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September 25, 2001

Hi

You mention, " my efforts " . What have you done?

I'm trying progesterone cream (1 month now...still not sure if it did

anything to help the bleeding).

Any and all home remedies appreciated! I want to treat the symptoms but not

medically right now.

Jessie

Interpretation of MRI text

Hello! I've written to the list a couple of times

since I found out about my fibroid 7/11/01. I'm 38,

do not have and do not intend to have children.

I've had a telephone conversation with a doctor about

my MRI results, and have an appointment 11/7/01 to

discuss what to do next.

From the telephone conversation, I learned:

The imaging revealed no abnormalities other than a

single large fibroid in the thickness of the uterine

wall about the size of a 10-week fetus. It does not

appear to be cancerous. It does not appear to be

pushing against anything, just offsetting internal

organs a bit. It may be in the process of

degenerating, though whether that is due to my efforts

since I found out the fibroid in July of this year is

unclear.

I welcome hearing any other insights any of you may

have. The text of the written report is below.

Thanks!

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MRI OF THE PELVIS: 9/17/01

CLINICAL DATA:

Uterine fibroid. Unable to fully discern position or

size on pelvis

ultrasound. Last menstrual period 8/3/01.

TECHNIQUE:

Multiple planes and sequences were used to obtain

images of the

pelvis.

FINDINGS:

There is a 10.5 x 9 x 10.2 cm heterogenous mass

anterior and superior

to the endometrium. Intermediate signal myometrium is

seen

surrounding this mass. This mass deforms the

endometrium. The

endometrium is subcentimeter in thickness. No free

fluid is seen in

the pelvis.

The right ovary is anterior and the left ovary is

posterior , both

contain follicles. The remainder of the uterus appears

normal.

IMPRESSION:

Large intramural fibroid which deforms the

endometrium. Heterogenous

signal within this fibroid suggests degeneration.

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September 25, 2001

,

I feel I've done 2 things to address my fibroid

situation: Exercise 3+ times weekly for 30+ minutes

and increase the vitamins/minerals/supplements I'm

taking.

I have never been one to exercise regularly, but for

the most part have done so since the fibroid news

7/11/01. I like to cycle, which cannot be a

year-round activity in New Hampshire. I had done a

fair amount of bike riding in my past, so this was

relatively easy to get back into. I've ridden between

6 and 38 miles at a time over the last 2.5 months. If

I don't make 3 times per week due to travel or other

crises, I just resume the next time Monday rolls

around. Last Friday, the last time I've exercised,

I went for a 6 mile run/walk. I hate running and so

does my body, but this time it was okay. I've been

exercising alone, which I think is better for me.

When I decide to do it, I do ... rather than

coordinating with or waiting for someone else.

After reading several materials, I made up a list of

supplements to take including flax oil. If you'd like

to know exactly what I'm taking, I'll share it with

you (or the group) provided all readers understand

that this is just what I've decided to do based on my

understanding of what I read. No person with any

experience with nutrition, women's health, natural

medicine, conventional medicine, etc. has reviewed

this to see if it makes sense. When doctors ask what

medications I'm taking, I do give them a complete

list, but I don't think they look at it. Again if I

screw up and forget to take something, I just begin

again correctly the next day.

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September 25, 2001

,

This is what I know about MRI's and degeneration.

I had a pre UAE MRI that showed the big whorly looking fibroid. I

had a 6 month post UAE MRI that showed the UAE worked because the

fibroid was very " degenerated " looking: smaller, the film area was

black where it had been white, and the fibroid was smaller- compact

looking. The IR was able to estimate that I would get a little more

shrinkage because of the amount of vascular looking components left

in the post MRI.

If I was you I would wonder if the fibroid could keep degenerating in

the same manner as one does from UAE? If it is determined it is

degenerating on it's own will it continue as quickly as those that

lose their blood supply from UAE? Depending on what your gyn tells

you I would consider confering with an IR who had done a fair amount

of UAE's and see if they could give you any additional information

from reading the MRI. Not to get a UAE but because my IR had seen

plenty of MRI's from degenerating fibroids and seemed to be able to

make some interpretations.

Depending on what your plan is for treatment I would ask if a six

month follow-up MRI would show if the fibroid was in fact

degenerating on its own, similar to UAE results.

Good Luck,

> Hello! I've written to the list a couple of times

> since I found out about my fibroid 7/11/01. I'm 38,

> do not have and do not intend to have children.

>

> I've had a telephone conversation with a doctor about

> my MRI results, and have an appointment 11/7/01 to

> discuss what to do next.

>

> From the telephone conversation, I learned:

>

> The imaging revealed no abnormalities other than a

> single large fibroid in the thickness of the uterine

> wall about the size of a 10-week fetus. It does not

> appear to be cancerous. It does not appear to be

> pushing against anything, just offsetting internal

> organs a bit. It may be in the process of

> degenerating, though whether that is due to my efforts

> since I found out the fibroid in July of this year is

> unclear.

>

> I welcome hearing any other insights any of you may

> have. The text of the written report is below.

>

> Thanks!

>

> -------------------------------

> MRI OF THE PELVIS: 9/17/01

>

> CLINICAL DATA:

>

> Uterine fibroid. Unable to fully discern position or

> size on pelvis

> ultrasound. Last menstrual period 8/3/01.

