Guest guest Posted March 4, 2007 Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 However, we have had women that have had saline implants with silicone in the capsules--- verified silicone in the capsules. So....draw your own conclusions? Patty freebindi <bindi@...> wrote: Re: article on proteins Dear Melinda, I know of no scientific studies that show linkage to capsules. Think about it. A capsule is a RESPONSE to a foreign body. Once the stimulus is removed, the reaction goes. Think: splinter . If you get a splinter in your finger, there is a response which causes hardness and pain and a lump. Remove the splinter and the response subsides. Here you have a BIG foreign body. That's all At least this is what I believe. Even in gel capsules, the reasons for removing it is because it contains silicone. This is NOT the case with saline where NO silicone is found in the capsules Dr M AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.7/710 - Release Date: 3/4/2007 1:58 PM Never Miss an EmailStay connected with on your mobile. Get started! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2007 Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 -Patty, Is right I was one who had free floating silicone and was positive for silicone in my breast tissue on my pathology report.In my supposed safe saline implants. I had to go back for a second surgery to removed residual capusle that was left behind at explant because it was thought that it didn't need to be removed, it is very important to remove capsules peiod. I am living proof, my DR. that did remove the capsule found BLUE NODULES and free floating silicone and had to do what she calls alot of dissecting, She is the chief of surgery and mostly deals with cancer patients. Terri P -- In , Tricia Trish <glory2glory1401@...> wrote: > > However, we have had women that have had saline implants with silicone in the capsules--- verified silicone in the capsules. So....draw your own conclusions? > Patty > > > freebindi <bindi@...> wrote: > > Re: article on proteins > > > > Dear Melinda, > > I know of no scientific studies that show linkage to capsules. > > Think about it. A capsule is a RESPONSE to a foreign body. Once the stimulus is removed, the reaction goes. Think: splinter . If you get a splinter in your finger, there is a response which causes hardness and pain and a lump. Remove the splinter and the response subsides. Here you have a BIG foreign body. That's all > > At least this is what I believe. Even in gel capsules, the reasons for removing it is because it contains silicone. This is NOT the case with saline where NO silicone is found in the capsules > > Dr M > > > > > --------------------------------- > AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. > > --------------------------------- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.7/710 - Release Date: 3/4/2007 1:58 PM > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Never Miss an Email > Stay connected with on your mobile. Get started! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2007 Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 I am glad I had my capsules removed even though I had saline. I didn't want anything in my body that might contain anything related to the implants - actually Dr. Feng believes the capsules must be removed if you're symptomatic and I used her, so there wasn't an issue. Each doctor does have slightly different opinions, but if I were to use a doctor who didn't think salines needed capsule removal, I'd ask them to remove them for my own peace of mind. Sis > > Re: article on proteins > > > > Dear Melinda, > > I know of no scientific studies that show linkage to capsules. > > Think about it. A capsule is a RESPONSE to a foreign body. Once the stimulus is removed, the reaction goes. Think: splinter . If you get a splinter in your finger, there is a response which causes hardness and pain and a lump. Remove the splinter and the response subsides. Here you have a BIG foreign body. That's all > > At least this is what I believe. Even in gel capsules, the reasons for removing it is because it contains silicone. This is NOT the case with saline where NO silicone is found in the capsules > > Dr M > > > > > --------------------------------- > AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. > > --------------------------------- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.7/710 - Release Date: 3/4/2007 1:58 PM > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Never Miss an Email > Stay connected with on your mobile. Get started! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2007 Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 Yes, but we still don't know why women are getting sick. My capsules were tested and found totally clear-- no silicone, no nothing. I've had a platinum test, a mercury test, a silicone sensitivity test, a comprehensive mold tests-- all negative. My ANA level has never been high. All my tests have been normal, with the exception of cortisol, and later when I was retested it was normal. Yet I was sicker than most people get, and it started almost immediately after implantation. It’s frustrating not to know what, exactly, is making us sick. If we knew, it would change everything. It’s complex, isn’t it! I found Dr. Blais’ comment interesting– that the body is responding to the implant by creating an abscess, and that is why we have symptoms. Bindi Re: article on proteins Dear Melinda, I know of no scientific studies tht show linkage to capsules. Think about it. A capsule is a RESPONSE to a foreign body. Once the stimulus is removed, the reaction goes. Think: splinter . If you get a splinter in your finger, there is a response which causes hardness and pain and a lump. Remove the splinter and the response subsides. Here you have a BIG