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Bonnie,

Oh my can I relate to what you are saying. I am the parent of a

19 year old very complicated CHARGE'r. I have a lot of unrest about his future

and what will be available to him. At this point it is also very stressful to

parents because we are a bit " burnt out " so to speak. As far as the labels

go...... Mark is currently SXI this has served him the best in the educational

aspect. Because he is MULTIPLY impaired without a doubt. I try not to put a

whole lot of emphasis on the label itself just what services he is entitled too.

I

have had to fight very hard at times too. I have a lot of trouble with

" behaviors " now that he is older it is much harder. Our lives are so limited

because

of his constant needs it is a bit overwhelming to say the least. I really

feel for you because Mark is the same way about structure. Please keep us

posted.

The SYSTEM seems to be very hard to navigate and you have to constantly check

on what has been done it is very sad.

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Bonnie I am so sorry you and your family have to go through all this. Tell

pat to hang in there we are praying it will all work out and soon. and hshe

has the best team working for her--you and paul and a.

hugs going your way!!!

maria and the guys

Transition goof-ups

> Ready for the next news? After meeting Pat at the conference I am sure

most

> of you know she was going to be attending the Helen Keller National Center

> this month. I could not be more proud of her. We had worked out all the

> criteria, paperwork, ect, and the sponsoring agency last year (the year

from hell)

> before she graduated. This was her transitional program.

> When we got home from the conference the Bureau of Rehab Services

who

> was supposed to be the sponsoring agency got back in touch with us. See

the

> man who was supposed to fill out the paper work before she graduated

suddenly

> retired, didn't do a single bit of the paperwork and no one at BRS knew of

Pat

> at that agency. This paperwork was supposed to be done by May while she

was

> still in school! We finally thought we had worked everything out before

the

> conference. Now sadly not so. In my opinion none of this is really about

what

> is best for Patty but either personal conflicts and/or financial

situations.

> Our state has a Governor who has cut programs like a monster. Everyone is

> hurt. I think that's why BRS didn't want her.

> I understand but still am frustrated beyond belief. Along with all

> the meetings last year we also had to fight to get her qualified as

disabled for

> SSI. It took at least 10 months and numerous calls and doctors

appointments.

> So now, BRS wanted all that information. With that supposedly Pats

vision,

> which has never really been clearly understood, might now be worse than we

> thought. Who knows and so what? She still has the social needs, she

still has

> the vocational needs, she still has the organizational needs. It's more

than

> just her vision and more than just her hearing. There is so much more to

Pat

> and CHARGE. BRS sounded like they cared and I am sure they did, they just

> didn't want this complicated person. Anyway, they tried to get the Board

of Ed

> Services for the Blind (BESB) involved. I have to say BESB has been the

only

> program in her life that worked and did well for Pat. So, through more

> bureaucratic junk BRS got out of it somehow and now BESB is back involved.

Now BESB is

> her only service provider. Because she graduated she is now an adult.

This

> was my mistake I let happen because I thought this was all set and done

> because we knew staying in our home school district would be a living hell

for her.

> Adult services at BESB don't know her or what has been going on. Now she

is

> dropped back in their laps. We have to do it all again. Plus, Pat has an

> appointment for and ERG to figure out what is going on with her vision.

They want

> to wait till after the ERG which is Sept 18th! We need to know her

vision...

>

> I understand BESB wanting to do the right thing. And they DO care.

> They suddenly got Patty back. Pat was visually impaired before, now

somehow it

> changed. I just don't understand how Pat could graduate, with a

transition

> program all set and then have it ripped from under her because one person

> didn't file the papers as IS STATED IN HER LAST IEP! And by the way, this

person

> is friends with the very same people I battled with sometimes harshly here

in

> this school system. I believe he did all of this on purpose knowing it

would

> mess things up. This is the same man who said it would have been easier

if I

> just let her be labeled mentally disabled.

> So now Patty isn't going on the 11th. She has already packed

most

> of her things. You wouldn't believe the stress this is putting her and us

> through. Her tics from her Tourettes are back big time. I don't think

she'll

> be going till Oct. Remember Pat is a person with CHARGE who needs

structure,

> and there is this big open hole in her life. With all this how can I tell

her

> she will defiantly be going?

