Re: Anxiety

June 6, 2007

Laurel

I suppose many of us resort to serotin enhanchers plus keeping busy and talking on the group and to other goos listeners. Keep posting!

B

Anxiety

Hi everyone, I have not written a post asking for support in quite a while. Most of my recent posts have been in support of proton therapy.My husband Gregg who was treated for his prostate cancer at Loma the first 3 months of this year was also diagnosed and treated for low grade, superficial bladder cancer the latter part of 2005. Gregg goes for bladder scope on June 11. His most recent scope was 6 months ago and it was clear. He had to have his bladder checked before he left for his 9 weeks in Loma . At that time his bladder was cancer free. I do not know what we would have done if the bladder cancer had recurred. Bladder cancer has a nasty habit of recurring. Statistically it comes back in the first 2 years, so this appointment is a milestone of sorts. Gregg will also have his first post treatment PSA. I will let you all know what the result of that is.I am having a pretty hard time keeping a lid on my anxiety. I am wondering what some of you do to help yourselves cope. I am very grateful for each and every day but did have a hard time today with my racing thoughts and fears. This group is a wonderful source of support and I thought that this is a perfect time to ask for some. Love, Laurel

June 6, 2007

Hi again Laurel:

I thought about sending this to you off forum, but decided to post it,

just in case it may help someone else.

I have had several periods during my life when anxiety was a terrible

factor, and once it probably resulted in a stroke; this involved the

stress of the death of a much loved relative and long drives without

much rest or sleep. The second period that I now recognize as most

stressful was the period after the diagnosis of prostate cancer.

My recommendations are:

Try some form of exercise (such as long walks) or anything that is

physically tiring. this will help in promoting sleep, which you may be

finding difficult because of the anxiety. Rest and sleep are very

important!

If you can do walks outdoors, or bike rides (bicycles, not

motorcycles) try to observe the beauties of nature and concentrate on

the details of something that you observe. When you get home, write

down a description of what you saw that gave you pleasure. Walking is

better because you can more easily stop and observe the beautiful

small things.

It may seem like a form of escape (and it is) but find a good book and

try to lose yourself in the reading of it. If you become really

interested in it, the anxious thoughts will be gone for at least a while.

Realize that others have gone through periods of high anxiety with

even worse situations than that which you are now facing, and

survived. You can too, and with the help of God, yourself, and others,

you will!

Finally, here is one of my favorite quotations, " Desiderata: "

Pick from it what you need. My favorite in the case of anxiety is:

" Take kindly the counsel of the years,

gracefully surrendering the things of youth.

Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune.

But do not distress yourself with dark imaginings.

Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness.

Beyond a wholesome discipline,

be gentle with yourself. "

" Desiderata

Go placidly amid the noise and haste,

and remember what peace there may be in silence.

As far as possible without surrender

be on good terms with all persons.

Speak your truth quietly and clearly;

and listen to others,

even the dull and the ignorant;

they too have their story.

Avoid loud and aggressive persons,

they are vexations to the spirit.

If you compare yourself with others,

you may become vain and bitter;

for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself.

Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans.

Keep interested in your own career, however humble;

it is a real possession in the changing fortunes of time.

Exercise caution in your business affairs;

for the world is full of trickery.

But let this not blind you to what virtue there is;

many persons strive for high ideals;

and everywhere life is full of heroism.

Be yourself.

Especially, do not feign affection.

Neither be cynical about love;

for in the face of all aridity and disenchantment

it is as perennial as the grass.

Take kindly the counsel of the years,

gracefully surrendering the things of youth.

Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune.

But do not distress yourself with dark imaginings.

Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness.

Beyond a wholesome discipline,

be gentle with yourself.

You are a child of the universe,

no less than the trees and the stars;

you have a right to be here.

And whether or not it is clear to you,

no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should.

Therefore be at peace with God,

whatever you conceive Him to be,

and whatever your labors and aspirations,

in the noisy confusion of life keep peace with your soul.

With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams,

it is still a beautiful world.

Be cheerful.

Strive to be happy. "

>

> Hi everyone, I have not written a post asking for support in quite a

> while. Most of my recent posts have been in support of proton therapy.

>

> My husband Gregg who was treated for his prostate cancer at Loma

> the first 3 months of this year was also diagnosed and treated

> for low grade, superficial bladder cancer the latter part of 2005.

