Re: Sorry for my big virtual mouth

[Guest guest]

Hi Jill,

You may have the gene but that doesn't necessarily mean your daughter will get

bc. We have a daughter who is 33 and she started with mammos at age 30. Just be

sure to start your daughter at around 18 doing breast self exams so she gets to

know her breasts and start with mammos at 30 or sooner if need be.

Hugs

nne

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Re: Sorry for my big virtual mouth

Thanks, Gloria and nne, for accepting my big mouth. Your emails come

at a good time. I just learned today that I have a 60% chance of having a

gene that causes breast cancer. I had blood drawn but it will take a month

or so to find out. I don't care so much for me. A single or double

mastectomy doesn't make that much difference. Having an eleven-year-old

daughter to whom I might have passed on this gene, however, makes me feel

pretty lousy. So thanks for letting me vent.

Jill

At 07:11 PM 10/14/2002 -0700, you wrote:

>I, too, love all the responses as long as they add a

>comment. Yours have been great. On other lists,

>sometimes a person will get so involved in a

>discussion that they only say something like: " Oh yes

>I agree. " Those are the ones I am not interested in.

>But yours I always read. So, keep it up...makes life

>interesting.

>Bye for now,

>GLoria

[Guest guest]

At 03:25 PM 10/15/2002 -0500, you wrote:

>Hi Jill,

>You may have the gene but that doesn't necessarily mean your daughter will

>get bc. We have a daughter who is 33 and she started with mammos at age

>30. Just be sure to start your daughter at around 18 doing breast self

>exams so she gets to know her breasts and start with mammos at 30 or

>sooner if need be.

Will do, if I'm still around when Sara's 18. That's 7 years. A long time

for someone with a 40% of kicking the bucket in the next 2-5 years. I don't

know how to explain it, but I'm psychic about some things. I knew I would

get cancer in my right breast, though I thought I'd have an extra decade. I

fell in love with my husband and knew he was my soulmate two months before

I met him, when a mutual friend briefly described him. And I know I have

this gene.

It's not all bad. I may just remain breastless and wear baggy shirts. Or if

I get muscle tissue reconstruction, I will certain opt for a smaller, less

saggy boobs! No more breasts resting comfortably in my lap. You know

what's annoying, though? If a fat man took off his shirt in public and

displayed the sort of " breasts " fat men get, he'd be perfectly legal. But

if I had a double mastectomy and took off my shirt in public, displaying

only flat scars, I'd be arrested for indecent exposure. People with burns

and scars all over their faces and bodies don't get arrested for indecent

exposure. Maybe I will get piercings all over the place and keep my hair

short and spiky and stay flat and be androgenous. Being a survivor of

childhood sexual abuse has kind of turned me off to sex anyhow. But I'm not

going to put safety pins in my lips! I saw a show on tatooes once that was

REALLY wild. Maybe a little one, one day, VERY little, but these tattoes

and piercings looked like something out of a Clive HellRaiser movie!

However, each to their own.

This gene isn't really a sad thing. Just one more possible step toward

death, which is inevitable. I'm sad about maybe missing bringing up my

daughter, and I hope like crazy she doesn't have that gene, but I wouldn't

change having her for the world.

Jill

[Guest guest]

Jill,

I had BETTER than a 60% chance of NOT being here and here I am. Working on

towards my 13th year!

Hugs

nne

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Re: Sorry for my big virtual mouth

At 03:25 PM 10/15/2002 -0500, you wrote:

>Hi Jill,

>You may have the gene but that doesn't necessarily mean your daughter will

>get bc. We have a daughter who is 33 and she started with mammos at age

>30. Just be sure to start your daughter at around 18 doing breast self

>exams so she gets to know her breasts and start with mammos at 30 or

>sooner if need be.

Will do, if I'm still around when Sara's 18. That's 7 years. A long time

for someone with a 40% of kicking the bucket in the next 2-5 years. I don't

know how to explain it, but I'm psychic about some things. I knew I would

get cancer in my right breast, though I thought I'd have an extra decade. I

fell in love with my husband and knew he was my soulmate two months before

I met him, when a mutual friend briefly described him. And I know I have

this gene.

