Re: Intro diet-breakfast (Prune Juice)-Jody and Carol

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Thanks for your suggestions. I liked the idea of adding the prune

juice to the honey syrup which I already make. I reread the

constipation protocol Elaine wrote on the info website and it states

that one should be on the intro diet for two to three days before

attempting the prune nectar/juice. So what would you guys recommend

for a pancake type breakfast that doesn't involve eggs or almond

flour? Or should I just continue with the GFCF pancakes and add the

prune juice to the honey syrup and once he starts eliminating better

switch to an egg pancake/peanut butter pancake/or banana pancake?

Like I said before, I need to be out of the door quite early to

drive another child to school, so I can't just switch cold turkey.

He is doing well with the steamed carrots, steamed pears and steamed

butternut squash for lunch and dinner which I added one at a time

over a span of a few months. We had an OT recommend to force feed

him when he was 3 years old because he was self limiting and that

was a disaster as he refused to take new food from me for the next 3-

4 years. He is quite obstinate. Thanks again for your help and

take care, Becky in Chesapeake, VA

P.S. Yes, I know about the DAN but haven't thought about going yet

because of finances although it would be a lot less expensive to go

to this one than one on the west coast:) Maybe I can justify it in

those terms!!

[Guest guest]

Try the sneaky veggie pancakes for the transition.

Use pureed, well-steamed zucchini instead of squash.

Or if you have a problem getting meat into him use half chicken have

zucchini to make the pancakes.

Does he drink enough? Constipation can often be helped by drinking

more water.

Jody

mom to -5.1 and -7.4

[Guest guest]

> Please drop those old " you know what " pancakes. Are we looking at

just waiting

> a few days to Warm the 'cold turkey " transition?

>

Hi Carol and Jody,

Carol, I do not want to misinterpret your comment above about

waiting a few days to warm the " cold turkey " ...what do you mean?? I

have tried to drop the GFCF pancakes several times which is the only

GFCF food we are feeding him. The first try was with the Almond

flour pancakes which he loved but worsened his constiption. The

second time was with the very ripe banana pancakes which also

worsened his constipation. The third time was with scrambled eggs

only and that also worsened his constipation. Each of these tries

was for a week at a time and the only way to get slightly softer

stools and every day elimination was with the GFCF pancakes or

during chelation rounds with DMSA. So it isn't like I haven't tried

to switch to a SCD breakfast, which is the reason I was searching

for some type of " pancake " to give him which would not constipate

him and still look like a pancake so he would not reject what was

offered, hence go into a temper tantrum because he was hungry and

hypoglycemic. Breakfast is not a good time to try to change

anything as the kids are hungry and want to eat NOW and I have other

kids to drive to school in the morning. So we are nearly there as

far as legal foods for the SC diet except for breakfast and

occasional french fries when we are traveling. I have always cooked

from scratch, so it is not a new adjustment for me to cook SCD

foods, just the type of food is the difference. Thanks Jody for the

Zuchinni pancake suggestion, I'll try that type of pancake next.

Carol, if you have any other breakfast suggestion, I would certainly

appreciate your thoughts. Take care all, Becky in Chesapeake, VA

[Guest guest]

" Thanks Jody for the Zuchinni pancake suggestion, I'll try that type

of pancake next. "

I just had another idea.

Do you give him supplements in the morning?

What about adding a small amount of magnesium in the mornings.

A few other parents have been reporting how a small amount of

magnesium has helped with constipation.

(and make sure to pack a snack for those trips and skip the fries.)

Jody

mom to -5.1 and -7.4

[Guest guest]

I'm not Carol but want to let you know about an apple pancake recipe

that's on SCDRecipe.com (it's the second recipe under " Breakfast " ).

All it has in it is apples and eggs. They don't exactly look like

regular pancakes, but my son loved them when I made them for the

first time this morning. I might process the eggs and apples

together next time and see if they look more like pancakes than

hashbrowns.

Ann

> Carol, if you have any other breakfast suggestion, I would

certainly

> appreciate your thoughts. Take care all, Becky in Chesapeake, VA

[Guest guest]

Yep, he gets 320mg of magnesium citrate divided in four doses per

day and gets 4000mg of Vitamin C (beet type) divided in four doses

per day also. He also drinks 8 8oz glasses of water per day to no

avail, but lots of bathroom trips to pi. It is interesting to me

that the DMSA helps the most and I have asked on other lists if it

is the sulfur in it that is helping him but no one knows. I'm

hoping the SCD will be the answer. Thanks for thinking about more

things to try. Take care, Becky in Chesapeake, VA

> " Thanks Jody for the Zuchinni pancake suggestion, I'll try that

type

> of pancake next. "

>

> I just had another idea.

> Do you give him supplements in the morning?

> What about adding a small amount of magnesium in the mornings.

> A few other parents have been reporting how a small amount of

> magnesium has helped with constipation.

>

> (and make sure to pack a snack for those trips and skip the fries.)

>

>

> Jody

> mom to -5.1 and -7.4

[Guest guest]

Thanks Ann,

I saw that recipe in there but decided against it since apples are

binding like bananas. I forgot to mention in my previous post that

I even tried a pumpkin pancake and it really made him stimmy. I'm

thinking it was the phenols but not sure. Thanks for the suggestion

and take care, Becky in Chesapeake, VA

>

> I'm not Carol but want to let you know about an apple pancake

recipe

> that's on SCDRecipe.com (it's the second recipe

under " Breakfast " ).

> All it has in it is apples and eggs. They don't exactly look like

> regular pancakes, but my son loved them when I made them for the

> first time this morning. I might process the eggs and apples

> together next time and see if they look more like pancakes than

> hashbrowns.

>

> Ann

>

> > Carol, if you have any other breakfast suggestion, I would

> certainly

> > appreciate your thoughts. Take care all, Becky in Chesapeake, VA

[Guest guest]

If you think it is the sulfur that's helping... have you ever tried MSM?

Jody

mom to -5.1 and -7.4

[Guest guest]

Nope. I don't even know what it is. Where do you get info about

that product? I will start looking it up but I also still want to

do the SCD. Thanks for the thought and I'll keep you posted as I

try different things. Take care, Becky in Chesapeake, VA

> If you think it is the sulfur that's helping... have you ever

tried MSM?

>

>

>

> Jody

> mom to -5.1 and -7.4