Re: New member had Davinci robotic

[Guest guest]

Hello all. My cancer was detected after biopsy as the PSA numbers

were jumping around. I was 5.2 prior to biopsy with a Gleason score

of 6. At 63 with 2 kids we had no doubts as to which way to go which

was to have the robotic surgery. I had prior consultations with the

radiation oncologist who told me that if I had gone for

brachytherapy or radiation there would be no chance of effective

surgery later had either of these methods proved unsuccessful. This

just confirmed my original decision.

My surgery in New Brunswick NJ on 6 June was carried out by Dr Kim

who had done some 200 procedures prior to my first meeting with him.

I was discharged the following day with a catheter that remained for

8 days and a daily 50mg dose of Viagra to initially help with

healing rather than for the ed. Since removal I have been 99%

continent which is a great feeling after reading some horror stories

of others being incontinent for many months even years.

Some 3 weeks down the line my incisions are healing well after being

glued shut. I had some initial back/shoulder pain caused likely by

the gas that is pumped in during the procedure.

I am back driving and walking daily with little or no discomfort.

BTW I recommend a recliner chair for the first weeks at least as it

helps to have your legs elevated.

The one obvious initial downside is that my penis is noticeably

shorter which may be because the urethra is cut during the

procedure. Have any of you noticed this??

I also get a tingling feeling rather that burning after peeing which

may be because of the catheter irritating the urethra, hopefully

this will go with time. Any comments on this aspect?

Al the best and keep well.

In ProstateCancerSupport , " Fuller "

wrote:

>

> Dear Hirsel62:

>

> Welcome, and feel free to ask questions of the forum.

>

> Please tell us about yourself; cancer stats and history, where you

had

> your surgery, etc.

>

> Fuller

>

>

> >

> > Welcome new member

> >

> >

> >

> > Email address: hirsel62 <hirsel62@>

> >

> > Comment from user:

> > I am 63 and have just had successful surgery by the davinci

robotic

> > method.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hello all. My cancer was detected after biopsy as the PSA numbers

were jumping around. I was 5.2 prior to biopsy with a Gleason score

of 6. At 63 with 2 kids we had no doubts as to which way to go which

was to have the robotic surgery. I had prior consultations with the

radiation oncologist who told me that if I had gone for

brachytherapy or radiation there would be no chance of effective

surgery later had either of these methods proved unsuccessful. This

just confirmed my original decision.

My surgery in New Brunswick NJ on 6 June was carried out by Dr Kim

who had done some 200 procedures prior to my first meeting with him.

I was discharged the following day with a catheter that remained for

8 days and a daily 50mg dose of Viagra to initially help with

healing rather than for the ed. Since removal I have been 99%

continent which is a great feeling after reading some horror stories

of others being incontinent for many months even years.

Some 3 weeks down the line my incisions are healing well after being

glued shut. I had some initial back/shoulder pain caused likely by

the gas that is pumped in during the procedure.

I am back driving and walking daily with little or no discomfort.

BTW I recommend a recliner chair for the first weeks at least as it

helps to have your legs elevated.

The one obvious initial downside is that my penis is noticeably

shorter which may be because the urethra is cut during the

procedure. Have any of you noticed this??

I also get a tingling feeling rather that burning after peeing which

may be because of the catheter irritating the urethra, hopefully

this will go with time. Any comments on this aspect?

Al the best and keep well.

In ProstateCancerSupport , " Fuller "

wrote:

>

> Dear Hirsel62:

>

> Welcome, and feel free to ask questions of the forum.

>

> Please tell us about yourself; cancer stats and history, where you

had

> your surgery, etc.

>

> Fuller

>

>

> >

> > Welcome new member

> >

> >

> >

> > Email address: hirsel62 <hirsel62@>

> >

> > Comment from user:

> > I am 63 and have just had successful surgery by the davinci

robotic

> > method.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi:

As you can see just one click will post the message, it is slow

sometimes, so you don't have to do it again-- I did this myself at first.

Congratulations on the successful surgery. Keep us informed on

follow-up PSA's etc!

Re the " shortened penis " - this subject stirred up a great deal of

interest about a month ago. Enter " shortened penis " in the search

block at the right top of the page and click search, and some of these

messages will show up. There is a difference of opinion here on the

forum. My own opinion is that it is a usual result of the surgery, (I

did not have surgery, so cannot speak from experience) but some

surgeons go to some lengths, (dropping bladder, etc,) to mitigate

this, Others here have different opinions, Most say you must

" exercise " the shortened member to have a return to near normalcy,

which will take time.

Glad to have you here!

