Re: Not sleeping very long at night...

[Guest guest]

The jerking might be myoclonic jerks. Klonopin(the generic is clonazepam) might

help the jerks and also might help him sleep at night. Ask the doctor.

Lorraine

>

> Does anyone have experience with their loved one not sleeping much during the

night?  Lately we can't seem to keep my father-in-law, Butch, in bed for more

than 30 minutes or so at a time.  He is a modest man and every time he gets up,

he wants to put on pants and belt and does not want to wear sweats or something

more simple to put on.  A lot of the time lately, he will fall trying to get

them on and we hear him through the monitor.  When asked what he was doing up he

either says that he has to get to work, that the alarm woke him up, someone

honked a horn for him on the street or he doesn't remember. 

>

> He was up most of last night and is sleeping in his chair today on and off. 

But, I notice that he is jerking and jumping a lot.  Have any of you experienced

that and if so, what do you do for it?  He is exhausted but seems to be unable

to sleep much at all.

>

> Thanks for any ideas!

>

> Alisa, caregiver to FIL Butch, 73, DX LBD 3 years, PD 12 years

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

NEVER give these drugs for LBD, it will accelerate their life!

 

List of Neuroleptics

The public identifies most psychiatric drugs by their trade names-the

proprietary trademarks under which the companies own and market them. With

generic names in parentheses, a list of trade names of neuroleptics in use today

includes Haldol (haloperidol), Thorazine (chlorpromazine), Stelazine

(trifluoperazine), Vesprin (trifluopromazine), Mellaril (thiorldazine), Prolixin

or Permitil (fluphenazine), Navane (thiothixene), Trilafon (perphenazine),

Tindal (acetophenazine), Taractan (chlorprothixene), Loxitane or Daxolin

(loxapine), Moban or Lidone (molindone), Serenfil (mesoridazine), Orap

(pimozide), Quide (piperacetazine), Repoise (butaperazine), Compazine

(prochlorperazine), Dartal (thiopropazate), and Clozaril (clozapine).(1)

The antidepressant Asendin (amoxapine) turns into a neuroleptic when it is

metabolized in the body and should be considered a neuroleptic. Etrafon or

Triavil is a combination of a neuroleptic (perphenazine) and an antidepressant

(amitriptyline), and it combines the impact and the risks of both.

 

Jane

Subject: Re: Not sleeping very long at night...

To: LBDcaregivers

Received: Friday, November 27, 2009, 3:31 PM

 

The jerking might be myoclonic jerks. Klonopin(the generic is clonazepam) might

help the jerks and also might help him sleep at night. Ask the doctor.

Lorraine

>

> Does anyone have experience with their loved one not sleeping much during the

night?  Lately we can't seem to keep my father-in-law, Butch, in bed for more

than 30 minutes or so at a time.  He is a modest man and every time he gets up,

he wants to put on pants and belt and does not want to wear sweats or something

more simple to put on.  A lot of the time lately, he will fall trying to get

them on and we hear him through the monitor.  When asked what he was doing up

he either says that he has to get to work, that the alarm woke him up, someone

honked a horn for him on the street or he doesn't remember. 

>

> He was up most of last night and is sleeping in his chair today on and off. 

But, I notice that he is jerking and jumping a lot.  Have any of you

experienced that and if so, what do you do for it?  He is exhausted but seems

to be unable to sleep much at all.

>

> Thanks for any ideas!

>

> Alisa, caregiver to FIL Butch, 73, DX LBD 3 years, PD 12 years

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Alisa,

If he is taking any medications that make him drowsy perhaps you can give it to

him in the evening? Also, meds for AD like Aricept could be given in the

morning to help wake him up and keep him awake so that he'll sleep better at

night.

Best,

Courage

Not sleeping very long at night...

Does anyone have experience with their loved one not sleeping much during the

night? Lately we can't seem to keep my father-in-law, Butch, in bed for more

than 30 minutes or so at a time. He is a modest man and every time he gets up,

he wants to put on pants and belt and does not want to wear sweats or something

more simple to put on. A lot of the time lately, he will fall trying to get

them on and we hear him through the monitor. When asked what he was doing up he

either says that he has to get to work, that the alarm woke him up, someone

honked a horn for him on the street or he doesn't remember.

He was up most of last night and is sleeping in his chair today on and off.

But, I notice that he is jerking and jumping a lot. Have any of you experienced

that and if so, what do you do for it? He is exhausted but seems to be unable

to sleep much at all.

Thanks for any ideas!

Alisa, caregiver to FIL Butch, 73, DX LBD 3 years, PD 12 years

[Guest guest]

Alisa, it sounds like he is hallucinating. Have you tried a low dose of

Seroquel at bedtime? It can be upped slowly if a low dose doesn't help.

All the best in rectifying this situation. You all need your sleep to continue

this journey.

>

> Hi Alisa,

>

> If he is taking any medications that make him drowsy perhaps you can give it

to him in the evening? Also, meds for AD like Aricept could be given in the

morning to help wake him up and keep him awake so that he'll sleep better at

night.

> Best,

> Courage

>

> Not sleeping very long at night...

>

>

>

> Does anyone have experience with their loved one not sleeping much during

the night? Lately we can't seem to keep my father-in-law, Butch, in bed for

more than 30 minutes or so at a time. He is a modest man and every time he gets

up, he wants to put on pants and belt and does not want to wear sweats or

something more simple to put on. A lot of the time lately, he will fall trying

to get them on and we hear him through the monitor. When asked what he was

doing up he either says that he has to get to work, that the alarm woke him up,

someone honked a horn for him on the street or he doesn't remember.

>

> He was up most of last night and is sleeping in his chair today on and off.

But, I notice that he is jerking and jumping a lot. Have any of you experienced

that and if so, what do you do for it? He is exhausted but seems to be unable

to sleep much at all.

>

> Thanks for any ideas!

>

> Alisa, caregiver to FIL Butch, 73, DX LBD 3 years, PD 12 years

>

>

[Guest guest]

My mom does this on occasion.

Before she started to take Ashwagandha (natural remedy for insomnia at night

that works awesome for my mom) she was up every hour on the hour. We would find

her completely dressed with a bag packed with random things. She would think she

was going home or that she had to go somewhere.

My mother doesn't take the traditional meds. Ashwagandha is similar to Aricept

only it doesn't have side effects. She is also on a natural supplement called

CogniFactor.

I would highly recommend seeing a Naturopath Doctor.

My mom was a diabetic for a long time. Now, she has a normal A1C (5.4) It's been

consistent for months. She used Fenugreek extract to help fix her insulin

receptors.

Foods to avoid, especially at bed time are any dairy - like ice cream.

Cut out all processed foods, all gluten (wheat, rye, barley, oats and rice.)

Replace these with Quinoa and Amaranth - grains that have been around for

thousands of years. They are high protein grains.

Avoid eggplant - when my mom eats it she hallucinates

My basic rule is no bread, no pasta and no preservatives.

Currently, my mom takes a 3mg of Melatonin and 5000 iu of Vit D3 as well as her

8 drops of Ashwagandha in a little bit of water. She sleeps through the night,

unless of course she's upset about something. The secret is to keep him calm.

I've discovered that by working on my own sense of calm, it helps my mom to be

calm.

I write a lot about natural treatments that we are using with my mom (

http://backdoorlogic.blogspot.com ). She has a lot of good days which is great.

Today she is having a fabulous day, I'm truly grateful.

I know your pain. I began losing my mind before I found Ashwagandha!

Sue

Not sleeping very long at night...

