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> Hi all,

>

> I am new to this list and have enjoyed what I have read so far. I can

> relate big-time.

Welcome to the list, Nolita. How did you find us?

>

> Nolita

>

> #24963152 I'm not sure if you need that number or what it's for...

Me neither.

fransway29@...

>

>

>

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At 04:27 AM 6/24/99 PDT, you wrote:

<snip>>Congratulations on your decision, Judith!

>

>Hope this gets to everybody-my last couple of posts haven't made it. Does

>anybody know what I may have done???

>

>

All you have done, probably, is experience the strange and inexplicable

entity that is e-groups. They have a special system where some people's

emails go astray sometimes. AOL is apparently trying to copy it but they

haven't mastered the subtleties yet. ;-)

Joe Berenbaum

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> Hey Judith;

> Welcome aboard.

Thanks , it's good to be here. I appreciate your response to my post,

and I apologize for giving such a brief response back to you, but some days

that's all I can manage and this is one of those days.

Your posts tell a pretty amazing story. I really enjoy reading them.

Judith

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Joe-

Ah yes-the NETHERNET!!! My posts popped up about 5 hours after I sent them=

.. They must have bounced all over!!

wrote:

original article:/group/12-step-free/?start=4832

> Now it's happening to me! I'm usually immune to this... Anyway this is th=

e

> second time I'm sending this one.

>

> At 04:27 AM 6/24/99 PDT, you wrote:

> <snip>>Congratulations on your decision, Judith!

> >

> >Hope this gets to everybody-my last couple of posts haven't made it. Do=

es

> >anybody know what I may have done???

> >

> >

>

> All you have done, probably, is experience the strange and inexplicable

> entity that is e-groups. They have a special system where some people's

> emails go astray sometimes. AOL is apparently trying to copy it but they

> haven't mastered the subtleties yet. ;-)

>

> Joe Berenbaum

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Hi ,

Don't sweat it. I'm new here too, and my experience and perceptions are

as follows. Many of us have had our minds put on hold by the 12 Step

System. So it naturally follows that we come here and get a little

carried away with our intellects.

In AA I felt like I had a perfectly tuned, high performance sport car in

my garage, but they told me to give away all my gasoline to God as I

understand him. Now that I know God doesn't need my petrol, I have been

joyriding all over this site. Try not to let it get on your nerves. I

kind of reminds me when I first learned how to drive.

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At 07:18 PM 6/27/99 -0700, you wrote:

>Hi ,

>

>Don't sweat it. I'm new here too, and my experience and perceptions are

>as follows. Many of us have had our minds put on hold by the 12 Step

>System. So it naturally follows that we come here and get a little

>carried away with our intellects.

>

>In AA I felt like I had a perfectly tuned, high performance sport car in

>my garage, but they told me to give away all my gasoline to God as I

>understand him. Now that I know God doesn't need my petrol, I have been

>joyriding all over this site. Try not to let it get on your nerves. I

>kind of reminds me when I first learned how to drive.

>

>

- so that was you driving all over my lawn!

Joe Berenbaum

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In a message dated 12/21/99 4:19:57 AM !!!First Boot!!!, Teneniel2@...

writes:

<< Did you find it any consolation knowing you had a child to come home to?

I

know it helped me pull through that awful experience >>

,

You asked this question of Patti, and I wanted to give my input on it. I

know that it sounds really stupid, but I would not have agreed to have the

d & c or be treated with MTX if I did not have my daughter at home. I was so

determined to have another baby that I was almost ready to die (literally)

trying. The sad thing is that I haven't learned. I still would not consent

if it were not for my daughter. Really dumb, huh? I don't know if anybody

else has thought the same thing, I know I am really reckless like that. But

that is just my take on the role my daughter played.

Amy

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,

I'm so jealous. It seems to work the opposite for us. My dh usually is on

second shift when he needs to be on first or third. Oh well.

Good luck to you!