>

> TECHNIQUE:

>

> Multiple planes and sequences were used to obtain

> images of the

> pelvis.

>

> FINDINGS:

>

> There is a 10.5 x 9 x 10.2 cm heterogenous mass

> anterior and superior

> to the endometrium. Intermediate signal myometrium is

> seen

> surrounding this mass. This mass deforms the

> endometrium. The

> endometrium is subcentimeter in thickness. No free

> fluid is seen in

> the pelvis.

>

> The right ovary is anterior and the left ovary is

> posterior , both

> contain follicles. The remainder of the uterus appears

> normal.

>

> IMPRESSION:

>

> Large intramural fibroid which deforms the

> endometrium. Heterogenous

> signal within this fibroid suggests degeneration.

>

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September 25, 2001

I doubt very much that exercise 3 x a week for 30 minutes and taking vitamins

will shrink fibroids.

I think many of us exercise on a regular basis before being diagnosed with

fibroids and since finding out we have them.

We need to be realistic. Although I am sure exercise and vitamins are

beneficial in the long run to well being.

Elise

Keil wrote: ,

I feel I've done 2 things to address my fibroid

situation: Exercise 3+ times weekly for 30+ minutes

and increase the vitamins/minerals/supplements I'm

taking.

I have never been one to exercise regularly, but for

the most part have done so since the fibroid news

7/11/01. I like to cycle, which cannot be a

year-round activity in New Hampshire. I had done a

fair amount of bike riding in my past, so this was

relatively easy to get back into. I've ridden between

6 and 38 miles at a time over the last 2.5 months. If

I don't make 3 times per week due to travel or other

crises, I just resume the next time Monday rolls

around. Last Friday, the last time I've exercised,

I went for a 6 mile run/walk. I hate running and so

does my body, but this time it was okay. I've been

exercising alone, which I think is better for me.

When I decide to do it, I do ... rather than

coordinating with or waiting for someone else.

After reading several materials, I made up a list of

supplements to take including flax oil. If you'd like

to know exactly what I'm taking, I'll share it with

you (or the group) provided all readers understand

that this is just what I've decided to do based on my

understanding of what I read. No person with any

experience with nutrition, women's health, natural

medicine, conventional medicine, etc. has reviewed

this to see if it makes sense. When doctors ask what

medications I'm taking, I do give them a complete

list, but I don't think they look at it. Again if I

screw up and forget to take something, I just begin

again correctly the next day.

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September 27, 2001

I concur with . I exercise 3-5x per week and I have large fibroids,

Re: Interpretation of MRI text

Exercise can definitely contribute to a better state of overall health, but

I

have exercised 3-5 times a week my entire life, so it certainly hasn't

prevented fibroids for me. We look for the magic cause and remedy all of

the

time, often assuming it's something we are or aren't doing. I've tried

various things (and have stressed over all these decisions about what to try

next) for years.

It's important to take steps to eat healthy and exercise, but beyond that,

maybe there are factors just beyond our control (chemicals in the air,

water,

genetics, who knows?). My husband sometimes thinks I'd be better off by NOT

researching so much because I get so stressed out over it. I'm told to cut

out meats/dairy for fibroids, so to get protein I take in more soy products.

Then I find out I'm hypothyroid and soy can inhibit thyroid, so do I just

give up on protein?

We should try to eat right, exercise, sleep well, and relax. It's really all

we can do.

B.

September 27, 2001

Hi Gang - in reference to exercise.

I agree that it helps keep one healthy, but it did not slow down my

fibroids. Actually since things like smoking can slow down the growth -

maybe exercise would actually help them grow.

Not that I am saying to stop exercise -- just a theory only.

Re: Interpretation of MRI text

>

> Exercise can definitely contribute to a better state of overall health,

but

> I

> have exercised 3-5 times a week my entire life, so it certainly hasn't

> prevented fibroids for me. We look for the magic cause and remedy all of

> the

> time, often assuming it's something we are or aren't doing. I've tried

> various things (and have stressed over all these decisions about what to

try

> next) for years.

>

> It's important to take steps to eat healthy and exercise, but beyond that,

> maybe there are factors just beyond our control (chemicals in the air,

> water,

> genetics, who knows?). My husband sometimes thinks I'd be better off by

NOT

> researching so much because I get so stressed out over it. I'm told to

cut

> out meats/dairy for fibroids, so to get protein I take in more soy

products.

> Then I find out I'm hypothyroid and soy can inhibit thyroid, so do I just

> give up on protein?

>

> We should try to eat right, exercise, sleep well, and relax. It's really

all

> we can do.

> B.

>

September 27, 2001

I appreciate all the replys to my posts, and generally

also agree with all the feedback. I also believe

(hope) that perhaps for me, if I was not exercising,

developed a fibroid, and then exercised religiously

that this life change may have at least an indirect

positive effect on slowing additional fibroid growth.

Some writings suggest that fibroids are driven by an

excess of estrogen in the body. Additional writings

suggest that exercise can reduce the amount of

estrogen in one's body. Since as we all have heard

exercise is good for at least something, I don't feel

I can go wrong by doing what I'm doing regarding

exercise.

The supplement regimen I'm following is, admitedly,

even more controversial. I'd welcome further feedback

on that from readers of this list.

Regards,

--- kbslp@... wrote:

> I concur with . I exercise 3-5x per week and I

> have large fibroids,

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