> Guys, the reason this is happening, from the beginning, is because

> CHARGE isn't understood. BRS even had to look it up on the computer. Our

own

> Country does not have a deaf/blind label. So, no one knows which program

she

> should be under. The only provider within this state-ever-who has it

together

> is BESB. And now it is back in their laps. Why are they the ONLY service

> provider responsible? Why then can't they work together? This is

sickening.

> Along with that I thought I could finally be just a mother and

happy

> with the next step their child is making. That joy flew out the window.

We

> also have been making changes in our own lives, or I should say finally

moving

> forward with our lives. That is put on hold too. It is frustrating.

> I'm telling everyone because all of your children will bet older

one

> day and might be going through the same. We have to get deaf/blind as an

adult

> disability. It won't be so hard then.

> So here is my speech. All of the families here really need to

> register their children as deaf/blind if that is appropriate. When I said

in the

> other posts I won't let anyone label Pat as what she's not, part of that

is

> because the information is used sometimes to get out of things. If we had

her as

> any other disability she would have been forced to attend a program here

which

> is not appropriate for her. That's why I fight labels. It pigeon holes

> people. So, along with registering our children as deaf/blind each and

every one

> of us should be a member of the CHARGE foundation. It only costs around

15 to

> 20 dollars a family per year. That's where you make the beginning of the

> change. Though a FAMILY of people. We through CHARGE are a family.

>

> Back to the phone calls.................

>

> Bonnie Mom to Kris 20, Pat CHARGE 18 and scared, and wife to

>

>

>

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Bonnie,

Have you contacted the folks at HKNC and asked for help? They may be very

familiar with this kind of situation and have some sage advice. Good luck!

Betsy

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Hi Bonnie,

I know that Patty has to be extremely disappointed. However, perhaps you

could find a wayh to structure the time. Can you try to present it as more

time with you before her life changes completely, a fun time with family? If

not, could you use the time perhaps to work with her on something she needs

help with? You know what she needs more than I do, so I have no suggestion

on what this would be.

There is going to have to be some lobbying done with the U. S. Senate and

Congress to either get CHARGE Syndrome listed as a disability with the

Social Security Administration or get Deaf-Blind listed as one, or both.

Kay

Transition goof-ups

> Ready for the next news? After meeting Pat at the conference I am sure

most

> of you know she was going to be attending the Helen Keller National Center

> this month. I could not be more proud of her. We had worked out all the

> criteria, paperwork, ect, and the sponsoring agency last year (the year

from hell)

> before she graduated. This was her transitional program.

> When we got home from the conference the Bureau of Rehab Services

who

> was supposed to be the sponsoring agency got back in touch with us. See

the

> man who was supposed to fill out the paper work before she graduated

suddenly

> retired, didn't do a single bit of the paperwork and no one at BRS knew of

Pat

> at that agency. This paperwork was supposed to be done by May while she

was

> still in school! We finally thought we had worked everything out before

the

> conference. Now sadly not so. In my opinion none of this is really about

what

> is best for Patty but either personal conflicts and/or financial

situations.

> Our state has a Governor who has cut programs like a monster. Everyone is

> hurt. I think that's why BRS didn't want her.

> I understand but still am frustrated beyond belief. Along with all

> the meetings last year we also had to fight to get her qualified as

disabled for

> SSI. It took at least 10 months and numerous calls and doctors

appointments.

> So now, BRS wanted all that information. With that supposedly Pats

vision,

> which has never really been clearly understood, might now be worse than we

> thought. Who knows and so what? She still has the social needs, she

still has

> the vocational needs, she still has the organizational needs. It's more

than

> just her vision and more than just her hearing. There is so much more to

Pat

> and CHARGE. BRS sounded like they cared and I am sure they did, they just

> didn't want this complicated person. Anyway, they tried to get the Board

of Ed

> Services for the Blind (BESB) involved. I have to say BESB has been the

only

> program in her life that worked and did well for Pat. So, through more

> bureaucratic junk BRS got out of it somehow and now BESB is back involved.

Now BESB is

> her only service provider. Because she graduated she is now an adult.

This

> was my mistake I let happen because I thought this was all set and done

> because we knew staying in our home school district would be a living hell

for her.

> Adult services at BESB don't know her or what has been going on. Now she

is

> dropped back in their laps. We have to do it all again. Plus, Pat has an

> appointment for and ERG to figure out what is going on with her vision.

They want

> to wait till after the ERG which is Sept 18th! We need to know her

vision...

