A clutter of fellowships...

[Guest guest]

If you can be borthered to sift thru this there are some amusing gems in

with all the lists of meetings, etc. I must say that I am TOTALLY a

candidate for Clutterers Anonymous!

Pete

Subject: alt.recovery.clutter FAQ (fwd)

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Date: Tue, 26 JAN 1999 21:06:34 GMT

Newgroups: alt.recovery, alt.support, alt.recovery.procrastinate,

alt.recovery.procrastinatn

Subject: alt.recovery.clutter FAQ

alt.recovery.clutter is a place where people who have cluttering as a

problem can discuss methods of dealing with it, share Experience,

Strength and Hope, recommend books on decluttering (and ways to keep

them from becoming part of the clutter) and get contact information

for self-help groups. alt.recovery.clutter is not affiliated with any

organization, nor does it speak for any organization.

You may also be interested in the Decluttr mailing list:

Decluttr@.... To subscribe, send this message to

listserv@...: Subscribe Decluttr Your Name. Put this

in the body of the message (the Listserv software ignores subject

headings), and don't put anything else in the message (this includes

your signature). Note: " Decluttr " with one e.

And: a couple of web-based mailing lists at the Messies Home on the

Web: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/3337. One with a

Christian emphasis, one general.

Q: What is clutter? A: " Clutter is anything we don't need, want, or

use that takes our time, energy or space, and destroys our serenity.

It can be outgrown clothes, obsolete paper....We may be selective in

some areas, but not in others. Objects may be strewn about or wedged

into drawers; neatly stacked or stowed in storage. " The Twelve Steps

of Clutterers Anonymous, CLA WSO Literature Committee, approved

February 1996.

Q: Is cluttering a real problem? A: Anything that can get you evicted,

get your children taken away from you, keep you from inviting people

into your home, get you charged more by retailers and the tax

authorities because you can't find the paperwork needed to pay them on

time, is a real problem.

Q: Does cluttering go together with ___? A: Clutterers are more likely

to have one of these: clinical depression, Attention Deficit Disorder

(ADD), Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder. But none of these invariably

goes together with cluttering; and cluttering doesn't invariably go

together with any of them.

Organizations for clutterers

If there's an organization or local meeting not listed here which you

think should be, please let me know. I'm also interested in people's

experiences with groups.

Clutterers Anonymous World Service Organization is at PO Box 25884,

Santa Ana, CA 92799-5884. For information, send a long first class

self-addressed envelope with twice the minimum first-class postage.

(Nothing said about writing from outside the US for information. You

should be able to use International Reply Coupons, but I don't know

how many would be needed. My guess is 2 from Canada or Mexico, 4 from

elsewhere.)

Note: Phone numbers given only for CLA meetings which have okayed

having them on the Net.

California:

Carlsbad. Saturday, 10-11 am. St. s by the Sea, 2775 Carlsbad

Blvd.

Orange. Saturday, 4:30-6 pm. Mariposa Women's Ctr., 812 Town and

Country Rd.

Orange. Thursday, 5:30-6:30 pm. Mariposa Women's Ctr., 812 Town and

Country Rd.

San Diego. Saturday, 8-9:30 pm. J.Beers Uptown Comm. Ctr., Vermont at

Vermont Way

San Pedro. Tuesday, 10-11 am. Good Shepherd Lutheran, 1350 25th St.

(Note: CLA newsletter says to call first.)

Simi Valley. Wednesday, 7:30-9 pm, Simi Valley Presbyterian Church,

4832 Cochran, room 210.

South Bay. Thursday, 7-8:30 pm, Margaret Church, 25511 Eshelman,

Lomita.

South Bay. Friday, 9:15-10:45 am, Margaret Church, 25511

Eshelman, Lomita.

Westchester. Wednesday, 7:30-9 pm, Westchester United Church, 8065

Emerson, Crafts Room (Emerson & 80th).

West Los Angeles. Sunday. 1-2 pm. Palms Park, 2950 Overland Ave.

West Los Angeles. Monday. 6:30-7:30 pm. Felicia Mahood Sen. Ctr., Room

3, 11338 Santa Blvd.

District of Columbia (Washington): Friday. 7:30-8:30 pm. St. Albans

Episc. Church, Room 203, Wisconsin & Massachusetts NW.

Massachusetts:

Beverly. Tuesday. 7:1530 (sic) -8:30 pm. Beverly Hospital, Herrick

St., Doctor's Dining Room

Michigan:

Southfield. Thursday, 8:30-10 pm. Peace Lutheran Church, 17029 W. 13

Mile Rd.

