Guest guest Posted May 20, 2007 Report Share Posted May 20, 2007 Honey, do you really think that the manufacturers are looking at this site? I would think that they are too busy trying to kill more women. Wonders me...love you....Lea ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`````````` Re: Re: Dr Mark We have a bunch of silent members! . . . From all walks of life. . . including manufacturers! Rogene DGRAHAMAAOL (DOT) COM wrote: Maybe a silent board member??? See what's free at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2007 Report Share Posted May 20, 2007 Manufacturers . . . attorneys . . . . doctors . . . . breast implant pushers . . . We have far more people reading than posting! Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted May 21, 2007 Report Share Posted May 21, 2007 Dede, I will wait until you get your test results back before I send him any questions. Please feel free to send me any questions you may have and let's see what he has to say. He's made himself available for that, so it makes sense to find out what thoughts he has on the subject! PattyDGRAHAMA@... wrote: Patty, When you talking with him? I may have a question when I get my tests back that I had done friday. I usually check out all the resourses I can, and stay completely openminded to everything, with God, anything is possible.....I have had so many miracles, he is definately crutial in my life ! ! Love Dede See what's free at AOL.com. Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2007 Report Share Posted May 21, 2007 Kenda, We own three businesses. We have had more employees than I care to count who have used Christianity as a ruse to fool us into thinking that they are honest, and who then steal us blind. Does that mean I treat all potential employees as dishonest? Especially if they mention that they are Christian or indicate dedication to living by faith? Are all Christians schemers? No. And there are many reasons why we do not take this stand. We've been ripped off, and we've been taken advantage of, but that does not change how we conduct ourselves. You see, the burden of the dishonesty lies with the offender, not the offended. I conduct myself with integrity no matter how I am treated or how much I suffer. I trust the in the end, the cheater will be called into account for his actions. That's what I believe based on what I know to be true. It doesn't mean that we act naively, and allow ourselves to be treated poorly. We have learned out lessons. But it is important that as we learn our lessons, we also do not commit the terrible mistake of treating others unfairly, based on prior judgements of others That, in itself, is wrong. Each person, as an individual, has worth and is to be treated as such. It's a hard way to live, but I believe it's the right way. I know that I would not like it if I were labeled as a liar and a cheat and judged unfairly. Nobody wants that. It's not fair to label Christians based on the actions of a few who misuse the name, either. There is no such thing as a perfect Christian, and there never will be until Christ returns. We just need to get that through our heads. I am not trying to defend this doctor, nor am I suggesting that anyone consult with him. I am just trying to gently say that it is not fair to judge him without having talked to him. I know quite well how sick and how poor most of the women on this group are. I was quite glad that I had the chance to talk to this man. It came at a time when I was seeking God in prayer, and he actually was an answer to that prayer! He did not advertise his faith to me in any way, either. That came about on a different day, through a different post, and I asked him about it by email. I don't know where this will go....but I do know I am going to tap into his thoughts on the adrenal issues and test results. How sad it would be if, after all our seeking God for help and crying out for answers, that God would send us someone to provide a vital clue and we just reject him outright because he didn't fit the mold? Isn't that what happened to Jesus? Patty Kenda Skaggs <lovesgoldens@...> wrote: Patty,You could be absolutely right and that it was a nice offer but I see it differently. I see that he has an opportunity to make a whole lot of money off of a lot of sick women. His consultation prices are astronomical and I consider to be price gouging. Additionally, most people who advertise their Christianity I have found to be less than what they say they are. I have stopped people like this dead in their tracks on numerous occasions, one of which was a painter advertised as Christian Painters. He attempted to scam my elderly neighbor for several thousand dollars. The words “the Lord is completely underlying everything in my life” are simply words to me. His actions dictate his character, not his words. We don’ know this man’s character. Kenda Hmmm, I thought it was a nice offer. Anyway, I will certainly take him up on that. I'll definitely talk to a PhD scientist that is a consultant to other doctors and willing to answer my questions! Apparently he wrote the first commercial computer analysis of the female hormone cycle for Diagnos-Techs. I still don't know what he charges other people for consultations....so I have no verification, but I can tell you I trust his integrity, because in his words, "the Lord is completely underlying everything in my life.". That was so nice to read in his email to me. I'll pick a brain like his anytime. I have alot of respect for scientists--they stay on top of the newest information a heck of alot better than most MD's do. And when they're believers in God, well, that's the icing on the cake. Group, I'll let you know if there is anything I want to share in my