrosis on the right kidney and mild nephrosis on the left (I ended up

having part of my kidney removed 6 years ago) I wonder if fibroids could

have been the cause even six years ago? I was in the hospital for 6 days

and then started the recovery at home. Kim

Re: Bladder pressure caused by fibroids

> >

> > Have you had a renal ultra sound? That will determine what damage if

> > any is being done to your kidneys or bladder. The ultra sound

> > diagnosed hydronephrosis in a kidney and I had a myomectomy. I

> > was " laid up " for one week although I took 6 weeks total from work.

> >

> >

> > > Hi,

> > >

> > > I have multiple fibroids with an enlarged uterus, the largest being

> > 3.5.

> > > I had an US done and could see the fibroids are pressing on 1/3 of

> > my

> > > bladder. Consequently, I am getting up in the middle of the night

> > every

> > > 3 hours...12, 3 and 6. The doctor wanted to schedule a myo, as she

> > does

> > > not recommend UAE. I am a single Mom and cannot be laid up with

> > school

> > > about to start. My concern is if I delay a surgical procedure, will

> > it

> > > do long term damage to my bladder or ureter. Does any one know or

> > have

> > > had experience with this. I would not be able to schedule a myo

> > until

> > > next June when my daughter is out of school.

> > >

> > > I appreciate your feedback.

> > >

> > > Kathleen

> >

> >

> >

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Its not 6 weeks of bedrest-in fact they have you up and walking the next day.6

weeks of bed rest

would worsen any surgical procedure putting one at risk for blood clots and

infection.But it IS 6

weeks of limited activity,which means no heavy lifting,or exercise.With a small

child this could be

hard

Best,

Bonnie

Lismom97@... wrote:

> Hi Margaret,

>

> You were only laid up 1 week after the Myo??!! I thought it was 6 weeks bed

> rest!!

> I have a son that I feel I don't want to leave him (with 6 weeks bed rest) I

> think I could handle 1 week though. :)

>

> Blessings,

> Elise

>

>

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Kim

I guess my doctor is on the right track. I have no symptoms from the mild

hydronephrosis and would never had known if it weren't for my new gyn wanting to

check my kidney function because of the size of my fibroid and also because I am

a very small person (not much room in my abdominal cavity). It's hard to make a

decision for surgery when you are feeling great, but after hearing your story

I'm glad I've decided to go ahead with having the fibroid removed.

Eileen

> Re: Re: Bladder pressure caused by fibroids

>

> Eileen,

> I was just recently diagnosed with fibroids. I was interested in reading

> about fibroids possibly causing hydronephroisis as I suffered severe

> nephrosis on the right kidney and mild nephrosis on the left (I ended up

> having part of my kidney removed 6 years ago) I wonder if fibroids could

> have been the cause even six years ago? I was in the hospital for 6 days

> and then started the recovery at home. Kim

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Hi,

I would LOVE to know that answer too! When will degeneration be done with

and the fibroid gone!!!! My Second opinion Dr. just told me that it is

unknown how long it will take. But my fibroid is 12cm, so it could take some

time she said.

I would certainly love to see it disappear and not go thru major surgery!

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I was happy when reading your letter saying that a degenerating fibroid is

not cause for infectious process or sepsis! It relieved my mind about that!!!

Blessings,

Elise

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Hi Jen,

My fibroid is not degenerating, but Elise said hers was. My fibroid has

slowly increased in size.

Their are multiple fibroids with the largest being 3.5, but the problem

is some of them are pressing on one third of my bladder. It's difficult

during the day to have the focus and concentration I'm used to...because

my sleep is interrupted every 2-3 hours at night. The other distressing

part is that I look pregnant and none of my clothes fit around the

waist. Which of course is depressing to say the least. So my summer has

consisted of wearing sun dresses, since none of my shorts fit.

I am going to see a naturopathic doctor who apparently frequently treats

women with fibroids and hormonal imbalances and has been successful.

As a single mother, I don't have the option right now of doing surgery.

So I hope to shrink the fibroids in a more natural holistic way.

I'll keep you posted.

Thanks for all the feedback...we are so blessed to have this networking

environment of supportive women who all share this unfortunate common

bond. But are all willing to share the good, the bad and the

indifferent.

Take care,

kathleen

Lismom97@... wrote:

>

> Hi Jen,

>

> I noticed you asked Kathleen how she knew her fibroid was degenerating. I

> know mine is thru having an MRI.

>

> Blessings,

> Elise

>

>

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I am anxious to know what the naturopath recommends as I am interested in

maintaining that route for myself at this time. I am merely doing things on

my own that I have read or been suggested. However, it sounds to me like the

quality of life is more impinged upon than mine. As I read these helpful and

supportive posts I cannot help but think that in some of these more

progressive circumstances ( kidney problems, long term anemia, larger

abdominal girth to the point that larger clothing is in order, pain requiring

more than an occassional over-the-counter drug, etc.) a hysterectomy may be

in order. While I, as well as many on this board, feel that there are other

alternatives that I opt to try, I do thing the a hysterectomy does have its

place when then quality of life is as impaired as some mention on these

posts. I know that is probably not a pop[ular thought ( and by no means it

shouldn't be " popular " - hysterectomies are over-performed;no question about

that). I just think that there are " conservative measures " and " aggressive

measures " and there does come a time where someone was a candidate for

conservative treatment(s), but now is not.