It's not all bad. I may just remain breastless and wear baggy shirts. Or if

I get muscle tissue reconstruction, I will certain opt for a smaller, less

saggy boobs! No more breasts resting comfortably in my lap. You know

what's annoying, though? If a fat man took off his shirt in public and

displayed the sort of " breasts " fat men get, he'd be perfectly legal. But

if I had a double mastectomy and took off my shirt in public, displaying

only flat scars, I'd be arrested for indecent exposure. People with burns

and scars all over their faces and bodies don't get arrested for indecent

exposure. Maybe I will get piercings all over the place and keep my hair

short and spiky and stay flat and be androgenous. Being a survivor of

childhood sexual abuse has kind of turned me off to sex anyhow. But I'm not

going to put safety pins in my lips! I saw a show on tatooes once that was

REALLY wild. Maybe a little one, one day, VERY little, but these tattoes

and piercings looked like something out of a Clive HellRaiser movie!

However, each to their own.

This gene isn't really a sad thing. Just one more possible step toward

death, which is inevitable. I'm sad about maybe missing bringing up my

daughter, and I hope like crazy she doesn't have that gene, but I wouldn't

change having her for the world.

Jill

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the reminder, Georgia. I have certainly passed on my temper to

my daughter!

Jill

p.s. My daughter was one of those " miracle children " ; I had given up

waiting for my husband to be " ready " to have a child and scheduled an

appointment to be refitted for a new diaphragm because mine was getting

kind of old. That appointment turned out to be my first OB-GYN appointment

for my daughter! She's brought so much joy into the world already that

any " bad " genes I may have inadvertently given her are surely balanced out,

I hope.

At 06:33 PM 10/15/2002 -0700, you wrote:

>This of course is not your fault. Not too many people go around getting

>genetic testing before they have children.....We of course do pass on some

>things that are not quite as obvious....strenghths, weaknesses, habits,

>talents, attitudes, and priorities.....some things we have no control

>over...we let the good Lord take care of those and we pray for guidance on

>the rest....georgia

[Guest guest]

Thanks, nne. I don't think that's the first time you told me that. I

need to keep hearing it. I tend to be a pessimist so if things work out

well I will be pleasantly surprised, but it's no good to dwell in self-pity

either. I HATE when I do that. I wish Wal-Mart sold anti-self-pity drugs.

The closest I can come is those cool claw stuffed animal machines. I'm

really good at them and I usually win a lot of animals and give them away

and after a good bout of stuffed animal winning I feel a lot better, even

if my wallet is a LOT lighter.

Jill

At 08:36 PM 10/15/2002 -0500, you wrote:

>Jill,

>I had BETTER than a 60% chance of NOT being here and here I am. Working on

>towards my 13th year!

>Hugs

>nne

[Guest guest]

Jill baby this is just normal sweetie you just need to take one day at a time

and live it that way girl i was just like you thinking i wasn't going to be

around in 7yrs well girl i just hit my 7yrs and working on #8 those first 2 yrs

was the hardiest but now its better i have a CD of cancer survivors network did

a conference call on me and 3 other ladies along w/ dr from Dallas Texas

and i will copy it and send you the words of this conference see how sacred

everyone of us woman were but came out of it i have put bc behind me now and i

live for today and if it comes back on me i will do treatment again but i don't

think on it coming back i think ahead of living with my family and taking this

one step at a time i even told my daughter that when she hits 40 which is 7 1/2

yrs from now i will pay her and her husband back on the big 40 their birthdays

are 2 weeks apart she said ok mom that means you will be here than i said oh

yeah if god is willing i will be here and will get you back for the 40 birthday

party you did me for over the hill and than she did another one on me i just

turn 50 in august she bought me a card saying 60 looks better on you when i turn

40 she had a cookie made saying happy birthday to my antique mom so i will be

here to pay her back Jill i keep you in my prayers and i send you all kinds of

guardian angels to watch over you girl and just say thank you Jesus for saving

my life believe in it give it to Jesus and he will take it from you i know its

hard and i know its scary we all been through this and its almost the hardest

thing to go through well girl i love you and praying for you for a recovery i

plead the blood of Jesus through your whole body

Cheryl

Re: Sorry for my big virtual mouth

At 03:25 PM 10/15/2002 -0500, you wrote:

>Hi Jill,

>You may have the gene but that doesn't necessarily mean your daughter will

>get bc. We have a daughter who is 33 and she started with mammos at age

>30. Just be sure to start your daughter at around 18 doing breast self

>exams so she gets to know her breasts and start with mammos at 30 or

>sooner if need be.

Will do, if I'm still around when Sara's 18. That's 7 years. A long time

for someone with a 40% of kicking the bucket in the next 2-5 years. I don't

know how to explain it, but I'm psychic about some things. I knew I would

get cancer in my right breast, though I thought I'd have an extra decade. I

fell in love with my husband and knew he was my soulmate two months before

I met him, when a mutual friend briefly described him. And I know I have

this gene.

It's not all bad. I may just remain breastless and wear baggy shirts. Or if

I get muscle tissue reconstruction, I will certain opt for a smaller, less

saggy boobs! No more breasts resting comfortably in my lap. You know

what's annoying, though? If a fat man took off his shirt in public and

displayed the sort of " breasts " fat men get, he'd be perfectly legal. But

if I had a double mastectomy and took off my shirt in public, displaying

only flat scars, I'd be arrested for indecent exposure. People with burns

and scars all over their faces and bodies don't get arrested for indecent

exposure. Maybe I will get piercings all over the place and keep my hair

short and spiky and stay flat and be androgenous. Being a survivor of

childhood sexual abuse has kind of turned me off to sex anyhow. But I'm not

going to put safety pins in my lips! I saw a show on tatooes once that was

REALLY wild. Maybe a little one, one day, VERY little, but these tattoes

and piercings looked like something out of a Clive HellRaiser movie!

However, each to their own.

This gene isn't really a sad thing. Just one more possible step toward

death, which is inevitable. I'm sad about maybe missing bringing up my

daughter, and I hope like crazy she doesn't have that gene, but I wouldn't

change having her for the world.

Jill

[Guest guest]

and might I add???? another year older too....soon.

> >Hi Jill,

> >You may have the gene but that doesn't necessarily mean your

daughter will

> >get bc. We have a daughter who is 33 and she started with

mammos at age

> >30. Just be sure to start your daughter at around 18 doing

breast self

> >exams so she gets to know her breasts and start with mammos at

30 or

> >sooner if need be.

>

> Will do, if I'm still around when Sara's 18. That's 7 years. A

long time

> for someone with a 40% of kicking the bucket in the next 2-5

years. I don't

> know how to explain it, but I'm psychic about some things. I

knew I would

> get cancer in my right breast, though I thought I'd have an

extra decade. I

> fell in love with my husband and knew he was my soulmate two

months before

> I met him, when a mutual friend briefly described him. And I

know I have

> this gene.

>

> It's not all bad. I may just remain breastless and wear baggy

shirts. Or if

> I get muscle tissue reconstruction, I will certain opt for a

smaller, less

> saggy boobs! No more breasts resting comfortably in my lap.

You know

> what's annoying, though? If a fat man took off his shirt in

public and

> displayed the sort of " breasts " fat men get, he'd be perfectly

legal. But

> if I had a double mastectomy and took off my shirt in public,

displaying

> only flat scars, I'd be arrested for indecent exposure. People

with burns

> and scars all over their faces and bodies don't get arrested for

indecent

> exposure. Maybe I will get piercings all over the place and keep

my hair

> short and spiky and stay flat and be androgenous. Being a

survivor of

> childhood sexual abuse has kind of turned me off to sex anyhow.

But I'm not

> going to put safety pins in my lips! I saw a show on tatooes

once that was

> REALLY wild. Maybe a little one, one day, VERY little, but these

tattoes

> and piercings looked like something out of a Clive

HellRaiser movie!