correspondence with Dr. . Patty Kenda Skaggs <lovesgoldensgmail> wrote: Patty,No thank you, I’ll stick with my ND. I question the integrity of a professional who is so highly overpriced. Kenda Kenda, By the way, I received this letter from Dr. yesterday. Feel free to come up with some questions for me to ask him! Any and all submissions will be considered! Everyone is welcome to ask a question, and I will pick 8 of them for him to reply to. Patty Hey, Patty. I just read through a few of the recent posts on your group. If you want, why don't you prepare about 6, or 8 questions for me that would apply to the group. I'll try to answer them. You can edit as necessary and post them back. Only if you want to... MarkTricia Trish <glory2glory1401 > wrote: Yes, probably so. I don't know what he charges. I didn't ask him. It works out to $240 an hour, which is steep, but I am sure is similar to that charged by others who do consulting work (that are overpriced.) You could email him yourself and ask about his credentials. Pattyhomemadesoaper <lovesgoldensgmail> wrote: I just checked out Dr. ' website. Does he really charge $4.00 per minute? What kind of credentials does he have? My ND is licensed and holds a PhD and charges nearly half that amount, in addition to giving away a lot of free time. may be knowledgeable but he seems WAY overpriced and unaffordable to most.Kenda>> Nope, that doesn't bother me at all. Smart is smart, and if he knows his stuff, it doesn't matter what his title is. He does testing and consultations, so it's not like he doesn't treat people.> Patty> > sedwards41255 <sedwards41255@...> wrote:> Patty,> Does it bother you at all that he is a PhD in biological research > rather than a medical doctor? ummmm...I think I will look into him > further. > > > > >> > Dear group,> > I just got off the phone with a very, very nice man. I got put > in touch with him when I called Diagnos-Techs in regards to concerns > about my adrenal hormone, thyroid and sex hormone tests and > results. He is on the Board of Directors for Diagnos-Techs.> > > > I found him to be very warm and personable, and he understands > adrenal issues! It looks like he is in the state of Oregon, but he > does consultations worldwide, if anyone is interested in consulting > with him.> > > > http://www.drmarkrhodes.com/> > > > Basically, he looked at my results with me, and shared that he > did not believe I was in Stage 7 adrenal fatigue. He said it's more > like Stage 4 or 5. The clue was my first cortisol reading in the > morning. My cortisol is not flatlined, like in the stage 7 graph. > It has a relatively good production of cortisol in the morning > (compared to the rest of the day, even though it is still low), so > he said that shows my adrenals are not flat out exhausted. They are > still producing, just not enough.> > > > He also suggested that HC replacement therapy probably won't be > necessary right now, but that my adrenals could be totally supported > through herbs and nutritional supplements. Cortisol supplementation > is to be used as a last resort, and even then, only temporarily. > Even Isocort should be used carefully he said. The reason is > because the brain is always monitoring what is going on with the > hormones, and outside supplementation is going to throw it off, so > that while we may feel better in the short term, in the long term, > this affects us negatively.> > > > He said my thyroid looks good. The only thing that was affected > by the lag in the mail was my TSH, which actually still looks good. > My TPO Antibodies was negative! He said that over time, some people > with Hashimoto's can go negative permanently! So, I am excited > about that, and I probably will do some additonal blood work to > confirm whether or not my antibodies are indeed gone. I'll let you > know.> > > > All in all, my test results look fairly good. My thyroid is > working well. My sex hormones are slightly deficient in ratio of > progesterone to estrogen, (they should be 30:1 . Mine wa more like > 18:1) even though each individual number is in the normal ranges. > But he cautions heartily against transdermal creams for progesterone > replacement, due to the fact that it can build up in the body. He > recommends sublinguals instead. > > > > He does have supplements available through his practice. > > > > I'm really glad I got to talk to him. It assuaged my upset > about the timing issues of my test, and revealed that it really > wasn't that bad of a test result overall. In the future, if I > retest, I will definitely overnight it.> > > > So, the bottom line is that while the test results can give you > a picture of your hormone health, there is some interpretation that > needs to be done to tell the whole picture. It does take a good > doctor who understands the hormonal dance that is going on, and I > think he does.> > > > Patty> > > > > > ---------------------------------> > Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your > story.> > Play Sims Stories at Games.