Guest guest Posted October 9, 2001 Report Share Posted October 9, 2001 Hi, My son, 4, has had two stool tests which showed tons of abnormal bacterial growth but never yeast. Yet his two Organic Acid Tests I think have shown presence of yeast metabolites (high citramalic, high 3-oxyglutaric, high arabinose). He shows other symptoms which I feel could be attributed to yeast; hyperactivity, hypoglycemia, occasional rear-end rash, constipation, mood swings to name a few. Does this seem like yeast, despite no yeast showing up on stool? If yeast isn't present in stool, does that mean no yeast, or can there still be yeast? Didn't someone post recently about a type of yeast not found in stool? What types of yeast wouldn't show up in stool, and how should they be attacked? Or does yeast not sound likely? For the record, we're gfcfsf, have been using probiotics for six months (Pro-Culture Gold), and have eliminated sugar, corn, yeast, egg, nuts, artificial colorings and flavors, high salycilate and phenol foods. I strongly suspect sulphur/phenol problems. Eating around here is really yucky. I tried enzymes, but my son got really hyper on them, but am going to try again and stick it out a bit longer. Any help greatly appreciated, Debbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2001 Report Share Posted October 10, 2001 did you try the houston enzymes? we had side effects for 3 weeks but they are helping. but I am going to ask about the rice bran.....I am beginning to think rice is suspect around here. we are presently cutting down, almost out, on potatoes for a few days......his other favourite. will do them seperately, I think, then have a go at together, in case one masks less symptoms of the other........do I make sense? meantime, candid-specific transfer factor seems to be helping- still pretty bouncy, but lots more interaction, and beginning to take part in some of the pretend play, also great eye-contact improvement. Re: [ ] Yeast question Hi, My son, 4, has had two stool tests which showed tons of abnormal bacterial growth but never yeast. Yet his two Organic Acid Tests I think have shown presence of yeast metabolites (high citramalic, high 3-oxyglutaric, high arabinose). He shows other symptoms which I feel could be attributed to yeast; hyperactivity, hypoglycemia, occasional rear-end rash, constipation, mood swings to name a few. Does this seem like yeast, despite no yeast showing up on stool? If yeast isn't present in stool, does that mean no yeast, or can there still be yeast? Didn't someone post recently about a type of yeast not found in stool? What types of yeast wouldn't show up in stool, and how should they be attacked? Or does yeast not sound likely? For the record, we're gfcfsf, have been using probiotics for six months (Pro-Culture Gold), and have eliminated sugar, corn, yeast, egg, nuts, artificial colorings and flavors, high salycilate and phenol foods. I strongly suspect sulphur/phenol problems. Eating around here is really yucky. I tried enzymes, but my son got really hyper on them, but am going to try again and stick it out a bit longer. Any help greatly appreciated, Debbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2001 Report Share Posted October 10, 2001 | Does this seem like yeast, despite no yeast showing up on stool? If yeast | isn't present in stool, does that mean no yeast, or can there still be yeast? | Didn't someone post recently about a type of yeast not found in stool? What | types of yeast wouldn't show up in stool, and how should they be attacked? My daughter had a bad reaction to FOS, and showed no yeast on the Great Smokies CDSA. I was told that this was because she has cell wall-less yeast (which doesn't show up on the CDSA) and that FOS feeds this kind of yeast (which is why FOS is bad for some). Our DAN doctor said (if I remember correctly) that there are 4 kinds of yeast, 2 cell wall-less and 2 with cell walls that would show up on the stool test. If the OAT shows yeast metabolites, then you can assume yeast is a problem. (ly, I'd assume ALL of our kids has a yeast problem. In fact, our environmental allergist has said he feels that all ADD/ADHD kids ought to do a trial of Nystatin.) Given all of this, my daughter responded very well to a very low grain/low simple carbohydrate diet. Push the protein and veggies as much as possible. Take plenty of probiotics. I'm hoping chelation will eventually solve this mess. | I tried enzymes, but my son got really hyper on them, but am going to try | again and stick it out a bit longer. You could always ramp up the enzyme dose from a tiny one, to acclimate his gut to them. Personally, I think it's wise to ramp up on all supplements. K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2002 Report Share Posted January 17, 2002 ---, what type of test did he have? Did if have a specific name? Patti In @y..., " Moffett " <juliemoffett@y...