Re: additional info. about adhesions

[Guest guest]

Angel,

SCROLL DOWN (IVF)...

Here is my thought-unless the tube is grossly constricted by the adhesions

(narrowed), I wouldn't think that IVF would have to be your next step. I

will try to get you some more information on this next week, okay?

As far as the 50% chance of ectopic, did you ask her where she got her

statistics? I know that you would like to have a set path to follow, but I

don't want you to rush into anything. That coming from me? Besides,

this woman had to ask if you had an emotional time with your ectopic...what

does that tell you?

I would still try to speak with a second RE, just to see what a second

opinion might

be. Remember, this is mostly a cash procedure (IVF)...

Hope this helps, hon.

Take care,

Krista

[Guest guest]

Angel,

I was so sorry to read your post. You are facing some difficult choices.

However, I would get a 2nd opinion from another RE. It certainly couldn't

hurt.

Maybe you should chart your temps and other signs to use as birth control

if you are not ready for ttc. Get a copy of Taking Charge of Your

Fertility by Toni Weschler. This will teach you how. It takes 3 months to

see a clear pattern, but it does work from what I understand. I have just

started charting temps b/c I want to be sure I don't miss another pg and

have another rupture. This way I will know early and can receive early

testing and have the metho shot if things aren't looking good. I refuse to

suffer through another emergency situation again. I am taking charge now.

It is nearly 2 years since my loss and I am only just considering ttc on my

own (w/ dh too of course). I worried too about it happening again and what

would I do if I lost another tube. Thus why I am charting. But I have

decided, for me, it would be best to try naturally. I do not want to have

another ep, but I am going to take that risk. IVF is so expensive and not

a sure thing and I want to exhaust all my options first.

Again, this is what I feel is right for me. It may not be right for you.

Only you can make that decision. I can't remember your age but I don't

remember you being up against time just yet, so don't rush into any

decision. I will pray for you and I'm here if you need me.

Tara

Re: additional info. about adhesions

Krista,

You had asked me once if I was going to seek out a second opinion. Well, I

thought about it and decided to get the first opinion clarified. I called

the

RE's office and spoke to a nurse about my file. She told me the following:

1.

during the surgical procedure they found EXTENSIVE adhesions (due to

appendectomy) over all of my organs. Especially both ovaries, tubes,

uterus,

bladder, colon, etc., 2. The Dr. repeatedly took down these adhesions. 3.

The

EP was in the left tube closest to the uterus. 4. the tube was grossly

damanged. 5. They removed the pregnancy and repaired. 6. The right tube and

ovaries were excessively adhered. Which they cleared. 7. Due to these

adhesions and the EP the nurse says I have around a 50% chance of another

ectopic. That is if I ever actually got pg. again.

I also asked her if dh and I should be using birth control just in case.

She

said if I had an emotional time dealing with the EP last time then I might

want to discuss my options with my reg ob/gyn. She would not recommend b/c

pills because of the fact that the hormones (not sure if that is the right

word I am looking for) would put a lot of wear and tear on my body and that

would be a waste since I probably do not need them. (I hope I am right in

what I say.) She then said that if the ep did not bother me that much and

I

felt I could deal with another possible pregnancy and a possible ep then

not

to worry about b/c at all.

Well, I am here to tell you today that I have wasted enough money on b/c

the

last ten years. I am terrified of going through that all again though. I

just

don't know if I could handle it. If I did not have the adhesions (she said

she would be really surprised if I didn't have any even though they made

every attempt to prevent it) then I would still go ahead and try to

conceive

on our own. I was going to say on my own but I think I will at least need

Mike for that. The adhesions are the big problem. That is why the RE does

not

want me to get pg. any other way than IVF. He feels that is the best way

for

me to go. He does not want me to go through that again. I do not blame him

because I do not want me to go through that again. Two surgeries, a

lifetime

of nightmares. Sorry to go on but I thought you would want to know the low

down.

Any ideas or thoughts on this girls would be very helpful.

Angel

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[Guest guest]

I just wanted to share this with the group, especially those of you dealing

with adhesions.

I was talking with a friend last night and she is the one who told me this

story. A friend of hers has a son in 3rd grade. When he was born her labor

was not progressing so they did an emergency c-section. It took them over 2

hours to deliver the baby because there were so many adhesions WITHIN HER

UTERUS they literally had to cut him out like cutting someone out of a car

wreck. Evidently she had somehow been able to get pregnant in spite of all

this mess and the adhesions had stretched and allowed him to grow. They

went back and did surgery later on to see if they could remove any of this

" stuff " and allow her to get pregnant again. They literally just closed her

up because the adhesions were so extensive. The doctors told her to

consider this child a gift from God, because they had no explanation for how

she was ever able to get pregnant in the first place, much less carry him to

term with the damage present in her reproductive tract.

Another story that may not repeat on a regular basis, but definitely proves

the adage that ANYTHING is possible.

Hope you are having a great day!

J.

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Tara, Krista, and all,

Thank you for responding to my email. I am glad to hear that it worked out

for some. Mike and I are going to fill out the adoption papers this weekend.

We will not worry about b/c anymore. We will use family planning method for a

while but you never know we might get lucky like 's friend of a

friend. I know that sounds really off the wall but I am tired of DR.s for

now. I am sure you know how I feel.

Angel

[Guest guest]

Angel

Good for you! I hope that this descision will bring you some peace of mind.

Adoption is a wonderfull path to take, and I hope it will all work out for

you both.

sonja

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>Subject: Re: additional info. about adhesions

>Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 18:45:37 EDT

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>Tara, Krista, and all,

>

>Thank you for responding to my email. I am glad to hear that it worked out

>for some. Mike and I are going to fill out the adoption papers this

>weekend.

>We will not worry about b/c anymore. We will use family planning method for

>a

>while but you never know we might get lucky like 's friend of a

>friend. I know that sounds really off the wall but I am tired of DR.s for

>now. I am sure you know how I feel.

>

>Angel

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G,

We just started the process. You would not believe the paper work. It is all

very overwhelming. Anyway, slowly but surely we are filling them out. I will

keep you updated. We are going to the catholic social services on Friday to

find out about what they offer. I will let you know how it goes.

Angel

[Guest guest]

Hi Angel,

Good luck with the adoption process. My dh & I have

gone to a few meetings on adoption and checked into

many agencies. We do have our name on one list even

though I still think I can have my own child.

On my recent bus trip there was a woman who was

adopting her second child from China. I asked her

about the process and we are planning to get together

so she can fill me in on all the details. I wouldn't

mind adopting a child and having one of my own since I

always wanted three children.

I would be very interested in knowing how the adoption

process goes for you since this may be an option for

us.

Stacey G.

--- MRSFISH95@... wrote:

> Tara, Krista, and all,

>

> Thank you for responding to my email. I am glad to

> hear that it worked out

> for some. Mike and I are going to fill out the

> adoption papers this weekend.

> We will not worry about b/c anymore. We will use

> family planning method for a

> while but you never know we might get lucky like

> 's friend of a

> friend. I know that sounds really off the wall but I

> am tired of DR.s for

> now. I am sure you know how I feel.

>

> Angel

>

>

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