Guest guest Posted July 16, 1998 Report Share Posted July 16, 1998 Hi Kayleigh > > Ive decided I was beong rather a jerk over that thing on > nlp-addict. i'm (almost)as stubborn as they are. One could > bait them for amusement value, but apart from being a > little immature, i guess it's cruel too. Thanks for > talking with me abt it. > Hi Pete, It is wise to remember sometimes that while you believe you are attacking a belief system, they believe you are attacking their identity. Regards, Kayleigh ----- Original Message: http://www.findmail.com/list/12-step-free/?start=320 Start a FREE email list at http://www.FindMail.com/ ---- Read this list on the Web at http://www.FindMail.com/list/12-step-free/ To unsubscribe, email to 12-step-free-unsubscribe@... To subscribe, email to 12-step-free-subscribe@... -- Start a FREE E-Mail List at http://makelist.com ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 1998 Report Share Posted July 20, 1998 Bette wrote: > Kayleigh, > Isn't that in large part because the belief system has *become* the identity. > Does this mean that people should walk on eggshells, and not challenge the > beliefs because it is taken personally? I do believe in trying to use some > degree of tact, which is probably why I used the word challenge instead of > attack. Nonetheless, I think if you really disagree with a belief system and > think it can cause harm, it is, IMO, appropriate to challenge those that help > perpetuate that system to re-evaluate their beliefs. You may get nowhere, but > then again......who knows? > > Bette > Well, you are entirely right, the belief system has become the identity. Hence, I think, Glenn S.'s insistence that anyone who didn't get clean in *A is not " really " an addict. And if you really believe that the belief system is doing harm and you have an obligation to help change it, it is the tact that is all-important. Confrontation simply makes people resist more. This, I think, is the reason that there is so much " denial " among addicts -- traditional wisdom holds that they must be confronted to break down their denial. I read a book about motivational interviewing for people with drinking problems and the authors report almost no " denial. " After all, if someone is seeking help for a drug problem, how bad can the denial be? Kayleigh ----- Original Message: http://www.findmail.com/list/12-step-free/?start=332 Start a FREE email list at http://www.FindMail.com/ ---- Read this list on the Web at http://www.FindMail.com/list/12-step-free/ To unsubscribe, email to 12-step-free-unsubscribe@... To subscribe, email to 12-step-free-subscribe@... -- Start a FREE E-Mail List at http://makelist.com ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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