re: supplement help

[Guest guest]

Have you tried lowering the amount of certain supplements and then

seeing if he can tolerate them daily? If not, then how many days

away from the supplements does he seem to 'need' before he improves?

If it's not too long then personally I would just go with it for a

while. We are probably in a similar boat in that on the off days, I

am not necessarily giving everything every single day either.

I definitely would not have him on GSE every day anyway, since that

would kill off everything and not be good for the overall balance in

the gut.

W

> Hi,

>

> My seven year old is doing very well on DSMA, but supplements are

> still a struggle. I can get Vitamin C, probiotics, Selenium and a

> basic multi in him, but that's about it. It seems I can give him

> supplements for 3-4 days and then he seems " off " .

[Guest guest]

--- In , " busyboysca " <tinaszenasi@h...>

wrote:

>>It seems I can give him

> supplements for 3-4 days and then he seems " off " .

Here are some ideas why he might have problems after a few days of

these supplements.

>> This happened with

> zinc (50 mg),

If his zinc/copper ratio is improved, giving zinc will cause problems.

This is what I experience with my son. I give him zinc about 1-2

times per week now.

>> B Vitamins,

I just reduced the dose of my son's B vitamins and his major ADD

issues disappeared.

>> Carnosine,

This elevates my son's copper levels.

>> certain probiotics,

Depends on which probiotics. My son does not tolerate most

probiotics. He will tolerate Culturelle, but ONLY when he has a

bacteria problem.

>> GSE,

This will kill yeast, but once the yeast is gone, it generally causes

bad bacteia to overgrow.

> enzymes,

Depends on which enzymes you used.

> supplements he will take and tolerates, I can't give it too him for

> than a few days in a row and then I have to stop and give

> a " breather " . Has anyone else experienced this? Any suggestions to

> get past this?

For my son, I am constantly adjusting his supplements. Some of them

he did not tolerate except after many rounds of chelation, others he

no longer needs, others he needs only during certain issues [like high

copper or when he had yeast].

Dana

[Guest guest]

Janelle, try adding Australia to your Subject line to get more

attention from the Aussie gals.

Bee

>

>

> Hi Girls

>

> I was wondering if any of the aussie girls here could help me, im

> having trouble finding all the supplements that bee has recommened,

is

> there someone you get them, i dont mind having to buy them off the

> internet? i'm in Brisbane but can't seem to find the right doses etc

>

> Many thanks

> Janelle

>

[Guest guest]

" Janelle " <fallingtwilight_26@> wrote:Hi GirlsI was wondering if

any of the aussie girls here could help me, im having trouble

finding all the supplements that bee has recommened is there someone

you get them, i dont mind having to buy them off the internet? i'm

in Brisbane but can't seem to find the right doses etc Many thanks

Janelle

***Hi Janelle, its Kat, Im in Brisbane as well, I am loath to give

you advice because, Im still a work in progress, although I take all

Bees recommended supplements, I havent yet been able to find or

adapt them into the dosages that Bee recommends, although I am

working on it. Initially when I first did Bees complete diet I was

very overwhelmed, I suffered first from constipation, bad breath,

chronic fatigue, severe digestive abdominal pains as well as trying

to make sure that I was able to cook all my meals, have enough

energy to go work, exercise a little, do the dry skin brushing and

coffee enemas twice weekly etc so although I had all the

supplements, they havent been in the exact dosage that bee

recommends, the last 2-3 weeks, I've had a vast improvement, energy

levels are on the up and I feel that I've turned the corner, Im

nearly onto maximum antifungals - (now up to 6 TBLSPN vco and 4

drops 3xdaily of oregano oil, now I must refine the supplements to

what Bee says (I should've done this before, but did the best I

could manage).

I get the Virgin Coconut Oil, through " Aclara health: " , he's a local

guy, and delivers free if you order a carton, the oregano oil, I

ordered through the internet " healthy health " , all the other

supplements I get at the " Healthy Life " store in Garden City, Upper

Mt Gravatt.

