Re: red rash

[Guest guest]

Can you guys describe the rash? We have ongoing issues with rash

around the mouth, and I still haven't figured it out!

Sue (From Pickering)

Mom to , 4, formerly? ASD, SCD 10 months

> Hi Rosemary:

> Red rash under his lips is die off? My son has had a

> red rash since two days before officially beginning

> the diet. It will not go away...

>

> Has anyone been successful in clearing such a thing? I

> always hear about charcoal for die off but I don't

> know what that is and I never paid much attention,

> because I didn't think he was having die off?

>

> Any input would be great,

> Thanks,

> Marissa

> collin asd 4.5 ; scd since Jan. 1 2004

>

[Guest guest]

I don't know that the rash is die off. That's just something someone

else suggested in the archive. Both my NT 2 yo and my asd 4yo have it.

It's just a strip of red skin under their lower lips. It appeared after

we started the yogurt. They both use pacifiers, and I read in the

archives that some pediatricians say it's caused by yeast and the saliva

collecting under the pacifier, which appears to be much worse in the

winter for some reason. (Maybe because dry skin is more vulnerable?)

Anyway, I don't know why it came after the yogurt if it is a yeast

infection. Or it might have been a coincidence.

One mother wrote in that it went away with regular use of oil of

oregano, so I've been thinking about trying that. We're also reducing

the pacifier.

Wish I had any answers,

Rosemary

[Guest guest]

Okay, sorry, I have nothing helpful to add.

Both my girls get pinpoint red dots between their upper lips and

noses from " smile line to smile line " . I don't know why, but it

doesn't sound at all like what you're speaking of.

Hang in there!

Sue (from Pickering)

[Guest guest]

Patti--

This is the discussion that I read in the archives. It's confusing

because there was another mom who wrote in about a rash her child had

elsewhere. It sounded much more severe than the mouth rash. I believe

that Elaine thought that that might be impetigo. But in any case there

were 2 rash discussions going on at the same time.

I will look into the question at my son's preschool and see if it's

going around.

Thanks,

Rosemary

[Guest guest]

I just looked up impetigo on the web. Here's a url:

kidshealth.org/parent/infections/bacterial_viral/impetigo.html

It's a bacterial infection and apparently is serious and highly

contagious. It usually begins with blisters that burst and then form a

brown or yellow crust.

I don't think it sounds like this mouth rash because I've never seen

signs of blisters and it's just red. It isn't spreading. But it's not

impossible that that's what it is. We certainly should all look into it.

Rosemary

[Guest guest]

I don't know if this is what's going on with your child or not, but when I

hit six months on SCD I started getting eczema on my hands, which I had

never had before on my life. It lasted about 3 months. When I mentioned it

on this list, surprisingly two other moms reported the same phenomena. So

there is a possibility that the rash is a detox reaction....

Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 18:00:50 -0500

Subject: Re: Re: red rash

Hi Marissa,

At this point I would go to your peds MD or a Dermatologist. Probably the

latter would be best. You might need prescription medication (topical, not

oral) in order to clear it up. I used to work for a Dermatologist and esp.

when it came to children, they usually bend over backwards to help them.

Does it bother him? Does he try to itch it?

mom to 4 asd, 22 months sd, o.t. issues.

Re: Re: red rash

Re: describe the red rash

On his top lip, it's barely visible, just a bit darker

red on the upper line and elevated slightly. On the

bottom it looks like a bad lipstick job or clown lips.

It's a semi-circle, fluctuates from bright red to mild

red, it's a little bit bumpy.

I've tried various creams, vaseline, etc. I see him

licking it and know the moisture is a problem so I've

considered putting a band-aid after the vaseline, just

to seal it up, but haven't yet.

It's been a long time...nearly 4 weeks.

Marissa

collin, 4.5 asd; scd since jan. 1, 2004

[Guest guest]

Hi... I somehow missed this post a few days ago... we have the same

red mouth rash and had it a few weeks ago too... I remembered

reading in the archives about the mouth rash and I assume it is die

off of some sort. I initially thought it was toxicity to Vitamin A

but ruled that out after stopping Vitamin A and having it reoccur

when we were not taking it. I assume die off.

Mom to Slater SCD 4 months dairy and egg free 2 years old

>

>

>

> I don't know if this is what's going on with your child or not,

but when I

> hit six months on SCD I started getting eczema on my hands, which

I had

> never had before on my life. It lasted about 3 months. When I

mentioned it

> on this list, surprisingly two other moms reported the same

phenomena. So

> there is a possibility that the rash is a detox reaction....

>

>

>

> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 18:00:50 -0500

> From: " Finke " <gobluebird@m...>

> Subject: Re: Re: red rash

>

> Hi Marissa,

> At this point I would go to your peds MD or a Dermatologist.