> Gregg goes for bladder scope on June 11. His most recent scope was 6

> months ago and it was clear. He had to have his bladder checked

> before he left for his 9 weeks in Loma . At that time his

> bladder was cancer free. I do not know what we would have done if the

> bladder cancer had recurred. Bladder cancer has a nasty habit of

> recurring. Statistically it comes back in the first 2 years, so this

> appointment is a milestone of sorts. Gregg will also have his first

> post treatment PSA. I will let you all know what the result of that

> is.I am having a pretty hard time keeping a lid on my anxiety. I am

> wondering what some of you do to help yourselves cope. I am very

> grateful for each and every day but did have a hard time today with

> my racing thoughts and fears. This group is a wonderful source of

> support and I thought that this is a perfect time to ask for some.

>

> Love, Laurel

>

June 6, 2007

Laurel - I do know how you feel. My husband also just got his PSA

results and they showed no change after 6 months of chemo. He has

already gone through surgery, radiation and the hormone therapy. I

am quite concerned because if the chemo is no longer helping - what

is next? My husband is only 57 years old. The only way I cope is by

prayer. I know that it is hard on our husbands - but it is also

difficult to watch them go through all this. I will be praying for

you and your husband. If possible, let me know the results of his

psa. I am interested. God bless you - Kathy

>

> Hi everyone, I have not written a post asking for support in quite

a

> while. Most of my recent posts have been in support of proton

therapy.

>

> My husband Gregg who was treated for his prostate cancer at Loma

> the first 3 months of this year was also diagnosed and

treated

> for low grade, superficial bladder cancer the latter part of 2005.

> Gregg goes for bladder scope on June 11. His most recent scope was

6

> months ago and it was clear. He had to have his bladder checked

> before he left for his 9 weeks in Loma . At that time his

> bladder was cancer free. I do not know what we would have done if

the

> bladder cancer had recurred. Bladder cancer has a nasty habit of

> recurring. Statistically it comes back in the first 2 years, so

this

> appointment is a milestone of sorts. Gregg will also have his first

> post treatment PSA. I will let you all know what the result of that

> is.I am having a pretty hard time keeping a lid on my anxiety. I am

> wondering what some of you do to help yourselves cope. I am very

> grateful for each and every day but did have a hard time today with

> my racing thoughts and fears. This group is a wonderful source of

> support and I thought that this is a perfect time to ask for some.

>

> Love, Laurel

>

June 6, 2007

THAT, was quite wonderful.

Thankyou.

Hughie

Re: Anxiety

Hi again Laurel:I thought about sending this to you off forum, but decided to post it,just in case it may help someone else.I have had several periods during my life when anxiety was a terriblefactor, and once it probably resulted in a stroke; this involved thestress of the death of a much loved relative and long drives withoutmuch rest or sleep. The second period that I now recognize as moststressful was the period after the diagnosis of prostate cancer.My recommendations are:Try some form of exercise (such as long walks) or anything that isphysically tiring. this will help in promoting sleep, which you may befinding difficult because of the anxiety. Rest and sleep are veryimportant!If you can do walks outdoors, or bike rides (bicycles, notmotorcycles) try to observe the beauties of nature and concentrate onthe details of something that you observe. When you get home, writedown a description of what you saw that gave you pleasure. Walking isbetter because you can more easily stop and observe the beautifulsmall things.It may seem like a form of escape (and it is) but find a good book andtry to lose yourself in the reading of it. If you become reallyinterested in it, the anxious thoughts will be gone for at least a while.Realize that others have gone through periods of high anxiety witheven worse situations than that which you are now facing, andsurvived. You can too, and with the help of God, yourself, and others,you will!Finally, here is one of my favorite quotations, "Desiderata:"Pick from it what you need. My favorite in the case of anxiety is:"Take kindly the counsel of the years,gracefully surrendering the things of youth.Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune.But do not distress yourself with dark imaginings.Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness.Beyond a wholesome discipline,be gentle with yourself. ""Desiderata Go placidly amid the noise and haste,and remember what peace there may be in silence.As far as possible without surrenderbe on good terms with all persons.Speak your truth quietly and clearly;and listen to others,even the dull and the ignorant;they too have their story. Avoid loud and aggressive persons,they are vexations to the spirit.If you compare yourself with others,you may become vain and bitter;for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself.Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans. Keep interested in your own career, however humble;it is a real possession in the changing fortunes of time.Exercise caution in your business affairs;for the world is full of trickery.But let this not blind you to what virtue there is;many persons strive for high ideals;and everywhere life is full of heroism. Be yourself.Especially, do not feign affection.Neither be cynical about love;for in the face of all aridity and disenchantmentit is as perennial as the grass. Take kindly the counsel of the years,gracefully surrendering the things of youth.Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune.But do not distress yourself with dark imaginings.Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness.Beyond a wholesome discipline,be gentle with yourself. You are a child of the universe,no less than the trees and the stars;you have a right to be here.And whether or not it is clear to you,no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should. Therefore be at peace with God,whatever you conceive Him to be,and whatever your labors and aspirations,in the noisy confusion of life keep peace with your soul. With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams,it is still a beautiful world.Be cheerful.Strive to be happy." Max Ehrmann, Desiderata, Copyright 1952.>> Hi everyone, I have not written a post asking for support in quite a > while. Most of my recent posts have been in support of proton therapy.> > My husband Gregg who was treated for his prostate cancer at Loma > the first 3 months of this year was also diagnosed and treated > for low grade, superficial bladder cancer the latter part of 2005. > Gregg goes for bladder scope on June 11. His most recent scope was 6 > months ago and it was clear. He had to have his bladder checked > before he left for his 9 weeks in Loma . At that time his > bladder was cancer free. I do not know what we would have done if the > bladder cancer had recurred. Bladder cancer has a nasty habit of > recurring. Statistically it comes back in the first 2 years, so this > appointment is a milestone of sorts. Gregg will also have his first > post treatment PSA. I will let you all know what the result of that > is.I am having a pretty hard time keeping a lid on my anxiety. I am > wondering what some of you do to help yourselves cope. I am very > grateful for each and every day but did have a hard time today with > my racing thoughts and fears. This group is a wonderful source of > support and I thought that this is a perfect time to ask for some. > > Love, Laurel>

