Guest guest Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 This can be the start to Adrenal Fatigue I have been finding a lot of us men on TRT are having this problem. You can be at stage 1 or 2 here are some links about this in this cut & paste. Phil What Stage of Adrenal Fatigue are you At. --------------------------------- I think I was at stage 4 as you can see in this link at the bottom you can go backward or forward to see the stages of Adrenal Fatigue. http://www.chronicfatigue.org/ASI%204.html Here is a link to one of the first charts on this. http://www.chronicfatigue.org/Selye%20large.html vaiisking1026 <vaiisking@...> wrote: Hey guys, My last bloodwork revealed a high cortisol level, and I went today for labs, and he wants to test cortisol again. What are the possible effects of high cortisol, and especially in relation to someone with secondary hypogonadism? God Bless, Chris --------------------------------- Access over 1 million songs - Music Unlimited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2007 Report Share Posted May 21, 2007 Wow racheal thanks...weight is my biggest issue, I have gained 25 lbs in 2 years, I was a 6 now a 10...can't stand it ! Doc said its inflammation and stress.See what's free at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2007 Report Share Posted May 21, 2007 I'm taking the one she gave me it's Phosphatidyl Serine..is that right ? I was stressed due to pain from implants, but I really am feeling better now. See what's free at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2007 Report Share Posted May 21, 2007 Thank you so much...did you have this too ? What did you do to get in under control ? See what's free at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2007 Report Share Posted May 21, 2007 Hi! My name is . I also had very high cortisol levels when I was tested. (My levels were double...Don't know what it is now???) I didn't have a problem losing weight though... weird. ALSO, I have a very important question: I have a friend that's been very sick for about 1 1/2 years now. She's been using those ionic foot pads and would like to send them to a lab for testing. Does ANYONE know WHERE she can send them??? Address??? You gals are AMAZING!!! Thanks! - On 5/21/07, GMCLADY98@... <GMCLADY98@...> wrote: Got my test back from holistic doctor she said my cortisol levels are VERY HIGH. Anyone else have this ? She says its immflamation and stress related. I am taking Womens Synbiotic Nutrients, Phosphatodyl Serine, Organically Bound Minerals, and Ferrofood, she said as long as levels are high I won't loss weight. See what's free at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2007 Report Share Posted May 21, 2007 , This is not suprising. High cortisol is a sign that the adrenals are overworking. Are you taking phosphatidly Serine, or Phosphorylated Serine? Be careful to make sure you are taking the right one. You want Phosphorylated Serine. What other stress reduction techniques has she suggested for you? Patty GMCLADY98@... wrote: Got my test back from holistic doctor she said my cortisol levels are VERY HIGH. Anyone else have this ? She says its immflamation and stress related. I am taking Womens Synbiotic Nutrients, Phosphatodyl Serine, Organically Bound Minerals, and Ferrofood, she said as long as levels are high I won't loss weight. See what's free at AOL.com. Get the free toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2007 Report Share Posted May 21, 2007 Hi , I am glad you are feeling better. That is the goal. Check out the information regarding the use of Phosphorylated Serine for high cortisol, by doing a search with "Phosphorylated Serine, high cortisol". You really want to bring that high cortisol back down to more normal levels. I'll send you some links for info, too. I know there is alot of reading, but try to catch the more important phrases of info in them. http://www.nutrition4health.org/NOHAnews/NNW02HardingAging.htm http://www.nutrition4health.org/nohanews/NNSp05Harding.htm I wish you wellness, ! PattyGMCLADY98@... wrote: I'm taking the one she gave me it's Phosphatidyl Serine..is that right ? I was stressed due to pain from implants, but I really am feeling better now. See what's free at AOL.com. Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Answers - Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2007 Report Share Posted May 21, 2007 , I did not have this, but I was worried about it, and I researched lowering cortisol several years ago, because I believed I was suffering greatly from inflammation. Actually my problem was more closely related to low cortisol, which is the other side of the same coin. High cortisol leads to adrenal fatigue, and low cortisol is evidence of adrenal fatigue. Reducing cortisol levels can be done through leading a low stress life, talking walks, eating and drinking in moderation, (no caffeine, no alcohol) getting deep sleep, getting massages, praying, meditating, or doing yoga. Do an internet search on reducing cortisol levels, and you will find pretty much the same suggestions. Guided imagery is also suggested. There are a few supplements listed in our links section under Adrenal Protocols. You would want to look at the chart that says, Elevated Cortisol " http://www.thecompounder.com/hormonesadrenalprotocol.php For ELEVATED CORTISOL LEVELS Phosphorylated Serine (Seriphos®) 10mg at 8AM and 5mg at noon Vitamin B5 (Pantothenic Acid) 500mg three times daily Vitamin B6 (Pyridoxine) 50mg twice a day Vitamin C 3000mg three times a day Vitamin E 800 I.U. per day Cayenne Capsules (OPTIONAL) 1 capsule three times a day Ginseng (OPTIONAL) 1 capsule one to three times a day Exercise 20 minutes, 3 to 4 times a week. CAUTION: Do NOT be competitive in your exercise program You will need to allow plenty of time for your adrenal glands to heal, but following a stress free life is vital. You'll get there, ! Patty > > Thank you so much...did you have this too ? What did you do to get in under > control ? > > > > ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2007 Report Share Posted May 21, 2007 . . . Do a websearch for detox foot pads . . . There are a bunch of distributors. . . Some of them offer testing . . I don't remember who offers testing though. If I remember right - silicone was not one of the things they test for though. She might be interested in ionic foot baths . . . www.ionicoasis.com can refer one to someone who does hair testing to see which heavy minerals may be present. . . But should you decide to buy a unit, go to ebay and order from there. . . You can buy one for less than half price by making an "Offer" there. Hugs, Rogene Shoham <resultsbyrachel@...> wrote: Hi! My name is . I also had very high cortisol levels when I was tested. (My levels were double...Don't know what it is now???) I didn't have a problem losing weight though... weird. ALSO, I have a very important question: I have a friend that's been very sick for about 1 1/2 years now. She's been using those ionic foot pads and would like to send them to a lab for testing. Does ANYONE know WHERE she can send them??? Address??? You gals are AMAZING!!! Thanks! - On 5/21/07, GMCLADY98aol <GMCLADY98aol> wrote: Got my test back from holistic doctor she said my cortisol levels are VERY HIGH. Anyone else have this ? She says its immflamation and stress related. I am taking Womens Synbiotic Nutrients, Phosphatodyl Serine, Organically Bound Minerals, and Ferrofood, she said as long as levels are high I won't loss weight. See what's free at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2007 Report Share Posted May 21, 2007 I have Acu-Peds, and they offer testing if you buy a month's supply. Lynda At 09:10 PM 5/21/2007, you wrote: > . . . > >Do a websearch for detox foot pads . . . There are a bunch of >distributors. . . Some of them offer testing . . I don't remember >who offers testing though. If I remember right - silicone was not >one of the things they test for though. > >She might be interested in ionic foot baths . . . ><http://www.ionicoasis.com>www.ionicoasis.com can refer one to >someone who does hair testing to see which heavy minerals may be >present. . . But should you decide to buy a unit, go to ebay and >order from there. . . You can buy one for less than half price by >making an " Offer " there. > >Hugs, > >Rogene > > > > Shoham <resultsbyrachel@...> wrote: >Hi! > >My name is . I also had very high cortisol levels when I was >tested. (My levels were double...Don't know what it is now???) I >didn't have a problem losing weight though... weird. > >ALSO, I have a very important question: > >I have a friend that's been very sick for about 1 1/2 years >now. She's been using those ionic foot pads and would like to send >them to a lab for testing. Does ANYONE know WHERE she can send >them??? Address??? > >You gals are AMAZING!!! > >Thanks! > >- > > >On 5/21/07, <mailto:GMCLADY98@...>GMCLADY98@... ><<mailto:GMCLADY98@...>GMCLADY98@...> wrote: >Got my test back from holistic doctor she said my cortisol levels >are VERY HIGH. Anyone else have this ? She says its immflamation and >stress related. I am taking Womens Synbiotic Nutrients, Phosphatodyl >Serine, Organically Bound Minerals, and Ferrofood, she said as long >as levels are high I won't loss weight. > > > > >---------- >See what's free at <http://www.aol.com/?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503>AOL.com. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 yeah. Don't get me wrong, when I FIRST started getting sick my weight jumped up 15 pounds. My stomach would not digest ANYTHING! After taking a LOT of probiotics, caprylic acid, and a few other suppliments my weight slowly crept back down, even though my coritsol levels were still high... On 5/21/07, GMCLADY98@... <GMCLADY98@...> wrote: Wow racheal thanks...weight is my biggest issue, I have gained 25 lbs in 2 years, I was a 6 now a 10...can't stand it ! Doc said its inflammation and stress. See what's free at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 That's what mine does it looks as though I'm pregnantSee what's free at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 One noninvasive approach that mothers of autistic children use is the Epsom salts bath/soak. The body absorbs magnesium and you have better sleep patterns. It is at least worth a try. I also use transdermal magnesium to up my magnesium daily intake as I don't absorb njutrients well from my food. Joan Coconut Oil From: tturner@... Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 19:56:07 +0000 Subject: High Cortisol Levels I had a brain chemical test done using saliva and urine samples. My cortisol levels are high. they seem to ramp up in late afternoon. Of course it makes it difficult to fall asleep let alone stay asleep. Any suggestions on what I can do about it? Signed Sleepless in Santa Barbara _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID27925::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en\ -US:WM_HMP:032010_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 Excellent try with the gluten avoidance, but I have been gluten and dairy free for years. I have severe leaky gut and damage from rogue yeasts from homemade cheese, NSAIDS and antibiotics prescribed for other conditions. search for " five stages of villi damage " Some of us will struggle to heal from this malady and some of us will learn to live with the consequences of medical intervention. Thanks for the thought, Joan Coconut Oil From: tturner@... Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 20:22:01 +0000 Subject: Re: High Cortisol Levels Thanks for the advice. Although I love hot baths with Epson, I shower more often then a bath. I will try the magnesium internally though. For you having problem absorbing nutrients it could mean that you are consuming to many gluten based products. Try reducing those products and take probiotics to assist in absorption of nutrients. Cheers. > > > > One noninvasive approach that mothers of autistic children use is the Epsom salts bath/soak. The body absorbs magnesium and you have better sleep patterns. > > It is at least worth a try. I also use transdermal magnesium to up my magnesium daily intake as I don't absorb njutrients well from my food. > > Joan > Coconut Oil > From: tturner@... > Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 19:56:07 +0000 > Subject: High Cortisol Levels > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I had a brain chemical test done using saliva and urine samples. My cortisol levels are high. they seem to ramp up in late afternoon. Of course it makes it difficult to fall asleep let alone stay asleep. Any suggestions on what I can do about it? > > > > Signed Sleepless in Santa Barbara > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID27925::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en\ -US:WM_HMP:032010_2 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 joan try this i stumbled by accident on it... 1 TBSP RAW honey ( local honey is great!) plus 1 TBSP Extra Virgin Coconut oil mixed into a cup of warm milk...if you dont do dairy try the coconut milk. Take right before bed. I've been sleeping for 7 hours using this have just been doingthis for several nights. I had to experiment with the amount of honey..i tried 2 tsp but that didn't keep me asleep all nitght. The honey also works in non fat hot cocoa made with dry cocoa sweetened with Stevia. I've had trouble falling asleep and then staying asleep, would wake 2 to 4 times per night. Honey and the Coconut Oil both are good to kill organisms...coconut is good for candida. .. From: Joan Dwyer <rosegardenstudio@...> Subject: RE: Re: High Cortisol Levels Coconut Oil Date: Sunday, March 28, 2010, 4:33 PM Excellent try with the gluten avoidance, but I have been gluten and dairy free for years. I have severe leaky gut and damage from rogue yeasts from homemade cheese, NSAIDS and antibiotics prescribed for other conditions. search for " five stages of villi damage " Some of us will struggle to heal from this malady and some of us will learn to live with the consequences of medical intervention. Thanks for the thought, Joan Coconut Oil From: tturner@... Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 20:22:01 +0000 Subject: Re: High Cortisol Levels Thanks for the advice. Although I love hot baths with Epson, I shower more often then a bath. I will try the magnesium internally though. For you having problem absorbing nutrients it could mean that you are consuming to many gluten based products. Try reducing those products and take probiotics to assist in absorption of nutrients. Cheers. > > > > One noninvasive approach that mothers of autistic children use is the Epsom salts bath/soak. The body absorbs magnesium and you have better sleep patterns. > > It is at least worth a try. I also use transdermal magnesium to up my magnesium daily intake as I don't absorb njutrients well from my food. > > Joan > Coconut Oil > From: tturner@... > Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 19:56:07 +0000 > Subject: High Cortisol Levels > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I had a brain chemical test done using saliva and urine samples. My cortisol levels are high. they seem to ramp up in late afternoon. Of course it makes it difficult to fall asleep let alone stay asleep. Any suggestions on what I can do about it? > > > > Signed Sleepless in Santa Barbara > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID27925::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en\ -US:WM_HMP:032010_2 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 That sounds like an excellent idea. I will try that. Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > One noninvasive approach that mothers of autistic children use is the Epsom salts bath/soak. The body absorbs magnesium and you have better sleep patterns. > > > > > > It is at least worth a try. I also use transdermal magnesium to up my magnesium daily intake as I don't absorb njutrients well from my food. > > > > > > Joan > > > Coconut Oil > > > From: tturner@ > > > Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 19:56:07 +0000 > > > Subject: High Cortisol Levels > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I had a brain chemical test done using saliva and urine samples. My cortisol levels are high. they seem to ramp up in late afternoon. Of course it makes it difficult to fall asleep let alone stay asleep. Any suggestions on what I can do about it? > > > > > > > > > > > > Signed Sleepless in Santa Barbara > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > > Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. > > > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID27925::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en\ -US:WM_HMP:032010_2 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 , here is a link to sites that discuss " honey and cortisol " ...it reduces cortisol. http://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a & rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial\ & channel=s & hl=en & source=hp & q=honey+and+cortisol+ & btnG=Google+Search That's probably why honey also aids weight loss by reducing cortisol and increasing sleep. I have to get to bed just took my honey/ milk and EVCO! I'll check back tomorrow..  Lee.  From: dynateresa <tturner@...> Subject: Re: High Cortisol Levels Coconut Oil Date: Sunday, March 28, 2010, 11:02 PM  That sounds like an excellent idea. I will try that. Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > One noninvasive approach that mothers of autistic children use is the Epsom salts bath/soak. The body absorbs magnesium and you have better sleep patterns. > > > > > > It is at least worth a try. I also use transdermal magnesium to up my magnesium daily intake as I don't absorb njutrients well from my food. > > > > > > Joan > > > coconut_oil_ open_forum > > > From: tturner@ > > > Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 19:56:07 +0000 > > > Subject: [coconut_oil_ open_forum] High Cortisol Levels > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   > > > > > > > > >    > > >     > > >     > > >     I had a brain chemical test done using saliva and urine samples. My cortisol levels are high. they seem to ramp up in late afternoon. Of course it makes it difficult to fall asleep let alone stay asleep. Any suggestions on what I can do about it? > > > > > > > > > > > > Signed Sleepless in Santa Barbara > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    > > >   > > > > > >    > > >    > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                       > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. > > > http://www.windowsl ive.com/campaign /thenewbusy? ocid=PID27925: :T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en- US:WM_HMP: 032010_2 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 > Thanks for the advice. Although I love hot baths with Epson, I shower more often then a bath. I will try the magnesium internally though. Magnesium lotion may be of interest. Dr. Shealy did some studies and found a few things ... Magnesium deficiency is widespread - it is easier to get calcium than Mg and when present together they " compete " and calcium " wins " (my words & understanding) - it takes 1 year of oral Mg taurate to replete cellular Mg - it takes about 10 IV Mg treatments to replete and it takes about 6 weeks of Mg lotion to replete. Then it must be taken/used on an ongoing basis. His research also indicated that topical (via lotion or soaking) Mg chloride provides benefits that Mg sulfate (epsom salts) does not. There are several sources of Mg lotion but it seems that Dr. Shealy's is the most affordable through either his website or Spring Valley Herbs website. Life Enthusiast website has articles and products available too. Some people buy USP grade Mg chloride crystals and make their own lotion or spray - check out Earth Clinic for more info on how to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 You might want to look up the group: NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS They deal well w/ high & low cortisol levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 Thanks so much Lee, I really appreciate detailed post. Going to start doing the honey treatment. Atwood http://www.traditionalcook.com From: Lee <artchick48@...> Subject: Re: Re: High Cortisol Levels Coconut Oil Date: Monday, March 29, 2010, 6:24 PM Hi , I haven't read those i would like to tho.... this is a quote from one of the links, the person seems knowlegeable and references another link. Whenever i research a new topic i open a new doc in my word processor program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 No the adrenal grp,is low cortisol,they don't even like u to post high cortisol,I would go to thyroidsupport,instead. Also ps is for phoadyle serine,sp? Sorry can't spell it! Deb --aliano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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