Guest guest Posted May 21, 2007 Report Share Posted May 21, 2007 Gretchen, honey, I wrote that little note. I am so sorry that you are not getting better. It makes me so angry when the doctors do not listen, they should be doing research like we have done. They are just too busy getting rich. Please do not give up, it takes time to get the poison our of your system. Sending love and support............Lea ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~` Re: get a load of this................ oh i didnt write that On 5/21/07, Scarlett6aol <Scarlett6aol> wrote: In a message dated 5/21/07 12:20:59 PM, devanscompusmart (DOT) ab.ca writes: They are all sick and should be sent somewhere that is very hot....Hell would be good.~~~~~~~~~~That is hilarious Gretchen. You should be commended for coming up with that one.Cathie**************************************See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- gretchen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2007 Report Share Posted May 21, 2007 yes im scared since i didnt get capsules removed right the 1st timethats why im still sick.dr kolb said she got it all out but why am i not getting better 5 months laterOn 5/21/07, Lea <devans@...> wrote: Gretchen, honey, I wrote that little note. I am so sorry that you are not getting better. It makes me so angry when the doctors do not listen, they should be doing research like we have done. They are just too busy getting rich. Please do not give up, it takes time to get the poison our of your system. Sending love and support............Lea ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~` Re: get a load of this................ oh i didnt write that On 5/21/07, Scarlett6@... < Scarlett6@...> wrote: In a message dated 5/21/07 12:20:59 PM, devanscompusmart (DOT) ab.ca writes: They are all sick and should be sent somewhere that is very hot....Hell would be good.~~~~~~~~~~That is hilarious Gretchen. You should be commended for coming up with that one.Cathie**************************************See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- gretchen -- gretchen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2007 Report Share Posted May 21, 2007 Gretchen, I feel so bad that you aren't getting any better. It seems that your life is revolving around this illness. I know it is difficult when you are sick but having a positive attitude has helped me. I am not always the happiest person when I am sick but I am determined to get better and I know that having a positive attitude is getting me there faster. I would put my faith in the fact that Dr. Kolb is a wonderful doctor and wouldn't lie to you. Lynn > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/21/07 12:20:59 PM, devans@...<devans@...>writes: > > > > > > > > > They are all sick and should be sent somewhere that is very hot....Hell > > > would be good. > > > ~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > That is hilarious Gretchen. You should be commended for coming up with > > > that one. > > > Cathie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************** > > > See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > gretchen > > > > > > [image: Upgrade Your Email - Click here!] <http://promos.hotbar.com/promos/promodll.dll? RunPromo & El= & SG= & RAND=80021 & partner=hbtools> > > > > > > > > > > -- > gretchen > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 Darling Gretchen: Many years ago, I was a bit like you, but then I became very angry. That was good for me. I started doing research, and that was the answer for me. My life was beginning to make sense, because I was fighting back. I still have the capsule in my right breast, and they removed my left breast. My breasts are not a pretty sight, but I do not care. The most important thing is to have some quality of life, and that is what I am fighting for. Honey, please do not do everything that the other ladies are doing. You must learn to make choices for yourself. Your doctor cleaned you out the best that she could, and it is not possilbe to get every little bit of the garbage that was implanted into your body. What you need is a good family doctor, because a plastic surgeon does not have time to give you the care that you need. The wonderful women in this group give us choices. We are all so very different that we must find a balance in what is best for each one of us. Please, try to forget about the capsules and think about your whole body. I know that this might not be easy, but you must move on. We will give you love and support, but you must take charge of your life. We will all be here to give you support...love you....Lea ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`` Re: get a load of this................ oh i didnt write that On 5/21/07, Scarlett6aol < Scarlett6aol> wrote: In a message dated 5/21/07 12:20:59 PM, devanscompusmart (DOT) ab.ca writes: They are all sick and should be sent somewhere that is very hot....Hell would be good.~~~~~~~~~~That is hilarious Gretchen. You should be commended for coming up with that one.Cathie**************************************See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- gretchen -- gretchen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 Gretchen, You must stop dwelling on that first explant surgery. Dr. Kolb understands the importance of having the capsules removed, and the important thing is that they are out NOW. I know it's been 5 months. I have had many illnesses in my lifetime that have lasted for years, including implant illness which I'm still struggling with - one and a half years later - but what keeps me going is that all of the illnesses I've had have eventually gotten better in their own time, and what they have in common is that I continued to try different things until I found the right combination. That's why I have hope that in time my body will get strong enough to where I no longer have any (or at least very few) implant related issues. Keep searching, you are not the first person to be sick 5 months after explant, and unfortunately you won't be the last. I'm not discounting your feelings - you have every right to be angry and sad - but you need to understand that it takes some people a long time to get better. Sis > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/21/07 12:20:59 PM, devans@...<devans@...