Guest guest Posted June 22, 1998 Report Share Posted June 22, 1998 > Hello, > I have just joined the list and wanted to say a bit about how > I got here and why. > <snip> > My experience has been that the less " program " talk and > material used, and the more actual caring of people sharing > their thoughts and feelings, the better. ><snip> > Sometimes I think that a person without any eating disorder > at all would develop one if every day for months at a time, > they said their name, and then defined who they were by saying > that they were a " compulsive overeater. " > > > Thanks from Emy > glow@... I have wondered exactly the same thing about AA, tho with a sort of different spin -- how is it possible to not drink if you are spending most of your spare time obsessing about alcohol? And the point about people sharing their feelings and caring is well-taken. One of the weirdest things to me, and the most off-putting about AA, was that people never had conversations! Instead of sitting down and batting a topic around, we all went around in a circle. Nobody responded to anyone, and even tho there was a topic, it was sort of addressed in a vacuum! Are there any places outside of 12-step rooms where this takes place? Plus, before and after the meetings, no one had conversations either! " My husband just sued me for divorce " -- " This too shall pass. " " My teacher says I have to sleep with him to get a passing grade " -- " You're powerless. " (No kidding, I actually heard this once.) " My house was just broken into and the police refuse to come " -- " Wanna go to a meeting? " (NO, YOU IDIOT, I WANT A PLACE TO SPEND THE NIGHT!) How any of this is conducive to mental health is beyond me. Kayleigh ----- Original Message: http://www.findmail.com/list/12-step-free/?start=117 Start a FREE e-mail list at http://www.FindMail.com/ ---- Read this list on the Web at http://www.FindMail.com/list/12-step-free/ To unsubscribe, email to 12-step-free-unsubscribe@... To subscribe, email to 12-step-free-subscribe@... -- Start a FREE E-Mail List at http://makelist.com ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 1998 Report Share Posted June 22, 1998 Yo! Welcome, Emy. I used to be one of those once, and I called myself a " compulsive overeater " for a while. But I haven't been one of those for years now. I also used to call myself an " addict " and some other stuff too, even when I hadn't done that stuff for years. Now I'm just a human being like everyone else, but some things I'm a bit more careful with, and some things I stay away from! Looking forward to hearing more from you. Joe B. At 19:00 22/06/98 -0700, you wrote: >Hello, > I have just joined the list and wanted to say a bit about how >I got here and why. > I have tried 12 step groups over and over, and something just >doesn't sit right. I couldn't put my finger on it, yet I know that >there are people who have been helped by them. > My experience has been that the less " program " talk and >material used, and the more actual caring of people sharing >their thoughts and feelings, the better. > The places where lots of slogans and emphasis on " steps " >were going on-well, I was usually out of there and not coming >back. > I would have the mixed feeling that I SHOULD somehow be >able to do these steps, to want to do them. But something in >me resists, and it just doesn't feel right. > Some of what they say has helped me. I think that the best >group I ever went to was one for Incest Survivors, and that >one didn't use the " Big Book " (oh I hate that phrase-don't really >know why), but another book, concentrated on building our >self esteem by saying positive affirmations....and I had to ask >myself, well, wasn't this just really a support group with >caring people helping each other? I think just getting a hug from >someone is enough to make my day, anyway. And there are a >lot of other very lonely scared people out there who feel the >same. > Anyway, I know that some groups work for some people, >but I just can't take having to say that I'm a " compulsive >overeater " anymore. I want that phrase out of my head. And >maybe if I told myself that many times that I was a person who >was in tune with my body's needs, I'd change my habits. > Sometimes I think that a person without any eating disorder >at all would develop one if every day for months at a time, >they said their name, and then defined who they were by saying >that they were a " compulsive overeater. " > > >Thanks from Emy >glow@... > > > > > >---- >Read this list on the Web at http://www.FindMail.com/list/12-step-free/ >To unsubscribe, email to 12-step-free-unsubscribe@... >To subscribe, email to 12-step-free-subscribe@... >-- >Start a FREE E-Mail List at http://makelist.com ! > > Joe Berenbaum ---- Read this list on the Web at http://www.FindMail.com/list/12-step-free/ To unsubscribe, email to 12-step-free-unsubscribe@... To subscribe, email to 12-step-free-subscribe@... -- Start a FREE E-Mail List at http://makelist.com ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 1998 Report Share Posted June 23, 1998 In a message dated 98-06-24 01:04:32 EDT, you write: << Anyway, I