foreign body. That's all At least this is what I believe. Even in gel capsules, the reasons for removing it is because it contains silicone. This is NOT the case with saline where NO silicone is found in the capsules Dr M AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.7/710 - Release Date: 3/4/2007 1:58 PM Never Miss an EmailStay connected with on your mobile. Get started! No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.7/710 - Release Date: 3/4/2007 1:58 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2007 Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 Terri And since there is silicone found in the capsules which are " external " to the implant, ...then it stands to reason there is silicon leaking into the saline of the implant. Right? And if there is absolutely any osmosis or permeability issues with the implant, then silicone is leaking. I now regret tossing out my implants and my capsules. > > > > Re: article on proteins > > > > > > > > Dear Melinda, > > > > I know of no scientific studies that show linkage to capsules. > > > > Think about it. A capsule is a RESPONSE to a foreign body. Once > the stimulus is removed, the reaction goes. Think: splinter . If you > get a splinter in your finger, there is a response which causes > hardness and pain and a lump. Remove the splinter and the response > subsides. Here you have a BIG foreign body. That's all > > > > At least this is what I believe. Even in gel capsules, the > reasons for removing it is because it contains silicone. This is NOT > the case with saline where NO silicone is found in the capsules > > > > Dr M > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's > free from AOL at AOL.com. > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.7/710 - Release Date: > 3/4/2007 1:58 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Never Miss an Email > > Stay connected with on your mobile. Get started! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2007 Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 I think it was also Dr. Blais...who used the analogy of a bullet wound and breast implants. We will always have an affect of some kind from " the wound " . Kind of a horrid way to think about it...but very true. > > Re: article on proteins > > > Dear Melinda, > > I know of no scientific studies tht show linkage to capsules. > > Think about it. A capsule is a RESPONSE to a foreign body. Once the stimulus is removed, the reaction goes. Think: splinter . If you get a splinter in your finger, there is a response which causes hardness and pain and a lump. Remove the splinter and the response subsides. Here you have a BIG foreign body. That's all > > At least this is what I believe. Even in gel capsules, the reasons for removing it is because it contains silicone. This is NOT the case with saline where NO silicone is found in the capsules > > Dr M > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- --------- > AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- --------- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.7/710 - Release Date: 3/4/2007 1:58 PM > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- > Never Miss an Email > Stay connected with on your mobile. Get started! > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.7/710 - Release Date: 3/4/2007 1:58 PM > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2007 Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 Bindi, I agree with what he wrote.... Except think of Saline that is defective, with mold, fungi and bacteria leaking slowly into that capsule? I think important to remove if you look at it like that... I am not bashing but does Dr. Melmed believe Saline implants make women sick or just silicone? ~AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2007 Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 HI Bindi, I agree, it is frustrating as to why we are sick. I sure wish we had more specific answers. This protein issue is intriguing to say the least. Pattyfreebindi <bindi@...> wrote: Yes, but we still don't know why women are getting sick. My capsules were tested and found totally clear-- no silicone, no nothing. I've had a platinum test, a mercury test, a silicone sensitivity test, a comprehensive mold tests-- all negative. My ANA level has never been high. All my tests have been normal, with the exception of cortisol, and later when I was retested it was normal. Yet I was sicker than most people get, and it started almost immediately after implantation. It’s frustrating not to know what, exactly, is making us sick. If we knew, it would change everything. It’s complex, isn’t it! I found Dr. Blais’ comment interesting– that the body is responding to the implant by creating an abscess, and that is why we have symptoms. Bindi Re: article on proteins Dear Melinda, I know of no scientific studies tht show linkage to capsules. Think about it. A capsule is a RESPONSE to a foreign body. Once the stimulus is removed, the reaction goes. Think: splinter . If you get a splinter in your finger, there is a response which causes hardness and pain and a lump. Remove the splinter and the response subsides. Here you have a BIG foreign body. That's all At least this is what I believe. Even in gel capsules, the reasons for removing it is because it contains silicone. This is NOT the case with saline where NO silicone is found in the capsules Dr M AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.7/710 - Release Date: 3/4/2007 1:58 PM Never Miss an EmailStay connected with on your mobile. Get started! No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.7/710 - Release Date: 3/4/2007 1:58 PM Need Mail bonding?Go to the Q&A for great tips from Answers users. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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