L

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L

Good luck, I will hold thumbs that this month works for you.

Have fun!

sonja

Re: hello

Sonja,

I think I'm now in the same boat as the rest of you ttc'ers. Since my

AF

decides to come earlier and earlier every month, that moved me back with

you

too. Since dh is off this evening, we plan to make the most of it IF

our

daughter goes to bed at a decent time.

I have no intention of ever buying another OPK. I don't like the

disappointment of knowing that it's time and nothing happening... We'll

see

what happens tonight and the rest of the week...

Take care,

L

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,

That's great! Enjoy every minute, I will send you some

++++++++++++++++++++++ vibes, o.k.?

take care, and enjoy the festivities

sonja

Re: hello

hi girls -

yes, I am a day behind you both - Tara and Sonja. We lucked out,

's

work schedule is great this week, he will actually be home every night!

So,

we should be able to hit everyday!

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Hi Jeanne,

I have a BU with a pregnancy (29 wks) in the right

horn. My left horn is smaller than my right horn, but

we don't yet know if it is capable of supporting

pregnancy - it could be. My BU was diagnosed during

pregnancy, so we don't know a lot about the extent of

my abnormality yet.

I have been wondering if, for future pregnancies, I

should only try to conceive on the months when I feel

ovulatory pain on my right side??

I'll be really interested to hear what you find out.

Welcome to the group.

Ula

--- Jeanne Riggs wrote:

> Hello. My name is Jeanne, I live in the US. About a

> month and a half ago I had sever pelvic pain. I went

> to the ER and they did a urine pregnancy test among

> other tests. Then released me and told me to follow

> up with my primary. My primary doctor had an us

> done. It showed a small mass located next to, or on

> my left ovary. He admitted me thinking it was an

> eptopic pregnancy, since no blood pregnancy test was

> done.

>

> To make a this long story short, my gyn did

> laparoscpic surgery he found out that I have a bu

> uterus with hypoplastic left horn. He said this

> means that I can only carry a child on the right

> side of my uterus. If I get pregnant on the left I

> have to take medication to induce an abortion. This

> is a very hard decision. I wanted to have children,

> in the near future. This makes me terrified to try

> to get pregnant.

>

> I have tried to find info on the internet about this

> and I have been unsuccessful. Please give me and

> info that you can. Thanks.

>

> Jeanne

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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Jeanne,

I had to respond b/c I've never heard of a Dr saying that anyone would have

to take medicine during a pg to induce an abortion. I would find another

Dr. Is it an Reproductive Endocrinologist? I know that for a uu

(unicornate uterus), which is what I have, if there's a non-communicationg

horn still attached, one option is to have surgery done to remove it, and

delete the risk of a pg in that horn. So that may be a possibility for you.

I hope some of this information helps you. And check out the websites on

congential anamolies.

http://hygeia.org/poems24.uterine%20anomalies.htm

http://www.tippeduterus.com/default.htm

http://www.wegrokit.com/uterineanomalies/

Good luck on your path,

R

Hello

Hello. My name is Jeanne, I live in the US. About a month and a half ago I

had sever pelvic pain. I went to the ER and they did a urine pregnancy test

among other tests. Then released me and told me to follow up with my

primary. My primary doctor had an us done. It showed a small mass located

next to, or on my left ovary. He admitted me thinking it was an eptopic

pregnancy, since no blood pregnancy test was done.

To make a this long story short, my gyn did laparoscpic surgery he found out

that I have a bu uterus with hypoplastic left horn. He said this means that

I can only carry a child on the right side of my uterus. If I get pregnant

on the left I have to take medication to induce an abortion. This is a very

hard decision. I wanted to have children, in the near future. This makes me

terrified to try to get pregnant.

I have tried to find info on the internet about this and I have been

unsuccessful. Please give me and info that you can. Thanks.

Jeanne

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Hi, Jeannie. Welcome to the group...

