Re: My Consultation

July 12, 2000

,

I am so glad you are going to see Dr. Berger. If he confirms what your RE

said then I would consider that to be true, however, I REALLY doubt that you

cannot be helped and I am confident that Dr. Berger will give you good

medical advice and treatment. Your insurance should cover the Ashermans

treatment as it is medically necessary and Dr. Berger will write a letter

supporting that is need be.

Celeste

July 12, 2000

- I think you're right. I think it may be time to say goodbye to

this doctor and get a second opinion. I am always suspicious of a doctor

that says " I'll do this if you want but it's not going to work " . I need a

physician with a little more faith than that!

As for the insurance issues....I don't know what to tell you. Maybe try to

look at this as a financial decision wherein you're going to spend " X "

amount of dollars and you need to decide what is the best way to spend them?

On another attempt to restore your uterus and IVF? On adoption? On a trip to

Jamaica? I don't know, it's all a matter of where you and your husband are

in terms of a family. And I know that looking at this as a financial

decision

is probably impossible as it's NOT just financial but deeply emotional as

well. Do you have other children? How important is it to you

to have a biological child at this point? A lot of questions to work

through I know....

Hang in there. If I can help you reason through different options let me

know.

Gwen

My Consultation

>Hi Everybody,

>

>I went to my RE today to speak to him about what is are next step.

>He is pushing the surrogacy issue, but said he would try another

>lap/hyster if that is what I wanted. When I asked him about putting

>in a balloon or interceed he said that the type of scar tissues I had

>that they would not help. My scar tissue is not criss crossed from

>one side of the uterus to the other. He also said that even if he

>did another surgery that he did not think he would be very

>successful. I talked things over with my OB/GYN that I work for and

>he gave me his opinion, he thinks that is bull about the balloon not

>helping. So right now I feel like I just don't know who to trust and

>believe. Even if my uterus is able to be fixed I would still have to

>do IVF to conceive because of a tubal factor. Then of course I have

>the whole financial issue of all this because my insurance will not

>cover anything. So I can't make up my mind about anything until I go

>see Dr. Berger on July 28, but I think the doctor I saw today is out

>of the picture.

>

>Take care,

>

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July 12, 2000

-Celeste,

Thanks for the info, but my insurance will not cover anything

because I don't have out-of-network benefits. The fee for Dr. Berger

really isn't bad but when you add IVF on top of it that is what

worries me, because there are no grantees that it will even work.

But I guess that is a chance I will have to take.

-- In Ashermansegroups, celjim@a... wrote:

> ,

>

> I am so glad you are going to see Dr. Berger. If he confirms what

your RE

> said then I would consider that to be true, however, I REALLY doubt

that you

> cannot be helped and I am confident that Dr. Berger will give you

good

> medical advice and treatment. Your insurance should cover the

Ashermans

> treatment as it is medically necessary and Dr. Berger will write a

letter

> supporting that is need be.

>

> Celeste

July 12, 2000

Gwen,

I do have a 3 yr old little boy, who is wonderful. I think that is

why I really want to have another biological child so bad. Not that

adoption is out of the question, but right now I have to exhaust all

my options to have a biological child first, even though I know

surrogacy or adoption would probably be the way to go. Anyway I will

wait and see what Dr. Berger has to say and make me desicion after

that.

Anyway, I am very sorry for your pain, unfortunatly we all have it

and that is why we have this support group. Let me know if I can

help you will any questions you might have.

Take care,

Gwen

> - I think you're right. I think it may be time to say

goodbye to

> this doctor and get a second opinion. I am always suspicious of a

doctor

> that says " I'll do this if you want but it's not going to work " . I

need a

> physician with a little more faith than that!

>

> As for the insurance issues....I don't know what to tell you. Maybe

try to

> look at this as a financial decision wherein you're going to

spend " X "

> amount of dollars and you need to decide what is the best way to

spend them?

> On another attempt to restore your uterus and IVF? On adoption? On

a trip to

> Jamaica? I don't know, it's all a matter of where you and your

husband are

> in terms of a family. And I know that looking at this as a financial

> decision

> is probably impossible as it's NOT just financial but deeply

emotional as

> well. Do you have other children? How important is it to you

> to have a biological child at this point? A lot of questions to

work

> through I know....

>

> Hang in there. If I can help you reason through different options

let me

> know.

>

> Gwen

> My Consultation

>

> >Hi Everybody,

> >

> >I went to my RE today to speak to him about what is are next step.

> >He is pushing the surrogacy issue, but said he would try another

> >lap/hyster if that is what I wanted. When I asked him about

putting

> >in a balloon or interceed he said that the type of scar tissues I

had

> >that they would not help. My scar tissue is not criss crossed from

> >one side of the uterus to the other. He also said that even if he

> >did another surgery that he did not think he would be very

> >successful. I talked things over with my OB/GYN that I work for

and

> >he gave me his opinion, he thinks that is bull about the balloon

not

> >helping. So right now I feel like I just don't know who to trust

and

> >believe. Even if my uterus is able to be fixed I would still have

to

> >do IVF to conceive because of a tubal factor. Then of course I

have

> >the whole financial issue of all this because my insurance will not

> >cover anything. So I can't make up my mind about anything until I

go

> >see Dr. Berger on July 28, but I think the doctor I saw today is

out

> >of the picture.

> >

> >Take care,

> >

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July 12, 2000

,

I don't like the sound of this doctor either! I hate being pushed, and anyway is your ashermans that bad that there is no chance at all? Thought about changing doctors?

You have made me understand one thing (I think). You know I was querying the other day if adhesions and scar tissue are the same or different things and you told me you asked and were told they are the same, well, I have just realised that maybe the adhesions are the type that you spoke about in your email being criss crossed across from one side of the uterus to the other which can sometime make the uterus "adhere".

, I am going to ask you to answer some questions for me for this spreadsheet. I know you may have told me before but I don't have time to look through past emails and you know how confusing it is to remember everyone's info.

Please confirm that you have had so far one laparoscopy and operative hysteroscopy only.

And that he did not use any sort of balloon in this surgery.

Did you have any placenta remains when you gave birth and did you have an infection?

Have you been told where you have adhesions and scar tissue. I mean both uterus and cervix? Is your cavity open now? Do you know the measurement of your endometrium. Is it continuous or in islets?

Thanks.

Poly

July 12, 2000

,

I agree that this doctor is history. You need to have a doctor who knows

what they are doing and can help you make an informed decision. I wish you

the best of luck with your upcoming appoinment with Dr. Berger. I pray that

he can help you and be more informative.

My prayers are with you!

Tina

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