Guest guest Posted December 27, 1999 Report Share Posted December 27, 1999 > This is how old she is as well.......did it hurt? did he do ok? In doing research to give you a link for more info, I find that the test is more accurately called the skin prick test. I also had one at around the same time so I can comment on more than observed information. A drop of each suspension containing the suspected alergy causing items was placed on the back, in kind of a grid-like arrangement. A small needle was drawn through the fluid to break the surface of the skin. Then they waited for 10-15 minutes to see if there was a skin reaction (hive) in each of the areas. JD didn't care for the needle part, or the waiting part (he has to lay still so the drops don't move), but it didn't really hurt - more of a minor discomfort. > ps. does insurance cover it? It should. In our case, the military peds our son saw told me he was too young to be tested. My thinking was, " If he's old enough to have a reaction to something, he's old enough to be tested to see if he reacts to that something. " So we paid out of pocket for a civilian allergist to test JD. Here is a link that goes into a lot more detail about this test: http://zingsolutions.com/ALLSA/appen9.htm Kay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 1999 Report Share Posted December 27, 1999 In a message dated 12/27/99 2:10:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, SDunnstern@... writes: << I have a great solution for the coat situation and you may think I am crazy. Pick your battles, I would have said to her, It's cold outside and it's your choice but I don't think you are making a good choice and then walk out and don't let her wear her coat. This worked really well with . It only took her one time of being cold to always make the right choice. Sheri >> Really???? See I am never sure of when is the right time to just give in and when I should hold firm.......let her know I MEAN it. Maybe I will give that try next time Thanks......She is VERY independent and challenging......but also very bright and caring.....I just have to keep reminding myself that these are all good traits for when she is OLDER! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 1999 Report Share Posted December 27, 1999 In a message dated 12/27/99 2:19:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, keedy@... writes: << Anyway, I just wanted to throw in my 2 cents worth about how sometimes obsessive-compulsive behaviors can be way beyond acceptable. >> just out of curiousity.......are there any activities I can do to sort of " test " for this???? To get an idea of her level or comfort with change or whatever???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 1999 Report Share Posted December 27, 1999 " Floyd and Tish Lavrenz " commented about kids lining up toys and putting things away and closing cabinet doors: > > I sure wish my kids were inflicted with that one. That's true! On the surface it might seem like a very positive thing. We also have a daughter who does this type of activity. There was a time though when it got really beyond okay. For example, everything had to be the same and if my husband was gone to a conference for a few days, she would not go to bed until he was back and the typical routine was followed. This could result in a very tired and unhappy child. OR, it I drove the wrong way to the grocery store because of a detour she would have a horrible tantrum. Finally these behaviors really started to impede her learning. We determined she had really significant obsessive compulsive behaviors and discussed it with a neurologist and psychologist who recommended a medication. For her it was the right approach. From the day she started the medicine she has not had another tantrum related to change in schedule. When she started the medicine, she was 10 years old and none of us had had a full night's sleep in more than 5 years. In fact sometimes she was up four times in the night. She still organizes things and closes cupboards but she is much more able to use her energy to pay attention and learn now. She does not like to stop an activity and change to another so sometimes we have to wait some time to move to the next thing. The medicine she took affects her serotonin levels and I believe she has a difficulty regulating the neurotransmitters. For her it was the right strategy, but it is not always the right approach. WE would like her to be weaned from the medicine soon. I think that when the behaviors affect life in a negative way it is wise to look into strategies to improve the situation. Our daughter also has benefitted from sensory-integration therapy, vestibular therapy, vision therapy and language therapy. All of these techniques have helped her overcome difficulties in communication but we still struggle with these issues daily. Anyway, I just wanted to throw in my 2 cents worth about how sometimes obsessive-compulsive behaviors can be way beyond acceptable. keedy@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 1999 Report Share Posted December 27, 1999 Okay - I'm dropping in - hope its okay. Nic lines up his toys - and does not like it if you mess them up. And puts things in their places as well (including closing all the drawers and cabinets in the kitchen). Donna Re: . From: Freshstrt2000@... In a message dated 12/27/99 11:46:22 AM Eastern Standard Time, SDunnstern@... writes: << I used to worry about the lining up of her toys but for some reason it seems to help her