think is actually in charge of the newsgroup, isn't he? Sincerely, >> did start arf12s, and he said a while back that it could be changed to moderated. I don't know that he thinks of himself as in charge of it.....but it would be good to get hold of him to talk with. This is not always easy as I don't believe he ever uses a legit email address on his posts. you may catch him on araa, though. He is there quite often. Bette ---- Read this list on the Web at http://www.FindMail.com/list/12-step-free/ To unsubscribe, email to 12-step-free-unsubscribe@... To subscribe, email to 12-step-free-subscribe@... -- Start a FREE E-Mail List at http://makelist.com ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 1998 Report Share Posted June 24, 1998 oops...just hit reply.... In a message dated 98-06-23 17:47:40 EDT, you write: > I'm really disappointed that arf12s has been ruined, and I'm hoping that maybe the > group can be resurrected in the future. Considering that this has happened several times since arf12s began, I'm sure that it will recover exactly the same that it has in the past. > I hope we've all learned the lesson that we permitted it to happen by playing the > game with them. It's the kind of game you can only win if you refuse to play. I know you believe that but that just isn't the case. They do this because people like captainusa post RR stuff to arna. They are retalliating. (albeit wrongfully) It doesn't matter if you respond or not, they talk to each other. There are very few posts by arf12s'ers right now and they are going strong. If you truly want it to stop, don't post to arna, that's the only way it will end. That's the lesson I've learned from dealing with this in the past. Kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 1998 Report Share Posted June 24, 1998 hit reply again.... In a message dated 98-06-23 16:28:07 EDT, you write: > You know, I think now I would support a moderated group, depending, of course, on the > moderator. Has anyone else changed their minds? Kim? Bette? Nope. Having 2 is one thing but making the only available option a moderated newsgroup will turn off some people, myself included. > None of it would mean we > couldn't still crosspost, or go to other groups and post, plus, they could come to > arf also, unless > it started to become ridiculous, as it is now. Do you really think that's fair? I can post to your newsgroup but you can't post to mine? Anyway, I retract my vote one way or the other. I don't imagine I'm going to stick around either way. So, whatever makes you all happy, do it. Kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2000 Report Share Posted May 21, 2000 Sandy, Hang in there! I had three hysterscopies before my Ashermans was finally gone! It is very hard but try to stay positive because it may all work out in the end. This is a wonderful group which will provide excellent medical information as well as some much needed emotional support! Welcome. Celeste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2000 Report Share Posted May 22, 2000 Hi Sandy and welcome to the group. I think that you will have support and information here as we all had. Like Celeste wrote I also think that you should have hope and a sometimes even with sever Asherman's things work out. Good luck Leila new member > Hi > > My name is Sandy and I'm 34 years old and do not have any children. > I'm from Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada. > Thanks to Poly for responding to my e-mail and inviting me to join > this support group. Before I found this group I was beginning to > think that I was the only one out there suffering from this as it > seems to be so uncommon and no ones knows much about it. It's > unfortunate and sad that we have to meet this way. > > Here is my story: > I suffered my first miscarriage in April/99 at 14 weeks and had a > D & C. This of course was quite devastating for my huband & I. We > were told this is very common and to try again. So, we waited 6 > months and tried again. I then suffered another miscarriage in > December/99 at 12 weeks and had another D & C. I then went to a new > doctor (OBGYN) and she seemed to think the reason for the > miscarriages was due to decreased progesterone in my system when I > got pregnant. Apparently the body is supppose to produce more when > you are pregant and mine did the opposite. We again were told we > could try again and would be put on progesterone supplements when I > got pregant again. Well, that was not to be. I waited and waited > for a period and nothing. > > I went for a HSG in March/00 and was diagnosed with Ashermans and > then scheduled for a hysteroscopy. That surgery was done April > 26/00 to no success. My doctor advised me that I have very > extensive damage to the uterus and she had never seen anything like > it before. She believes this happened due to the last D & C which > seemed to be overly aggresive. This surgery was done by a doctor on > call that night at the hospital. > I now am waiting for another HSG which is May 30. She then will > schedule another hysteroscopy and a laparoscopy to try and reapir > what she can. She has not given