> >> > > > > > __________________________________________________> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2007 Report Share Posted May 21, 2007 Patty, And if he was the answer to your prayer you should follow your instinct. Because his advice is expensive at $4.00 a minute ($240/hr)and because there is already a wealth of " free " , " experienced " information on two if not three websites whose moderators and posters have suffered from adrenal fatigue.... as well as books written by knowledgable doctors who have treated their patients and because I already have my own doctor....the point is lost on me. which is why I said I will not be using him. Any question I have, I can post on other sites and get responses from people in the " trenches " so to speak. I wish you luck with him...and hope he is able to give you the answers you want ! nks...etc. if not three sites with knowledgeable people who by the way suffer from this very thing we call adrenal fatigue and wh > > > > > > Dear group, > > > I just got off the phone with a very, very nice man. I got put > > in touch with him when I called Diagnos-Techs in regards to concerns > > about my adrenal hormone, thyroid and sex hormone tests and > > results. He is on the Board of Directors for Diagnos-Techs. > > > > > > I found him to be very warm and personable, and he understands > > adrenal issues! It looks like he is in the state of Oregon, but he > > does consultations worldwide, if anyone is interested in consulting > > with him. > > > > > > http://www.drmarkrhodes.com/ > > > > > > Basically, he looked at my results with me, and shared that he > > did not believe I was in Stage 7 adrenal fatigue. He said it's more > > like Stage 4 or 5. The clue was my first cortisol reading in the > > morning. My cortisol is not flatlined, like in the stage 7 graph. > > It has a relatively good production of cortisol in the morning > > (compared to the rest of the day, even though it is still low), so > > he said that shows my adrenals are not flat out exhausted. They are > > still producing, just not enough. > > > > > > He also suggested that HC replacement therapy probably won't be > > necessary right now, but that my adrenals could be totally supported > > through herbs and nutritional supplements. Cortisol supplementation > > is to be used as a last resort, and even then, only temporarily. > > Even Isocort should be used carefully he said. The reason is > > because the brain is always monitoring what is going on with the > > hormones, and outside supplementation is going to throw it off, so > > that while we may feel better in the short term, in the long term, > > this affects us negatively. > > > > > > He said my thyroid looks good. The only thing that was affected > > by the lag in the mail was my TSH, which actually still looks good. > > My TPO Antibodies was negative! He said that over time, some people > > with Hashimoto's can go negative permanently! So, I am excited > > about that, and I probably will do some additonal blood work to > > confirm whether or not my antibodies are indeed gone. I'll let you > > know. > > > > > > All in all, my test results look fairly good. My thyroid is > > working well. My sex hormones are slightly deficient in ratio of > > progesterone to estrogen, (they should be 30:1 . Mine wa more like > > 18:1) even though each individual number is in the normal ranges. > > But he cautions heartily against transdermal creams for progesterone > > replacement, due to the fact that it can build up in the body. He > > recommends sublinguals instead. > > > > > > He does have supplements available through his practice. > > > > > > I'm really glad I got to talk to him. It assuaged my upset > > about the timing issues of my test, and revealed that it really > > wasn't that bad of a test result overall. In the future, if I > > retest, I will definitely overnight it. > > > > > > So, the bottom line is that while the test results can give you > > a picture of your hormone health, there is some interpretation that > > needs to be done to tell the whole picture. It does take a good > > doctor who understands the hormonal dance that is going on, and I > > think he does. > > > > > > Patty > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your > > story. > > > Play Sims Stories at Games. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2007 Report Share Posted May 21, 2007 Why hasn't Dr. posted his CV (education and credentials) on his website? If it is there I haven't found it yet. > > > > > > Dear group, > > > I just got off the phone with a very, very nice man. I got put > > in touch with him when I called Diagnos-Techs in regards to concerns > > about my adrenal hormone, thyroid and sex hormone tests and > > results. He is on the Board of Directors for Diagnos-Techs. > > > > > > I found him to be very warm and personable, and he understands > > adrenal issues! It looks like he is in the state of Oregon, but he > > does consultations worldwide, if anyone is interested in consulting > > with him. > > > > > > http://www.drmarkrhodes.com/ > > > > > > Basically, he looked at my results with me, and shared that he > > did not believe I was in Stage 7 adrenal fatigue. He said it's more > > like Stage 4 or 5. The clue was my first cortisol reading in the > > morning. My cortisol is not flatlined, like in the stage 7 graph. > > It has a relatively good production of cortisol in the morning > > (compared to the rest of the day, even though it is still low), so > > he said that shows my adrenals are not flat out exhausted. They are > > still producing, just not enough. > > > > > > He also suggested that HC replacement therapy probably won't be > > necessary right now, but that my adrenals could be totally supported > > through herbs and nutritional supplements. Cortisol supplementation > > is to be used as a last resort, and even then, only temporarily. > > Even Isocort should be used carefully he said. The reason is > > because the brain is always monitoring what is going on with the > > hormones, and outside supplementation is going to throw it off, so > > that while we may feel better in the short term, in the long term, > > this affects us negatively. > > > > > > He said my thyroid looks good. The only thing that was affected > > by the lag in the mail was my TSH, which actually still looks good. > > My TPO Antibodies was negative! He said that over time, some people > > with Hashimoto's can go negative permanently! So, I