Guest guest Posted March 4, 2007 Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 Immunosciences Lab in CA does a panel called Silicone Implant Panel Comprehensive. They also do fungal antibody panels. Dr. Vojdani who runs this lab is truly a friend to us. He is one of the smartest men I have ever known. BTW, he knows a lot about HLA typing. Lynda At 03:27 PM 3/4/2007, you wrote: >What tests do we take to determine the status of our immune >systems? Would these be lymphocyte type testing? > > > > > > > > > > > Rogene, > > > > > > > > I eat garlic, nothing is working, my Man got sick and gave me > > >this... Next > > > > time anyone is sick in this house I promise I am leaving. My > > >immune system > > > > can't handle this.... Hotel bound I will have to go, >something... > > >I am so sick > > > > right now.... > > > > > > > > ~ > > > > <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now > > >offers free > > > > email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at > > > > <<http://www.aol.com.>http://www.aol.com.>http://www.aol.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > >---------- > > >No virus found in this incoming message. > > >Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > >Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.7/710 > > >- Release Date: 3/4/2007 1:58 PM > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2007 Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 Thanks Lynda. Let me look it up. > > > > > > > > > > Rogene, > > > > > > > > > > I eat garlic, nothing is working, my Man got sick and gave me > > > >this... Next > > > > > time anyone is sick in this house I promise I am leaving. My > > > >immune system > > > > > can't handle this.... Hotel bound I will have to go, > >something... > > > >I am so sick > > > > > right now.... > > > > > > > > > > ~ > > > > > <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now > > > >offers free > > > > > email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at > > > > > <<http://www.aol.com.>http://www.aol.com.>http://www.aol.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >---------- > > > >No virus found in this incoming message. > > > >Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > >Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.7/710 > > > >- Release Date: 3/4/2007 1:58 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2007 Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 Nan,With all the stuff you're taking from Dr. Kolb, you're hering pretty heavy right now . . Give yourself another week or two and you should start seeing major changes.Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2007 Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 Rogene, I take my probiotics faithfully daily.... I am just scared being put on antibiotics, don't this kill good bacteria and give us yeast? ~AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2007 Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 , Try to use Goat Milk Soap, it really helps with my dryness..... I do the olive oil after a shower also, this works good..... I just bought the coconut oil our Rogene raves about, I may try this too.... I read that it is good for Hair?? You do have to rinse this off though..... I will let you know how it works for me.... IMPORTANT TIP FOR ALL TO READ: IBS RELIEF FOR MYSELF ANYWAY Wanted to add this if anyone on this site is on Butyren or Butyrate, this is a digestive enzyme..... This is also mixed with calcium/magnesium, with butyrate.... I had the IBS daily for so long now..... I stopped the butyrate totally.... I add a small amount of lemon juice to my water, sip water.... Then bought the liquid form or magnesium/calcium/vitamin D... NO more diarrhea at least for two days now.... Miracle....Watch out for too many digestive enzymes added to other important magnesium/calcium..... Plus if taking mg/calcium with no vitamin d, it will not work.... The mixture of liquid with all three ingredients was like $9.00, so if it worked and stop my IBS, I will be a happy camper..... Thought you all may benefit from this tip.... Good Luck ~ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2007 Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 Lea, You are so sweet.... I just say I want to run when my family gets sick around me since this is the second time I have caught a sickness from there colds.... I say next time they get sick I may just go stay at a hotel or my sister's house, she wouldn't mind me doing that... I think my immune system is so low right now, I catch everything in the wind... I can't stand going out into public in fear of catching another sickness going around.. So scary being this sick with implants, much less on top of implants sickness, getting another sickness.... Grrrrr I can't be mean to my family, they have put up with to much from my breast implant sickness to throw them out for getting a common cold... LOL Sound inviting though, wonder if they will understand. LOL Lea you are so sweet, try to stay well and Thanks for the post you made me smile. God Bless ~AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2007 Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 -Thanks Rogene I really needed that encouragement. It has been so painful and when I go out I feel like a freak, I am unable to do the normal things everyone is doing. I just keep hoping it will get better. And I did lose too much weight, 8 lbs this week, and I look too thin, so I may have to modify this diet (I am going to write to dr kolb at the end of the week). And to top it off I went to get a bra so I can get out of the sports bra a bit, and I cried! My poor little breasts have been through a lot, and for those who have lift scars, maybe you will relate to the feeling of just being cut up so much. I think when these fade I will feel better. Thanks again it has been an emotional couple of months. Love Nan -- In , Rogene S <saxony01@...> wrote: > > Nan, > > With all the stuff you're taking from Dr. Kolb, you're hering pretty heavy right now . . > > Give yourself another week or two and you should start seeing major changes. > > Rogene > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2007 Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 Nan, I feel for you. I am getting explanted in 9 days. Just hang in there...just like the scars you had when you were implanted...these too will fade and you will be your gorgeous natural self! nnnttwilliams <nnnttwilliams@...