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has started lining things up. Mostly videos, but also books and toy

cars. He's never done this before. He gets very upset if you try to take the

items away or break up his line at all. Is he regressing, or is this a sign of

a new phase? He's been doing so well at school and at home lately, I don't know

what to think.

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--- Maybe just a new phase? A type of relaxing stim to calm down?

Almost every evening after school my son does the same thing with

videos, toys, drugstore items, groceries, etc. See if he will let

you join the game. How is he lining them up? See if you can guess

the categories: movie companies, name of food companies, color,

size, full ozes.(my son's term for lining them up in numerical order

by fluid ounces -abbrev. fl. oz.)? See if you can guess and help

him. Make him interact with it if you can or if he needs it as a

solitary activity.Just a thought. Leggs

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on 4/2/02 9:04 PM, More Tuna at moretuna@... wrote:

" has started lining things up. Mostly videos, but also books and toy

cars. He's never done this before. He gets very upset if you try to take

the items away or break up his line at all. Is he regressing, or is this a

sign of a new phase? He's been doing so well at school and at home lately,

I don't know what to think. "

My son's favorite things to line up are videos. We would get those thick

cases from the library with pictures of Elmo and Blue- and he loves playing

with them. Sometimes he would put all the Blues on the Left and Sesame

Streets on the Right.

Other times he would get other Sesame or Blue object and add them to the

groups (which i saw as categories).

Lately, he's been more into books. Sometimes he gets mad if you take one-

other times it's like he doesn't care.

He'll also line items in the bathtub on the rim. He puts all the ducks

together- then all the other animals- in very neat rows. Then he adds the

shampoo bottles.

I read that it's a need for order- but i just don't know with my son.

He's 2.5 and getting a dx this week- hopefully- so maybe i'll know more.

I think it's the patterns with him- the lines and spaces and colors.

He's not OCD with other things. And sometimes he doesn't care if you mess

up the lines- so i just don't know.

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> I read that it's a need for order- but i just don't know with my son.

> He's 2.5 and getting a dx this week- hopefully- so maybe i'll know more.

> I think it's the patterns with him- the lines and spaces and colors.

> He's not OCD with other things. And sometimes he doesn't care if you mess

> up the lines- so i just don't know.

> -

It's an autism thing, .

used to line EVERYTHING up. It took a focused campaign to break that

one.

Jacquie

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Tuna, maybe he's really changing internally -- learning a bunch of new

stuff, or becoming more social -- and this is his way of coping.

When is really making a personal change for the better INTERNALLY, his

external signs are almost always dismal -- stimming, lining up, tantrumming,

verbal play. It's the times when I think he's regressing that he's actually

progressing in ways I just can't see yet.

(((hugs)))

Jacquie

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Tuna -

My feeling would be that it could be either/or, but I'd let it continue and

watch for other signs of regression or progression.

JM2cents.

Penny

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I wouldn't stop him, , unless it is totally disruptive to your

day...

Jacqui still lines things up, but it has turned more into a matter of play.

If you are not uncomfortable with it, I wouldn't stop him.

(There are pics of Jacqui in the files section lining up toys and

cards...she still does this occasionally, but it's always involved in

pretend play)

Penny

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Tuna, one of 's few remaining stims is lining up things too, and I agree

with Grace. Let him stim away. At least it's not destructive or obnoxious.

still only lines up like items tho, cars with cars, videos with videos, etc. How

did you get Madison to let you include other stuff without her freaking out

Grace?? I tried with and it resulted in a horrific tantrum.

" Grace Keh " wrote:

>Tuna, I just jump right in and straighten out Madison's lines. It's a

>surefire way to impress her, by being more meticulous than her. You should

>see the look of adoration and approval that follows when I straighten out

>her lines.

>

>I figure that it is one stim I can let be. I do go in and mess it all up

>once in awhile, but I always put it back in a line, showing her a different

>order, or add in another piece, or take out something, just to keep it

>different.

>I have noticed, though, that with time, her lines are consisting of more and

>more varied items. Like... what used to be 5 videos, or 10 legos, is now

>graduated to 2 videos, a cup, a speck of dust, a piece of string, a rubber

>band, a doll's head, a spoon, 3 legos, her shoe, my shoe and a piece of hair

>she finds LOL.

>

>My vote? Let it be. I think you can steer him into not getting upset if he

>learns to trust you in this " play " and realizes that you only better his

>lines, rather than ruining it.

>

>Just my opinion, of course. Jacquie would probably shoot me LOL!!

>

>Grace

> Is this bad?

>

>

>> has started lining things up. Mostly videos, but also books and

>toy cars. He's never done this before. He gets very upset if you try to

>take the items away or break up his line at all. Is he regressing, or is

>this a sign of a new phase? He's been doing so well at school and at home

>lately, I don't know what to think.

>>

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> Tuna, one of 's few remaining stims is lining up things too, and I

agree with Grace. Let him stim away. At least it's not destructive or

obnoxious. still only lines up like items tho, cars with cars, videos

with videos, etc. How did you get Madison to let you include other stuff

without her freaking out Grace?? I tried with and it resulted in a

horrific tantrum.

>

Thinking back, way back.... Madison also had a problem when I added onto her

lines. Never REALLY upset, just vocally against it.

So I made my own line while sitting next to her. Eventually, she would have

interest in MY line, and come to switch some pieces around.

Then on another day, Iwould make my line long enough to connect to hers.

Then straighten out the whole thing for her, and she'd agree.

Then - I would throw this or that into my disorganized line... and soon, her

lines consisted of anything under the sun. You can tell she thinks it's

funny now when I throw in a piece of cereal at the end of a line, and once

in awhile, she will chuck, clear across the room, whatever my addition was,

because apparently, it was a big no-no, LOL.

In other words, for a moment, I behaved as autistically as she does.

No sense is ruining a perfectly peaceful stim if really hates it that

much, though.

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's attempting to order his world, to make himself feel

more comfortable. I suppose this is better than not trying.

I don't know what others think - personally, as long as it's

not " weird " things that are socially unacceptable, I let

do it.

in Sydney, Australia

Mum to , 6yo AS ADHD, and , 5yo mild hearing

loss

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on 4/2/02 9:04 PM, More Tuna at moretuna@... wrote:

>>> has started lining things up. Mostly videos, but

also books and toy

cars. He's never done this before. He gets very upset if

you try to take

the items away or break up his line at all. Is he

regressing, or is this a

sign of a new phase? He's been doing so well at school and

at home lately,

I don't know what to think. <<<

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