Guest guest Posted May 27, 2007 Report Share Posted May 27, 2007 Lea, The bugs are fungi or bacterial/viral in nature. And, they are always in the environment and in our bodies, the warm saline just gets them a great incubator. And our bodies do fight this stuff if we are not immune-suppressed or have auto-immune illness. Lynda At 08:55 AM 5/27/2007, you wrote: >Dearest Nan: > >Honey, are you sure that you had saline, or did >you have the Double-Lumen? How could they find >silicone in your lymph nodes when you had >saline? This must be frustrating for you. When I >spoke to Dr. Blais a few weeks ago, he told me >that bugs would come out of the saline implants, >and that it is important to have them removed >soon. Could this really happen, and where would >the bugs go! With silicone, the bugs would >surely die, I just do not understand all this. >How do we kill the bugs, if they do get into our bodies via the implants??? > >Health Canada and the FDA have never mentioned >anything about bugs growing in the saline >implants! Why would any women have parisites, >this is crazy. What should we do about all this? >There must be someone who could help to prove >that they are trying to kill many thousands of >people with their unsafe devices. > >Nan, we have to find a way to fight back, >because this must stop. My wish is that you get >better, now that you have had this garbage removed. > >Sending love to you....Lea >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~` > > Re: To weak to keep up > >Just to add ... I really don't know what happened with me, the right >one had a sore spot behind it, then they both started burning, but >seemed like it happened so quickly. I just posted that I have had 5 >lymph nodes removed now, all with silicone in them, and mine were >saline and had them 2 1/2 years. So you just don't know what the >heck is going on in there. It is more complicated than leaking. >And just like both of you, was sick pretty fast and did not think it >was the implants the whole time! Nan > > > > > > >>>>>>>The thing is, my implants are saline but the surgeon said >if they > > were saline they would be empty, not leaking siowly. <<<<<<< > > > > , > > > > This isn't true. You can have a slow leak, especially if it's >through a > > faulty valve. Leaks can be so slow they can only leak a drop or >two here and > > there. My first set of implants began leaking immediately, and I >couldn't remove > > them because I didn't have the funds. From October 1997 to April >1999, it only > > went down 1 cup size. And Mentor themselves told me it was a >faulty valve. > > Then, my second set I got April 1999 did the same thing. I have >record of > > having been to doctors who've agreed I have a slow leak for the >past 8 years > > starting from 6 months after surgery when I noticed a volume >change, except that > > first doctor who implanted me told me it was just one dropping >faster than > > the other. (Probably because he was about to leave the country >and didn't want > > to fool with me.) It's taken 8 years of leaking, and it's about >half the > > size of the other one --- and really, most of that happened over >the past year. > > For some reason, it got worse when I quit being able to wear >regular bras and > > went with sports bras because the tissue up under my breasts and >armpits > > hurts so bad I can't stand a regular one. (Sports bras still hurt, >but I can > > handle them a few hours.) Anyway... leaks CAN be slow. I've had >many doctors > > who've concurred. > > > > I also got sick within a matter of a month or two, and my first >disease was > > neurological. Then, over the next months, the depression and >anxiety came. > > Once you have that, they'll blame anything on it. I also have >trouble with > > energy like you're describing. It was diagnosed over time as >Chronic Fatigue > > Syndrome, and Fibromyalgia. There are also periods where I can't >even sit up at > > the computer, or the couch... and on a normal basis, I only leave >my house a > > day or two per week because doing any more walking than what it >takes just > > being indoors exhausts me too bad. So, you might also look into >doctors who can > > do such a diagnosis... although there's really nothing they do >for it. > > > > Best wishes, and good luck to you. I wish I could say something >helps that > > kind of fatigue, but I haven't found it in anything. > > > > Brigite > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at ><http://www.aol.com./>http://www.aol.com. > > > > ><http://promos.hotbar.com/promos/promodll.dll?RunPromo & El= & SG= & RAND=1066 & partne\ r=hbtools> >Upgrade Your Email - Click here! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2007 Report Share Posted May 27, 2007 Thank you Lynda: I need to do more research on this. When he said bugs, perhaps Dr. Blais meant to say fungi or bacteria. I thought that when he told me that we literally had a colony of bugs in our implants! Whatever they are, we do not want them....thus no implants for any woman. Wonders me?...Love you......Lea ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~```````````````` Re: To weak to keep up>>Just to add ... I really don't know what happened with me, the right>one had a sore spot behind it, then they both started burning, but>seemed like it happened so quickly. I just posted that I have had 5>lymph nodes removed now, all with silicone in them, and mine were>saline and had them 2 1/2 years. So you just don't know what the>heck is going on in there. It is more complicated than leaking.>And just like both of you, was sick pretty fast and did not think it>was the implants the whole time! Nan>>> >> > >>>>>>>The thing is, my implants are saline but the surgeon said>if they> > were saline they would be empty, not leaking siowly. <<<<<<<> >> > ,> >> > This isn't true. You can have a slow leak, especially if it's>through a> > faulty valve. Leaks can be so slow they can only leak a drop or>two here and> > there. My first set of implants began leaking immediately, and I>couldn't remove> > them because I didn't have the funds. From October 1997 to April>1999, it only> > went down 1 cup size. And Mentor themselves told me it was a>faulty valve.> > Then, my second set I got April 1999 did the same thing. I have>record of> > having been to doctors who've agreed I have a slow leak for the>past 8 years> > starting from 6 months after surgery when I noticed a volume>change, except that> > first doctor who implanted me told me it was just one dropping>faster than> > the other. (Probably because he was about to leave the country>and didn't want> > to fool with me.) It's taken 8 years of leaking, and it's about>half the> > size of the other one --- and really, most of that happened over>the past year.> > For some reason, it got worse when I quit being able to wear>regular bras and> > went with sports bras because the tissue up under my breasts and>armpits> > hurts so bad I can't stand a regular one. (Sports bras still hurt,>but I can> > handle them a few hours.) Anyway... leaks CAN be slow. I've had>many doctors> > who've concurred.> >> > I also got sick within a matter of a month or two, and my first>disease was> > neurological. Then, over the next months, the depression and>anxiety came.> > Once you have that, they'll blame anything on it. I also have>trouble with> > energy like you're describing. It was diagnosed over time as>Chronic Fatigue> > Syndrome, and Fibromyalgia. There are also periods where I can't>even sit up at> > the computer, or the couch... and on a normal basis, I only leave>my house a> > day or two per week because doing any more walking than what it>takes just> > being indoors exhausts me too bad. So, you might also look into>doctors who can> > do such a diagnosis... although there's really nothing they do>for it.> >> > Best wishes, and good luck to you. I wish I could say something>helps that> > kind of fatigue, but I haven't found it in anything.> >> > Brigite > >> >> >> >> >> > ************************************** See what's free at><http://www.aol.com./>http://www.aol.com.> >>>><http://promos.hotbar.com/promos/promodll.dll?RunPromo & El= & SG= & RAND=1066 & partner=hbtools>>Upgrade Your Email - Click here!>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2007 Report Share Posted May 27, 2007 Pierre always calls bacteria, viruses and fungi bugs. Lynda At 09:42 AM 5/27/2007, you wrote: >Thank you Lynda: > >I need to do more research on this. When he said >bugs, perhaps Dr. Blais meant to say fungi or >bacteria. I thought that when he told me that we >literally had a colony of bugs in our implants! >Whatever they are, we do not want them....thus no implants for any woman. > >Wonders me?...Love you......Lea >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~```````````````` > Re: To weak to keep up > > > >Just to add ... I really don't know what happened with me, the right > >one had a sore spot behind it, then they both started burning, but > >seemed like it happened so quickly. I just posted that I have had 5 > >lymph nodes removed now, all with silicone in them, and mine were > >saline and had them 2 1/2 years. So you just don't know what the > >heck is going on in there. It is more complicated than leaking. > >And just like both of you, was sick pretty fast and did not think it > >was the implants the whole time! Nan > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>The thing is, my implants are saline but the surgeon said > >if they > > > were saline they would be empty, not leaking siowly. <<<<<<< > > > > > > , > > > > > > This isn't true. You can have a slow leak, especially if it's > >through a > > > faulty valve. Leaks can be so slow they can only leak a drop or > >two here and > > > there. My first set of implants began leaking immediately, and I > >couldn't remove > > > them because I didn't have the funds. From October 1997 to April > >1999, it only > > > went down 1 cup size. And Mentor themselves told me it was a > >faulty valve. > > > Then, my second set I got April 1999 did the same thing. I have > >record of > > > having been to doctors who've agreed I have a slow leak for the > >past 8 years > > > starting from 6 months after surgery when I noticed a volume > >change, except that > > > first doctor who implanted me told me it was just one dropping > >faster than > > > the other. (Probably because he was about to leave the country > >and didn't want > > > to fool with me.) It's taken 8 years of leaking, and it's about > >half the > > > size of the other one --- and really, most of that happened over > >the past year. > > > For some reason, it got worse when I quit being able to wear > >regular bras and > > > went with sports bras because the tissue up under my breasts and > >armpits > > > hurts so bad I can't stand a regular one. (Sports bras still hurt, > >but I can > > > handle them a few hours.) Anyway... leaks CAN be slow. I've had > >many doctors > > > who've concurred. > > > > > > I also got sick within a matter of a month or two, and my first > >disease was > > > neurological. Then, over the next months, the depression and > >anxiety came. > > > Once you have that, they'll blame anything on it. I also have > >trouble with > > > energy like you're describing. It was diagnosed over time as > >Chronic Fatigue > > > Syndrome, and Fibromyalgia. There are also periods where I can't > >even sit up at > > > the computer, or the couch... and on a normal basis, I only leave > >my house a > > > day or two per week because doing any more walking than what it > >takes just > > > being indoors exhausts me too bad. So, you might also look into > >doctors who can > > > do such a diagnosis... although there's really nothing they do > >for it. > > > > > > Best wishes, and good luck to you. I wish I could say something > >helps that > > > kind of fatigue, but I haven't found it in anything. > > > > > > Brigite > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > ><<http://www.aol.com./>http://www.aol.com./>http://www.aol.com. > > > > > > > > ><<http://promos.hotbar.com/promos/promodll.dll? > RunPromo & El= & SG= & RAND=1066 & partner=hbtools>http://promos.hotbar.com/promos/promo\ dll.dll?RunPromo & El= & SG= & RAND=1066 & partner=hbtools> > >Upgrade Your Email - Click here! > > > > > > > > ><http://promos.hotbar.com/promos/promodll.dll?RunPromo & El= & SG= & RAND=67887 & partn\ er=hbtools> >Upgrade Your Email - Click here! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2007 Report Share Posted May 27, 2007 Thank you Dede...I have the article on Silicone Particles, and they do become brittle and shatter...we will clean it up and post it. I am feeling better today, but I must paint, or plant the rest of our lettuce. I need some pep. Love you....Lea ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`` Re: Re: To weak to keep up Lea ~ The silicone shells for the saline break down, our bodies are programmned to fight foreign bodies, that is why when you get a splinter and cant get it out, your body will eventually spit it out. Silicone particles just go where they want to, and of course our bodies are filters for junk, and it just so happened that her lymph nodes got clogged from those particles ! ! More proof salines are NOT what they say they are ! ! I hope you are feeling better today sweet Lea ! Love Dede See what's free at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2007 Report Share Posted May 28, 2007 , I have the worst night sweats, and I do blame the implants. When I wake up in the night my face and hair is wet, and we have air conditioning. This symptom went away, but it is back! The restless leg syndrome is awful, the only cure is to go to sleep, if you can. Honey, I hope that you get some help soon...stay close...love you....Lea ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~````` Re: To weak to keep up Sandy, I was wondering if my night sweats were caused by the implants. When you say crawly feeling, do you mean like restless leg syndrome? I have restless leg syndrome all over my body.Sandy <dusty.comcomcast (DOT) net> wrote: Three years later when my implants were removed. The pain in my head,shoulders, neck, the night sweats and crawly feeling dissipated immediately upon removal. Hope this gives you a ray of hope, Sandy~ I know that heart trouble can cause neck pain, and I would bet with implants in it irritates your heart, causing the pain in the neck, and when you are expanted, it eventually goes away. Sounds good anyway, I plan for my pain to go away when I am explanted. .. Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Answers - Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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