Probably the

> latter would be best. You might need prescription medication

(topical, not

> oral) in order to clear it up. I used to work for a Dermatologist

and esp.

> when it came to children, they usually bend over backwards to help

them.

> Does it bother him? Does he try to itch it?

>

> mom to 4 asd, 22 months sd, o.t. issues.

>

>

> Re: Re: red rash

>

>

> Re: describe the red rash

> On his top lip, it's barely visible, just a bit darker

> red on the upper line and elevated slightly. On the

> bottom it looks like a bad lipstick job or clown lips.

> It's a semi-circle, fluctuates from bright red to mild

> red, it's a little bit bumpy.

>

> I've tried various creams, vaseline, etc. I see him

> licking it and know the moisture is a problem so I've

> considered putting a band-aid after the vaseline, just

> to seal it up, but haven't yet.

>

> It's been a long time...nearly 4 weeks.

>

> Marissa

> collin, 4.5 asd; scd since jan. 1, 2004

[Guest guest]

,

Did you have the rash (eczema) and then did it go away for good?

Does it ever resurface?

I ask because 's facial rash (which doesn't look like eczema)

seems to be cyclical.

Sue (From Pickering)

[Guest guest]

Actually, what was weird is the eczema moved around on my hands - first one

area would have it, then that patch would clear and a new area would have

it. Eventually all the skin on the backs of my hands, backs of thumbs, and

around my wrists got eczema, and then it finally went away for good.

Message: 6

Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 15:18:03 -0000

Subject: Re: red rash

,

Did you have the rash (eczema) and then did it go away for good?

Does it ever resurface?

I ask because 's facial rash (which doesn't look like eczema)

seems to be cyclical.

Sue (From Pickering)

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Message: 7

Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 15:22:45 -0000

Subject: Re: Butternut squash - maybe not

Hi Rose,

Yikes! Poor you! (and of course poor !)

At this point, since you're going on vacation, is there an ILLEGAL

enzyme that has worked for you? If so, I would use it, because this

will be short term, and after your vacation, you can always go back

to working on the " purity " aspect.

Just my opinion.

Sue (From Pickering)

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Message: 8

Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 15:28:08 -0000

Subject: Re: skim yogurt?

Hi ,

I once made the yogurt out of 2% milk, and it wasn't nearly as good.

Sue (from Pickering)

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Message: 9

Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 15:29:58 -0000

Subject: Re:new and need help?

Hi Soha,

Here's what I've learned after reading posts for 10 months:

The parents who do the intro diet get the fastest results. It is

recommended as part of the SCD protocol.

If you REALLY CAN'T do it, (like we couldn't), better to get 100% on

SCD legal foods. You can always backtrack later.

Sue (From Pickering)

Mom to , 4, formerly? ASD, SCD 10 months

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Message: 10

Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 15:34:15 -0000

Subject: Re: new with lots of questions!

Hi Monika,

Yes, many of us have seen gut healing in our children.

My daughter had " pudding poop " and after SCD moved to constipation,

and now normal stools (with the help of a tiny bit of magnesium).

She had a very bloated tummy which disappeared in a few weeks.

You need to start with the intro diet, and go slowly as you

introduce new foods.

This board will be very helpful for you in implementing SCD.

Welcome,

Sue (From Pickering)

Mom to , 4, formerly? ASD, SCD 10 months

> hi everyone!

> I am planning to start this diet after been gfcf for one

> year.My daughter is six year old and we are having serious problem

> with her yeast overgrowth.So I was advised to start scd for my

> daughetr.

> SHe seems very tired all the time and we were advised by

> pffiefer clinic to start with UVa ursi some medicine to get rid of

> bad bacteria(E-Coli) in her system.And this medicine can cause

yeast

> die off rection. I am just curious if putting her on scd can alone

> help us to get rid of her bad bacteria .

> How to start this diet effectively?

> When we started gfcf we did cold turkey.She had bad reaction.

> Her gut is in no way healed with gfcfdiet.

> Before starting I want to make sure If this is going to

heal

> her gut or not.

> I am feeling very helpless now.

> Please advice how to start?

> Thanks!

> Monika

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Message: 11

Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 10:35:32 -0500

Subject: Re: Re: skim yogurt?

Thanks, I figured that would be the case. I'll just cut back on my own,

personal consumption of it (it's too yummy w/ berries, etc) and leave it the

way it is. It's best this way for the kids, anyhow.

in NC

Mom of Luke, age 5, Asperger's/highly sensitive to

phenols & salicylates/diarrhea & gas problems;

, age 3, healthy; and , 19 mos, healthy

All SCD 1 1/2 weeks

Re: skim yogurt?

Hi ,

I once made the yogurt out of 2% milk, and it wasn't nearly as good.

Sue (from Pickering)

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the

following websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com