Guest guest Posted August 6, 2001 Report Share Posted August 6, 2001 Thank you again for your reply, and again an exceptionally thoughtful and considered one. Looks like I will just need to get your book! Does it have the protocol that you consider less dangerous and flawed in it? _Phyllis [ ] Re: DMSA OTC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aren't you afraid to use it without a > > > > > > > doctor to rely > > > > > > > > on for advice? > > > > > > > > > > Did you vaccinate your children on a doctor's advice? > > > > > > > > > > >It does have side effects. > > > > > > > > > > Did the doctor mention autism as one of the possible side > effects? > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Phyllis > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps a doctor's advice isn't all it is cracked up to be? > > > > > > > > > > Andy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ======================================================= > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2001 Report Share Posted August 6, 2001 > > > > > No, and I agree with you that Docotors are neither honest or > > > > all-knowing, > > > > > > > > Actually I think most of them are honest. Despite the fact that > > they > > > > are actually trained not to be in certain specific areas, they are > > > > mostly decent people and the training doesn't take too well. > > > > > > > > The dangerous part is that they know a lot LESS than you give them > > > > credit for, but are taought that they know a lot MORE than they > > > > actually do. Most of them believe this. > > > > > > > > > but I don't feel one should throw the proverbial baby out with > > the > > > > bath > > > > > water and the thought that one should suddenly act as a doctor > > on > > > > their own > > > > > behalf, (or worse yet another person's behalf) is scary. > > > > > > > > You are confusing the doctor's role with the parent's role. The > > > > parent makes the decisions. The doctor gives advice, performs > > > > procedures, orders tests and prescribes medications. The doctor > > does > > > > not BY LAW make the decisions, something the AMA has been fighting > > > > with the courts about ever since it got licensure laws in place. > > > > > > > > To make decisions, the parent needs good information. The doctor > > is > > > > one source of that. Since doctors are not as a rule giving > > > > particularly good information in this area, parents are turning to > > > > other sources. But they continue to exercise their proper role, > > > > making decisions about their child's care based on the best > > > > information available to them. > > > > > > > > > At he risk of going to far to prove my point, I certainly > > > > wouldn't want > > > > > to now attempt open-heart surgery, even though docotors are > > neither > > > > honest > > > > > or all-knowing! > > > > > > > > Performing the surgery is a technician's job. It requires great > > > > skill. But the important issue is whether you need the surgery or > > > > not, and the doctor does not make that decision. He makes > > > > recommendations and you decide for yourself. Then you decide > > which > > > > technician to employ to do the job if you decide to do it. > > > > > > > > > Not that chelation is open-heart surgery, but doctors have > > gone > > > > to > > > > > school and training for alot of years to learn a skill, a > > profession > > > > and > > > > > untrained people suddenly acting as doctors is frightening to > > me. > > > > > > > > Doctors receive far less training in chelation in medical school > > and > > > > residency than any parent who has read this list for a week has > > > > already received. I kid you not. Since, unlike the parents, they > > are > > > > trained to be confident in their ability to wing it, they will > > > > routinely prescribe dangerous and harmful therapies in this area > > on > > > > the basis of talking to someone, or reading a few pages out of a > > book. > > > > > > > > >I was > > > > > just wondering if it wouldn't be safer for people to find DAN > > > > educated > > > > > doctors. > > > > > > > > No. DAN! seems fixated on a harmful and inappropriate protocol > > for > > > > unknown reasons, despite the fact that some of the doctors > > advancing > > > > it don't actually do it that way. > > > > > > > > The more I hear about what is going on with the DAN! doctors the > > more > > > > I wonder if parents wouldn't be better off avoiding them. At > > least if > > > > they browbeat their pediactrician into prescribing, s/he'll be > > scared > > > > about not knowing what is going on. The DAN! doctors have a very > > > > limited understanding of what is going on, yet are quite confident > > in > > > > prescribing. This is a bad combination. > > > > > > > > I do believe most or all of the DAN! doctors really do want to > > help, > > > > but their medical education did not prepare them to be able to > > > > understand what to do, or to be able to figure it out. > > > > > > > > >I did not mean to offend anyone, > > > > > > > > No offense taken. > > > > > > > > >but the well-being of alot of > > > > > kids out there prompted me to at least bring up the subject. > > > > > > > > Their safety is paramount. Which is why parents have to realize > > that > > > > they MUST take responsibility to make the decisions, and to get > > > > involved enough to do so, since the doc's are not able to do it > > > > responsibly in this area as a rule. > > > > > > > > After all, you got in trouble in the first place letting doc's > > make > > > > decisions for you that they weren't able to make responsibly. > > > > > > > > The role of the doctor is as a consultant, making the relevant > > parts > > > > of their training and experience accessible to the parents so the > > > > parents can make good decisions without having to go to medical > > school > > > > first. The doc's role is NOT the one most of them play - > > controlling > > > > the flow of information so the parents are led only to the > > decision > > > > the doc wishes them to make. > > > > > > > > > -Phyllis > > > > > [ ] Re: DMSA OTC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aren't you afraid to use it without a > > > > > > > > doctor to rely > > > > > > > > > on for advice? > > > > > > > > > > > > Did you vaccinate your children on a doctor's advice? > > > > > > > > > > > > >It does have side effects. > > > > > > > > > > > > Did the doctor mention autism as one of the possible side > > effects? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Phyllis > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps a doctor's advice isn't all it is cracked up to be? > > > > > > > > > > > > Andy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ======================================================= > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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