up hope that I may be able to have > a baby one day, but this seems to be just the start of a long > treament. I am so confused and scared by all of this. I have so > many questions. I guess I have to take this one step at a time and > not worry about the future just yet. > > Thanks for listening and I wish everyone luck and success. > > Sandy > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > eGroups > free, easy email groups > Start a new email group today at > http://click./1/3949/4/_/673741/_/958933279/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2000 Report Share Posted May 22, 2000 Sandy, I just want to say welcome to our group and hang on to those dreams. We will be beside you to share whatever you need to share with us. The only thing I can say is to make sure the doctor doing this hysteroscopy on May 30th is a good one who knows everything he needs to know on Ashermans. Some doctors think they can deal with it but in fact it is a very specialistic area and you need to go to the best! Love Poly new member Hi My name is Sandy and I'm 34 years old and do not have any children. I'm from Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada. Thanks to Poly for responding to my e-mail and inviting me to join this support group. Before I found this group I was beginning to think that I was the only one out there suffering from this as it seems to be so uncommon and no ones knows much about it. It's unfortunate and sad that we have to meet this way. Here is my story: I suffered my first miscarriage in April/99 at 14 weeks and had a D & C. This of course was quite devastating for my huband & I. We were told this is very common and to try again. So, we waited 6 months and tried again. I then suffered another miscarriage in December/99 at 12 weeks and had another D & C. I then went to a new doctor (OBGYN) and she seemed to think the reason for the miscarriages was due to decreased progesterone in my system when I got pregnant. Apparently the body is supppose to produce more when you are pregant and mine did the opposite. We again were told we could try again and would be put on progesterone supplements when I got pregant again. Well, that was not to be. I waited and waited for a period and nothing. I went for a HSG in March/00 and was diagnosed with Ashermans and then scheduled for a hysteroscopy. That surgery was done April 26/00 to no success. My doctor advised me that I have very extensive damage to the uterus and she had never seen anything like it before. She believes this happened due to the last D & C which seemed to be overly aggresive. This surgery was done by a doctor on call that night at the hospital. I now am waiting for another HSG which is May 30. She then will schedule another hysteroscopy and a laparoscopy to try and reapir what she can. She has not given up hope that I may be able to have a baby one day, but this seems to be just the start of a long treament. I am so confused and scared by all of this. I have so many questions. I guess I have to take this one step at a time and not worry about the future just yet. Thanks for listening and I wish everyone luck and success. Sandy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2000 Report Share Posted September 23, 2000 Thank you Poly!!! New member > My name is Pirie and I was born and raised in Harlingen, Texas. Iam> currently living in Boise, Idaho. My birthday is July 15, 1957. I do not> have any children as of yet! I had a miscarriage this past July 2000. I> was nine weeks pregnant.> I had an HSG test last week and it came out positive. I have not had any> other tests or surgeries since I got this information. My doctor thinks I> got it from the D & C I recently had in July. I also had mycoplasma whichis> being treated by antibiotics.> I have not been pregnant since July. Yes, I am still menstruating. I was> told that I do have scar tissue in the middle portion of my uterus and> towards the right side and there is a small irregular pocket in the upper> portion. My tubes are open.>> My doctor has advised that I have surgery to remove the scar tissue. I do> have plans to have a child. My FSH level was tested this week at 8.8. He> is also recommending that I increase my progesterone as well as take some> medication to increase my thyroid as well as my DHEA level. He also saidmy> sodium level is low.>> I have recently moved to the Boise area and am meeting with a fertilitydr.> by the name of Dr. Foulk today. He has all my tests. I amcurious> as to what he thinks as well.>> Thank you Poly for all your input. I would very much like to hear other> women's experience who have this condition and how they dealt with it!>> Sincerely,>> Pirie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2000 Report Share Posted September 25, 2000 Hi Pirie - Welcome to the group. These are a great bunch of women who can provide lots of support to you. Poly - Great news about your period! Gwen - I think everything sounds promising. The fact that 80 - 85% of the cavity is now open is great. Hope you are feeling better. Sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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