Does anyone have experience with their loved one not sleeping much during the

night? Lately we can't seem to keep my father-in-law, Butch, in bed for more

than 30 minutes or so at a time. He is a modest man and every time he gets up,

he wants to put on pants and belt and does not want to wear sweats or something

more simple to put on. A lot of the time lately, he will fall trying to get them

on and we hear him through the monitor. When asked what he was doing up he

either says that he has to get to work, that the alarm woke him up, someone

honked a horn for him on the street or he doesn't remember.

He was up most of last night and is sleeping in his chair today on and off. But,

I notice that he is jerking and jumping a lot. Have any of you experienced that

and if so, what do you do for it? He is exhausted but seems to be unable to

sleep much at all.

Thanks for any ideas!

Alisa, caregiver to FIL Butch, 73, DX LBD 3 years, PD 12 years

[Guest guest]

One more thing, for hallucinations, she takes 4 pellets of helleborus niger 30

C. under her tongue. It's a homeopathic remedy that works amazingly well. A

Naturopath Doctor can help you a lot. I highly recommend seeing one.

Not sleeping very long at night...

Does anyone have experience with their loved one not sleeping much during the

night? Lately we can't seem to keep my father-in-law, Butch, in bed for more

than 30 minutes or so at a time. He is a modest man and every time he gets up,

he wants to put on pants and belt and does not want to wear sweats or something

more simple to put on. A lot of the time lately, he will fall trying to get them

on and we hear him through the monitor. When asked what he was doing up he

either says that he has to get to work, that the alarm woke him up, someone

honked a horn for him on the street or he doesn't remember.

He was up most of last night and is sleeping in his chair today on and off. But,

I notice that he is jerking and jumping a lot. Have any of you experienced that

and if so, what do you do for it? He is exhausted but seems to be unable to

sleep much at all.

Thanks for any ideas!

Alisa, caregiver to FIL Butch, 73, DX LBD 3 years, PD 12 years

[Guest guest]

Thanks everyone. 

He takes 2 seroquel at bedtime and 1 at 3:00 in the afternoon.  He also takes 2

pills twice a day for his parkinsons and I can't think of what they are called

off the top of my head.  This combination had been working terrifically until

about 2 weeks ago and he seems to be more delusional, restless and jerks a lot

in his sleep and sometimes when he is awake now.  He has really been confused

too, not really recognizing family that stops by and seems to have that vacant

stare in his eyes more often and not these days.  I'm sure its the natural

progression for this rollercoaster of a disease, I just want to make it as easy

on him as I can and make him comfortable and I need some sleep (ha!).  I feel

like I have a newborn baby that I'm caring for - he wakes up every hour or so...

________________________________

To: LBDcaregivers

Sent: Fri, November 27, 2009 12:56:17 PM

Subject: Re: Not sleeping very long at night...

 

Alisa, it sounds like he is hallucinating. Have you tried a low dose of Seroquel

at bedtime? It can be upped slowly if a low dose doesn't help.

All the best in rectifying this situation. You all need your sleep to continue

this journey.

>

> Hi Alisa,

>

> If he is taking any medications that make him drowsy perhaps you can give it

to him in the evening? Also, meds for AD like Aricept could be given in the

morning to help wake him up and keep him awake so that he'll sleep better at

night.

> Best,

> Courage

>

> Not sleeping very long at night...

>

>

>

> Does anyone have experience with their loved one not sleeping much during the

night? Lately we can't seem to keep my father-in-law, Butch, in bed for more

than 30 minutes or so at a time. He is a modest man and every time he gets up,

he wants to put on pants and belt and does not want to wear sweats or something

more simple to put on. A lot of the time lately, he will fall trying to get them

on and we hear him through the monitor. When asked what he was doing up he

either says that he has to get to work, that the alarm woke him up, someone

honked a horn for him on the street or he doesn't remember.

>

> He was up most of last night and is sleeping in his chair today on and off.

But, I notice that he is jerking and jumping a lot. Have any of you experienced

that and if so, what do you do for it? He is exhausted but seems to be unable to

sleep much at all.

>

> Thanks for any ideas!

>

> Alisa, caregiver to FIL Butch, 73, DX LBD 3 years, PD 12 years

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Again Alisa,

If this change in behavior has just happened recently you may want to get him

checked for a UTI.

Best,

Courage

Not sleeping very long at night...

>

>

>

> Does anyone have experience with their loved one not sleeping much during

the night? Lately we can't seem to keep my father-in-law, Butch, in bed for more

than 30 minutes or so at a time. He is a modest man and every time he gets up,

he wants to put on pants and belt and does not want to wear sweats or something

more simple to put on. A lot of the time lately, he will fall trying to get them

on and we hear him through the monitor. When asked what he was doing up he

either says that he has to get to work, that the alarm woke him up, someone

honked a horn for him on the street or he doesn't remember.

>

> He was up most of last night and is sleeping in his chair today on and off.

But, I notice that he is jerking and jumping a lot. Have any of you experienced

that and if so, what do you do for it? He is exhausted but seems to be unable to

sleep much at all.

>

> Thanks for any ideas!

>

> Alisa, caregiver to FIL Butch, 73, DX LBD 3 years, PD 12 years

>

>

[Guest guest]

I see Courage suggested testing for a uti, which I was going to do. The other

thought is that perhaps he can't tolerate as much of the Parkinsons meds. I

seem to recall they can cause the jerking, along with increased dementia

symptoms. Worth looking into if uti is ruled out.

> >

> > Hi Alisa,

> >

> > If he is taking any medications that make him drowsy perhaps you can give it

to him in the evening? Also, meds for AD like Aricept could be given in the

morning to help wake him up and keep him awake so that he'll sleep better at

night.

> > Best,

> > Courage

> >

> > Not sleeping very long at night...

> >

> >

> >

> > Does anyone have experience with their loved one not sleeping much during

the night? Lately we can't seem to keep my father-in-law, Butch, in bed for more

than 30 minutes or so at a time. He is a modest man and every time he gets up,

he wants to put on pants and belt and does not want to wear sweats or something

more simple to put on. A lot of the time lately, he will fall trying to get them

on and we hear him through the monitor. When asked what he was doing up he

either says that he has to get to work, that the alarm woke him up, someone

honked a horn for him on the street or he doesn't remember.

> >

> > He was up most of last night and is sleeping in his chair today on and off.

But, I notice that he is jerking and jumping a lot. Have any of you experienced

that and if so, what do you do for it? He is exhausted but seems to be unable to

sleep much at all.

> >

> > Thanks for any ideas!

> >

> > Alisa, caregiver to FIL Butch, 73, DX LBD 3 years, PD 12 years

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Alisa,

Bless you for caring for your fil. That's so awesome, however, you all need

your sleep.

As has been said in other responses, yes, please check for a UTI. It is so

common in the LBDers and can certainly cause these behavior changes.

Next, can you ask the neurologist about increasing his bedtime Seroquel dosage?

We are so thankful for a LBD savvy and very kind neurologist who, early in Mom's

treatment, said that, " She needs to sleep and you [he said pointing to me] need

to sleep " and, after giving us dosing guidelines, he added, " When you get to the

right dose of Seroquel she WILL sleep all night. "

Wishing you a good night's sleep,

Sheila in IN

Daughter of Louise, age 87, dx LBD 7/2007

Seroquel 9AM- 25 mg, 3PM- 62.5 mg, 9PM -100 mg.

>

> Does anyone have experience with their loved one not sleeping much during the

night?  Lately we can't seem to keep my father-in-law, Butch, in bed for more

than 30 minutes or so at a time.  He is a modest man and every time he gets up,

he wants to put on pants and belt and does not want to wear sweats or something

more simple to put on.  A lot of the time lately, he will fall trying to get

them on and we hear him through the monitor.  When asked what he was doing up he

either says that he has to get to work, that the alarm woke him up, someone

honked a horn for him on the street or he doesn't remember. 