> However, each to their own.

>

> This gene isn't really a sad thing. Just one more possible step

toward

> death, which is inevitable. I'm sad about maybe missing bringing

up my

> daughter, and I hope like crazy she doesn't have that gene, but

I wouldn't

> change having her for the world.

>

> Jill

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Your right Doris!

Hugs

nne

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Re: Sorry for my big virtual mouth

and might I add???? another year older too....soon.

> >Hi Jill,

> >You may have the gene but that doesn't necessarily mean your

daughter will

> >get bc. We have a daughter who is 33 and she started with

mammos at age

> >30. Just be sure to start your daughter at around 18 doing

breast self

> >exams so she gets to know her breasts and start with mammos at

30 or

> >sooner if need be.

>

> Will do, if I'm still around when Sara's 18. That's 7 years. A

long time

> for someone with a 40% of kicking the bucket in the next 2-5

years. I don't

> know how to explain it, but I'm psychic about some things. I

knew I would

> get cancer in my right breast, though I thought I'd have an

extra decade. I

> fell in love with my husband and knew he was my soulmate two

months before

> I met him, when a mutual friend briefly described him. And I

know I have

> this gene.

>

> It's not all bad. I may just remain breastless and wear baggy

shirts. Or if

> I get muscle tissue reconstruction, I will certain opt for a

smaller, less

> saggy boobs! No more breasts resting comfortably in my lap.

You know

> what's annoying, though? If a fat man took off his shirt in

public and

> displayed the sort of " breasts " fat men get, he'd be perfectly

legal. But

> if I had a double mastectomy and took off my shirt in public,

displaying

> only flat scars, I'd be arrested for indecent exposure. People

with burns

> and scars all over their faces and bodies don't get arrested for

indecent

> exposure. Maybe I will get piercings all over the place and keep

my hair

> short and spiky and stay flat and be androgenous. Being a

survivor of

> childhood sexual abuse has kind of turned me off to sex anyhow.

But I'm not

> going to put safety pins in my lips! I saw a show on tatooes

once that was

> REALLY wild. Maybe a little one, one day, VERY little, but these

tattoes

> and piercings looked like something out of a Clive

HellRaiser movie!

> However, each to their own.

>

> This gene isn't really a sad thing. Just one more possible step

toward

> death, which is inevitable. I'm sad about maybe missing bringing

up my

> daughter, and I hope like crazy she doesn't have that gene, but

I wouldn't

> change having her for the world.

>

> Jill

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Cheryl. For someone who doesn't think they're good at writing, take

a look at this. You said:

" but i don't think on it coming back i think ahead of living with my family

and taking this one step at a time "

Coincidentally, my husband just sent me a list of quotes from Albert

Einstein which included:

Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing

is to not stop questioning.

--Albert Einstein

I never think of the future. It comes soon enough.

--Albert Einstein "

Not much difference I can see except for a few commas and periods. You are

our resident Albert Einstein of Surviving Cancer, lady! And our job, I

think, is quite a lot harder than figuring out the origins of the universe,

and quite a lot more to the point, too! Who cares about quantum mechanics

when you wonder if you'll be alive to see your grandchildren? You just keep

writing exactly like you do, Cherly. I always feel a warmth in my heart

when I see a post from you because I know it's going to be positive,

loving, and wise.

Love,

Jill

[Guest guest]

At 02:37 AM 10/16/2002 +0000, you wrote:

>and might I add???? another year older too....soon.

>

Happy birthday in advance, nne.

>I'll be another year older soon, too. I get to see my " behavioral health

>doctor " (what my HMO calls shrinks) to get new prescriptions this coming

>November 20th, and my 47th birthday is November 21st. I consider a script

>for Valium and Paxil a nice birthday present. I couldn't manage without

>them! Those and the Oxycontin for my fibromyalgia keep me alive. Well, I

>guess the chemo and surgery and radiation fall into that category too, now.

Jill

>

> > Jill,

> > I had BETTER than a 60% chance of NOT being here and here I am.

>Working on towards my 13th year!

> > Hugs

> > nne