am excited > > about that, and I probably will do some additonal blood work to > > confirm whether or not my antibodies are indeed gone. I'll let you > > know. > > > > > > All in all, my test results look fairly good. My thyroid is > > working well. My sex hormones are slightly deficient in ratio of > > progesterone to estrogen, (they should be 30:1 . Mine wa more like > > 18:1) even though each individual number is in the normal ranges. > > But he cautions heartily against transdermal creams for progesterone > > replacement, due to the fact that it can build up in the body. He > > recommends sublinguals instead. > > > > > > He does have supplements available through his practice. > > > > > > I'm really glad I got to talk to him. It assuaged my upset > > about the timing issues of my test, and revealed that it really > > wasn't that bad of a test result overall. In the future, if I > > retest, I will definitely overnight it. > > > > > > So, the bottom line is that while the test results can give you > > a picture of your hormone health, there is some interpretation that > > needs to be done to tell the whole picture. It does take a good > > doctor who understands the hormonal dance that is going on, and I > > think he does. > > > > > > Patty > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your > > story. > > > Play Sims Stories at Games. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2007 Report Share Posted May 21, 2007 The point, , plain and simple is to get answers. Yes, use those groups! All of them! Use the books! Read whatever you can find to help make sense of your condition. Use information gathered and shared from other people who have been where we are! Use whatever information you can to help you understand your tests, your symptoms, your condition. You don't have to pay alot of money, you don't even have to pay any money. The point is to get information. I don't think I've said anything else. Patty sedwards41255 <sedwards41255@...> wrote: Patty,And if he was the answer to your prayer you should follow your instinct. Because his advice is expensive at $4.00 a minute ($240/hr)and because there is already a wealth of "free", "experienced" information on two if not three websites whose moderators and posters have suffered from adrenal fatigue.... as well as books written by knowledgable doctors who have treated their patients and because I already have my own doctor....the point is lost on me. which is why I said I will not be using him. Any question I have, I can post on other sites and get responses from people in the "trenches" so to speak. I wish you luck with him...and hope he is able to give you the answers you want !nks...etc. if not three sites with knowledgeable people who by the way suffer from this very thing we call adrenal fatigue and wh> > >> > > Dear group,> > > I just got off the phone with a very, very nice man. I got put > > in touch with him when I called Diagnos-Techs in regards to concerns > > about my adrenal hormone, thyroid and sex hormone tests and > > results. He is on the Board of Directors for Diagnos-Techs.> > > > > > I found him to be very warm and personable, and he understands > > adrenal issues! It looks like he is in the state of Oregon, but he > > does consultations worldwide, if anyone is interested in consulting > > with him.> > > > > > http://www.drmarkrhodes.com/> > > > > > Basically, he looked at my results with me, and shared that he > > did not believe I was in Stage 7 adrenal fatigue. He said it's more > > like Stage 4 or 5. The clue was my first cortisol reading in the > > morning. My cortisol is not flatlined, like in the stage 7 graph. > > It has a relatively good production of cortisol in the morning > > (compared to the rest of the day, even though it is still low), so > > he said that shows my adrenals are not flat out exhausted. They are > > still producing, just not enough.> > > > > > He also suggested that HC replacement therapy probably won't be > > necessary right now, but that my adrenals could be totally supported > > through herbs and nutritional supplements. Cortisol supplementation > > is to be used as a last resort, and even then, only temporarily. > > Even Isocort should be used carefully he said. The reason is > > because the brain is always monitoring what is going on with the > > hormones, and outside supplementation is going to throw it off, so > > that while we may feel better in the short term, in the long term, > > this affects us negatively.> > > > > > He said my thyroid looks good. The only thing that was affected > > by the lag in the mail was my TSH, which actually still looks good. > > My TPO Antibodies was negative! He said that over time, some people > > with Hashimoto's can go negative permanently! So, I am excited > > about that, and I probably will do some additonal blood work to > > confirm whether or not my antibodies are indeed gone. I'll let you > > know.> > > > > > All in all, my test results look fairly good. My thyroid is > > working well. My sex hormones are slightly deficient in ratio of > > progesterone to estrogen, (they should be 30:1 . Mine wa more like > > 18:1) even though each individual number is in the normal ranges. > > But he cautions heartily against transdermal creams for progesterone > > replacement, due to the fact that it can build up in the body. He > > recommends sublinguals instead. > > > > > > He does have supplements available through his practice. > > > > > > I'm really glad I got to talk to him. It assuaged my upset > > about the timing issues of my test, and revealed that it really > > wasn't that bad of a test result overall. In the future, if I > > retest, I will definitely overnight it.