>

> He was up most of last night and is sleeping in his chair today on and off. 

But, I notice that he is jerking and jumping a lot.  Have any of you experienced

that and if so, what do you do for it?  He is exhausted but seems to be unable

to sleep much at all.

>

> Thanks for any ideas!

>

> Alisa, caregiver to FIL Butch, 73, DX LBD 3 years, PD 12 years

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Alisa,

I haven't read the responses to your message, so someone may have already

suggested this. My dad had the same issue as your father in law. My dad always

wandered at night, but when we put him in a board and care home, the owners told

us they couldn't accommodate his needs and we were going to have to move him. I

called the Mayo Clinic and told them the situation and they suggested a low dose

of Klonopin. It worked like a charm. He started sleeping through the night and

was able to remain at his board and care home, where he still lives today. We

weaned him off the Klonopin about 6 months ago, because he is no longer able to

walk and get out of bed on his own.

Good Luck....it is a tough road ahead.

Rhonda

>

> Does anyone have experience with their loved one not sleeping much during the

night?  Lately we can't seem to keep my father-in-law, Butch, in bed for more

than 30 minutes or so at a time.  He is a modest man and every time he gets up,

he wants to put on pants and belt and does not want to wear sweats or something

more simple to put on.  A lot of the time lately, he will fall trying to get

them on and we hear him through the monitor.  When asked what he was doing up he

either says that he has to get to work, that the alarm woke him up, someone

honked a horn for him on the street or he doesn't remember. 

>

> He was up most of last night and is sleeping in his chair today on and off. 

But, I notice that he is jerking and jumping a lot.  Have any of you experienced

that and if so, what do you do for it?  He is exhausted but seems to be unable

to sleep much at all.

>

> Thanks for any ideas!

>

> Alisa, caregiver to FIL Butch, 73, DX LBD 3 years, PD 12 years

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks!  I appreciate everyone's input.  I will check on the Klonopin and

also on an UTI.  He slept well last night or maybe I was just exhausted and

didn't hear him.  I'm not sure which - HA!  At any rate, he seems a little

more alert today so I think he must have gotten some rest.  Happy Holidays to

all!  Thank you again for all the advice, it is a different kind of job caring

for a loved one with this disease.

Alisa

 

________________________________

To: LBDcaregivers

Sent: Sat, November 28, 2009 3:52:55 PM

Subject: Re: Not sleeping very long at night...

 

Alisa,

I haven't read the responses to your message, so someone may have already

suggested this. My dad had the same issue as your father in law. My dad always

wandered at night, but when we put him in a board and care home, the owners told

us they couldn't accommodate his needs and we were going to have to move him. I

called the Mayo Clinic and told them the situation and they suggested a low dose

of Klonopin. It worked like a charm. He started sleeping through the night and

was able to remain at his board and care home, where he still lives today. We

weaned him off the Klonopin about 6 months ago, because he is no longer able to

walk and get out of bed on his own.

Good Luck....it is a tough road ahead.

Rhonda

>

> Does anyone have experience with their loved one not sleeping much during the

night?  Lately we can't seem to keep my father-in-law, Butch, in bed for more

than 30 minutes or so at a time.  He is a modest man and every time he gets up,

he wants to put on pants and belt and does not want to wear sweats or something

more simple to put on.  A lot of the time lately, he will fall trying to get

them on and we hear him through the monitor.  When asked what he was doing up

he either says that he has to get to work, that the alarm woke him up, someone

honked a horn for him on the street or he doesn't remember. 

>

> He was up most of last night and is sleeping in his chair today on and off. 

But, I notice that he is jerking and jumping a lot.  Have any of you

experienced that and if so, what do you do for it?  He is exhausted but seems

to be unable to sleep much at all.

>

> Thanks for any ideas!

>

> Alisa, caregiver to FIL Butch, 73, DX LBD 3 years, PD 12 years

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Alisa

The doctor and nurses said that my father responded fairly well to melatonin at

night. He slept better and was less activity when sleeping. Sounds like the

Klonapin might help too. Kathy

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

I must say something here as a warning to our friends. I know you mean

well, and are sincere, and are also a dear friend on this list.

Remember that I have been around a long time, as I am older than dirt, so

I have had time to have known several people that relied on Naturopath

remedies, and they died. They should have consulted with a Medical Doctor, or

several Medical Doctors, for other opinions to assess their problem. But no,

they tried to medicate themselves with natural remedies and it didn't work.

We are not ignorant, yet we do not have the knowledge to decide all

treatments for ourselves. That is why Doctors go to school so many years. Yes,

they have killed many people because medicines can kill, but so can natural

remedies. Just please friends don't try to treat all yours or your LOs

illnesses alone with something of which your can't be positive from a medical

point of view.

I mean this in the deepest respect, but it scares me to see anyone taking

the " natural " route. We are not doctors.

Love to all,

Imogene

Love with a smile,

Imogene

Caregiver for my True Texas Gentleman Husband. Incorrect diagnoses of AD

in 2005.

A correct diagnosis of LBD 2006.

A happy personality is contagious. Infect someone today.

Yours Truly

In a message dated 11/27/2009 7:11:35 P.M. Central Standard Time,

susan_jarmulowicz@... writes:

My mom does this on occasion.

Before she started to take Ashwagandha (natural remedy for insomnia at

night that works awesome for my mom) she was up every hour on the hour. We

would find her completely dressed with a bag packed with random things. She

would think she was going home or that she had to go somewhere.

My mother doesn't take the traditional meds. Ashwagandha is similar to

Aricept only it doesn't have side effects. She is also on a natural supplement

called CogniFactor.

I would highly recommend seeing a Naturopath Doctor.

My mom was a diabetic for a long time. Now, she has a normal A1C (5.4)

It's been consistent for months. She used Fenugreek extract to help fix her

insulin receptors.

Foods to avoid, especially at bed time are any dairy - like ice cream.

Cut out all processed foods, all gluten (wheat, rye, barley, oats and

rice.) Replace these with Quinoa and Amaranth - grains that have been around

for thousands of years. They are high protein grains.

Avoid eggplant - when my mom eats it she hallucinates

My basic rule is no bread, no pasta and no preservatives.

Currently, my mom takes a 3mg of Melatonin and 5000 iu of Vit D3 as well

as her 8 drops of Ashwagandha in a little bit of water. She sleeps through

the night, unless of course she's upset about something. The secret is to

keep him calm. I've discovered that by working on my own sense of calm, it

helps my mom to be calm.

I write a lot about natural treatments that we are using with my mom (

http://backdoorlogic.blogspot.com ). She has a lot of good days which is

great. Today she is having a fabulous day, I'm truly grateful.

I know your pain. I began losing my mind before I found Ashwagandha!

Sue

[Guest guest]

For the record, we work with medical doctors in conjunction with our Naturopath

Doctor. It's working great for my mom. I am not doing this alone. She is

healthier than ever, except for her memory and hallucinations on occassion.

The point of my posts is to let people know there are alternatives. Naturopath

Doctors WITH MEDICAL DOCTORS helps my mom a lot. The MD diagnosis the trouble

and the ND prescribes the natural remedies.

My mom does not have trouble with side effects that I read about on these posts.

I am amazed at my mom's progress. It works for her very well. I love my mom and

I know everyone loves their loved ones too, I want to share what I'm learning

about alternative treatments that have been around for thousands of years, tried

and true.

I still highly recommend a Naturopath Doctor working with an MD. It is helping

my mom to have more good days than bad.

How is this wrong? If my mom dies having a good day, wouldn't it be better than

her having a boat-load of bad days? She doesn't like it when she has bad days,

she's 80 and I'm committed to have her laugh every day, even on bad days.

People should not be afraid to ask questions and seek alternatives. If you all

want me to keep quiet and not share what I've learned, I will stop posting

comments.

