Guest guest Posted December 3, 1999 Report Share Posted December 3, 1999 In a message dated 12/3/99 9:48:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, rodgers@... writes: > > > One thing that I would like to add (before I bow out!) to the description of > SID is the inpact on speech. > > The development of speech relies on good sensory integration at the highest > level. What that means is that a child must have a reasonably regulated and > modulated sensory system to aquire speech. This is very common knowledge in > the " SID arena " of parents -- but interestingly, seems relatively unknown > among parents of d/hoh children. I find this rather incredible. The > reasons why sensory integration is so important in speech is not complex -- > the book " Sensory Integration and the Child " explains it quite nicely. > Really a " must-read " for any parent of a d/hoh child -- particularly if > speech is important. > > Dana > rodgers@... > Dana, yes, SI is important for speech, for my son also, but it is even more important for him to have his sensory issues addressed so that he can SIGN!! Orla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 1999 Report Share Posted December 3, 1999 In a message dated 12/3/1999 9:48:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, rodgers@... writes: << What that means is that a child must have a reasonably regulated and modulated sensory system to aquire speech. >> Dana, we had never heard this before until my son and his deaf preschool class had their psych/behavior evals. Two of the other children tested positive for it. I found it interesting because one child was having a great difficulty doing things like singing the " wheels on the bus " song and doing the motions. He could do one or the other but not both. He also had a great deal of trouble with listening and watching the cues together. The cues were dropped and he improved alot after that. With the SID therapy his speech is improving also. He has all those quirky tags in clothes things, etc too. My son was diagnosed with ODD but not SID, just stubborn. Elaine B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 1999 Report Share Posted December 3, 1999 Absolutely! My daughter, 's SID was so severe as recent as 6 months ago, she had very limited use of her arms (her entire body for that matter). She could not point or even lift her arm in the direction of something she wanted. For praxis (motor planning), she was below the 1 percentile for her age group. The first time she was able to sign to us was such an incredible experience for all of us. For my daughter, the ability to sign was completely empowering and gave her much confidence -- she could do it -- she *got it* and she knew it! Dana rodgers@... Re: SID and speech >From: OMac353@... >Dana, yes, SI is important for speech, for my son also, but it is even more >important for him to have his sensory issues addressed so that he can SIGN!! > >Orla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 1999 Report Share Posted December 4, 1999 If I can jump in here, since I feel like I started all this...the amazing thing to me about the SID and speech and sign delay is how few educators know anything about it... is the first deaf child in her preschool to have OT services requested for her and her teacher has been teaching dhoh kids for over 9 years....When we were trying to decide a preschool placement for her, and I was talking to the teacher and audie that work with the program they basically thought the SID was just another in the alphabet soup of labels being handed out to kids. Fortunately, they have to accommodate because it's in her IEP. When we were concerned about her speech and sign delay last year and began looking in to SID and therapy for her the audie we were working with told us that we must not be signing enough to at home or else she would be acquiring more language. I am trying to educate the educators but it is hard! Jeane Re: SID and speech From: Beat4girl@... In a message dated 12/3/1999 9:48:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, rodgers@... writes: << What that means is that a child must have a reasonably regulated and modulated sensory system to aquire speech. >> Dana, we had never heard this before until my son and his deaf preschool class had their psych/behavior evals. Two of the other children tested positive for it. I found it interesting because one child was having a great difficulty doing things like singing the " wheels on the bus " song and doing the motions. He could do one or the other but not both. He also had a great deal of trouble with listening and watching the cues together. The cues were dropped and he improved alot after that. With the SID therapy his speech is improving also. He has all those quirky tags in clothes things, etc too. My son was diagnosed with ODD but not SID, just stubborn. Elaine B All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright restrictions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 1999 Report Share Posted December 4, 1999 You wrote: My son was diagnosed with ODD but not SID, just stubborn. Elaine B WHat is ODD? And can the listmate who posted a website on SID please post it again, I must have deleted it. Thanks, Debbie ------------------------------------------------------------------------ All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright restrictions. << text3.html >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 1999 Report Share Posted December 4, 1999 In a message dated 12/4/1999 9:18:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, debtar85@... writes: << WHat is ODD? >> Oppositional Defiant Disorder....if you want information go here: http://www.klis.com/chandler/pamphlet/oddcd/content.htm Elaine B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2000 Report Share Posted January 20, 2000 , What are prism lenses? Sheri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2000 Report Share Posted January 20, 2000 I don't know how I missed this particular post back in December, but I just read it tonight as I was reading old messages. Orla mentions how important Sensori-integration is in order for her son to sign. I couldn't agree more. Our daughter has significant difficulty processing moving visual information. She learned to read before she learned to sign and I believe it is because she could manipulate the book to the position where she could process it well. And, until about one year ago she had to look at us from a peripheral standpoint rather than looking at us straight on. This improved dramatically when she got prism lenses and also after vision therapy. Right now it is thought that further SI will help her processing and it is most likely that her vestibular problems contribute to the problems of using her eyes for tracking and focusing and binocularity. Dr. Vivienne Ratner has written about a visual perceptual learning disability that can affect some children. The result for a deaf child can be very serious if it affects their language acquisition. I read of this in an article she wrote and also in a book she co-authored with entitled: Understanding Language Disorders: the Impact On Learning It is published by Thinking Publications and the ISBN is: 0-930599-90-X Keedy Portland, OR Orla wrote (back in December) SI is important for speech, for my son also, but it is even more > important for him to have his sensory issues addressed so that he can SIGN!! > > Orla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2000 Report Share Posted January 20, 2000 Sheri, The prism lenses are regular eyeglasses that have prisms inside the lens. I can not see the prisms and the glasses look otherwise typical. The effect of the lenses is to allow my daughter's eyes to work together where they don't naturally do that yet without the lenses. A behavioral optometrist prescribed the lenses for her. My daughter has astigmatism. I have heard of these glasses being prescribed for a variety of conditions including when one eye is weaker than the other. Keedy Portland, OR SDunnstern@... wrote: > > From: SDunnstern@... > > , > What are prism lenses? > Sheri > > --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2000 Report Share Posted January 21, 2000 , I have astigmatism and I have never heard of prism lenses. Do you get them from any optomologist? How did you know your daughter needed them? What were the symptoms? I have thought about getting 's eyes checked but we just haven't gotten around to it yet. Sorry for all the questions but I have never heard of anything like this. Sheri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2000 Report Share Posted January 25, 2000 HI Sheri, My daughter got the prism lenses from the Behavioral Optometrist. These doctors are also sometimes referred to as Developmental Optometrists. The Behavioral Optometrist is concerned with the function of the eye in ways that most Opthalmologists are not. In other words, the acuity of the eyes could be rather good but there could be a lack of binocularity, lack of tracking and lack of ability to focus at different distances. Any of these conditions could impact learning in general. In the case of a child relying on sign language to communicate they could impact language acquisition significantly. If you would like a referral to a behavioral optometrist in your area, I think my daughter's office would give me some names of Optometrists with this particular specialty. Just let me know if you would like me to ask. :-) Keedy Portland, OR SDunnstern@... wrote: > > From: SDunnstern@... > > , > I have astigmatism and I have never heard of prism lenses. Do you get > them from any optomologist? How did you know your daughter needed them? > What were the symptoms? I have thought about getting 's eyes checked > but we just haven't gotten around to it yet. > Sorry for all the questions but I have never heard of anything like this. > Sheri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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