> > > > > > So, the bottom line is that while the test results can give you > > a picture of your hormone health, there is some interpretation that > > needs to be done to tell the whole picture. It does take a good > > doctor who understands the hormonal dance that is going on, and I > > think he does.> > > > > > Patty> > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> > > Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your > > story.> > > Play Sims Stories at Games.> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2007 Report Share Posted May 21, 2007 That's clearly a question for him to answer. Why don't you ask him? Patty > > > > > > > > Dear group, > > > > I just got off the phone with a very, very nice man. I got put > > > in touch with him when I called Diagnos-Techs in regards to > concerns > > > about my adrenal hormone, thyroid and sex hormone tests and > > > results. He is on the Board of Directors for Diagnos-Techs. > > > > > > > > I found him to be very warm and personable, and he understands > > > adrenal issues! It looks like he is in the state of Oregon, but > he > > > does consultations worldwide, if anyone is interested in > consulting > > > with him. > > > > > > > > http://www.drmarkrhodes.com/ > > > > > > > > Basically, he looked at my results with me, and shared that he > > > did not believe I was in Stage 7 adrenal fatigue. He said it's > more > > > like Stage 4 or 5. The clue was my first cortisol reading in the > > > morning. My cortisol is not flatlined, like in the stage 7 > graph. > > > It has a relatively good production of cortisol in the morning > > > (compared to the rest of the day, even though it is still low), > so > > > he said that shows my adrenals are not flat out exhausted. They > are > > > still producing, just not enough. > > > > > > > > He also suggested that HC replacement therapy probably won't > be > > > necessary right now, but that my adrenals could be totally > supported > > > through herbs and nutritional supplements. Cortisol > supplementation > > > is to be used as a last resort, and even then, only temporarily. > > > Even Isocort should be used carefully he said. The reason is > > > because the brain is always monitoring what is going on with the > > > hormones, and outside supplementation is going to throw it off, > so > > > that while we may feel better in the short term, in the long > term, > > > this affects us negatively. > > > > > > > > He said my thyroid looks good. The only thing that was > affected > > > by the lag in the mail was my TSH, which actually still looks > good. > > > My TPO Antibodies was negative! He said that over time, some > people > > > with Hashimoto's can go negative permanently! So, I am excited > > > about that, and I probably will do some additonal blood work to > > > confirm whether or not my antibodies are indeed gone. I'll let > you > > > know. > > > > > > > > All in all, my test results look fairly good. My thyroid is > > > working well. My sex hormones are slightly deficient in ratio of > > > progesterone to estrogen, (they should be 30:1 . Mine wa more > like > > > 18:1) even though each individual number is in the normal > ranges. > > > But he cautions heartily against transdermal creams for > progesterone > > > replacement, due to the fact that it can build up in the body. > He > > > recommends sublinguals instead. > > > > > > > > He does have supplements available through his practice. > > > > > > > > I'm really glad I got to talk to him. It assuaged my upset > > > about the timing issues of my test, and revealed that it really > > > wasn't that bad of a test result overall. In the future, if I > > > retest, I will definitely overnight it. > > > > > > > > So, the bottom line is that while the test results can give > you > > > a picture of your hormone health, there is some interpretation > that > > > needs to be done to tell the whole picture. It does take a good > > > doctor who understands the hormonal dance that is going on, and > I > > > think he does. > > > > > > > > Patty > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, > your > > > story. > > > > Play Sims Stories at Games. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2007 Report Share Posted May 21, 2007 I find this incredible. I simply suggested that IF anyone has any questions they would like me to forward on to Dr. , that they would be welcome to do so. I am not treating with him. I made one phone call that sent me his way. He responded kindly. End of story. I won't take this any further, and I would appreciate it if you would not respond about it again. I'm truly amazed at the vitriol this engendered. Patty > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> > > Dear group, > >>>>>>>>> > > I just got off the phone with a very, very nice man. I got put > >>>>>>>> > in touch with him when I called Diagnos-Techs in regards to concerns > >>>>>>>> > about my adrenal hormone, thyroid and sex hormone tests and > >>>>>>>> > results. He is on the Board of Directors for Diagnos- Techs. > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> > > I found him to be very warm and personable, and he understands > >>>>>>>> > adrenal issues! It looks like he is in the state of Oregon, but he > >>>>>>>> > does consultations worldwide, if anyone is interested in consulting > >>>>>>>> > with him. > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> > > http://www.drmarkrhodes.com/ > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> > > Basically, he looked at my results with me, and shared that he > >>>>>>>> > did not believe I was in Stage 7 adrenal fatigue. He said it's more > >>>>>>>> > like Stage 4 or 5. The clue was my first cortisol reading in the > >>>>>>>> > morning. My cortisol is not flatlined, like in the stage 7 