Warmly,

Sue

Re: Not sleeping very long at night...

Dear ,

I must say something here as a warning to our friends. I know you mean

well, and are sincere, and are also a dear friend on this list.

Remember that I have been around a long time, as I am older than dirt, so

I have had time to have known several people that relied on Naturopath

remedies, and they died. They should have consulted with a Medical Doctor, or

several Medical Doctors, for other opinions to assess their problem. But no,

they tried to medicate themselves with natural remedies and it didn't work.

We are not ignorant, yet we do not have the knowledge to decide all

treatments for ourselves. That is why Doctors go to school so many years. Yes,

they have killed many people because medicines can kill, but so can natural

remedies. Just please friends don't try to treat all yours or your LOs

illnesses alone with something of which your can't be positive from a medical

point of view.

I mean this in the deepest respect, but it scares me to see anyone taking

the " natural " route. We are not doctors.

Love to all,

Imogene

Love with a smile,

Imogene

Caregiver for my True Texas Gentleman Husband. Incorrect diagnoses of AD

in 2005.

A correct diagnosis of LBD 2006.

A happy personality is contagious. Infect someone today.

Yours Truly

In a message dated 11/27/2009 7:11:35 P.M. Central Standard Time,

susan_jarmulowicz@... writes:

My mom does this on occasion.

Before she started to take Ashwagandha (natural remedy for insomnia at

night that works awesome for my mom) she was up every hour on the hour. We

would find her completely dressed with a bag packed with random things. She

would think she was going home or that she had to go somewhere.

My mother doesn't take the traditional meds. Ashwagandha is similar to

Aricept only it doesn't have side effects. She is also on a natural supplement

called CogniFactor.

I would highly recommend seeing a Naturopath Doctor.

My mom was a diabetic for a long time. Now, she has a normal A1C (5.4)

It's been consistent for months. She used Fenugreek extract to help fix her

insulin receptors.

Foods to avoid, especially at bed time are any dairy - like ice cream.

Cut out all processed foods, all gluten (wheat, rye, barley, oats and

rice.) Replace these with Quinoa and Amaranth - grains that have been around

for thousands of years. They are high protein grains.

Avoid eggplant - when my mom eats it she hallucinates

My basic rule is no bread, no pasta and no preservatives.

Currently, my mom takes a 3mg of Melatonin and 5000 iu of Vit D3 as well

as her 8 drops of Ashwagandha in a little bit of water. She sleeps through

the night, unless of course she's upset about something. The secret is to

keep him calm. I've discovered that by working on my own sense of calm, it

helps my mom to be calm.

I write a lot about natural treatments that we are using with my mom (

http://backdoorlogic.blogspot.com ). She has a lot of good days which is

great. Today she is having a fabulous day, I'm truly grateful.

I know your pain. I began losing my mind before I found Ashwagandha!

Sue

[Guest guest]

I am very sorry . I should have been more precise. I did not know you

were working with Doctors. All I know is the experiences I have had with

dear friends going the route of alternative medicines, and dying of cancer.

They were a lot younger in age than your Mom. I knew of three that I can

think of right off hand.

I am sorry I spoke up, but some people don't go the route with doctors,

and they think the " natural " way is the way to go. It was a warning to those

that think this.

I am so sorry that I have not read any of your post saying that you were

working with Doctors. I have missed many of them.

Again please forgive me for giving the warning. I did not mean to walk on

your toes in any way. I am really sorry.

Love with a smile,

Imogene

Caregiver for my True Texas Gentleman Husband. Incorrect diagnoses of AD

in 2005.

A correct diagnosis of LBD 2006.

A happy personality is contagious. Infect someone today.

Yours Truly

In a message dated 11/30/2009 10:40:36 A.M. Central Standard Time,

susan_jarmulowicz@... writes:

For the record, we work with medical doctors in conjunction with our

Naturopath Doctor. It's working great for my mom. I am not doing this alone.

She

is healthier than ever, except for her memory and hallucinations on

occassion.

The point of my posts is to let people know there are alternatives.

Naturopath Doctors WITH MEDICAL DOCTORS helps my mom a lot. The MD diagnosis

the

trouble and the ND prescribes the natural remedies.

My mom does not have trouble with side effects that I read about on these

posts.

I am amazed at my mom's progress. It works for her very well. I love my

mom and I know everyone loves their loved ones too, I want to share what I'm

learning about alternative treatments that have been around for thousands

of years, tried and true.

I still highly recommend a Naturopath Doctor working with an MD. It is

helping my mom to have more good days than bad.

How is this wrong? If my mom dies having a good day, wouldn't it be better

than her having a boat-load of bad days? She doesn't like it when she has

bad days, she's 80 and I'm committed to have her laugh every day, even on

bad days.

People should not be afraid to ask questions and seek alternatives. If you

all want me to keep quiet and not share what I've learned, I will stop

posting comments.

Warmly,

Sue

Re: Not sleeping very long at night...

Dear ,

I must say something here as a warning to our friends. I know you mean

well, and are sincere, and are also a dear friend on this list.

Remember that I have been around a long time, as I am older than dirt, so

I have had time to have known several people that relied on Naturopath

remedies, and they died. They should have consulted with a Medical Doctor,

or

several Medical Doctors, for other opinions to assess their problem. But

no,

they tried to medicate themselves with natural remedies and it didn't

work.

We are not ignorant, yet we do not have the knowledge to decide all

treatments for ourselves. That is why Doctors go to school so many years.

Yes,

they have killed many people because medicines can kill, but so can

natural

remedies. Just please friends don't try to treat all yours or your LOs

illnesses alone with something of which your can't be positive from a

medical

point of view.

I mean this in the deepest respect, but it scares me to see anyone taking

the " natural " route. We are not doctors.

Love to all,

Imogene

Love with a smile,

Imogene

Caregiver for my True Texas Gentleman Husband. Incorrect diagnoses of AD

in 2005.

A correct diagnosis of LBD 2006.

A happy personality is contagious. Infect someone today.

Yours Truly

In a message dated 11/27/2009 7:11:35 P.M. Central Standard Time,

susan_jarmulowicz@... writes:

My mom does this on occasion.

Before she started to take Ashwagandha (natural remedy for insomnia at

night that works awesome for my mom) she was up every hour on the hour. We

would find her completely dressed with a bag packed with random things.

She

would think she was going home or that she had to go somewhere.

My mother doesn't take the traditional meds. Ashwagandha is similar to

Aricept only it doesn't have side effects. She is also on a natural

supplement

called CogniFactor.

I would highly recommend seeing a Naturopath Doctor.

My mom was a diabetic for a long time. Now, she has a normal A1C (5.4)

It's been consistent for months. She used Fenugreek extract to help fix

her

insulin receptors.

Foods to avoid, especially at bed time are any dairy - like ice cream.

Cut out all processed foods, all gluten (wheat, rye, barley, oats and

rice.) Replace these with Quinoa and Amaranth - grains that have been

around

for thousands of years. They are high protein grains.

Avoid eggplant - when my mom eats it she hallucinates

My basic rule is no bread, no pasta and no preservatives.

Currently, my mom takes a 3mg of Melatonin and 5000 iu of Vit D3 as well

as her 8 drops of Ashwagandha in a little bit of water. She sleeps through

the night, unless of course she's upset about something. The secret is to

keep him calm. I've discovered that by working on my own sense of calm, it

helps my mom to be calm.

I write a lot about natural treatments that we are using with my mom (

http://backdoorlogic.blogspot.com ). She has a lot of good days which is

great. Today she is having a fabulous day, I'm truly grateful.

I know your pain. I began losing my mind before I found Ashwagandha!

Sue

[Guest guest]

Thank you Sherry.

