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--- spudinky wrote:

>>>> list is above name calling.>>>>>

I did not call her a direct name; I stated that when

people need to discuss things they should discuss

them.

Not get upset and leave just because we won't do what

she does. This is why I moderate the list. You would

be surprised how many people would try to sell you all

kinds of things if , Eunice, and I didn't ban

some of the messages. She had already left the list

when this was written!

My comment:

" Yes, please discuss, but when people get upset and

leave or whatever because we won't go along with their

ideas, I consider that quite childish!! "

You can take things the way you want. I know quite a

few other lists as soon as something is said that the

moderator disagrees with the person is automatically

banned!! I've been banned and I didn't even realize I

said something wrong!!!!!!!

I want discussion, but I like to give my views too!!

As moderator I should have that privilege without

being jumped on!

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I think what was trying to say was that the behavior of any individual

can be considered childish if you quit a group because you disagree. I

didn't read anything into the conversation that called her childish.

We are here to support each other, and have a few laughs. In these trying

days we need a laugh, Please lighten up people. Enjoy the holidays and

your friends and try not to get so upset at each other.

We all have our opinions on what works and doesn't work for us. They are

just that, our opinions. If we let someone else's opinion make us angry,

then we aren't supporting each other. We should discuss what works and

doesn't work, let each other know it doesn't work for us and go on.

Diabetes is hard enough without arguing over what works and doesn't work.

, you are doing a great job, take care of yourself and do not let

things upset you. You need to take care of you.

----- Original Message -----

To: <diabetes

> ,

>

> Whether you called her that directly or not, the statement was made

> about HER and HER actions. And as I have said before, on a list with

> over 400 people. I am REALLY bothered that you cannot see the in

> appropriateness of this. No one here was aware that she had unsubbed.

> A simple response to the post in question would have sufficed without

> the added insult.

>

> Yes, you are the list owner and as such you have every right to say

> whatever you want. I would hope that it didn't come down to " this is

> my sandbox and I can do what I want " . I would just prefer not see see

> such things in the future but if you feel it is appropriate then

> maybe this list isn't for me either. And no I am not being childish.

> I am speaking my mind about something that is very important to me.

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If every word of mine is going to be " judged " by the

members, then I don't need this anymore. I had a life

of judgement and pain. This list was supposed to help

others.

It sure isn't helping me. My husband once more asked

me what in the world I was doing this list for if it

hurt me so much!!

I would like to know when these 2 people became " gods "

to judge every word I say!??????

Thank you for trying to set the record straight,

!! You are " right on " with what I was saying.

Maybe I said it wrong!!

I guess I will just keep the list and not post!!!!!!

--- wrote:

> I think what was trying to say was that the

> behavior of any individual

> can be considered childish if you quit a group

> because you disagree. I

> didn't read anything into the conversation that

> called her childish.

> We are here to support each other, and have a few

> laughs. In these trying

> days we need a laugh, Please lighten up people.

> Enjoy the holidays and

> your friends and try not to get so upset at each

> other.

> We all have our opinions on what works and doesn't

> work for us. They are

> just that, our opinions. If we let someone else's

> opinion make us angry,

> then we aren't supporting each other. We should

> discuss what works and

> doesn't work, let each other know it doesn't work

> for us and go on.

> Diabetes is hard enough without arguing over what

> works and doesn't work.

> , you are doing a great job, take care of

> yourself and do not let

> things upset you. You need to take care of you.

>

> ----- Original Message -----

>

> To: <diabetes

>

>

> > ,

> >

> > Whether you called her that directly or not, the

> statement was made

> > about HER and HER actions. And as I have said

> before, on a list with

> > over 400 people. I am REALLY bothered that you

> cannot see the in

> > appropriateness of this. No one here was aware

> that she had unsubbed.

> > A simple response to the post in question would

> have sufficed without

> > the added insult.

> >

> > Yes, you are the list owner and as such you have

> every right to say

> > whatever you want. I would hope that it didn't

> come down to " this is

> > my sandbox and I can do what I want " . I would just

> prefer not see see

> > such things in the future but if you feel it is

> appropriate then

> > maybe this list isn't for me either. And no I am

> not being childish.

> > I am speaking my mind about something that is very

> important to me.

>

>

>

>

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,

You have done a lot of good with this list. You have a lot of knowledge and

wisdom about Diabetes that helps many people, such as myself a newcomer to this.

Nobody can get all their questions answered at one source and make progress.

Progress comes from the sharing of knowledge and wisdom from several sources, if

we only got our knowledge from one source we would still be living in caves

(even tho some people such as the Taliban, and Osama Bin Laden think they are

home, they will soon be seeing rubble) we have made major progress so that life

is so much easier and nicer than it was 1,000 yrs ago.