graph. > >>>>>>>> > It has a relatively good production of cortisol in the morning > >>>>>>>> > (compared to the rest of the day, even though it is still low), so > >>>>>>>> > he said that shows my adrenals are not flat out exhausted. They are > >>>>>>>> > still producing, just not enough. > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> > > He also suggested that HC replacement therapy probably won't be > >>>>>>>> > necessary right now, but that my adrenals could be totally supported > >>>>>>>> > through herbs and nutritional supplements. Cortisol supplementation > >>>>>>>> > is to be used as a last resort, and even then, only temporarily. > >>>>>>>> > Even Isocort should be used carefully he said. The reason is > >>>>>>>> > because the brain is always monitoring what is going on with the > >>>>>>>> > hormones, and outside supplementation is going to throw it off, so > >>>>>>>> > that while we may feel better in the short term, in the long term, > >>>>>>>> > this affects us negatively. > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> > > He said my thyroid looks good. The only thing that was affected > >>>>>>>> > by the lag in the mail was my TSH, which actually still looks good. > >>>>>>>> > My TPO Antibodies was negative! He said that over time, some people > >>>>>>>> > with Hashimoto's can go negative permanently! So, I am excited > >>>>>>>> > about that, and I probably will do some additonal blood work to > >>>>>>>> > confirm whether or not my antibodies are indeed gone. I'll let you > >>>>>>>> > know. > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> > > All in all, my test results look fairly good. My thyroid is > >>>>>>>> > working well. My sex hormones are slightly deficient in ratio of > >>>>>>>> > progesterone to estrogen, (they should be 30:1 . Mine wa more like > >>>>>>>> > 18:1) even though each individual number is in the normal ranges. > >>>>>>>> > But he cautions heartily against transdermal creams for progesterone > >>>>>>>> > replacement, due to the fact that it can build up in the body. He > >>>>>>>> > recommends sublinguals instead. > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> > > He does have supplements available through his practice. > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> > > I'm really glad I got to talk to him. It assuaged my upset > >>>>>>>> > about the timing issues of my test, and revealed that it really > >>>>>>>> > wasn't that bad of a test result overall. In the future, if I > >>>>>>>> > retest, I will definitely overnight it. > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> > > So, the bottom line is that while the test results can give you > >>>>>>>> > a picture of your hormone health, there is some interpretation that > >>>>>>>> > needs to be done to tell the whole picture. It does take a good > >>>>>>>> > doctor who understands the hormonal dance that is going on, and I > >>>>>>>> > think he does. > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> > > Patty > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> > > --------------------------------- > >>>>>>>>> > > Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your > >>>>>>>> > story. > >>>>>>>>> > > Play Sims Stories at Games. > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > __________________________________________________ > >>>>>>>> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2007 Report Share Posted May 21, 2007 Yep, me too. Enough is enough. Lynda At 04:43 PM 5/21/2007, you wrote: >I find this incredible. > >I simply suggested that IF anyone has any questions they would like >me to forward on to Dr. , that they would be welcome to do so. > >I am not treating with him. I made one phone call that sent me his >way. He responded kindly. End of story. > >I won't take this any further, and I would appreciate it if you >would not respond about it again. >I'm truly amazed at the vitriol this engendered. >Patty > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > Dear group, > > >>>>>>>>> > > I just got off the phone with a very, very nice man. >I got put > > >>>>>>>> > in touch with him when I called Diagnos-Techs in >regards to concerns > > >>>>>>>> > about my adrenal hormone, thyroid and sex hormone tests >and > > >>>>>>>> > results. He is on the Board of Directors for Diagnos- >Techs. > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > I found him to be very warm and personable, and he >understands > > >>>>>>>> > adrenal issues! It looks like he is in the state of >Oregon, but he > > >>>>>>>> > does consultations worldwide, if anyone is interested >in consulting > > >>>>>>>> > with him. > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > <http://www.drmarkrhodes.com/>http://www.drmarkrhodes.com/ > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > Basically, he looked at my results with me, and >shared that he > > >>>>>>>> > did not believe I was in Stage 7 adrenal fatigue. He >said it's more > > >>>>>>>> > like Stage 4 or 5. The clue was my first cortisol >reading in the > > >>>>>>>> > morning. My cortisol is not flatlined, like in the >stage 7 graph. > > >>>>>>>> > It has a relatively good production of cortisol in the >morning > > >>>>>>>> > (compared to the rest of the day, even though it is >still low), so > > >>>>>>>> > he said that shows my adrenals are not flat out >exhausted. They are > > >>>>>>>> > still producing, just not enough. > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > He also suggested that HC replacement therapy >probably won't be > > >>>>>>>> > necessary right now, but that my adrenals could be >totally supported > > >>>>>>>> > through herbs and nutritional supplements. Cortisol >supplementation > > >>>>>>>> > is to be used as a last resort, and even