I am sorry I wrote my reply when I did. My apologies if I offended anyone. I

should have stopped and taken a breath; waiting to write when I was in a better

place.

But, I often have trouble keeping my mouth shut, no wonder my sister won't talk

to me!

I will continue to voice my opinions here, hey, let's spice it up with some

different thoughts.

I do believe that knowledge is power. The main reason I began posting comments

here was to provide the knowledge that my mom is helping me to discover. She

wants to help others with her trouble, she often tells me how I MUST get this

information out to people. So, I do. After all, she's still my mother, I have to

listen to her. (Note: she does remind me of this on those occasions when I've

pissed her off somehow.)

If we the care givers know all of our options, both benefits and constraints, we

are doing a service for those we love who can not make the decisions for

themselves.

Whoever wrote the note that I replied to, I am sorry if I hurt your feelings. I

love you for what you are doing, it's helpful to many.

Warmly,

Sue

Re: Not sleeping very long at night...

I just want to say that I have been hurt badly by some in the medical

profession and helped by others, and also helped by natural practitioners.

Their training is different but no less valuable than an MDs; MDs aren't the

only kind of doctors with help to offer even though in this country that is

the traditional school of thought. What we consider traditional medicine and

what people elsewhere in the world consider traditional medicine may be

different, but it all is based on science and knowledge, and it all has

great benefit.

I think it is great that we have options and choices! If MDs are helping

your loved one then by all means that's the way to go! If a naturopath is

doing great things, then by all means that's the way to go! And if they can

work together, excellent! Each of us has a different path and differing

beliefs but that doesn't invalidate anyone else's .

I already subscribe to your blog, but would hope that you wouldn't

stop sharing your own experiences with us here. We all have our own

experiences to share, none are any more or less important than another, even

though what works for one might not work for another. Proven science is

proven science, and in this fight against such an insipid evil every weapon

in our arsenal has value!

I would hate to see a difference of opinion deprive the list of your

experience .

His,

Sherry s

www.owly.net

daughter of , (mis?)diagnosed with AD in 2005, diagnosed with LBD March

2008; in a NH, taking Aricept/Namenda, Seroquel, and Effexor for depression.

----- Original Message -----

From: < susan_jarmulowicz@... >

> For the record, we work with medical doctors in conjunction with our

> Naturopath Doctor. It's working great for my mom. I am not doing this

> alone. She is healthier than ever, except for her memory and

> hallucinations on occassion.

>

> The point of my posts is to let people know there are alternatives.

> Naturopath Doctors WITH MEDICAL DOCTORS helps my mom a lot. The MD

> diagnosis the trouble and the ND prescribes the natural remedies.

>

> My mom does not have trouble with side effects that I read about on these

> posts.

>

> I am amazed at my mom's progress. It works for her very well. I love my

> mom and I know everyone loves their loved ones too, I want to share what

> I'm learning about alternative treatments that have been around for

> thousands of years, tried and true.

>

> I still highly recommend a Naturopath Doctor working with an MD. It is

> helping my mom to have more good days than bad.

>

> How is this wrong? If my mom dies having a good day, wouldn't it be better

> than her having a boat-load of bad days? She doesn't like it when she has

> bad days, she's 80 and I'm committed to have her laugh every day, even on

> bad days.

>

> People should not be afraid to ask questions and seek alternatives. If you

> all want me to keep quiet and not share what I've learned, I will stop

> posting comments.

>

> Warmly,

>

> Sue

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Iward27663@...

> I must say something here as a warning to our friends. I know you mean

> well, and are sincere, and are also a dear friend on this list.

>

> Remember that I have been around a long time, as I am older than dirt, so

> I have had time to have known several people that relied on Naturopath

> remedies, and they died. They should have consulted with a Medical Doctor,

> or

> several Medical Doctors, for other opinions to assess their problem. But

> no,

> they tried to medicate themselves with natural remedies and it didn't

> work.

>

> We are not ignorant, yet we do not have the knowledge to decide all

> treatments for ourselves. That is why Doctors go to school so many years.

> Yes,

> they have killed many people because medicines can kill, but so can

> natural

> remedies. Just please friends don't try to treat all yours or your LOs

> illnesses alone with something of which your can't be positive from a

> medical

> point of view.

>

> I mean this in the deepest respect, but it scares me to see anyone taking

> the " natural " route. We are not doctors.

[Guest guest]

Everything that is posted by LOs on this site are their experiences and their

opinions. I believe that there are pros and cons and also things that work and

don't work based on individuals.

The important thing is that if someone posts what seems to be working for them,

then it is the duty of other LOs to consider if this is the right path for them

and their LOs, and likewise do the necessary research and consultation with

their doctors or other care providers to make the final decision.

This is a very tough disease and I hope that all can have the strength and

insight to do what is best for your LOs during this holiday season. Don't

forget about yourselves, either. Make sure that you take a moment here and

there to remember yourself and do something to bring extra happiness into your

lives.

God bless all,

Joan

>

> For the record, we work with medical doctors in conjunction with our

Naturopath Doctor. It's working great for my mom. I am not doing this alone. She

is healthier than ever, except for her memory and hallucinations on occassion.

>

> The point of my posts is to let people know there are alternatives. Naturopath

Doctors WITH MEDICAL DOCTORS helps my mom a lot. The MD diagnosis the trouble

and the ND prescribes the natural remedies.

>

> My mom does not have trouble with side effects that I read about on these

posts.

>

> I am amazed at my mom's progress. It works for her very well. I love my mom

and I know everyone loves their loved ones too, I want to share what I'm

learning about alternative treatments that have been around for thousands of

years, tried and true.

>

> I still highly recommend a Naturopath Doctor working with an MD. It is helping

my mom to have more good days than bad.

>

> How is this wrong? If my mom dies having a good day, wouldn't it be better

than her having a boat-load of bad days? She doesn't like it when she has bad

days, she's 80 and I'm committed to have her laugh every day, even on bad days.

>

> People should not be afraid to ask questions and seek alternatives. If you all

want me to keep quiet and not share what I've learned, I will stop posting

comments.

>

> Warmly,

>

> Sue

> Re: Not sleeping very long at night...

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Dear ,

>

> I must say something here as a warning to our friends. I know you mean

> well, and are sincere, and are also a dear friend on this list.

>

> Remember that I have been around a long time, as I am older than dirt, so

> I have had time to have known several people that relied on Naturopath

> remedies, and they died. They should have consulted with a Medical Doctor, or

> several Medical Doctors, for other opinions to assess their problem. But no,

> they tried to medicate themselves with natural remedies and it didn't work.

>

> We are not ignorant, yet we do not have the knowledge to decide all

> treatments for ourselves. That is why Doctors go to school so many years. Yes,

> they have killed many people because medicines can kill, but so can natural

> remedies. Just please friends don't try to treat all yours or your LOs

> illnesses alone with something of which your can't be positive from a medical

> point of view.

>

> I mean this in the deepest respect, but it scares me to see anyone taking

> the " natural " route. We are not doctors.

>

> Love to all,

> Imogene

>

>

>

> Love with a smile,

> Imogene

>

> Caregiver for my True Texas Gentleman Husband. Incorrect diagnoses of AD

> in 2005.

> A correct diagnosis of LBD 2006.

> A happy personality is contagious. Infect someone today.

> Yours Truly

>

> In a message dated 11/27/2009 7:11:35 P.M. Central Standard Time,

> susan_jarmulowicz@... writes:

>

> My mom does this on occasion.

>

> Before she started to take Ashwagandha (natural remedy for insomnia at

> night that works awesome for my mom) she was up every hour on the hour. We

> would find her completely dressed with a bag packed with random things. She

> would think she was going home or that she had to go somewhere.