Fuller

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-- In ProstateCancerSupport , " hirsel62 "

wrote:

>

> Hello all. My cancer was detected after biopsy as the PSA numbers

> were jumping around. I was 5.2 prior to biopsy with a Gleason score

> of 6. At 63 with 2 kids we had no doubts as to which way to go which

> was to have the robotic surgery. I had prior consultations with the

> radiation oncologist who told me that if I had gone for

> brachytherapy or radiation there would be no chance of effective

> surgery later had either of these methods proved unsuccessful. This

> just confirmed my original decision.

> My surgery in New Brunswick NJ on 6 June was carried out by Dr Kim

> who had done some 200 procedures prior to my first meeting with him.

> I was discharged the following day with a catheter that remained for

> 8 days and a daily 50mg dose of Viagra to initially help with

> healing rather than for the ed. Since removal I have been 99%

> continent which is a great feeling after reading some horror stories

> of others being incontinent for many months even years.

> Some 3 weeks down the line my incisions are healing well after being

> glued shut. I had some initial back/shoulder pain caused likely by

> the gas that is pumped in during the procedure.

> I am back driving and walking daily with little or no discomfort.

> BTW I recommend a recliner chair for the first weeks at least as it

> helps to have your legs elevated.

> The one obvious initial downside is that my penis is noticeably

> shorter which may be because the urethra is cut during the

> procedure. Have any of you noticed this??

> I also get a tingling feeling rather that burning after peeing which

> may be because of the catheter irritating the urethra, hopefully

> this will go with time. Any comments on this aspect?

> Al the best and keep well.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hirsel62 - You may always notice a size difference in your flaccid penis. If you're lucky though with a lot of work via pump and Viagra, you should get most of your erect penis size back, which really is the important part right? So you don't get discouraged, gauge your success by weeks instead of days.... it helps. I had surgery in January 06 and I would be happy to share my success stories with you if you'd like. Take it easy and keep in touch. Mick hirsel62 wrote: Hello all. My cancer was detected after biopsy as the PSA numbers were jumping around. I was 5.2 prior to biopsy with a Gleason score of 6. At 63 with 2 kids we had no doubts as to which way to go which was to have the robotic surgery. I had prior consultations with the radiation oncologist who told me that if I had gone for brachytherapy or radiation there would be no chance of effective surgery later had either of these methods proved unsuccessful. This just confirmed my original decision. My surgery in New Brunswick NJ on 6 June was carried out by Dr Kim who had done some 200 procedures prior to my first meeting with him. I was discharged the following day with a catheter that remained for 8 days and a daily 50mg dose of Viagra to initially help with healing

rather than for the ed. Since removal I have been 99% continent which is a great feeling after reading some horror stories of others being incontinent for many months even years. Some 3 weeks down the line my incisions are healing well after being glued shut. I had some initial back/shoulder pain caused likely by the gas that is pumped in during the procedure. I am back driving and walking daily with little or no discomfort. BTW I recommend a recliner chair for the first weeks at least as it helps to have your legs elevated. The one obvious initial downside is that my penis is noticeably shorter which may be because the urethra is cut during the procedure. Have any of you noticed this?? I also get a tingling feeling rather that burning after peeing which may be because of the catheter irritating the urethra, hopefully this will go with time. Any comments on this aspect? Al the best and keep well.

In ProstateCancerSupport , "Fuller " wrote: > > Dear Hirsel62: > > Welcome, and feel free to ask questions of the forum. > > Please tell us about yourself; cancer stats and history, where you had > your surgery, etc. > > Fuller > > > > > > Welcome new member > > > > > > > > Email address: hirsel62 <hirsel62@> > > > > Comment from user: > > I am 63 and have just had successful surgery by the davinci robotic > > method. > > > God rewards those that keep on keeping on. Stay positive. Think positive. Pray positive. And talk positive.

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[Guest guest]

I am 52 years old. Had psa 5.2, gleason 3+3 on bx. 4 weeks ago had daVinci rp. Went home

the day after surgery with a catheter for 1 week. What a relief to get rid of that thing. Spent the first week in

a recliner in my porch. Weather was beautiful. So, I agree with the previous post. Virtually no urine leakage.

I thought my penis was shorter initally. Have been taking cialis, and using the penile pump to encourage blood flow. I sometimes

imagine penis trying to get up.

I wish I measured the stretched length before and after. Now, I'm back at the gym everyday, and ready to go back to work.

My final path had gleason 3+3, 1% of 30cc prostate involved.

Other than erection issue, I almost can't tell I had surgery. urine comes out a lot faster. I initially had occ twitchy feelings in my bladder, which

is just about resolved. My bladder capacity is about what it was before surgery.

charlie

Hello all. My cancer was detected after biopsy as the PSA numbers were jumping around. I was 5.2 prior to biopsy with a Gleason score of 6. At 63 with 2 kids we had no doubts as to which way to go which was to have the robotic surgery. I had prior consultations with the radiation oncologist who told me that if I had gone for brachytherapy or radiation there would be no chance of effective surgery later had either of these methods proved unsuccessful. This just confirmed my original decision.