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Question: What benefit would hysterectomy bring that a myomectomy would

not? (Besides the issue of recurrence -- and for the majority of the

women over the age of 40 on this list group, recurrence would probably

be a " non-issue. " ) What " Quality of Life " improvements would occur

with a hysterectomy that wouldn't also occur with a myomectomy, and

without the added loss of the uterus, pelvic support structure, etc.?

Sorry, but I guess I don't understand the conclusion you come to in this

statement. It seems to me that Quality of Life improvements are far

more likely with a myomectomy than a hysterectomy. There's certainly

less risk of loss of ovary function with a myomectomy. The " progressive

circumstances " you describe below would all be mitigated with a

myomectomy.

carla

DHind123@... wrote:

> I am anxious to know what the naturopath recommends as I am interested

> in

> maintaining that route for myself at this time. I am merely doing

> things on

> my own that I have read or been suggested. However, it sounds to me

> like the

> quality of life is more impinged upon than mine. As I read these

> helpful and

> supportive posts I cannot help but think that in some of these more

> progressive circumstances ( kidney problems, long term anemia, larger

> abdominal girth to the point that larger clothing is in order, pain

> requiring

> more than an occassional over-the-counter drug, etc.) a hysterectomy

> may be

> in order. While I, as well as many on this board, feel that there are

> other

> alternatives that I opt to try, I do thing the a hysterectomy does

> have its

> place when then quality of life is as impaired as some mention on

> these

> posts. I know that is probably not a pop[ular thought ( and by no

> means it

> shouldn't be " popular " - hysterectomies are over-performed;no question

> about

> that). I just think that there are " conservative measures " and "

> aggressive

> measures " and there does come a time where someone was a candidate for

>

> conservative treatment(s), but now is not.

>

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Holly --

As Eileen indicates, the potential damage of hydronephrosis is kidney damage.

My understanding is that it will cause damage to the kidney with time, the

damage can be irreversible, and it can even cause you to lose your kidney.

Or, if the blockage becomes complete, you could end up needing emergency

surgery.

The gyn I went to last January (I was new to her as I had moved across

country the summer before) had me undergo an IVP. She said an IVP would give

a clearer picture of what was going on than an ultrasound. If you really

want to see what is going on and how much damage has been done to your

kidney, a renal scan and renogram is even better. It is fascinating and

horrifying to see the difference between the size of the kidneys and the

difference in how quickly (or slowly) they empty (you can see these things

while they run the tests).

My largest fibroid was partially blocking one of my ureters. Other than

that, I was pretty much symptom free. Several doctors and family members had

to impress on me how important the kidneys are. So I had an uae at the

beginning of July. The last cat scan shows that my kidney is no longer

dilated. Unfortunately I have run a high-grade fever for over four weeks

now, which apparently is unusual.

I would encourage you to find a doctor that will order follow-up tests.

-- Connie

Re: Bladder pressure caused by

fibroids

>

> What are the dangers of hydronephrosis? I have no symptoms of any

> problems there but one gyn I saw said she was surprised I could

> urinate at all with where my fibroid is. This didn't prompt her to

> want to do anything about it...but she did seem like somewhat of a

> dingbat, meaning either her thoughts on my ability to urinate were

> off or her ignoring the matter were off. The subsequent gyn who did

> the US and the gyn onc who did my polyp removal said nothing about

> it.

>

> I was naively imagining that one would have signs...frequency of

> urination at least? Or a difficulty in going?

>

> Thanks,

> Holly

>

>

> > > Kim,

> > >

> > > Sorry to hear of your kidney problems. How does one know if

they

> > have a

> > > kidney problem? Does it usually show up as blood in the urine?

> > >

> > > Blessings,

> > > Elise :)

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Thank you soo much, Margaret, for your suggestion of asking for a renal

ultrasound.

I read your letter yesterday morning. Then last night while trying to

urinate I experienced excruciating pain and cramping and had a very light

flow of urination. Felt, again, like I couldn't empty bladder. Very, very

scary. I wondered if I was going to have to go to the hospital. I've been

drinking tons of water and it seems to be helping me to urinate.

I'm seeing my OBGYN coincidentally this week. So, I will be calling her

Monday to ask about having a renal ultrasound before my appointment with her.

I do not understand why my Dr's have not thought of this when I've explained

my bladder problems!

But, with this pain, I will be proactive and ask for the test myself!!

This fibroid group is truly a blessing. I've learned so much from everyone

here and feel like you all understand what I'm going though. You are in my

prayers.

Blessings,

Elise :)

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