>

> My mother doesn't take the traditional meds. Ashwagandha is similar to

> Aricept only it doesn't have side effects. She is also on a natural supplement

> called CogniFactor.

>

> I would highly recommend seeing a Naturopath Doctor.

>

> My mom was a diabetic for a long time. Now, she has a normal A1C (5.4)

> It's been consistent for months. She used Fenugreek extract to help fix her

> insulin receptors.

>

> Foods to avoid, especially at bed time are any dairy - like ice cream.

>

> Cut out all processed foods, all gluten (wheat, rye, barley, oats and

> rice.) Replace these with Quinoa and Amaranth - grains that have been around

> for thousands of years. They are high protein grains.

>

> Avoid eggplant - when my mom eats it she hallucinates

>

> My basic rule is no bread, no pasta and no preservatives.

>

> Currently, my mom takes a 3mg of Melatonin and 5000 iu of Vit D3 as well

> as her 8 drops of Ashwagandha in a little bit of water. She sleeps through

> the night, unless of course she's upset about something. The secret is to

> keep him calm. I've discovered that by working on my own sense of calm, it

> helps my mom to be calm.

>

> I write a lot about natural treatments that we are using with my mom (

> http://backdoorlogic.blogspot.com ). She has a lot of good days which is

> great. Today she is having a fabulous day, I'm truly grateful.

>

> I know your pain. I began losing my mind before I found Ashwagandha!

>

> Sue

>

>

[Guest guest]

I just want to say that I have been hurt badly by some in the medical

profession and helped by others, and also helped by natural practitioners.

Their training is different but no less valuable than an MDs; MDs aren't the

only kind of doctors with help to offer even though in this country that is

the traditional school of thought. What we consider traditional medicine and

what people elsewhere in the world consider traditional medicine may be

different, but it all is based on science and knowledge, and it all has

great benefit.

I think it is great that we have options and choices! If MDs are helping

your loved one then by all means that's the way to go! If a naturopath is

doing great things, then by all means that's the way to go! And if they can

work together, excellent! Each of us has a different path and differing

beliefs but that doesn't invalidate anyone else's .

I already subscribe to your blog, but would hope that you wouldn't

stop sharing your own experiences with us here. We all have our own

experiences to share, none are any more or less important than another, even

though what works for one might not work for another. Proven science is

proven science, and in this fight against such an insipid evil every weapon

in our arsenal has value!

I would hate to see a difference of opinion deprive the list of your

experience .

His,

Sherry s

www.owly.net

daughter of , (mis?)diagnosed with AD in 2005, diagnosed with LBD March

2008; in a NH, taking Aricept/Namenda, Seroquel, and Effexor for depression.

----- Original Message -----

> For the record, we work with medical doctors in conjunction with our

> Naturopath Doctor. It's working great for my mom. I am not doing this

> alone. She is healthier than ever, except for her memory and

> hallucinations on occassion.

>

> The point of my posts is to let people know there are alternatives.

> Naturopath Doctors WITH MEDICAL DOCTORS helps my mom a lot. The MD

> diagnosis the trouble and the ND prescribes the natural remedies.

>

> My mom does not have trouble with side effects that I read about on these

> posts.

>

> I am amazed at my mom's progress. It works for her very well. I love my

> mom and I know everyone loves their loved ones too, I want to share what

> I'm learning about alternative treatments that have been around for

> thousands of years, tried and true.

>

> I still highly recommend a Naturopath Doctor working with an MD. It is

> helping my mom to have more good days than bad.

>

> How is this wrong? If my mom dies having a good day, wouldn't it be better

> than her having a boat-load of bad days? She doesn't like it when she has

> bad days, she's 80 and I'm committed to have her laugh every day, even on

> bad days.

>

> People should not be afraid to ask questions and seek alternatives. If you

> all want me to keep quiet and not share what I've learned, I will stop

> posting comments.

>

> Warmly,

>

> Sue

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Iward27663@...

> I must say something here as a warning to our friends. I know you mean

> well, and are sincere, and are also a dear friend on this list.

>

> Remember that I have been around a long time, as I am older than dirt, so

> I have had time to have known several people that relied on Naturopath

> remedies, and they died. They should have consulted with a Medical Doctor,

> or

> several Medical Doctors, for other opinions to assess their problem. But

> no,

> they tried to medicate themselves with natural remedies and it didn't

> work.

>

> We are not ignorant, yet we do not have the knowledge to decide all

> treatments for ourselves. That is why Doctors go to school so many years.

> Yes,

> they have killed many people because medicines can kill, but so can

> natural

> remedies. Just please friends don't try to treat all yours or your LOs

> illnesses alone with something of which your can't be positive from a

> medical

> point of view.

>

> I mean this in the deepest respect, but it scares me to see anyone taking

> the " natural " route. We are not doctors.

[Guest guest]

No worries Imogene. Being a Care Giver can make us all edgy at times.

Naturopaths, in my opinion are the missing link when it comes to healthcare.

ND's and MD's working together can make us all healthier faster, avoiding the

pharmaceutical subscription plan.

The thing with natural remedies, you are NOT always on them forever. You take it

until you are well and YOU DO GET well.

I live the miracle of natural remedies every day with my mom (and myself to stay

well.)

She doesn't need Fenugreek anymore for diabetes. It appears that her insulin

receptors are healed. Yes, we changed her diet dramatically which has a lot to

do with her diabetes control with a consistent a1c of 5.4, but the fenugreek

helped us to get there faster. Now, she can even have flourless chocolate cake

(I put the recipe on my blog -

http://backdoorlogic.blogspot.com/2009/11/how-to-make-flourless-chocolate-cake-i\

n.html

Did you know that prescribed pharmaceutical drugs are one of the leading killers

in the US?

http://www.foodconsumer.org/newsite/Non-food/Drug/accidental_prescription_drug_d\

eaths_spike_upward_220920090610.html

Just because a doctor prescribes a drug as safe, doesn't mean it couldn't hurt

you or kill you. You don't have to take what they prescribe, there are

alternatives which a Naturopath is educated and experienced in prescribing the

homeopathic and natural remedies.

Pharma drugs and Natural remedies are medicines, they need to be used with care.

Homeopathy is something that is very safe and effective. I plan to write a blog

post about homeopathy very soon.

Thank you for reading.

Sue

Re: Not sleeping very long at night...

Dear ,

I must say something here as a warning to our friends. I know you mean

well, and are sincere, and are also a dear friend on this list.

Remember that I have been around a long time, as I am older than dirt, so

I have had time to have known several people that relied on Naturopath

remedies, and they died. They should have consulted with a Medical Doctor,

or

several Medical Doctors, for other opinions to assess their problem. But

no,

they tried to medicate themselves with natural remedies and it didn't

work.

We are not ignorant, yet we do not have the knowledge to decide all

treatments for ourselves. That is why Doctors go to school so many years.

Yes,

they have killed many people because medicines can kill, but so can

natural

remedies. Just please friends don't try to treat all yours or your LOs

illnesses alone with something of which your can't be positive from a

medical

point of view.

I mean this in the deepest respect, but it scares me to see anyone taking

the " natural " route. We are not doctors.

Love to all,

Imogene

Love with a smile,

Imogene

Caregiver for my True Texas Gentleman Husband. Incorrect diagnoses of AD

in 2005.

A correct diagnosis of LBD 2006.

A happy personality is contagious. Infect someone today.

Yours Truly

In a message dated 11/27/2009 7:11:35 P.M. Central Standard Time,

susan_jarmulowicz@... writes:

My mom does this on occasion.

Before she started to take Ashwagandha (natural remedy for insomnia at

night that works awesome for my mom) she was up every hour on the hour. We

would find her completely dressed with a bag packed with random things.