My name is Stacey... I just replied to the roll call so I won't go through

my info. again. But, I have a question for you... What is a " hypoplastic "

horn? I just haven't heard that term before...

[Guest guest]

Cheryl! Hi! Did you get the post cards I sent for your friend?

(((BIG HUG))) ~Lala~ ^^Å^^ ^^å^^

Yesterday is the past Tomorrow is the future Today is a " Gift " That is why it

is called the " Present "

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Hi Cheryl!

We wern't home all day but we are now!! I bet everyone is out

shopping for Easter things.

Hugs

nne

> is anybody here,there no post at all today were is everybody, earth

> calling everybody knock knock anybody home

> cheryl

[Guest guest]

For some reason my e-mail is running way behind....Messages

that should have come through yesterday appeared this morning..

I have yahoo e-mail and all this started when they did the

groups change last weekl..oh well better late than never I guess.

Sharon

--- chucky5741 <no_reply > wrote:

> Hi Cheryl!

> We wern't home all day but we are now!! I bet everyone is out

> shopping for Easter things.

> Hugs

> nne

>

>

>

> > is anybody here,there no post at all today were is everybody,

> earth

> > calling everybody knock knock anybody home

> > cheryl

>

>

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Hi Betty!

Nice to hear from you. How is Harry doing??

Hugs

nne

Hello

Have not been posting much at all lately, just wanted to say hello to

everyone. Hope all is going well for each of you, especially the ones

that are now in a treatment program. Everyone here is so supportive

with each other. I know it would have been a very difficult time for

me had I not had all the support and friendship from everyone one

here. Will be 4 years for me as a survivor and I am so lucky to have

met such wonderful and caring friends. Hope you all have a wonderful

day, Hugs Betty

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oh yea jill i forgot to tell you i am 41 now, so breast cancer is not a

imediate dealth sentance.......

carol from michigan

[Guest guest]

>Thanks Cheryl. I need a lot of pillows these days. I'm having problems

>with my second chemo and my doctor wants me to do it every week instead of

>every three weeks and I am scared to death! So please send a big soft

>virtual pillow my way.

Jill

>if there's any here ever needs just to talk to or needs a pillow to lay

>her head on let me know because i have a giant pillow you can lay you head

>on and be glad to help you in any way i can

>cheryl

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At 08:05 PM 9/30/2002 +0000, you wrote:

>If you can stuff it and sew the tiny opening shut, I will send you a

>wonderful pillow (after you stuff it) that is great for under necks,

>arms, legs...wherever. I will need a mailing address too.

>mkayla38@... Doris

>

I was joking! I have lots of special neck pillows cause I have

fibromyalgia. Problem is, most of them are scented and I am really

sensitive to smells and get migraines from them. The kind of pillow I'd

like from you or someone on this list is a big spiritual cry pillow, that I

could cry into and it would hug me and make me feel better.

Jill

[Guest guest]

I don't know if I can make that kind of pillow but I can certainly

send you some hugs...consider yourself hugged. doris

> >If you can stuff it and sew the tiny opening shut, I will send you a

> >wonderful pillow (after you stuff it) that is great for under necks,

> >arms, legs...wherever. I will need a mailing address too.

> >mkayla38@y... Doris

> >

> I was joking! I have lots of special neck pillows cause I have

> fibromyalgia. Problem is, most of them are scented and I am really

> sensitive to smells and get migraines from them. The kind of pillow I'd

> like from you or someone on this list is a big spiritual cry pillow,

that I

> could cry into and it would hug me and make me feel better.

>

> Jill

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At 11:30 PM 10/1/2002 +0000, you wrote:

>I don't know if I can make that kind of pillow but I can certainly

>send you some hugs...consider yourself hugged. doris

>

Thanks.

