Guest guest Posted June 11, 1998 Report Share Posted June 11, 1998 I think I always knew from the beginning - my sponsor was a whacko. Trouble was, he ran a rehab and many ppl thought he was God. also, he was a qualified private doc and had a pseudo-scientific air abt him - he was very clever, Oxford graduate, rich and succesful - and amazingly slim and fit for a middle-aged man - he ran the London marathon at 53. this was a guy who had had bad weight problems for years previously. But what he told me just didnt fit the facts - and he contradicted himself all the time too. Some days depression was caused by ones genetic addictive disease, other days you *chose* to get depressed. Anorexics became so because they were afraid they'd binge (many have never binged). any eating disordered person can never eat sugar (many have no problem with sugar). Abuse only " woke up " addiction, whatever that meant. there were so many warning signs. but i didnt get out until i lost my job straight after coming out of his rehab. that was my responsibility generally, but i was suffering from a serious dysthymic disorde which, thru his active discouragement, went untreated. he indicated antidepressants were addictive (they are not) and likened there use to usin g cocaine. The SOB should be struck off for that. P. On 11 Jun 1998 22:22:40 -0000 Randy wrote: > Hi Pete, > > Good to see you! I always enjoyed your posts on Add-L. > > I am curious of others: When did you first notice something was amuck with your step work? Was it a particular step? Did you start feeling creepy and couldn't figure out why? Or did you get alienated right from the start? > > Just curious. > > Regards, > > Randy > > > hi All > > > > My name is Pete and I am a survivor of a UK 12-step rehab. > (snippage) > > > ---- > Read this list on the Web at http://www.FindMail.com/list/12-step-free/ > To unsubscribe, email to 12-step-free-unsubscribe@... > To subscribe, email to 12-step-free-subscribe@... > -- > Start a FREE E-Mail List at http://makelist.com ! P. ---------------------- Pumpkin Eater " Facts are stubborn things " -- Judge Zobel, from Alain Rene Lesage [no, I didnt know who he was either] PERSONALITY-DISORDERS LIST: http://rdz.stjohns.edu/athenaeum/lists.phtml?personality-disorders _____________________ " At the Master's table, They gather for the Feast; They stab It with their steely knives But they just cant kill The Beast. " -- The Eagles ---- Read this list on the Web at http://www.FindMail.com/list/12-step-free/ To unsubscribe, email to 12-step-free-unsubscribe@... To subscribe, email to 12-step-free-subscribe@... -- Start a FREE E-Mail List at http://makelist.com ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 1998 Report Share Posted June 12, 1998 Hi Everyone. here. Randy wrote: I think I always knew from the beginning - my sponsor was a whacko. From the beginning I knew there was something wrong with AA, but over a period of many years, and three separate recommendations from proffessionals, I finally caved in and suspended my better judgement. I went to AA, got a sponsor I thought was okay, and did nearly everything she said. She is a terrific comedy story--a Clancey sponsee herself, at 11 years sober she still called him. An enormous woman, she eventually had to start going around town in a little golf cart because she had too much trouble walking. Her house was such a stupendous mess that she simply couldn't keep a houscleaner, even though the disablity people were willing to pay one. She made incredible demands of everyone she knew, including me. I could go on and on. Finally, I moved on. Each sponsor was as bad as the next. The last sponsor I had was a born-again Xtian, who also had some kind of mental problem. This did not show up right away, of course. She seemed really together at first. Her house too was so filthy that it had attracted rats. She constantly suspected me of going against her rules and regulations, even though I had never agreed to follow them to begin with. Melodramas would take place in her mind. Once, she came bursting in, without knocking, to a home where I worked taking care of an Alzheimer's patient. Since the last time I'd seen her, a melodrama had taken place in her mind concerning a homeless bum I knew who I'd give a cup of coffee to from time to time. She began to rant and rave that if he ever shows up drunk, I should call the police. She was really bonkers. When I fired her, she called all my friends to try to talk to them about me, filled my message recorder with strange messages, went to meetings every night to talk about me. She began to attend my home group. She'd sit behind me. I could feel her hate. It was an awful experience, especially since I had confided in her many things. This woman is still going to meetings. Because she has around 9 years of sobriety by now, she was in charge of the newcomers meeting for awhile. She is still being allowed by the groups to inflict her emotional illness upon the vulnerable. I am not the only former sponsee of hers who ended the relationship afraid of her. I talked to a couple others later, but no one will do anything about it Sincerely, . " Though once my steps were dogged by Demon Rum The Twelve Steps made a new mutt out of me The Big Book's where I wipe my furry bum And it's given me a " leg up " -- to pee! " ----Wally T. ---- Read this list on the Web at http://www.FindMail.com/list/12-step-free/ To unsubscribe, email to 12-step-free-unsubscribe@... To subscribe, email to 12-step-free-subscribe@... -- Start a FREE E-Mail List at http://makelist.com ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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