>

> I understand BESB wanting to do the right thing. And they DO care.

> They suddenly got Patty back. Pat was visually impaired before, now

somehow it

> changed. I just don't understand how Pat could graduate, with a

transition

> program all set and then have it ripped from under her because one person

> didn't file the papers as IS STATED IN HER LAST IEP! And by the way, this

person

> is friends with the very same people I battled with sometimes harshly here

in

> this school system. I believe he did all of this on purpose knowing it

would

> mess things up. This is the same man who said it would have been easier

if I

> just let her be labeled mentally disabled.

> So now Patty isn't going on the 11th. She has already packed

most

> of her things. You wouldn't believe the stress this is putting her and us

> through. Her tics from her Tourettes are back big time. I don't think

she'll

> be going till Oct. Remember Pat is a person with CHARGE who needs

structure,

> and there is this big open hole in her life. With all this how can I tell

her

> she will defiantly be going?

> Guys, the reason this is happening, from the beginning, is because

> CHARGE isn't understood. BRS even had to look it up on the computer. Our

own

> Country does not have a deaf/blind label. So, no one knows which program

she

> should be under. The only provider within this state-ever-who has it

together

> is BESB. And now it is back in their laps. Why are they the ONLY service

> provider responsible? Why then can't they work together? This is

sickening.

> Along with that I thought I could finally be just a mother and

happy

> with the next step their child is making. That joy flew out the window.

We

> also have been making changes in our own lives, or I should say finally

moving

> forward with our lives. That is put on hold too. It is frustrating.

> I'm telling everyone because all of your children will bet older

one

> day and might be going through the same. We have to get deaf/blind as an

adult

> disability. It won't be so hard then.

> So here is my speech. All of the families here really need to

> register their children as deaf/blind if that is appropriate. When I said

in the

> other posts I won't let anyone label Pat as what she's not, part of that

is

> because the information is used sometimes to get out of things. If we had

her as

> any other disability she would have been forced to attend a program here

which

> is not appropriate for her. That's why I fight labels. It pigeon holes

> people. So, along with registering our children as deaf/blind each and

every one

> of us should be a member of the CHARGE foundation. It only costs around

15 to

> 20 dollars a family per year. That's where you make the beginning of the

> change. Though a FAMILY of people. We through CHARGE are a family.

>

> Back to the phone calls.................

>

> Bonnie Mom to Kris 20, Pat CHARGE 18 and scared, and wife to

>

>

>

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Bonnie: We've recently been told by Perkins that should go to Helen

Keller when she graduates from Watertown. Has Helen Keller been supportive?

I'm scared like the devil from your post. Martha

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Kay,

I have scheduled the next week for Pat, thanks. I emphatically agree

that we need a definition of CHARGE or deaf/blind as a listed and defined

disability. But I think we have to talk with n, Meg and about how

to

go about doing that. CHARGE Foundation has been in their hands from the very

beginning and that is where absolutely everything should stay. I also think

lobbying can't be done just by lobbyists and/or parents but by individuals who

have CHARGE or are deaf/blind themselves. So what are you doing in the next

few years? Think about it

Bonnie

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Well, let's see. In September I'm going to Florida where Smokey will be

presented with prizes for being the 2003 Florida Hall of Fame hero of the

year. I guess that's a beginning.

Kay

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> Kay,

>

> I have scheduled the next week for Pat, thanks. I emphatically

agree

> that we need a definition of CHARGE or deaf/blind as a listed and defined

> disability. But I think we have to talk with n, Meg and about

how to

> go about doing that. CHARGE Foundation has been in their hands from the

very

> beginning and that is where absolutely everything should stay. I also

think

> lobbying can't be done just by lobbyists and/or parents but by individuals

who

> have CHARGE or are deaf/blind themselves. So what are you doing in the

next

> few years? Think about it

>

>

> Bonnie

>

>

>

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I have been up with for many, many, many hours, but I must post; if I

don't make sense, just write to me tomorrow. , n, etc.are not the

only ones who will help us. Mike and others in the Hilton-Perkins

program have been this route many, mnay times. Hilton-Perkins is distinct

from the school. They have been very active at each re-authorization of IDEA

- and have been successful. More when I feel more sane. Martha

Please don't forget that others are already fighting for the deafbind

diagnosis and have done so for years. Perhaps we need to learn how to use

what they've already done.

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