If you need more specifics let me know or if you want you can email

me personally.

bye for now and hope Im able to help you

Kat

[Guest guest]

susan krukas <tauttodream@...> wrote: Hi kat, i read your post

today and found it inspiring. Can i ask youhow long you were on the

diet before you began to notice that drastic difference in your

energy. I am just lookin for encouragement to keep on going as i am

having a difficult time. Die you have any dieff from the coconut

oil? thanks sue

***Hi Sue, I started Bees complete diet in early to mid April this

year, before that I had been on a diet recommended from a

naturopath, which wasnt as strict as Bees because it included some

higher carb veges and even some grains and rice (obviously it wasnt

very sucessful), however it did help me because it was a gradual

shift from my pre-candida diet towards Bees diet. And yes I did have

terrible die off from the vco but that was because I was trying to

take increased doses too soon, I was impatient and even though Bee

said do it gradually, I still thought maybe I could get away with

it, but I paid for it with severe fatigue - low energy, arms & legs

heavy like lead, constipation, stomach and digestive problems, bad

breath. I ended up having to back track with the vco, because too

early on i tried to take the 6 tblspns, but my body couldnt cope

with it, so I had to cut it right back, and increase it every 5 or

so days, and that along with the coffee enemas seem to help with the

die off, the energy and relief you have after one is so amazing. I

thought they were pretty revolting at first, but now I cant wait to

do them, because I know, Im gonna feel so good afterwards. Don't

get me wrong, although Im feeling more like myself nowadays, I still

have a lot of healing to do, I have some low energy days,(not severe)

I have a burning tongue, my stomach still has alot of activity and

gurgling going on in it, some pains, but I think they may be healing

or retracing because they are very mild, but im taking the

sauerkraut, and will continue on this diet and try to follow

everything Bee recommends. So girlfriend hang in there, because

Bees diet is the best, it REALLY works.

love Kat

PS. god bless Bee for all her dedication and kindness.

[Guest guest]

Hi girls

Bee thanks heaps for that suggestion, didnt think anyone wanted to

talk to me hehe, jen also a HUGE thanks to you, i was at a complete

loss as to where to get all this stuff and was getting stressed, ill

have a look out for the things you mentioned and see if i can do any

better here in brisbane,

Thanks again

Janelle

> >

> >

> > Hi Girls

> >

> > I was wondering if any of the aussie girls here could help me,

im

> > having trouble finding all the supplements that bee has

recommened,

> is

> > there someone you get them, i dont mind having to buy them off

the

> > internet? i'm in Brisbane but can't seem to find the right doses

etc

> >

> > Many thanks

> > Janelle

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Sue wrote;

> hi janelle,

>

> im in New Jersey and i have been wondering why some people have a

difficult time finding the supplements and getting them shipped to

them. I have found that it takes time to find the right levels of the

supplements but i can find them and have them shipped in a few days.

Where do you live? I dont mean to sound ignorant, but its so easy here

i wonder why?

==>Sue, Janelle lives in Australia.

Bee

[Guest guest]

Hi Kat

thanks heaps for getting back to me, i know i didnt realise it was

going to be so hard, ive also found quite a few of the supplements

but in alot lower doses, i must ask how did u find the first coffee

enema i have to admit im terrified of doing any kind of enema incase

i do some damage

best wishes

ps where about's in brissy are you?

Hi kat, i read your post

> today and found it inspiring. Can i ask youhow long you were on

the

> diet before you began to notice that drastic difference in your

> energy. I am just lookin for encouragement to keep on going as i

am

> having a difficult time. Die you have any dieff from the coconut

> oil? thanks sue

> ***Hi Sue, I started Bees complete diet in early to mid April this

> year, before that I had been on a diet recommended from a

> naturopath, which wasnt as strict as Bees because it included some

> higher carb veges and even some grains and rice (obviously it

wasnt

> very sucessful), however it did help me because it was a gradual

> shift from my pre-candida diet towards Bees diet. And yes I did

have

> terrible die off from the vco but that was because I was trying

to

> take increased doses too soon, I was impatient and even though Bee

> said do it gradually, I still thought maybe I could get away with

> it, but I paid for it with severe fatigue - low energy, arms &

legs

> heavy like lead, constipation, stomach and digestive problems, bad

> breath. I ended up having to back track with the vco, because too

> early on i tried to take the 6 tblspns, but my body couldnt cope

> with it, so I had to cut it right back, and increase it every 5 or

> so days, and that along with the coffee enemas seem to help with

the

> die off, the energy and relief you have after one is so amazing.

