Re: SV: Enzymes ... Problems with fruit

[Guest guest]

Phenol Assist is already listed as SCD-legal, I think. Why doesn't anyone else

ever suggest that? I checked with Kirkman that my son is allowed to take that

along with his regular digestive enzyme.

Teri

Ian 5.5, ASD, SCD 10/03

Re: SV: Problems with fruit

Ulla,

Have you tried digestive enzymes?

Before we started enzymes (several years ago), my boys had undigested

food in their stools.

It's worth a shot anyway.

We use No Fenol for fruits and veggies.

I think the SCD legal versions of Houston's Enzymes will be ready soon.

I will write and ask.

Jody

mom to -5.1 and -7.4

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

[Guest guest]

I have never used Phenol Assist.

I only recommended No Fenol because it worked so well for my boys.

Maybe someone can share the experience with using Phenol Assist.

Jody

mom to -5.1 and -7.4

[Guest guest]

enzymes drastically alter the approach to scd particularly allowing

more latitide with dairy.

enzymes and modifyed scd allow a higher metabloic gain space than

either enzymes or scd alone and i don't think its fair to parents to

give the impression just straight scd can give the same results.

the difference between the negative effect of the toxic metabolic by

products and the gain of positive metabolic processes is the topic of

this board and you can call it scd, modiyed scd, scd and enzymes or

whatever but there is only one real process of

discovery............highlighted by progress and steady consitent

improvement.

> " perhaps for the same reason enzymes are avoided on this board. "

>

> We don't avoid enzymes. Both of my boys take enzymes every day.

>

> Enzymes just aren't the topic of this board because we have no

> expertise in enzymes.

>

> DeFelice has an excellent Yahoo group for discussing enzymes.

> She is very familiar with SCD and I am sure that people could get

> great suggestions from the Enzymesandautism list members.

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/enzymesandautism

>

> Jody

> mom to -5.1 and -7.4

[Guest guest]

,

What do you not understand about Jody's statement on why we don't discuss

enzymes here in a specific fashion?

Repeating: There is information in De Felice's book and on her web site.

She contributes valuable and informed comments on enzymes to the list

periodically.

This group was started as a companion guide for SCD.

Very often you perceive an effort to keep Pecan Bread in focus and on track

with a perception that we do not entertain approval for the use of supplements

and enzymes and view SCD as perfect and inviolate and not open to questioning.

You post scientific information that although accurate, is too technical

and confusing to those getting started.

Nothing prevents you from private discussions on these topic with people

of your choice. I have enjoyed several such interesting exchanges with you

and hope this can continue.

This list now has nearly 600 and if we don't do the job we committed to we

will not be effective with our stated mission.

Specific enzyme recommendations were not written into the original SCD. For

autism we have included legal and illegal lists but we simply cannot get people

started, keep them on track and be all things to all people caring for autism

children.

As adults, both you and I do not have the pressures and constraints that the

parents here do.

I have told you privately and am repeating publicly that Elaine has often

stated she doesn't purport to know every answer to everything and has relied

on the foundations set out by the doctors Haas when in doubt. She continues

to study the latest research and to instigate research of SCD.

Possibly, future research will require changes to SCD. Elaine already removed

a few items that could not be relied on as she gained new perceptions of their

effects and/or formulation.

Weight control companies like to revise their diets every few years to renew

their appeal and attract new customers. We don't do that as SCD is about

healing,

not selling! We don't have to be " sexy. "

I repeat, we are in healing, not in business. The only thing we are selling

is the book needed for the diet and you can read it in the library if you

choose.

Meanwhile there is no visible pressing need to make the revisions you refer

to from time to time. This attitude is severely trying the patience of those

who moderate the list but they hesitate to exclude anyone's voice or

participation.

I apologize if we are not sufficiently progressive here. You often criticize

how the group is run yet you remain here so one can only presume that you

certainly see some value in it.

Please keep in mind we have 573 other people to consider and this diet will

not be revised to your specifications.

This is not directed to you as a person but at certain criticisms you frequently

express.

>

> the difference between the negative effect of the toxic metabolic by

> products and the gain of positive metabolic processes is the topic of

> this board and you can call it scd, modiyed scd, scd and enzymes or

> whatever but there is only one real process of

> discovery............highlighted by progress and steady consitent

> improvement.

>

>

Carol F.

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c.frilegh@...

Toronto , Celiac SCD 2 years

There is no substitute for the right food!