>writes: > > > > > > > > > They are all sick and should be sent somewhere that is very hot....Hell > > > would be good. > > > ~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > That is hilarious Gretchen. You should be commended for coming up with > > > that one. > > > Cathie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************** > > > See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > gretchen > > > > > > [image: Upgrade Your Email - Click here!] <http://promos.hotbar.com/promos/promodll.dll? RunPromo & El= & SG= & RAND=80021 & partner=hbtools> > > > > > > > > > > -- > gretchen > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 thanks guys. i just was so desperate. i just cant stop wondering if he did it right would i be better by now or at least on my way instead of getting worse. wouldnt you be so mad at yourself for not making him know what you knew was right because you were so desperate? > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/21/07 12:20:59 PM, > devans@<devans@>writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > They are all sick and should be sent somewhere that is very > hot....Hell > > > > would be good. > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > > That is hilarious Gretchen. You should be commended for coming > up with > > > > that one. > > > > Cathie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************** > > > > See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > gretchen > > > > > > > > > [image: Upgrade Your Email - Click here!] > <http://promos.hotbar.com/promos/promodll.dll? > RunPromo & El= & SG= & RAND=80021 & partner=hbtools> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > gretchen > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 Gretchen, You need to get over this being mad at yourself and get on with working to get better. No, I was not mad at myself, I was angry with the manufacturers and the doctors who lied to me. And I organized and worked to get better and help others. I did not sit around and feel sorry for myself. I just got busy. And I got better. Please get your mind on something besides how bad you feel. Get it on getting better and what you can do to empower yourself. You are making yourself worse by your mental attitude. Lynda At 10:44 PM 5/23/2007, you wrote: >thanks guys. i just was so desperate. i just cant stop wondering if he >did it right would i be better by now or at least on my way instead of >getting worse. wouldnt you be so mad at yourself for not making him >know what you knew was right because you were so desperate? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/21/07 12:20:59 PM, > > devans@<devans@>writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They are all sick and should be sent somewhere that is very > > hot....Hell > > > > > would be good. > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > > > > That is hilarious Gretchen. You should be commended for coming > > up with > > > > > that one. > > > > > Cathie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************** > > > > > See what's free at <http://www.aol.com.>http://www.aol.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > gretchen > > > > > > > > > > > > [image: Upgrade Your Email - Click here!] > > > <<http://promos.hotbar.com/promos/promodll.dll?>http://promos.hotbar.com/promos/\ promodll.dll? > > RunPromo & El= & SG= & RAND=80021 & partner=hbtools> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > gretchen > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 ok. do you know of any women who didnt have proper removalthen did later and got better later?On 5/23/07, Lynda < coss@...> wrote: Gretchen, You need to get over this being mad at yourself and get on with working to get better. No, I was not mad at myself, I was angry with the manufacturers and the doctors who lied to me. And I organized and worked to get better and help others. I did not sit around and feel sorry for myself. I just got busy. And I got better. Please get your mind on something besides how bad you feel. Get it on getting better and what you can do to empower yourself. You are making yourself worse by your mental attitude. Lynda At 10:44 PM 5/23/2007, you wrote: >thanks guys. i just was so desperate. i just cant stop wondering if he >did it right would i be better by now or at least on my way instead of >getting worse. wouldnt you be so mad at yourself for not making him >know what you knew was right because you were so desperate? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/21/07 12:20:59 PM, > > devans@<devans@>writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They are all sick and should be sent somewhere that is very > > hot....Hell > > > > > would be good. > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > > > > That is hilarious Gretchen. You should be commended for coming > > up with > > > > > that one. > > > > > Cathie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************** > > > > > See what's free at <http://www.aol.com.> http://www.aol.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > gretchen > > > > > > > > > > > > [image: Upgrade Your Email - Click here!] > > > <<http://promos.hotbar.com/promos/promodll.dll?> http://promos.hotbar.com/promos/promodll.dll? > > RunPromo & El= & SG= & RAND=80021 & partner=hbtools> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > gretchen > > > > > > > -- gretchen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 Gretchen, You are obsessing. Yes, I had to go back less than a year later and have the scar tissue removed. And I got better. Focus on something besides illness. You will NOT get better if you keep thinking this way. Lynda At 11:09 PM 5/23/2007, you wrote: >ok. do you know of any women who didnt have proper removal >then did later and got better later? > >On 5/23/07, Lynda <<mailto:coss@...> coss@...> wrote: > >Gretchen, > >You need to get over this being mad at yourself and get on with >working to get better. > >No, I was not mad at myself, I was angry with the manufacturers and >the doctors who lied to me. > >And I organized and worked to get better and help others. > >I did not sit around and feel sorry for myself. I just got >busy. And I got better. > >Please get your mind on something besides how bad you feel. Get it >on getting better and what you can do to empower yourself. You are >making yourself worse by your mental attitude. > >Lynda > >At 10:44 PM 5/23/2007, you wrote: > > >thanks guys. i just was so desperate. i just cant stop wondering if he > >did it right would i be better by now or at least on my way instead of > >getting worse. wouldnt you be so mad at yourself for not making him > >know what you knew was right because you were so desperate? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/21/07 12:20:59 PM, > > > devans@<devans@>writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They are all sick and should be sent somewhere that is very > > > hot....Hell > > > > > > would be good. > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > > > > > > That is hilarious Gretchen. You should be commended for coming > > > up with > > > > > > that one. > > > > > > Cathie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************** > > > > > > See what's free at > <<http://www.aol.com.>http://www.aol.com.> http://www.aol.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > gretchen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [image: Upgrade Your Email - Click here!] > > > > > > <<<http://promos.hotbar.com/promos/promodll.dll?>http://promos.hotbar.com/promos\ /promodll.dll?> > http://promos.hotbar.com/promos/promodll.dll? > > > RunPromo & El= & SG= & RAND=80021 & partner=hbtools> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > gretchen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- >gretchen > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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