[Guest guest]

" how hungry am I? Am I just a little hungry? Am I

somewhat hungry? Am I very hungry? " And as I eat think about how full my

tummy is. Is it a little full, somewhat full, feel just right, feel

Sharon, I like your insights. Thanks for sharing what you found because it

is so helpful to me to read what others are learning. I was thinking when I

read what you wrote above about something that I read somewhere that if we

tell ourselves we are " starving " , or " ravenous " and such that we are much

more likely to overeat. I have noticed that when I'm really, really hungry,

it's easier to eat more than I need just because my head is telling me that

I " need " to, but if I tell myself simply that I'm hungry and give myself the

normal size portion, knowing that I can go back later if it's not enough, it

tends to be enough. It's the thinking about my tummy while I'm eating that

I stumble on time and again. I have learned to take no more than half of

what I used to would eat, eat it, then wait 20 minutes and if I'm still

hungry, get more. It works when I follow that plan, but I often do listen

to the " I'm starving " voice in my head and overeat.

Leisa

Hello

> Hi Everyone

>

> I got my 3 books I ordered last week in the mail. If Not Diet, Then

> What? Calm Eating and the Empowerment Cards. As I have a sore back

> it's a good excuse to lie in bed and read.

>

> In the Introduction he made a comment about doing what works for us. A

> little light went on in my head. Some people have success with

> dieting....WW has both their successful finishes, the yo yo participants

> who go up one week in weight and down the next, and don't seem to be

> getting very far. Then there are those to get to their goal weight and

> then come back 2 years later bigger and heavier than they were the first

> time they went. I think it's the same for most of the diets around like

> SB, Atkins, WW, Craig. When I went to the WW group on a Friday

> morning there was a mixed bag of us...some doing well, some yo yoing and

> a few life members back to lose their weight again. When the Friday

> morning group stopped and the Monday night group was the only one going,

> most of the Friday group stopped going altogether as they didn't want to

> go Monday night. Over the past couple of years I have seen just about

> everyone from that old Friday morning group, and we've all, except for

> one person, gotten heavier. One particular lady had lost something like

> 80 pounds, and now she is so big that I expect she's put that 80 pounds

> back on.

>

> So what am I getting at lol lol. For me, thinking of eating according to

> numbers isn't working. In the Introduction of the book I've started

> reading Dr Kausman says " What we need to do is to gather all the

> relevant information and find the best way of putting it together for

> each one of us. The best plan of action also involves working on why we

> are having difficulty achieving and maintaining a healthy weight, having

> the right perspective, and being prepared to develop our own skills to

> help us achieve what we want.

>

> It got me to thinking about why we are going with the intuitive way of

> eating. How many of us secretly are looking at it as a means to lose

> weight? I want to lose weight. I will do it only by stopping overeating

> and listening to my body. I'm not doing it

> just to lose weight, but that is what one of the outcomes I expect to

> happen. It's one of the things I'm both hoping and expecting to happen.

> But I was to get the out-of -control food eating out of my life. I want

> to have a happy relationship with food, but the honesty part says......I

> want this to work, because if it does, I will lose weight.

>

> Numbering my hunger and full level confuses me. So I'm not going to eat

> by numbers anymore. I'm going to think in terms of how hungry I feel. To

> stop, and take note of what my stomach is doing and feeling and to ask

> questions more like " how hungry am I? Am I just a little hungry? Am I

> somewhat hungry? Am I very hungry? " And as I eat think about how full my

> tummy is. Is it a little full, somewhat full, feel just right, feel

> full? The numbers make me feel stuck in a restrictive place. I guess

> it's all about, like he said.....take all the information about

> intuitive eating and find that place where it all comes together for me.

> Because, as he also said.....we have different issues as well that we're

> working on.

>

> Sharon

>

>

>

>

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No, I don't have access to a copy of the book. Library doesn't have it, and I

can't afford to buy a copy right now. But, I've looked at his website. )

Thanks!

Jenn

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>Jen, I know I have said this before but have you read The Overfed

>Head by Rob s? There is hardly a question he doesn't answer.

>It is short and very concise.

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