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June 6, 2007

I try to cope by keeping busy, long walks with my dog, enjoying nature, prayer, talking with family members and sometimes crying. I have never used prescription medication until lately. I do sometimes take half a xanax at night when the worries just won't stop. Sharonski_kathy wrote: Laurel - I do know how you feel. My husband also just got his PSA results and they showed no change after 6 months of chemo. He has already gone through surgery, radiation and the hormone therapy. I

am quite concerned because if the chemo is no longer helping - what is next? My husband is only 57 years old. The only way I cope is by prayer. I know that it is hard on our husbands - but it is also difficult to watch them go through all this. I will be praying for you and your husband. If possible, let me know the results of his psa. I am interested. God bless you - Kathy>> Hi everyone, I have not written a post asking for support in quite a > while. Most of my recent posts have been in support of proton therapy.> > My husband Gregg who was treated for his prostate cancer at Loma > the first 3 months of this year was also diagnosed and treated > for low grade, superficial bladder cancer the latter part of

2005. > Gregg goes for bladder scope on June 11. His most recent scope was 6 > months ago and it was clear. He had to have his bladder checked > before he left for his 9 weeks in Loma . At that time his > bladder was cancer free. I do not know what we would have done if the > bladder cancer had recurred. Bladder cancer has a nasty habit of > recurring. Statistically it comes back in the first 2 years, so this > appointment is a milestone of sorts. Gregg will also have his first > post treatment PSA. I will let you all know what the result of that > is.I am having a pretty hard time keeping a lid on my anxiety. I am > wondering what some of you do to help yourselves cope. I am very > grateful for each and every day but did have a hard time today with > my racing thoughts and fears. This group is a wonderful source of > support and I thought that this is a perfect time

to ask for some. > > Love, Laurel>

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Laurel and Kathy,

One thing to remember is that if the chemo

has stopped the increase in PSA it is probably having some effect. You might

want to investigate various clinical trials at this point. There are some

promising treatments in the pipeline. Check first for phase 3 trials. I just

saw a friend on Monday who appears to have a complete response so far with a trial

he was in 3 years ago..

Kathy

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Re: Anxiety

Laurel

- I do know how you feel. My husband also just got his PSA

results and they showed no change after 6 months of chemo. He has

already gone through surgery, radiation and the hormone therapy. I

am quite concerned because if the chemo is no longer helping - what

is next? My husband is only 57 years old. The only way I cope is by

prayer. I know that it is hard on our husbands - but it is also

difficult to watch them go through all this. I will be praying for

you and your husband. If possible, let me know the results of his

psa. I am interested. God bless you - Kathy

>

> Hi everyone, I have not written a post asking for support in quite

a

> while. Most of my recent posts have been in support of proton

therapy.

