no die off, but slight improvements

[Guest guest]

Regina -

I did not notice any die-off symptoms when Zachary started the diet. It

wasn't until 3 weeks into the diet that I started to realize that he was making

changes.

Zachary 4.4 ASD? SCD 4 months

[Guest guest]

Hi, everyone,

My son has been on SCD for four days. I took away sugar,

potatoes and rice last week. (GF/CF for 1 1/2years) We have seen

some slight improvements and more solid bowel movements, but nothing

to suggest a die off. Has anyone else witnessed this and still have

positive long term results? I am slowly adding more legal foods. He

is always STARVING!!!

Thanks Regina

Mother of four 4 1/2 scd 4 days gf/cf 1 1/2 years

[Guest guest]

Welcome Regina,

When I started the diet I did have any noticeable die-off (no lethargy,

fatigue, headaches etc.) but I have made enormous gains. I was also

extremely hungry. I suppose I was feeding my body instead of the bacteria

down in the " fermentation tank " (as Elaine calls it). About two weeks after

starting SCD I did have a massive breakout on my face, but that cleared up

within days and has been quite amazing since.

I always kind of thought that the huge appetite was a type of " die off "

symptom. BTW, I now eat more reasonable sized servings.

Sheila, SCD 35 mos UC 20 yrs

mom of SCD 20 mos

> Hi, everyone,

>

> My son has been on SCD for four days. I took away sugar,

>potatoes and rice last week. (GF/CF for 1 1/2years) We have seen

>some slight improvements and more solid bowel movements, but nothing

>to suggest a die off. Has anyone else witnessed this and still have

>positive long term results? I am slowly adding more legal foods. He

>is always STARVING!!!

>

> Thanks Regina

> Mother of four 4 1/2 scd 4 days gf/cf 1 1/2 years

>

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[Guest guest]

I didn't see the usual die off signs with Adam. His stools were

always soft and sometimes worse, so if they were " worse " at the

start of SCD I didn't notice and it wasn't unusual.

By end of the first week he had solid, formed, log-like, brown

stools. A couple of days later I got unsolicited comments from

school about how happy and cooperative he was. We were noticing

subtle improvements in language at home. He started keeping his

shoes on after school (I didn't care either way, but he used strip

them off the minute he got home - now he hardly seemed to notice

they were on). Within a month, he had to draw a picture for

school. He'd never drawn anything but a scribble. He drew a stick

person - without my forcing him to!!

He has now been on the diet 3 months. There was a definite point in

Dec. and another this week where I am seeing again a jump (subtle,

but definite) in complexity/maturity of his language.

So yes, here is an example of a child without obvious die off

symptoms that has done well and continues to improve.

I just got back a urinary organic acid test done in Dec. He still

has SIGNIFICANT yeast and bacterial overgrowth, but it is improving.

P.S. the starving child thing is very common. Hang in there and

DON " T give him stuff you think he is not ready for. Just give him

lots of whatever it is that you have added that works for him. Most

kids hunger abates after a couple of weeks, although I've read some

reports that have taken a couple of months.

-- Sue, mom to Adam and

SCD 3 months

We have seen

> some slight improvements and more solid bowel movements, but

nothing

> to suggest a die off. Has anyone else witnessed this and still

have

> positive long term results?

[Guest guest]

My two kids didn't show die-off; they just started making gains, slowly but

surely.

I, however, had miserable die-off. I spend Day 8 sick in bed, throwing up,

with my entire body aching. That experience was what convinced me we should

stick to this diet.

Message: 12

Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 15:38:09 -0000

Subject: no die off, but slight improvements

Hi, everyone,

My son has been on SCD for four days. I took away sugar,

potatoes and rice last week. (GF/CF for 1 1/2years) We have seen

some slight improvements and more solid bowel movements, but nothing

to suggest a die off. Has anyone else witnessed this and still have

positive long term results? I am slowly adding more legal foods. He

is always STARVING!!!

Thanks Regina

Mother of four 4 1/2 scd 4 days gf/cf 1 1/2 years