> wrote: > Hi! > > I had my 6 year old (Asperger's Syndrome) son tested for yeast about 3 > months ago when we started the GFCF diet and the enzymes. He tested > negative for candida. But he has the horrible rashes on his bottom that > come and go and now he is complaning of a horrible itching in his bottom. > He has a red bumpy rash inside . He also has been chewing his clothes like > crazy and I read somewhere that this can be do to yeast overgrowth. Could > he have another type of yeast? Or could he have developed candida since we > tested him 3 months ago? Should I have him restested or just take him to > the peditrician and ask for anti-yeast medication? Does anyone have any > suggestions? > > Cz. > > > _________________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2002 Report Share Posted January 17, 2002 i heard that these tesy are only 50% accurate is this true? --- Moffett <juliemoffett@...> wrote: > Hi! > > I had my 6 year old (Asperger's Syndrome) son tested > for yeast about 3 > months ago when we started the GFCF diet and the > enzymes. He tested > negative for candida. But he has the horrible > rashes on his bottom that > come and go and now he is complaning of a horrible > itching in his bottom. > He has a red bumpy rash inside . He also has been > chewing his clothes like > crazy and I read somewhere that this can be do to > yeast overgrowth. Could > he have another type of yeast? Or could he have > developed candida since we > tested him 3 months ago? Should I have him > restested or just take him to > the peditrician and ask for anti-yeast medication? > Does anyone have any > suggestions? > > Cz. > > > _________________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2002 Report Share Posted January 18, 2002 > Hi! > > I had my 6 year old (Asperger's Syndrome) son tested for yeast about 3 > months ago when we started the GFCF diet and the enzymes. He tested > negative for candida. But he has the horrible rashes on his bottom that > come and go and now he is complaning of a horrible itching in his bottom. > He has a red bumpy rash inside . He also has been chewing his clothes like > crazy and I read somewhere that this can be do to yeast overgrowth. Could > he have another type of yeast? There are several types of yeast yes. > Or could he have developed candida since we > tested him 3 months ago? This also, especially if you are chelating with ALA. My son NEVER had a yeast issue until about round 7 of ALA. Should I have him restested or just take him to > the peditrician and ask for anti-yeast medication? To get an rx I think you would have to have him tested. I use GSE from health food store [non rx] for my son's yeast issues. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2002 Report Share Posted August 22, 2002 Caprylic Acid - Found this on it today: http://www.wholehealthmd.com/refshelf/substances_view/1,1525,10111,00.html May have to track it down online first. I'm in Canada, so I'm likely to be useless in helping you resource it. --- cliffybayer <mjbowman@...> wrote: > Where do you get Calpyrlic Acid(did I spell that > right?)? I looked at > Walgreen's in the vitamin section and didn't see it. > > Thanks, > Janelle > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2002 Report Share Posted August 23, 2002 Janelle, Check your local healthfood store, there were a few brands available at mine. > Where do you get Calpyrlic Acid(did I spell that right?)? I looked at > Walgreen's in the vitamin section and didn't see it. > Thanks, > Janelle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2002 Report Share Posted October 11, 2002 > Hi all - What are the symptoms of yeast overgrowth? - I have info on my page here http://www.autismchannel.net/dana/yeast.htm Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2003 Report Share Posted January 15, 2003 > > Okay, the question finally .... what are the symptoms of yeast > overgrowth? I don't mean the obvious ones, like foamy, stringy poops. > I mean the other less obvious symptoms. One of my kids gets goopy green eye discharge. Another one gets whiteheads all over his body. Another one gets a red bloody rash that he scratches all the time and makes it bleed, plus the skin on his fingers peels. Another one gets really silly. This is in addition to the yeast bms. Also, three of them get hyper like a phenol reaction, and have trouble sleeping. Other ideas here http://www.danasview.net/yeast.htm Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2003 Report Share Posted December 26, 2003 my son definately has yeast and we chelate. We have tried getting rid of yeast without chelation and you never really wipe it out. Even with or I should say especially with the 3-4 week courses of scripts. Look at all the folks who are not mercury poisoned who have yeast problems. Go to bodyecologydiet.com for example. My good friend, has been on CaveMan diet and yeast/parasite/bacteria protocal for 9 months and still has flair ups. My son has been chealting for 2 years. In the past 7 months he has been on SCD diet minus honey and most fruits and rotating anti-fungals and we have been chealting and his yeast has come DOWN. We test his urine every month for yeast. So I guess what I'm saying is for my son who definately has yeast- diet, anti-fungal rotation and chelation using low dose-Andy's protocal has worked at keeping the yeast from going wild. Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2003 Report Share Posted December 26, 2003 > Does everyone have yeast problems when they chelate? My son has never > had a yeast problem (that I'm aware of) we will begin chelating > soon....is yeast inevitable? Not IF, but WHEN you get yeast? My son never had yeast, that I know of, but he did have yeast issues during ALA chelation. I was able to keep it under control with sugar *reduction* [not full removal] and GSE. http://www.danasview.net/yeast.htm Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2004 Report Share Posted September 11, 2004 , Sometimes the yeast doesn't rear it's ugly head but tartarate acid will show up on a urine profile. Its what gets released as a toxin from yeast. R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2004 Report Share Posted September 12, 2004 > How do you know if there is a yeast issue? For my kids, bms and/or behaviors http://www.danasview.net/yeast.htm > the past month, behavior has regressed and stool is super watery, For my kids, " super watery " bm meant either a food/supplement they did not tolerate, or bacteria. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2005 Report Share Posted February 4, 2005 > He has had some changes in the last month. He started early > childhood preschool, started Houston enzymes and had step throat > all within the last month. Strep can lead to PANDAS http://intramural.nimh.nih.gov/research/pdn/web.htm http://www.enzymestory.com/PANDAS.html > When is the best time to give GSE? Should I give him no-phenol > before a meal and include the GSE then, or should I do it seperately? Give it in the morning. Giving GSE without food is more effective, but it can be *too* effective. It can also be hard on the stomach. > I don't know how many times a day no-phenol should be given. As often as required, and that your child tolerates. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2005 Report Share Posted April 15, 2005 > > Being new to all this and not having a DAN or anyone helping medically, > I have been studying the net and this group for help. I see alot of > talk about YEAST.... Testing for Yeast, What information is out > there to help me figure out if my dd has a yeast problem? Yeast info here http://www.danasview.net/yeast.htm Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2005 Report Share Posted August 7, 2005 >>but now seems to have yeast - his poop was fluffy > and airy (unusual for him) Yes, this can mean yeast. > My question is, would 2 weeks on enzymes cause yeast die off? Possibly. Try adding probiotics, see if that helps. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2005 Report Share Posted August 7, 2005 Are probiotics and acidophilus the same thing? > >>but now seems to have yeast - his poop was fluffy > > and airy (unusual for him) > > > Yes, this can mean yeast. > > > > My question is, would 2 weeks on enzymes cause yeast die off? > > > Possibly. Try adding probiotics, see if that helps. > > Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 > Are probiotics and acidophilus the same thing?--- Acidophilus is one type of probiotic. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 There's no hard and fast rule here. People switch yeast killers and use what works for their child. Barb [ ] Yeast Question Ok I have been reading Dana's website alot lately, and I have a yeast question now. Before starting chelation we treated my sons yeast with nystatin for about 6 weeks. Now after starting I am using three lac, and some days culterelle, swawson probiotic, or florasource. Do I need to both three lac and culterelle? Should I try GSE instead? I want to make sure I am taking care of his yeast problem. Our doc doesn't act really thrilled with threelac, but I like it for myself. It does make my sons bms runny though. whereas he was firmer after the nystatin was through. Thanks all Mandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 >>Do I need to both three lac and > culterelle? Should I try GSE instead? Depends on if these are helping his yeast problem, or if he still has yeast despite using them. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2006 Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 > > I have a question regarding a possible yeast problem. My son from time to > time will start stuttering when he's saying his " s " words. One of my kids has this problem, usually associated with virus issues. > Has anyone seen this before? Just wondered if it could be yeast related? It might be yeast related for your child. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2007 Report Share Posted April 6, 2007 Hey Girl, have you gotten any better at all ? Have you been able to go back to work ? See what's free at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2007 Report Share Posted April 6, 2007 is itchy scalp, acne and oily face and slurred speech all yeast symptoms ? these are ones i have right now with my memory loss and confusion and brain fog thagt i didnt have after capsules removed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2007 Report Share Posted April 6, 2007 i got SO much better had fibro pain but brain fog was almost gonewas organizing and working from home. everything is back now and im scared.its in thsome of the posts.On 4/6/07, GMCLADY98@... <GMCLADY98@...> wrote: Hey Girl, have you gotten any better at all ? Have you been able to go back to work ? See what's free at AOL.com. -- gretchen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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