She

would think she was going home or that she had to go somewhere.

My mother doesn't take the traditional meds. Ashwagandha is similar to

Aricept only it doesn't have side effects. She is also on a natural

supplement

called CogniFactor.

I would highly recommend seeing a Naturopath Doctor.

My mom was a diabetic for a long time. Now, she has a normal A1C (5.4)

It's been consistent for months. She used Fenugreek extract to help fix

her

insulin receptors.

Foods to avoid, especially at bed time are any dairy - like ice cream.

Cut out all processed foods, all gluten (wheat, rye, barley, oats and

rice.) Replace these with Quinoa and Amaranth - grains that have been

around

for thousands of years. They are high protein grains.

Avoid eggplant - when my mom eats it she hallucinates

My basic rule is no bread, no pasta and no preservatives.

Currently, my mom takes a 3mg of Melatonin and 5000 iu of Vit D3 as well

as her 8 drops of Ashwagandha in a little bit of water. She sleeps through

the night, unless of course she's upset about something. The secret is to

keep him calm. I've discovered that by working on my own sense of calm, it

helps my mom to be calm.

I write a lot about natural treatments that we are using with my mom (

http://backdoorlogic.blogspot.com ). She has a lot of good days which is

great. Today she is having a fabulous day, I'm truly grateful.

I know your pain. I began losing my mind before I found Ashwagandha!

Sue

[Guest guest]

Alisa,

A thought. A mild anti-depressant, given at night (if you think he's depressed)

can help him to sleep at night.

[Guest guest]

Sue, it sure looks like you have found the perfect place to promote your

Blog and alternative medicines. LBD patients are dying anyway, and if this

makes them stronger, or have less symptoms, then that is wonderful. Will it

cure heart disease?

The list is endless. Yes, I have said that medicines can and do kill. But,

so can alternative medicines. A loved one told me once that it would help

me build up my system. What he was trying to give me would have killed me.

I was just afraid that some would go only the alternative route and

overlook serious health concerns that only a medical doctor can cure. My

beloved

friend's example of dying with cancer is proof of that. There are many that

are trying the alternative route, and are not knowledgeable enough to seek

help when it is seriously needed.

That was why I gave the warning. I am not totally against help where it

can be used properly, but I am afraid for those that try to play doctor on

themselves and their loved ones without adequate knowledge to do so. So my

warning to them still stands

Love with a smile,

Imogene

Caregiver for my True Texas Gentleman Husband. Incorrect diagnoses of AD

in 2005.

A correct diagnosis of LBD 2006.

A happy personality is contagious. Infect someone today.

Yours Truly

In a message dated 12/1/2009 6:28:14 A.M. Central Standard Time,

susan_jarmulowicz@... writes:

No worries Imogene. Being a Care Giver can make us all edgy at times.

Naturopaths, in my opinion are the missing link when it comes to

healthcare. ND's and MD's working together can make us all healthier faster,

avoiding the pharmaceutical subscription plan.

The thing with natural remedies, you are NOT always on them forever. You

take it until you are well and YOU DO GET well.

I live the miracle of natural remedies every day with my mom (and myself

to stay well.)

She doesn't need Fenugreek anymore for diabetes. It appears that her

insulin receptors are healed. Yes, we changed her diet dramatically which has a

lot to do with her diabetes control with a consistent a1c of 5.4, but the

fenugreek helped us to get there faster. Now, she can even have flourless

chocolate cake (I put the recipe on my blog -

http://backdoorlogic.blogspot.com/2009/11/how-to-make-flourless-chocolate-cake-i\

n.html

Did you know that prescribed pharmaceutical drugs are one of the leading

killers in the US?

http://www.foodconsumer.org/newsite/Non-food/Drug/accidental_prescription_dr

ug_deaths_spike_upward_220920090610.html

Just because a doctor prescribes a drug as safe, doesn't mean it couldn't

hurt you or kill you. You don't have to take what they prescribe, there are

alternatives which a Naturopath is educated and experienced in prescribing

the homeopathic and natural remedies.

Pharma drugs and Natural remedies are medicines, they need to be used with

care.

Homeopathy is something that is very safe and effective. I plan to write a

blog post about homeopathy very soon.

Thank you for reading.

Sue

[Guest guest]

I seem to be having trouble with message going through to the group, so I am

forwarding this one.

Hugs,

Donna R

Re: Not sleeping very long at night...

For the record, we work with medical doctors in conjunction with our Naturopath

Doctor. It's working great for my mom. I am not doing this alone. She is

healthier than ever, except for her memory and hallucinations on occassion.

The point of my posts is to let people know there are alternatives. Naturopath

Doctors WITH MEDICAL DOCTORS helps my mom a lot. The MD diagnosis the trouble

and the ND prescribes the natural remedies.

My mom does not have trouble with side effects that I read about on these posts.

I am amazed at my mom's progress. It works for her very well. I love my mom and

I know everyone loves their loved ones too, I want to share what I'm learning

about alternative treatments that have been around for thousands of years, tried

and true.

I still highly recommend a Naturopath Doctor working with an MD. It is helping

my mom to have more good days than bad.

How is this wrong? If my mom dies having a good day, wouldn't it be better than

her having a boat-load of bad days? She doesn't like it when she has bad days,

she's 80 and I'm committed to have her laugh every day, even on bad days.

People should not be afraid to ask questions and seek alternatives. If you all

want me to keep quiet and not share what I've learned, I will stop posting

comments.

Warmly,

Sue

Re: Not sleeping very long at night...

Dear ,

I must say something here as a warning to our friends. I know you mean

well, and are sincere, and are also a dear friend on this list.

Remember that I have been around a long time, as I am older than dirt, so

I have had time to have known several people that relied on Naturopath

remedies, and they died. They should have consulted with a Medical Doctor, or

several Medical Doctors, for other opinions to assess their problem. But no,

they tried to medicate themselves with natural remedies and it didn't work.

We are not ignorant, yet we do not have the knowledge to decide all

treatments for ourselves. That is why Doctors go to school so many years. Yes,

they have killed many people because medicines can kill, but so can natural

remedies. Just please friends don't try to treat all yours or your LOs

illnesses alone with something of which your can't be positive from a medical

point of view.

I mean this in the deepest respect, but it scares me to see anyone taking

the " natural " route. We are not doctors.

Love to all,

Imogene

Love with a smile,

Imogene

Caregiver for my True Texas Gentleman Husband. Incorrect diagnoses of AD

in 2005.

A correct diagnosis of LBD 2006.

A happy personality is contagious. Infect someone today.

Yours Truly

In a message dated 11/27/2009 7:11:35 P.M. Central Standard Time,

susan_jarmulowicz@... writes:

My mom does this on occasion.

Before she started to take Ashwagandha (natural remedy for insomnia at

night that works awesome for my mom) she was up every hour on the hour. We

would find her completely dressed with a bag packed with random things. She

would think she was going home or that she had to go somewhere.

My mother doesn't take the traditional meds. Ashwagandha is similar to

Aricept only it doesn't have side effects. She is also on a natural supplement

called CogniFactor.

I would highly recommend seeing a Naturopath Doctor.

My mom was a diabetic for a long time. Now, she has a normal A1C (5.4)

It's been consistent for months. She used Fenugreek extract to help fix her

insulin receptors.

Foods to avoid, especially at bed time are any dairy - like ice cream.

Cut out all processed foods, all gluten (wheat, rye, barley, oats and

rice.) Replace these with Quinoa and Amaranth - grains that have been around

for thousands of years. They are high protein grains.

Avoid eggplant - when my mom eats it she hallucinates

My basic rule is no bread, no pasta and no preservatives.