feel in control and I limit it. >> Crystal will line up toys as well.......and also likes to put stuff back in the " proper " spot.......is this a good thing????? All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright restrictions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 1999 Report Share Posted December 27, 1999 He will be 2 in Jan. (less than 2 weeks!!! - yet another stress - a birthday party to plan!) Donna Re: . From: Freshstrt2000@... In a message dated 12/27/99 1:40:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, dbozak@... writes: << Okay - I'm dropping in - hope its okay. Nic lines up his toys - and does not like it if you mess them up. And puts things in their places as well (including closing all the drawers and cabinets in the kitchen). Donna -----Original Message----- >> Same here........and how old is he again????? All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright restrictions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 1999 Report Share Posted December 27, 1999 I sure wish my kids were inflicted with that one. ---------- > > To: 'Listen-Uponelist' > Subject: RE: . > Date: Monday, December 27, 1999 12:39 PM > > > > Okay - I'm dropping in - hope its okay. Nic lines up his toys - and does > not like it if you mess them up. And puts things in their places as well > (including closing all the drawers and cabinets in the kitchen). > Donna > > Re: . > > > From: Freshstrt2000@... > > In a message dated 12/27/99 11:46:22 AM Eastern Standard Time, > SDunnstern@... writes: > > << I used to worry about the lining up of her toys but for some reason it > seems > to help her feel in control and I limit it. >> > > Crystal will line up toys as well.......and also likes to put stuff back in > the " proper " spot.......is this a good thing????? > > > > All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is > the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright > restrictions. > > > All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright restrictions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 1999 Report Share Posted December 27, 1999 Thank-you very much!!! He's had a rough 2 yrs. Donna Re: . From: Freshstrt2000@... In a message dated 12/27/99 1:42:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, dbozak@... writes: << He will be 2 in Jan. (less than 2 weeks!!! - yet another stress - a birthday party to plan!) Donna >> Well a HAPPY BIRTHDAY to him!!! All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright restrictions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 1999 Report Share Posted December 27, 1999 Freshstrt2000@... wrote: > just out of curiousity.......are there any activities I can do to sort of > " test " for this???? To get an idea of her level or comfort with change or > whatever???? > > , Regarding testing, I would think you would really know already if there were a problem with change that was significant. For our daughter, the communication problems made it much worse. But there also is a problem with neurotransmitters and for us it was really obvious that we needed to find a solution as she needed some sleep and we needed to find a way for her to be able to take in information effectively. All of the behaviors went on way beyond the toddler years and got worse. Keedy Portland, OR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 1999 Report Share Posted December 27, 1999 My daughter went through a long period where we would have these same kinds of tantrums, with seemingly nothing to set them off. Once, when it was time to leave the doctor's office, she decided she didn't want to and refused, throwing herself on the floor, kicking and screaming. I had the baby with me, so was in a tough spot: couldn't really pick up both of them at once, couldn't leave her and take the baby to the car, couldn't leave the baby for her. I thought I was going to kill her! And very embarrassing for me also. I finally put together a behavior chart (she was 3 at the time), where she got a check for every " good " behavior (and I defined those for her, and pointed them out when she did them), and a minus for inappropriate behavior (ditto). The hard part was finding something she cared enough about. AT the time, she had a litany of toys/books/animals she HAD to take to bed with her, so I told her for every check she got, she could choose one item to take to bed, and for every minus one got taken away. It actually had a dual effect: she learned pretty quickly that inappropriate behavior could mean she got to take NOTHING to bed, so her behavior improved, but now she doesn't need to take anything but her blanket to bed, so we got rid of the habit. Of course, now I need to find something ELSE she cares about for future behavior modification! I do also think it's partly developmental/partly personality. No matter, it's still a challenge and exhausting. Good luck -- Stefanie >Well Crystal is quite LOUD.....she had " temper tantrums " at about age 15 >months -20 months.......but nothing severe......and all seemed like age >appropriate.......but lately her tantrums have begun again......only a bit >more severe.....is this normal for a 39 month old???? She is bigger and >stronger now......so that is scary. The other day ( couple weeks ago) I >took her down to Childrens for therapy.....she did fine etc.....well when we >were leaving I had to go to the restroom.....so we went.....afterwards I was >washing my hands and she wanted to wash hers....fine. Well she felt her