Minnesota:

Minneapolis, Dan G., dsgood@... Thursday, 7:00-8:30

PM, First Unitarian Society, 900 Mt. Curve Ave., MPLS. Library

(straight back from front doors.) Note: will probably discontinue at

the end of January 1999. Call first -- preferably a day or two

early.

Roseville, 1st & 3rd Saturdays, 10 AM, Patsy, , St.

's Church, room 128, 2300 Hamline Ave. (Hwy. 36 & Hamline)

St. Louis Park, Second Saturday 12:15-1:15. Patsy, ,

Prince of Peace Lutheran Church, 8115 Highway 7, Hwy 7 & Texas Ave.,

across from Knollwood Mall.

New Jersey:

East Orange Monday 7:30 pm-9:00 pm 439 Main Street, Second Floor, next

to Domino's

River Edge Wednesday 7:30 pm-9:00 pm Temple Sholom, 385 Howland Ave

Union Monday 7:30 pm-8:30 pm Battle Hill Moravian Church, 777 Liberty

Ave

Wayne Wednesday 7:30 pm-8:30 pm St. 's Church, 395 Valley Road

Messies Anonymous: 5025 SW 114th Ave., Miami, FL 33165. 1-800-MESS AWAY

Quarterly newsletter $5 per year -- sample newsletter free. Internet:

info@.... Website: http://www.messies.com

CT: Farmington, Janibeth,

Greenwich, Judy,

New Haven. The New Haven group usually meets at the East Haven

library from 6:30-7:30 on the second and fourth Thursdays of the

month. Call Lee at to confirm.

FL: Ft. Lauderdale, ,

Miami, Maxine,

MI: Muskegon, Kathleen,

Muskegon, Kathy, (!?!)

MN: Columbia Heights, Barb, 571-4592. Thursday, 7 pm, St. s

Church, 4101 Washington St.

NJ: Lindenwold, Sharon,

Palmyra, Basia,

NY: Forest Hills, Marie,

OR: Portland, Carla,

OR: Portland, Lee,

TX: Dallas, Texas now has a Messies Anonymous group.... Meetings 1st

and 3rd Mondays of the month. Meeting place: Denny's Restaurant

(meeting room), Meadow and Central (75), Dallas, Texas. Time:

7:00-8:00 pm. For more info contact: Jane K. at or

Betty M. at Betty M. email: betme2345@...

WA: Aberdeen, ,

Greater Seattle Area: " We have an active MA group here (the Greater

Seattle area)..... Our meetings are the 1st and 3rd Tues of the

month. Our contact phone number is: [sue at] . "

WI: Brown Deer, Jeanne,

Eau , Dixie,

" If you write to the address for the newsletter and include your city

and state, you will receive a list of others in the area who have

asked for the same information OR the name and number of the person

who has organized such a group--if there is one. You will also receive

as much information and support as you might need if you want to start

your own group. " Bonnie Rice

Change: You can now ask from the website.

Passed on by Lori Burkart

'A Hoarders' and Clutterers' Support Group has been formed in San

Francisco and meets twice a month (2nd and 4th Mondays, 3-4 p.m.)

'The flyer reads:

" For Mental Health Consumers who have too much stuff and want help,

the San Francisco Mental Health Association's Consumer Housing Group

presents a Hoarders' and Clutterers' Support Group "

' " Twice a month, starting Nov. 1997:

2nd Mondays ....

4th Mondays at Canon Kip, 705 Natoma (@ 8th St.)

' " [note: the Association is responding to the problem of evictions due

to Hoarding problems] " '

alt.recovery.clutter

(BRADFORDMC)

Sun Jan 18 1998

" I saw the original post of the San Francisco....group meetings and

attended my first meeting at the Madrid Hotel. Due to parking

restrictions and space considerations in that area the plan for the

2nd Monday in February is to meet @ the Canon Kip location, 705

Natoma@8th Street (S.F.) I find the support mutual and encouraging. I

encourage anyone interested in the area to attend. I also am

interested in the possibility of starting a meeting in the east bay.

One other person at the meeting lives in Berkeley. Due to a vision

problem, it would be much easier to attend meetings closer to home.

Anyone else interested? "

Informal: Minnesota; around St. Louis Park/Edina/Golden Valley --

someone who can't currently get to the CLA meetings would like to meet

informally. Call Zola at .

Useful Books, etc.

Felton. THE MESSIES MANUAL: The Procrastinator's Guide to Good

Housekeeping

THE MESSIES SUPERGUIDE: Strategies and Ideas for Conquering

Catastrophic Living.