then, only >temporarily. > > >>>>>>>> > Even Isocort should be used carefully he said. The >reason is > > >>>>>>>> > because the brain is always monitoring what is going on >with the > > >>>>>>>> > hormones, and outside supplementation is going to throw >it off, so > > >>>>>>>> > that while we may feel better in the short term, in the >long term, > > >>>>>>>> > this affects us negatively. > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > He said my thyroid looks good. The only thing that >was affected > > >>>>>>>> > by the lag in the mail was my TSH, which actually still >looks good. > > >>>>>>>> > My TPO Antibodies was negative! He said that over time, >some people > > >>>>>>>> > with Hashimoto's can go negative permanently! So, I am >excited > > >>>>>>>> > about that, and I probably will do some additonal blood >work to > > >>>>>>>> > confirm whether or not my antibodies are indeed gone. >I'll let you > > >>>>>>>> > know. > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > All in all, my test results look fairly good. My >thyroid is > > >>>>>>>> > working well. My sex hormones are slightly deficient in >ratio of > > >>>>>>>> > progesterone to estrogen, (they should be 30:1 . Mine >wa more like > > >>>>>>>> > 18:1) even though each individual number is in the >normal ranges. > > >>>>>>>> > But he cautions heartily against transdermal creams for >progesterone > > >>>>>>>> > replacement, due to the fact that it can build up in >the body. He > > >>>>>>>> > recommends sublinguals instead. > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > He does have supplements available through his >practice. > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > I'm really glad I got to talk to him. It assuaged my >upset > > >>>>>>>> > about the timing issues of my test, and revealed that >it really > > >>>>>>>> > wasn't that bad of a test result overall. In the >future, if I > > >>>>>>>> > retest, I will definitely overnight it. > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > So, the bottom line is that while the test results >can give you > > >>>>>>>> > a picture of your hormone health, there is some >interpretation that > > >>>>>>>> > needs to be done to tell the whole picture. It does >take a good > > >>>>>>>> > doctor who understands the hormonal dance that is going >on, and I > > >>>>>>>> > think he does. > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > Patty > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > --------------------------------- > > >>>>>>>>> > > Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - >their life, your > > >>>>>>>> > story. > > >>>>>>>>> > > Play Sims Stories at Games. > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > __________________________________________________ > > >>>>>>>> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2007 Report Share Posted May 21, 2007 I'm confused. I think that is what I said. > > > > > > > > Dear group, > > > > I just got off the phone with a very, very nice man. I got put > > > in touch with him when I called Diagnos-Techs in regards to > concerns > > > about my adrenal hormone, thyroid and sex hormone tests and > > > results. He is on the Board of Directors for Diagnos-Techs. > > > > > > > > I found him to be very warm and personable, and he understands > > > adrenal issues! It looks like he is in the state of Oregon, but > he > > > does consultations worldwide, if anyone is interested in > consulting > > > with him. > > > > > > > > http://www.drmarkrhodes.com/ > > > > > > > > Basically, he looked at my results with me, and shared that he > > > did not believe I was in Stage 7 adrenal fatigue. He said it's > more > > > like Stage 4 or 5. The clue was my first cortisol reading in the > > > morning. My cortisol is not flatlined, like in the stage 7 > graph. > > > It has a relatively good production of cortisol in the morning > > > (compared to the rest of the day, even though it is still low), > so > > > he said that shows my adrenals are not flat out exhausted. They > are > > > still producing, just not enough. > > > > > > > > He also suggested that HC replacement therapy probably won't > be > > > necessary right now, but that my adrenals could be totally > supported > > > through herbs and nutritional supplements. Cortisol > supplementation > > > is to be used as a last resort, and even then, only temporarily. > > > Even Isocort should be used carefully he said. The reason is > > > because the brain is always monitoring what is going on with the > > > hormones, and outside supplementation is going to throw it off, > so > > > that while we may feel better in the short term, in the long > term, > > > this affects us negatively. > > > > > > > > He said my thyroid looks good. The only thing that was > affected > > > by the lag in the mail was my TSH, which actually still looks > good. > > > My TPO Antibodies was negative! He said that over time, some > people > > > with Hashimoto's can go negative permanently! So, I am excited > > > about that, and I probably will do some additonal blood work to > > > confirm whether or not my antibodies are indeed gone. I'll let > you > > > know. > > > > > > > > All in all, my test results look fairly good. My thyroid is > > > working well. My sex hormones are slightly deficient in ratio of > > > progesterone to estrogen, (they should be 30:1 . Mine wa more > like > > > 18:1) even though each individual number is in the normal > ranges. > > > But he cautions heartily against transdermal creams for > progesterone > > > replacement, due to the fact that it can build up in the body. > He > > > recommends sublinguals instead. > > > > > > > > He does have supplements available through his practice. > > > > > > > > I'm really glad I got to talk to him. It assuaged my upset > > > about the timing issues of my test, and revealed that it really > > > wasn't that bad of a test result overall. In the future, if I > > > retest, I will definitely overnight it. > > > > > > > > So, the bottom line is that while the test results can give > you > > > a picture of your hormone health, there is some interpretation > that > > > needs to be done to tell the whole picture. It does take a good > > > doctor who understands the hormonal dance that is going on, and > I > > > think he does. > > > > > > > > Patty > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, > your > > > story. > > > > Play Sims Stories at Games. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2007 Report Share Posted May 21, 2007 Patty, I would just like to say thank you for thinking of us and giving us the chance to ask questions... Lynn > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > Dear group, > > > >>>>>>>>> > > I just got off the phone with a very, very nice man. > >I got put > > > >>>>>>>> > in touch with him when I called Diagnos-Techs in > >regards to concerns > > > >>>>>>>> > about my adrenal hormone, thyroid and sex hormone tests > >and > > > >>>>>>>> > results. He is on the Board of Directors for Diagnos- > >Techs. > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > I found him to be very warm and personable, and he > >understands > > > >>>>>>>> > adrenal issues! It looks like he is in the state of > >Oregon, but he > > > >>>>>>>> > does consultations worldwide, if anyone is interested > >in consulting > > > >>>>>>>> > with him. > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > <http://www.drmarkrhodes.com/>http://www.drmarkrhodes.com/ > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > Basically, he looked at my results with me, and > >shared that he > > > >>>>>>>> > did not believe I was in Stage 7 adrenal fatigue. He > >said it's more > > > >>>>>>>> > like Stage 4 or 5. The clue was my first cortisol > >reading in the > > > >>>>>>>> > morning. My cortisol is not flatlined, like in the > >stage 7 graph. > > > >>>>>>>> > It has a relatively good production of cortisol in the > >morning > > > >>>>>>>> > (compared to the rest of the day, even though it is > >still low), so > > > >>>>>>>> > he said that shows my adrenals are not flat out > >exhausted. They are > > > >>>>>>>> > still producing, just not enough. > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > He also suggested that HC replacement therapy > >probably won't be > > > >>>>>>>> > necessary right now, but that my adrenals could be > >totally supported > > > >>>>>>>> > through herbs and nutritional supplements. Cortisol > >supplementation > > > >>>>>>>> > is to be used as a last resort, and even then, only > >temporarily. > > > >>>>>>>> > Even Isocort should be used carefully he said. The > >reason is > > > >>>>>>>> > because the brain is always monitoring what is going on > >with the > > > >>>>>>>> > hormones, and outside supplementation is going to throw > >it off, so > > > >>>>>>>> > that while we may feel better in the short term, in the > >long term, > > > >>>>>>>> > this affects us negatively. > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > He said my thyroid looks good. The only thing that > >was affected > > > >>>>>>>> > by the lag in the mail was my TSH, which actually still > >looks good. > > > >>>>>>>> > My TPO Antibodies was negative! He said that over time, > >some people > > > >>>>>>>> > with Hashimoto's can go negative permanently! So, I am > >excited > > > >>>>>>>> > about that, and I probably will do some additonal blood > >work to > > > >>>>>>>> > confirm whether or not my antibodies are indeed gone. > >I'll let you > > > >>>>>>>> > know. > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > All in all, my test results look fairly good. My > >thyroid is > > > >>>>>>>> > working well. My sex hormones are slightly deficient in > >ratio of > > > >>>>>>>> > progesterone to estrogen, (they should be 30:1 . Mine > >wa more like > > > >>>>>>>> > 18:1) even though each individual number is in the > >normal ranges. > > > >>>>>>>> > But he cautions heartily against transdermal creams for > >progesterone > > > >>>>>>>> > replacement, due to the fact that it can build up in > >the body. He > > > >>>>>>>> > recommends sublinguals instead. > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > He does have supplements available through his > >practice. > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > I'm really glad I got to talk to him. It assuaged my > >upset > > > >>>>>>>> > about the timing issues of my test, and revealed that > >it really > > > >>>>>>>> > wasn't that bad of a test result overall. In the > >future, if I > > > >>>>>>>> > retest, I will definitely overnight it. > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > So, the bottom line is that while the test results > >can give you > > > >>>>>>>> > a picture of your hormone health, there is some > >interpretation that > > > >>>>>>>> > needs to be done to tell the whole picture. It does > >take a good > > > >>>>>>>> > doctor who understands the hormonal dance that is going > >on, and I > > > >>>>>>>> > think he does. > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > Patty > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > --------------------------------- > > > >>>>>>>>> > > Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - > >their life, your > > > >>>>>>>> > story. > > > >>>>>>>>> > > Play Sims Stories at Games. > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > __________________________________________________ > > > >>>>>>>> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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