coat >was getting in the way so she took it off.....BIG MISTAKE. She would not put >it back on.....and its COLD here. So I had to physically hold her down to >get her coat on......and since I am fairly petite....and she is a tough >cookie.....it was a struggle! She does not attempt to bite me....ever.....or >hit me or something but she thrashes around.....tries to wiggle out of my >grasp and SCREAMS like I am killing her. We were bent down.....she ended >up kicking off the floor and I was behind her.....her head flew back and >smacked my lip....I had a little bruise for a while. Stuff like that.....I >am not sure if its her personality.....her age.....or the communication >factor??? I get soooooo embarrassed. And I am concerned for her. They are >not like everyday or anything but have increased in the recent month. She >also is stuffed up alot......so maybe the allergies thing?? Her therapist >asked me to look into allergies..... > >Oh ....but her teacher at school says she is never like that for them?????? >go figure. > >Thanks.... > > >>All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post >is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to >copyright restrictions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 1999 Report Share Posted December 27, 1999 My daughter also likes to put things in their " proper " place, particularly before bed. I attribute some of this to being firstborn, and am happy the things get put away. However, she is only this neat in her bedroom, the playroom is a disaster! Stefanie >From: Freshstrt2000@... > >In a message dated 12/27/99 11:46:22 AM Eastern Standard Time, >SDunnstern@... writes: > ><< I used to worry about the lining up of her toys but for some reason it >seems > to help her feel in control and I limit it. >> > >Crystal will line up toys as well.......and also likes to put stuff back in >the " proper " spot.......is this a good thing????? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 1999 Report Share Posted December 28, 1999 Let me know of the ABR results!!!(I am sure the entire list is interested in the results!) Debbie ----Original Message Follows---- Reply-To: Listen-Uponelist To: " 'Listen-Uponelist' " <Listen-Uponelist> Subject: RE: . Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 06:33:28 -0600 Thanks Deb!! By the way, we are going in for our first ABR tomorrow. However, I think he is hearing better since he had the tubes placed. He is starting speech therapy in Jan. The therapist said she will be teaching him sign and PECS and go with whichever he picks up. So, far he is more responsive to sign. Anytime my husband and I sign a word to him - he always watches our hands. He much more attentive to that than to what we say. As far as the birthday - the hard part is deciding which of our friends to invite - we aren't getting alot of support regarding from our usual group of friends. But we plan on a fun party none-the-less (is that even a word!) Donna RE: . Happy Birthday to NIC!!! I am sure it will be fun!!!! From, Deb Rabideau 's Mom All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright restrictions. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright restrictions. << text3.html >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 1999 Report Share Posted December 29, 1999 Did they try to give him a sedative??? I know when had his 2 abr's he was sedated. Debbie 's Mom ----Original Message Follows---- Reply-To: Listen-Uponelist To: " 'Listen-Uponelist' " <Listen-Uponelist> Subject: RE: . Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 14:05:54 -0600 Well - today was Nic's ABR. And it did not happen. There was no way he was gonna sleep and cooperate. So, we are going to reschedule for sometime in January. What a nightmare!!! One test - and NO WAY!!! RE: . Happy Birthday to NIC!!! I am sure it will be fun!!!! From, Deb Rabideau 's Mom All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright restrictions. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright restrictions. << text3.html >> All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright restrictions. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright restrictions. << text3.html >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 1999 Report Share Posted December 29, 1999 Well - today was Nic's ABR. And it did not happen. There was no way he was gonna sleep and cooperate. So, we are going to reschedule for sometime in January. What a nightmare!!! One test - and NO WAY!!! RE: . Happy Birthday to NIC!!! I am sure it will be fun!!!! From, Deb Rabideau 's Mom All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright restrictions. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright restrictions. << text3.html >> All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright restrictions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 1999 Report Share Posted December 29, 1999 Oh boy, reminds me of 's ABR. The stuff that was supposed to put him to sleep seemed to make him hyper! He ended up taking a double dose of the stuff, which put him to sleep barely long enough to get the test done. But boy, was he groggy the rest of the day! Good luck with your next attempt! I have thought since our experience that if we gave him the knockout drops and then drove him around for a while he might have slept sooner, but who knows? Dixie > > >Well - today was Nic's ABR. And it did not happen. There was no way he was >gonna sleep and cooperate. So, we are going to reschedule for sometime in >January. >What a nightmare!!! >One test - and NO WAY!!! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 1999 Report Share Posted December 29, 1999 was the same, A double dose a she was standing onto of the bed singing C is for Cookie, Cookie, Cookie. Next time they gave her Versed. We have been through it 4 times. Sheri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 1999 Report Share Posted December 29, 1999 Nic got the double dose also. He was so groggy - could barely walk. But all he wanted to do was play!!! It was the friendliest he has ever been at the audiologists!!!!! Re: . Oh boy, reminds me of 's ABR. The stuff that was supposed to put him to sleep seemed to make him hyper! He ended up taking a double dose of the stuff, which put him to sleep barely long enough to get the test done. But boy, was he groggy the rest of the day! Good luck with your next attempt! I have thought since our experience that if we gave him the knockout drops and then drove him around for a while he might have slept sooner, but who knows? Dixie > > >Well - today was Nic's ABR. And it did not happen. There was no way he was >gonna sleep and cooperate. So, we are going to reschedule for sometime in >January. >What a nightmare!!! >One test - and NO WAY!!! > All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright restrictions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 1999 Report Share Posted December 29, 1999 In a message dated 12/29/99 3:09:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, dbozak@... writes: > Well - today was Nic's ABR. And it did not happen. There was no way he was > gonna sleep and cooperate. So, we are going to reschedule for sometime in > January. > What a nightmare!!! > One test - and NO WAY!!! > Donna, try not to worry, this is a normal reaction with some kids! We nearly had that reaction with my son, but he finally went out! Good luck for January, Orla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 1999 Report Share Posted December 29, 1999 Hey Donna, This is Robin, mother of Hannah (2yrs old, n24). I can sympathize with you!!!! Hannah's first two ABRs were nightmares. Same thing, would not go to sleep. Hang in there, it will happen.......... --- " Bozak, Donna " wrote: > Well - today was Nic's ABR. And it did not happen. > There was no way he was > gonna sleep and cooperate. So, we are going to > reschedule for sometime in > January. > What a nightmare!!! > One test - and NO WAY!!! > > > RE: . > > > > > Happy Birthday to NIC!!! > I am sure it will be fun!!!! > > From, > Deb Rabideau > 's Mom > > All messages posted to this list are private and > confidential. Each post is > the intellectual property of the author and > therefore subject to copyright > restrictions. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > All messages posted to this list are private and > confidential. Each post is > > the intellectual property of the author and > therefore subject to copyright > restrictions. > << text3.html >> > > All messages posted to this list are private and > confidential. Each post is > the intellectual property of the author and > therefore subject to copyright > restrictions. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > All messages posted to this list are private and > confidential. Each post is the intellectual > property of the author and therefore subject to > copyright restrictions. > <HR> <html> > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 1999 Report Share Posted December 30, 1999 Thanks Robin! I just am so disappointed. Now we just have more waiting to do. I hope to get it rescheduled by the 2nd week of Jan. I've been talking with the MD's I work with (I work in a pedi burn hospital) and have decided what medication I'm gonna TELL them to use. Why is it that medical people NEVER seem to listen to parents??? (And that statement was made by me - a RN!!!) Donna RE: . > > > > > Happy Birthday to NIC!!! > I am sure it will be fun!!!! > > From, > Deb Rabideau > 's Mom > > All messages posted to this list are private and > confidential. Each post is > the intellectual property of the author and > therefore subject to copyright > restrictions. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > All messages posted to this list are private and > confidential. Each post is > > the intellectual property of the author and > therefore subject to copyright > restrictions. > << text3.html >> > > All messages posted to this list are private and > confidential. Each post is > the intellectual property of the author and > therefore subject to copyright > restrictions. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > All messages posted to this list are private and > confidential. Each post is the intellectual > property of the author and therefore subject to > copyright restrictions. > <HR> <html> > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 1999 Report Share Posted December 30, 1999 Shari It was a double dose of versed that Nic got. He was a happy boy!!! And a sleepy one - but wasn't gonna sleep!!! He found the holes in the sound booth walls verrrrrry interesting! Donna Re: . From: SDunnstern@... was the same, A double dose a she was standing onto of the bed singing C is for Cookie, Cookie, Cookie. Next time they gave her Versed. We have been through it 4 times. Sheri All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright restrictions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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