I

> thought they were pretty revolting at first, but now I cant wait

to

> do them, because I know, Im gonna feel so good afterwards. Don't

> get me wrong, although Im feeling more like myself nowadays, I

still

> have a lot of healing to do, I have some low energy days,(not

severe)

> I have a burning tongue, my stomach still has alot of activity and

> gurgling going on in it, some pains, but I think they may be

healing

> or retracing because they are very mild, but im taking the

> sauerkraut, and will continue on this diet and try to follow

> everything Bee recommends. So girlfriend hang in there, because

> Bees diet is the best, it REALLY works.

>

> love Kat

>

> PS. god bless Bee for all her dedication and kindness.

>

[Guest guest]

help. I can't swallow pills right now, due to the thyroid surgery. I

had just ordered Krill Oil gel caps from Dr. Mercola; it's supposed to

be as good or better than fish oil. The capsules are getting stuck in

my throat. Do you think if I opened the gel cap and emptied the

contents into a glass of water, it would work as well?

Thanks!

Beth

[Guest guest]

so yesterday i had only legal foods and today when i woke up i felt

> shaky, my heart was pounding and i felt sick to my stomach. so i

ate 2 spoonfuls of almond

> butter then that made me feel even worse and i threw up the almond

butter. i had a small

> slice of apple and some broth and went back to bed. i'm feeling

better now after having some

> eggs for breakfast but my question is what can i do to get through

this. i have 2 small

> children so i can't be in bed all day but i don't want to consume

food that's going to

> aggravate the yeast. what should i do, i'm nursing as well so i

can't take mega vitamin doses.

>

> thanks

> sam

>

Hi Sam,

I came over from the SCD also after I realized that all the allowed

sugars/nuts/dairy on there were making me worse. What helped me was

the introduction of good fats. The more fats I've added to my diet,

the less shakes I got. This is consistent with others I've heard from

who tried the SCD but had to leave it or moderate because of their

candida. Don't add fats too quickly, but increase every 4-5 days. I

am up to 4 Tbsp., 1 tsp. of coconut oil a day and it's taken me two

months to get here. But I don't get those shakes anymore. If

anything, I feel a little woozy if I'm hungry...or I actually feel

hungry!!

Hope this helps...welcome,

~Cathe

[Guest guest]

thank you cathe- any idea's on how to increase fats? we've been using coconut

oil for

cooking and mixed with foods for a while but how can i up the fats with my

little one?

right he's on the egg drink and i've been eating coconut oil off of a spoon with

meals

thanks again

sam

> Hi Sam,

>

> I came over from the SCD also after I realized that all the allowed

> sugars/nuts/dairy on there were making me worse. What helped me was

> the introduction of good fats. The more fats I've added to my diet,

> the less shakes I got. This is consistent with others I've heard from

> who tried the SCD but had to leave it or moderate because of their

> candida. Don't add fats too quickly, but increase every 4-5 days. I

> am up to 4 Tbsp., 1 tsp. of coconut oil a day and it's taken me two

> months to get here. But I don't get those shakes anymore. If

> anything, I feel a little woozy if I'm hungry...or I actually feel

> hungry!!

>

> Hope this helps...welcome,

> ~Cathe

>

[Guest guest]

Sam,

This is amazing....the first day coming on to this diet after doing the SCD, I

experienced exactly what you did! I was afraid by the shaking too so I ate a

handful of dried fruit and felt horrid afterwards. So the best thing for me to

do is to keep a pot of soup in the fridge that with fat already added, or some

deviled eggs with lots of fats mixed in, so I can just grab something out fast

at night ( I wake up at least once with my DD). And like others had said the

more fat the better I feel. I can actually go farther in between meals when I

eat enough fat with it.The egg drink helps get more fat into me too.