Currently, my mom takes a 3mg of Melatonin and 5000 iu of Vit D3 as well

as her 8 drops of Ashwagandha in a little bit of water. She sleeps through

the night, unless of course she's upset about something. The secret is to

keep him calm. I've discovered that by working on my own sense of calm, it

helps my mom to be calm.

I write a lot about natural treatments that we are using with my mom (

http://backdoorlogic.blogspot.com ). She has a lot of good days which is

great. Today she is having a fabulous day, I'm truly grateful.

I know your pain. I began losing my mind before I found Ashwagandha!

Sue

[Guest guest]

I will continue to post. We all need alternatives, especially if our loved ones

can't handle the drugs. My mom, she is one who can't handle any drugs. She's on

low doses of the natural remedies.

I started off without a ND. I helped my mom overcome diabetes. When my mom

started to hallucinate, even after not eating gluten, I knew I needed a

professional. Her traditional doctors were giving me strange looks like I was

causing her harm.

Happy ending, our ND is awesome, I don't know what we'd do without him. You can

find one in your area by going here:

http://www.naturopathic.org/

The website has a place to put your zip code and a list of doctors will be

listed.

Sue

http://backdoorlogic.blogspot.com

http://caregiversguidetosanity.blogspot.com

Re: Not sleeping very long at night...

Dear ,

I must say something here as a warning to our friends. I know you mean

well, and are sincere, and are also a dear friend on this list.

Remember that I have been around a long time, as I am older than dirt, so

I have had time to have known several people that relied on Naturopath

remedies, and they died. They should have consulted with a Medical Doctor, or

several Medical Doctors, for other opinions to assess their problem. But no,

they tried to medicate themselves with natural remedies and it didn't work.

We are not ignorant, yet we do not have the knowledge to decide all

treatments for ourselves. That is why Doctors go to school so many years. Yes,

they have killed many people because medicines can kill, but so can natural

remedies. Just please friends don't try to treat all yours or your LOs

illnesses alone with something of which your can't be positive from a medical

point of view.

I mean this in the deepest respect, but it scares me to see anyone taking

the " natural " route. We are not doctors.

Love to all,

Imogene

Love with a smile,

Imogene

Caregiver for my True Texas Gentleman Husband. Incorrect diagnoses of AD

in 2005.

A correct diagnosis of LBD 2006.

A happy personality is contagious. Infect someone today.

Yours Truly

In a message dated 11/27/2009 7:11:35 P.M. Central Standard Time,

susan_jarmulowicz@... writes:

My mom does this on occasion.

Before she started to take Ashwagandha (natural remedy for insomnia at

night that works awesome for my mom) she was up every hour on the hour. We

would find her completely dressed with a bag packed with random things. She

would think she was going home or that she had to go somewhere.

My mother doesn't take the traditional meds. Ashwagandha is similar to

Aricept only it doesn't have side effects. She is also on a natural supplement

called CogniFactor.

I would highly recommend seeing a Naturopath Doctor.

My mom was a diabetic for a long time. Now, she has a normal A1C (5.4)

It's been consistent for months. She used Fenugreek extract to help fix her

insulin receptors.

Foods to avoid, especially at bed time are any dairy - like ice cream.

Cut out all processed foods, all gluten (wheat, rye, barley, oats and

rice.) Replace these with Quinoa and Amaranth - grains that have been around

for thousands of years. They are high protein grains.

Avoid eggplant - when my mom eats it she hallucinates

My basic rule is no bread, no pasta and no preservatives.

Currently, my mom takes a 3mg of Melatonin and 5000 iu of Vit D3 as well

as her 8 drops of Ashwagandha in a little bit of water. She sleeps through

the night, unless of course she's upset about something. The secret is to

keep him calm. I've discovered that by working on my own sense of calm, it

helps my mom to be calm.

I write a lot about natural treatments that we are using with my mom (

http://backdoorlogic.blogspot.com ). She has a lot of good days which is

great. Today she is having a fabulous day, I'm truly grateful.

I know your pain. I began losing my mind before I found Ashwagandha!

Sue

[Guest guest]

Hi Imogene,

I want everyone to know what I'm learning.

My mom is on herbal remedies for her high blood pressure. I'm amazed at how well

they work, Cardio HNT. You need to buy it from a Naturopath Doctor. I've

researched a lot of herbal remedies and fungi. Cordyceps is really great but

it's strong. It stopped my mom's hallucinations when she was taking it but it

lowered her blood sugar too low. Cordyceps lowers blood sugar, lowers

cholesterol and lowers blood pressure.

Everything can kill us, even the food we eat (especially the food that we eat,

it's now genetically altered.)

We all need to educate ourselves and not be led blindly by our egos, fear or

ignorance. The purpose of my blog and posting here is to share with everyone

what I'm discovering about this disease and treatments.

I personally believe that we are not dead until we are dead. My mom has shown me

how the body can heal itself; the human body is amazingly resilient.

Educate yourself, ask questions and have an ND and MD work together to help you

maintain good health.

Thanks Imogene, you are right, some people do try to self medicate, which is not

a good idea... that's why I'm a big supporter of Naturopath Doctors.

Sue

Re: Not sleeping very long at night...

Sue, it sure looks like you have found the perfect place to promote your

Blog and alternative medicines. LBD patients are dying anyway, and if this

makes them stronger, or have less symptoms, then that is wonderful. Will it

cure heart disease?

The list is endless. Yes, I have said that medicines can and do kill. But,

so can alternative medicines. A loved one told me once that it would help

me build up my system. What he was trying to give me would have killed me.

I was just afraid that some would go only the alternative route and

overlook serious health concerns that only a medical doctor can cure. My beloved

friend's example of dying with cancer is proof of that. There are many that

are trying the alternative route, and are not knowledgeable enough to seek

help when it is seriously needed.

That was why I gave the warning. I am not totally against help where it

can be used properly, but I am afraid for those that try to play doctor on

themselves and their loved ones without adequate knowledge to do so. So my

warning to them still stands

Love with a smile,

Imogene

Caregiver for my True Texas Gentleman Husband. Incorrect diagnoses of AD

in 2005.

A correct diagnosis of LBD 2006.

A happy personality is contagious. Infect someone today.

Yours Truly

In a message dated 12/1/2009 6:28:14 A.M. Central Standard Time,

susan_jarmulowicz@... writes:

No worries Imogene. Being a Care Giver can make us all edgy at times.

Naturopaths, in my opinion are the missing link when it comes to

healthcare. ND's and MD's working together can make us all healthier faster,

avoiding the pharmaceutical subscription plan.

The thing with natural remedies, you are NOT always on them forever. You

take it until you are well and YOU DO GET well.

I live the miracle of natural remedies every day with my mom (and myself

to stay well.)

She doesn't need Fenugreek anymore for diabetes. It appears that her

insulin receptors are healed. Yes, we changed her diet dramatically which has a

lot to do with her diabetes control with a consistent a1c of 5.4, but the

fenugreek helped us to get there faster. Now, she can even have flourless

chocolate cake (I put the recipe on my blog -

http://backdoorlogic.blogspot.com/2009/11/how-to-make-flourless-chocolate-cake-i\

n.html

Did you know that prescribed pharmaceutical drugs are one of the leading

killers in the US?

http://www.foodconsumer.org/newsite/Non-food/Drug/accidental_prescription_dr

ug_deaths_spike_upward_220920090610.html

Just because a doctor prescribes a drug as safe, doesn't mean it couldn't

hurt you or kill you. You don't have to take what they prescribe, there are

alternatives which a Naturopath is educated and experienced in prescribing

the homeopathic and natural remedies.

Pharma drugs and Natural remedies are medicines, they need to be used with

care.

Homeopathy is something that is very safe and effective. I plan to write a

blog post about homeopathy very soon.

Thank you for reading.

Sue