My surgery in New Brunswick NJ on 6 June was carried out by Dr Kim who had done some 200 procedures prior to my first meeting with him.I was discharged the following day with a catheter that remained for 8 days and a daily 50mg dose of Viagra to initially help with healing rather than for the ed. Since removal I have been 99% continent which is a great feeling after reading some horror stories of others being incontinent for many months even years.Some 3 weeks down the line my incisions are healing well after being glued shut. I had some initial back/shoulder pain caused likely by the gas that is pumped in during the procedure.I am back driving and walking daily with little or no discomfort. BTW I recommend a recliner chair for the first weeks at least as it helps to have your legs elevated.The one obvious initial downside is that my penis is noticeably shorter which may be because the urethra is cut during the procedure. Have any of you noticed this??I also get a tingling feeling rather that burning after peeing which may be because of the catheter irritating the urethra, hopefully this will go with time. Any comments on this aspect?Al the best and keep well.In

ProstateCancerSupport , " Fuller " wrote:>> Dear Hirsel62:> > Welcome, and feel free to ask questions of the forum.> > Please tell us about yourself; cancer stats and history, where you had> your surgery, etc.> > Fuller> > > >> > Welcome new member> > > > > > > > Email address: hirsel62 <hirsel62@>

> > > > Comment from user:> > I am 63 and have just had successful surgery by the davinci robotic> > method.> >>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

The doctor was not exactly honest with you. One can have surgery after

treatment with brachytherapy or radiation. But why would one go that

route?. It the cancer returns after brachytherapy, radiation or surgery, it

means that the cancer was outside the prostate before therapy. Further

local treatment would probably not be effective. If the lccal therapy fails,

then one should probably look for other therapies.

I wish you all the bestAubrey Pilgrim, DC (Ret.)Author of A Revolutionary Approach to Prostate Cancer-Read it for free at http://www.cancer.prostate-help.org/capilgr.htmDr. E. Crawford is co-author of the revision

Hello all. My cancer was detected after biopsy as the PSA numbers were jumping around. I was 5.2 prior to biopsy with a Gleason score of 6. At 63 with 2 kids we had no doubts as to which way to go which was to have the robotic surgery. I had prior consultations with the radiation oncologist who told me that if I had gone for brachytherapy or radiation there would be no chance of effective surgery later had either of these methods proved unsuccessful. This just confirmed my original decision.My surgery in New Brunswick NJ on 6 June was carried out by Dr Kim who had done some 200 procedures prior to my first meeting with him.I was discharged the following day with a catheter that remained for 8 days and a daily 50mg dose of Viagra to initially help with healing rather than for the ed. Since removal I have been 99% continent which is a great feeling after reading some horror stories of others being incontinent for many months even years.Some 3 weeks down the line my incisions are healing well after being glued shut. I had some initial back/shoulder pain caused likely by the gas that is pumped in during the procedure.I am back driving and walking daily with little or no discomfort. BTW I recommend a recliner chair for the first weeks at least as it helps to have your legs elevated.The one obvious initial downside is that my penis is noticeably shorter which may be because the urethra is cut during the procedure. Have any of you noticed this??I also get a tingling feeling rather that burning after peeing which may be because of the catheter irritating the urethra, hopefully this will go with time. Any comments on this aspect?Al the best and keep well.

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[Guest guest]

The doctor is being partially honest. Surgery after radiation treatment is possible, but so difficult that only a few surgeons will attempt it. Problem is that the prostate after radiation is rendered in a sticky state not unlike that of a partially melted caramel cube. The method of choice in this case is cryosurgery.

Louis. . .

Re: Re: New member had Davinci robotic

Hi,

The doctor was not exactly honest with you. One can have surgery after

treatment with brachytherapy or radiation. But why would one go that

route?. It the cancer returns after brachytherapy, radiation or surgery, it

means that the cancer was outside the prostate before therapy. Further

local treatment would probably not be effective. If the lccal therapy fails,

then one should probably look for other therapies.