I'll let you know if I think of other things that your sons might like....

samadamfamily <samadamfamily@...> wrote:

when i woke up i felt

shaky, my heart was pounding and i felt sick to my stomach. so i ate 2 spoonfuls

of almond

butter then that made me feel even worse and i threw up the almond butter. i had

a small

slice of apple and some broth and went back to bed. i'm feeling better now after

having some

eggs for breakfast but my question is what can i do to get through this. i have

2 small

children so i can't be in bed all day but i don't want to consume food that's

going to

aggravate the yeast. what should i do, i'm nursing as well so i can't take mega

vitamin doses.

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[Guest guest]

> thank you cathe- any idea's on how to increase fats? we've been

using coconut oil for

> cooking and mixed with foods for a while but how can i up the fats

with my little one?

> right he's on the egg drink and i've been eating coconut oil off of

a spoon with meals

>

> thanks again

> sam

>

>

Hi Sam,

Try putting more butter in the egg drink, globs (yup, that's what I

tell my kids--here's your glob of fat) of butter instead of pats of

butter on their veggies. Add butter or olive oil to warmed

electrolyte drink. If you make a casserole, let a big glob of butter

melt on it before you dish it up. Stuff like that. I was unsure

about 'all that fat' in the beginning but it truly is the thing

that's helping me the most.

Does that help?

~Cathe

[Guest guest]

What you are discribing sound like when my blood sugar when low when I

first started.

To help I would make sure I had a batch of raw egg drink in the fridge

for the next morning. Drink some(at least a good glass) right when you

get up. It will take about 20 min (I think) to bring up your blood

sugar this way(if that is the problem). Always keep some handy in the

fridge for whenever you start to feel edgy/anxious or shaky.

This is what worked for me anyway. Something else that seemed to help

is I started eating the spiced pate like it was going out of style.

Then my sugar started to regulate again.

Hope this helps

Kara

[Guest guest]

thanks elizabeth- how do you ferment garlic? i've never heard of that before!

sam

> HI Sam

>

> I just mix the cooked yolks with a spoonful of fermented garlic (minced), a

spoonful of

both coconut oil and ghee and a drizzle of olive oil, salt and paprika. They

would taste

even better if you added a little salsa (when you can handle raw veggies).

>

> Vick

>

> samadamfamily <samadamfamily@...> wrote:

> thank you both elizabeth and cathe, ooh elizabeth how do you make

your deviled

eggs?

> that is such a good idea to keep that in the fridge so i can grab it before i

feel bad

again!

> we're back to using ghee again but my boys are waking up at night since adding

it back

in

> but i think i'll decrease the dose then work up again. have you started

supplements yet?

> i'm afraid to start them because its like opening a can of worms with my kids.

first its ok

> then it goes down hill fast.

> thanks again

> sam

>

> >

> > Hi Sam,

> >

> > Try putting more butter in the egg drink, globs (yup, that's what I

> > tell my kids--here's your glob of fat) of butter instead of pats of

> > butter on their veggies. Add butter or olive oil to warmed

> > electrolyte drink. If you make a casserole, let a big glob of butter

> > melt on it before you dish it up. Stuff like that. I was unsure

> > about 'all that fat' in the beginning but it truly is the thing

> > that's helping me the most.

> >

> > Does that help?

> > ~Cathe

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

>

> thank you cathe- any idea's on how to increase fats? we've been using

coconut oil for

> cooking and mixed with foods for a while but how can i up the fats

with my little one?

> right he's on the egg drink and i've been eating coconut oil off of a

spoon with meals

==>Sam, also add your cod liver oil/fish oil to your fat intake. Pork

is a very fatty delicious meat to have as well. I pour the coconut oil

used to cook my meats and stir fries all over the food on my plate, and

also add more butter, salt and pepper, and it's yummy. Try searching

our message archives for ideas on how to increase fats too.

Luv, Bee