People, remember that we all have some things in common. (1) We all have

Diabetes, are the caregiver for somebody or know someone that has Diabetes. (2)

We joined this list for any one of several reasons, among the main reasons are

(a) Knowledge, to learn more how to cope with this burden called Diabetes and/or

to share our knowledge and experinces. (B) Support, the average person that

isn't dealing with diabetes doesn't understand the support that is needed to

survive. © Understanding, This is a biggie. Diabetes isn't a one size fits all

problem, each of us is different and our systems all react differently to our

meds and our diets. So if somebody says that they can do something that you

can't, be glad for them, because there is probably something that you can eat or

do that they can't. We are all here to try and learn as much as we can. We can't

try all the different meds/diets combonations but if we all share what we have

found that works for us, then it may make it easier for somebody else to find

what works for them. If one of us wins this battle then we all win. So if there

is something that somebody says that you don't agree with or doesn't fit you,

just remember that we are all different.

I would like to see more people post and share thier knowledge and experinces so

that I might get more ideas as to what might work for me. I guess what I'm

saying is this, Let's all just get along and be glad for someone else's

victories and support them on the days that they are down. There is enough

stresses involved with dealing with Diabetes that we don't need to be adding to

the stresses that our fellow Diabetics have to endure.

, I for one hope to see you continue to post and share with the rest of us.

Take Care All

Happy Holidays

Tim

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Tim,

Very well said. DITTO from me too.

I'm glad created this list. I don't post a lot because I own and

moderate a few email lists of my own and don't have a lot of time on my

hands. But, as a diabetic, I appreciate this list and all the knowledge

about this disease from people like , Madge, Eunice, yourself and

several others.

Keep up the good work, .

Ric Ross

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At 09:52 PM 12/13/2001 -0800, you wrote:

>,

>You have done a lot of good with this list. You have a lot of knowledge

>and wisdom about Diabetes that helps many people, such as myself a

>newcomer to this. Nobody can get all their questions answered at one

>source and make progress. Progress comes from the sharing of knowledge and

>wisdom from several sources, if we only got our knowledge from one source

>we would still be living in caves (even tho some people such as the

>Taliban, and Osama Bin Laden think they are home, they will soon be seeing

>rubble) we have made major progress so that life is so much easier and

>nicer than it was 1,000 yrs ago.

>People, remember that we all have some things in common. (1) We all have

>Diabetes, are the caregiver for somebody or know someone that has

>Diabetes. (2) We joined this list for any one of several reasons, among

>the main reasons are (a) Knowledge, to learn more how to cope with this

>burden called Diabetes and/or to share our knowledge and experinces. (B)

>Support, the average person that isn't dealing with diabetes doesn't

>understand the support that is needed to survive. © Understanding, This

>is a biggie. Diabetes isn't a one size fits all problem, each of us is

>different and our systems all react differently to our meds and our diets.

>So if somebody says that they can do something that you can't, be glad for

>them, because there is probably something that you can eat or do that they

>can't. We are all here to try and learn as much as we can. We can't try

>all the different meds/diets combonations but if we all share what we have

>found that works for us, then it may make it easier for somebody else to

>find what works for them. If one of us wins this battle then we all win.

>So if there is something that somebody says that you don't agree with or

>doesn't fit you, just remember that we are all different.

>I would like to see more people post and share thier knowledge and

>experinces so that I might get more ideas as to what might work for me. I

>guess what I'm saying is this, Let's all just get along and be glad for

>someone else's victories and support them on the days that they are down.

>There is enough stresses involved with dealing with Diabetes that we don't

>need to be adding to the stresses that our fellow Diabetics have to endure.

>

>, I for one hope to see you continue to post and share with the rest

>of us.

>

>Take Care All

>

>Happy Holidays

>

>Tim

>

>

>

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>

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nANCY: yOU NEVer say anything wrong. I trust your

advice and support. I am just reading my email now.

I'm not sure what happened but you are the best. I

hope you are feeling better and your son is doing well

and on the mend as well. I have been working crazy

hours so I haven't been as diligent about your group

as I should be. Marie from Boston

--- NANCY BROTZMAN wrote:

>

> --- spudinky wrote:

>

> >>>> list is above name calling.>>>>>

> I did not call her a direct name; I stated that

> when

> people need to discuss things they should discuss

> them.

> Not get upset and leave just because we won't do

> what

> she does. This is why I moderate the list. You

> would

> be surprised how many people would try to sell you

> all

> kinds of things if , Eunice, and I didn't ban

> some of the messages. She had already left the list

> when this was written!

>

> My comment:

> " Yes, please discuss, but when people get upset

> and

> leave or whatever because we won't go along with

> their

> ideas, I consider that quite childish!! "

>

> You can take things the way you want. I know quite

> a

> few other lists as soon as something is said that

> the

> moderator disagrees with the person is automatically

> banned!! I've been banned and I didn't even realize

> I

> said something wrong!!!!!!!

>

> I want discussion, but I like to give my views too!!

> As moderator I should have that privilege without

> being jumped on!

>

>

>

>

> __________________________________________________

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Thanks Marie for your vote of confidence. I guess I

should have put a little more thought into my responce

as it was taken wrong. I have to be more careful with

words.

I am so upset about my son. Still no news!!

--- Marie Hagan wrote:

> nANCY: yOU NEVer say anything wrong. I trust your

> advice and support. I am just reading my email now.

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