MEDITATIONS FOR MESSIES

Alcoholics Anonymous TWELVE STEPS AND TWELVE TRADITIONS

Don Aslett: Clutter's Last Stand, Not For Pack Rats Only, How do I

Clean the Moosehead?

Culp: How to Organize, How to Simplify Your Life

Young and , Sidetracked Home Executives (Warner 1981)

Young and , The Sidetracked Sisters Catch-up on the Kitchen

(Warner 1983)

Young and , The Sidetracked Sisters' Happiness File (Warner 1985)

Young and , Get Your Act Together (Harper 1993).

(....) SHE and GYAT can usually be found at large chain bookstores or

Christian bookstores (these are not " Christian " publications, per se).

The sisters themselves peddle a variety of SHE items.... Address is:

Sidetracked Home Executives, Inc.

P. O. Box 5364

Vancouver, WA 98668 [360] 696-4091

http//www.shesintouch.com

" Confessions of an Organized Homemaker " by Deniece Schofield.

(Publisher: Betterway Books, Cincinnati OH. The cover lists it at

10.99US, 15.99CAN, 7.99UK).

" Lighten Up! Free Yourself From Clutter, " by Passoff, Harper

Publishers, 1998. ISBN 0-06-095265-2.

Wed, 25 Feb 1998

MRS BONNIE J RICE

Home Organization Booklist Online

Dan, It's official, I've moved my website to

http://getolife.hypermart.net and am hoping to provide more

interactivity with the new site. I'm working on making the site more

helpful. Any ideas would be appreciated.

I just finished reorganizing my home organization book list into

categories instead of by author. If you are looking for the perfect

book on meal-planning or paper handling or clutter control, you can

actually go to that section of the list. Many of the books can be

ordered through Amazon directly from the list and some of the authors

have websites of their own that are linked to the list.

http://getolife.hypermart.net/booklist.html

Fri, 23 Jan 1998

ttista

cleaning tools

I follow Don Aslett's book Is There Life After Housework. You can get

his catalog 1-. I use his mop, it's called a scrubbee doo.

really.

He explains how to use the right cleaning tools, and cleaning products.

Fri, 27 Feb 1998

Stella Sloop

SHE Online...

For those of you who have been wondering what in the world the SHE

Online thing is all about, and for those who may have been too late to

take advantage of it this past time, here's hope:

from the Get O message board of AOL

Re: March Is Clean Sweep Month!

(Get O CEO)

27 Feb 1998

'Kim asks if the Delphi service (new home of SHE's Online and 21 Days

to SHE) is another service like AOL.

'Kim, yes and no. Yes, you can get Internet access through Delphi.

No, it's not necessary to have a paid account to visit Custom Forum

222, the Get Organized Board, on the World Wide Web:

http://www.delphi.com/mc When it asks " Go to Forum by Number " , type in

222.

'All you do is sign up for a FREE membership at the log in page.

Don't worry, you can't miss it. Pick a username and a password. and

you're up and running.

'In format, Delphi is pretty nice. Messages are threaded, and easy to

read and to post. There's no length limitation like the Slob Sisters

Online message board. And since blessed Delphi permits me to retain

copyright, it's JUST the place to post the 21 Days essays--don't miss

out!...'

http//www.organizedhome.com

Sat, 11 April 1998

Mycala W Shaulis

Kitchen Web Link

http://www.123sortit.com/toc.html

It covers not just the kitchen, but virtually every room in the house.

Sat, 11 April 1998

Josie

Financial Info: What to Keep

I ran across this link while working on our taxes today:

http://www.quicken.com/saving/frugal/

It is an article by Jane Quinn on how to organize financial

records --it covers what to keep, how long to keep it, and logical

ways to organize it.

Wed, 27 May 1998

OrganizeWize

Now that I'm getting more content to my pages I was wondering if you

would add Organize Wize to your FAQ. I have added a printable form

that helps for setting goals called Daily Active Enforcement (DAE) Goal

page and info on how to get started decluttering (or achieving any

goal) called " Charting the course " .

Nita in MT FREE Ezine, online signup

Organize Wize: http://organizewize.hypermart.net

Thu, 18 June 1998

Balance Check

DECLUTTR: change of site address - balance check - FAQ

Home page: http://members.aol.com/balanceck/

DeCluttr FAQ: http://user.cybrzn.com/~kenyonck/add/faq_clutter.html

DeCluttr FAQ - SHORT:

http://user.cybrzn.com/~kenyonck/add/faq_short_decluttr.html

Clutter Books:

http://user.cybrzn.com/~kenyonck/add/books/clutter_books.htm Clutter