>

> My husband Gregg who was treated for his prostate cancer at Loma

> the first 3 months of this year was also diagnosed and

treated

> for low grade, superficial bladder cancer the latter part of 2005.

> Gregg goes for bladder scope on June 11. His most recent scope was

6

> months ago and it was clear. He had to have his bladder checked

> before he left for his 9 weeks in Loma . At that time his

> bladder was cancer free. I do not know what we would have done if

the

> bladder cancer had recurred. Bladder cancer has a nasty habit of

> recurring. Statistically it comes back in the first 2 years, so

this

> appointment is a milestone of sorts. Gregg will also have his first

> post treatment PSA. I will let you all know what the result of that

> is.I am having a pretty hard time keeping a lid on my anxiety. I am

> wondering what some of you do to help yourselves cope. I am very

> grateful for each and every day but did have a hard time today with

> my racing thoughts and fears. This group is a wonderful source of

> support and I thought that this is a perfect time to ask for some.

>

> Love, Laurel

>

June 6, 2007

-

Laurel:

I'm no expert in most things, but I do know something about Clinical

Depression. I've been on all the MAOI's and SSRI's known to medicine:

Prozac, Lithium, Elevil, Zoloft, you name them. My insurance probably

paid the Research & Development costs for Lily and Pfizer several

times. But Mental Activity and Physical exercise are probably the

best cure. My Mother, who lived to be 91, never took anti-depressants

in her life; her " anxiety relief " was Gardening.

-- In ProstateCancerSupport , " Metcalf "

wrote:

>

> Laurel

>

> I suppose many of us resort to serotin enhanchers plus keeping busy

and talking on the group and to other goos listeners. Keep posting!

>

> B

> Anxiety

>

> Hi everyone, I have not written a post asking for support in

quite a

> while. Most of my recent posts have been in support of proton

therapy.

>

> My husband Gregg who was treated for his prostate cancer at Loma

> the first 3 months of this year was also diagnosed and

treated

> for low grade, superficial bladder cancer the latter part of

2005.

> Gregg goes for bladder scope on June 11. His most recent scope

was 6

> months ago and it was clear. He had to have his bladder checked

> before he left for his 9 weeks in Loma . At that time his

> bladder was cancer free. I do not know what we would have done if

the

> bladder cancer had recurred. Bladder cancer has a nasty habit of

> recurring. Statistically it comes back in the first 2 years, so

this

> appointment is a milestone of sorts. Gregg will also have his

first

> post treatment PSA. I will let you all know what the result of

that

> is.I am having a pretty hard time keeping a lid on my anxiety. I

am

> wondering what some of you do to help yourselves cope. I am very

> grateful for each and every day but did have a hard time today

with

> my racing thoughts and fears. This group is a wonderful source of

> support and I thought that this is a perfect time to ask for

some.

>

> Love, Laurel

>

June 6, 2007

Kathy - thanks - you just gave me more hope in the future! I will

check into those phase 3 trials. thanks again - Kathy Mlynarski

> >

> > Hi everyone, I have not written a post asking for support in

quite

> a

> > while. Most of my recent posts have been in support of proton

> therapy.

> >

> > My husband Gregg who was treated for his prostate cancer at Loma

> > the first 3 months of this year was also diagnosed and

> treated

> > for low grade, superficial bladder cancer the latter part of

2005.

> > Gregg goes for bladder scope on June 11. His most recent scope

was

> 6

> > months ago and it was clear. He had to have his bladder checked

> > before he left for his 9 weeks in Loma . At that time his

> > bladder was cancer free. I do not know what we would have done if

> the

> > bladder cancer had recurred. Bladder cancer has a nasty habit of

> > recurring. Statistically it comes back in the first 2 years, so

> this

> > appointment is a milestone of sorts. Gregg will also have his

first

> > post treatment PSA. I will let you all know what the result of

that

> > is.I am having a pretty hard time keeping a lid on my anxiety. I

am

> > wondering what some of you do to help yourselves cope. I am very

> > grateful for each and every day but did have a hard time today

with

> > my racing thoughts and fears. This group is a wonderful source of

> > support and I thought that this is a perfect time to ask for

some.

> >

> > Love, Laurel

> >

>

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