I wish you all the bestAubrey Pilgrim, DC (Ret.)Author of A Revolutionary Approach to Prostate Cancer-Read it for free at http://www.cancer. prostate- help.org/ capilgr.htmDr. E. Crawford is co-author of the revision

In a message dated 7/1/2007 10:48:46 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, hirsel62yahoo (DOT) com writes:

Hello all. My cancer was detected after biopsy as the PSA numbers were jumping around. I was 5.2 prior to biopsy with a Gleason score of 6. At 63 with 2 kids we had no doubts as to which way to go which was to have the robotic surgery. I had prior consultations with the radiation oncologist who told me that if I had gone for brachytherapy or radiation there would be no chance of effective surgery later had either of these methods proved unsuccessful. This just confirmed my original decision.My surgery in New Brunswick NJ on 6 June was carried out by Dr Kim who had done some 200 procedures prior to my first meeting with him.I was discharged the following day with a catheter that remained for 8 days and a daily 50mg dose of Viagra to initially help with healing rather than for the ed. Since removal I have been 99% continent which is a great feeling after reading some horror stories of others being incontinent for many

months even years.Some 3 weeks down the line my incisions are healing well after being glued shut. I had some initial back/shoulder pain caused likely by the gas that is pumped in during the procedure.I am back driving and walking daily with little or no discomfort. BTW I recommend a recliner chair for the first weeks at least as it helps to have your legs elevated.The one obvious initial downside is that my penis is noticeably shorter which may be because the urethra is cut during the procedure. Have any of you noticed this??I also get a tingling feeling rather that burning after peeing which may be because of the catheter irritating the urethra, hopefully this will go with time. Any comments on this aspect?Al the best and keep well.

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[Guest guest]

The latest issue of the s Hopkins Prostate Bulletin (Summer

2007) says in a Q & A that, " After external beam or brachytherapy, the

blood supply of tissues is severely impaired and the area of the

prostate and lower bladder are so scarred that surgical wounds may

not heal well. For this reason, most surgeons will not operate or

advise operations for patients who have undergone radiation

therapy. Furthermore, the recurrence may well be due to disease

outside the prostate and an operation would not cure this. " Another

reference to salvage radical prostatectomy in the same issue

describes it as technically demanding surgery that most urologists

are not willing to perform " because of the high complication

rates. " They state that, " Salvage cryotherapy (freezing the

prostate) and hormonal therapy may also be utilized in an effort to

control the recurrent cancer. "

>

> The doctor is being partially honest. Surgery after radiation

treatment is possible, but so difficult that only a few surgeons

will attempt it. Problem is that the prostate after radiation is

rendered in a sticky state not unlike that of a partially melted

caramel cube. The method of choice in this case is cryosurgery.

>

> Louis. . .

>

>

> Re: Re: New member had Davinci

robotic

>

> Hi,

>

> The doctor was not exactly honest with you. One can have surgery

after

> treatment with brachytherapy or radiation. But why would one go

that

> route?. It the cancer returns after brachytherapy, radiation or

surgery, it

> means that the cancer was outside the prostate before therapy.

Further

> local treatment would probably not be effective. If the lccal

therapy fails,

> then one should probably look for other therapies.

>

>

> I wish you all the best

>

> Aubrey Pilgrim, DC (Ret.)

> Author of A Revolutionary Approach to Prostate Cancer-

> Read it for free at http://www.cancer. prostate- help.org/

capilgr.htm

> Dr. E. Crawford is co-author of the revision

>

>

>

> In a message dated 7/1/2007 10:48:46 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

hirsel62yahoo (DOT) com writes:

> Hello all. My cancer was detected after biopsy as the PSA numbers

> were jumping around. I was 5.2 prior to biopsy with a Gleason

score

> of 6. At 63 with 2 kids we had no doubts as to which way to go

which

> was to have the robotic surgery. I had prior consultations with

the

> radiation oncologist who told me that if I had gone for

> brachytherapy or radiation there would be no chance of effective

> surgery later had either of these methods proved unsuccessful.

This

> just confirmed my original decision.

> My surgery in New Brunswick NJ on 6 June was carried out by Dr Kim

> who had done some 200 procedures prior to my first meeting with

him.

> I was discharged the following day with a catheter that remained

for

> 8 days and a daily 50mg dose of Viagra to initially help with

> healing rather than for the ed. Since removal I have been 99%

> continent which is a great feeling after reading some horror

stories

> of others being incontinent for many months even years.

> Some 3 weeks down the line my incisions are healing well after

being

> glued shut. I had some initial back/shoulder pain caused likely by

> the gas that is pumped in during the procedure.

> I am back driving and walking daily with little or no discomfort.

> BTW I recommend a recliner chair for the first weeks at least as

it

> helps to have your legs elevated.

> The one obvious initial downside is that my penis is noticeably

> shorter which may be because the urethra is cut during the

> procedure. Have any of you noticed this??

> I also get a tingling feeling rather that burning after peeing

which

> may be because of the catheter irritating the urethra, hopefully

> this will go with time. Any comments on this aspect?

> Al the best and keep well.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> See what's free at AOL.com.

>