> wrote: -Thanks Rogene I really needed that encouragement. It has been so painful and when I go out I feel like a freak, I am unable to do the normal things everyone is doing. I just keep hoping it will get better. And I did lose too much weight, 8 lbs this week, and I look too thin, so I may have to modify this diet (I am going to write to dr kolb at the end of the week). And to top it off I went to get a bra so I can get out of the sports bra a bit, and I cried! My poor little breasts have been through a lot, and for those who have lift scars, maybe you will relate to the feeling of just being cut up so much. I think when these fade I will feel better. Thanks again it has been an emotional couple of months. Love Nan-- In , Rogene S <saxony01@...> wrote:>> Nan,> > With all the stuff you're taking from Dr. Kolb, you're hering pretty heavy right now . . > > Give yourself another week or two and you should start seeing major changes.> > Rogene> It's here! Your new message!Get new email alerts with the free Toolbar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2007 Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 Nan, It will be as long as a year before you'll know what you'll look like . . . You'll begin "fluffing" soon and will begin to look normal . . . It's too early to worry about how flat you are . . or what the scars look like.. . Hugs, Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2007 Report Share Posted March 5, 2007 , Sometimes we just have to accept that good bacteria will get killed and replace them as fast as we can. . . You have to decide if it's something you can handle naturally, or if you need to do antibiotics. . . Like Lynda says, she hasn't used antibiotics at all in about 20 years. She'd be a good one to share what the alternatives are. . . IMHO, you can USUALLY manage without antibiotics. . . But, when you need them, you need them. . . Don't be afraid. You know how to set things right. Love, Rogene toxicsalines@... wrote: Rogene, I take my probiotics faithfully daily.... I am just scared being put on antibiotics, don't this kill good bacteria and give us yeast? ~ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2007 Report Share Posted March 5, 2007 Honey, I am glad that I made you laugh, but when my is toxic I always tell him to go to the university if he wants to be in a bad mood. There is no room in our lives for moody people. This is hard for our families because they do not know what we are feeling. We just want you to get well and to enjoy life....love you........Lea ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~` Re: Rogene Lea, You are so sweet.... I just say I want to run when my family gets sick around me since this is the second time I have caught a sickness from there colds.... I say next time they get sick I may just go stay at a hotel or my sister's house, she wouldn't mind me doing that... I think my immune system is so low right now, I catch everything in the wind... I can't stand going out into public in fear of catching another sickness going around.. So scary being this sick with implants, much less on top of implants sickness, getting another sickness.... Grrrrr I can't be mean to my family, they have put up with to much from my breast implant sickness to throw them out for getting a common cold... LOL Sound inviting though, wonder if they will understand. LOL Lea you are so sweet, try to stay well and Thanks for the post you made me smile. God Bless ~ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2007 Report Share Posted March 5, 2007 Nan, Did you send your implants off to Dr. Blais for testing? Sounds like you had a defective valve..... No stirred up bio-toxins... You are still early after explant, it takes time and seems like an eternity. Hang in there. God Bless ~AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2007 Report Share Posted March 5, 2007 Rogene, Yes I know that I have not taken one for around 10 months so that was a miracle in itself. I had no choice my lungs were filling up quick and didn't want pneumonia to set in..... I plan to get a good anti-fungal? Do you think I should take a prescription one or the one from garden of life? ~AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2007 Report Share Posted March 5, 2007 Lea, I am way better since I found you ladies, so that is a blessing. I don't let anyone stress me out, learned that early in the ball game our bodies don't handle stress what so ever... This sickness is very hard on our loved ones, I feel for them sometimes worse than myself.. I am getting better, I think I need more time, hopefully one day I will post, hey I feel well....... God Bless ~AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2007 Report Share Posted March 5, 2007 Some women have found that taking prescription diflucan for two weeks first, then going to the Garden of Life products has worked for them. I will let others who have done this respond. Lynda At 02:45 PM 3/5/2007, you wrote: >Rogene, > >Yes I know that I have not taken one for around 10 months so that >was a miracle in itself. I had no choice my lungs were filling up >quick and didn't want pneumonia to set in..... > >I plan to get a good anti-fungal? Do you think I should take a >prescription one or the one from garden of life? > >~ > > > > >---------- >AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's >free from AOL at ><http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/1615326657x4311227241x4298082137/aol?redir=http%\ 3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eaol%2Ecom>AOL.com. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2007 Report Share Posted March 5, 2007 , The way I look at it, prescription antifungals are a way to get a jump start when you have a very bad problem. . . The toxic die-off is harder on your system. You are more likely to build up resistance to prescription antifungals than to natural products. If you can give yourself a little more time, I believe Garden of Life products are the way to go . .. Undoubtedly, there are other products . . .I'm not challenging these products. When I found GOL, I found I found a winner, and have stuck with it. . . They have a product that supports Dr. Rubins' protocols, they are high quality and effective. I also like the idea that we can point someone in a single direction and know they will find what they need there instead of a "little of this and a little of that" . . With Fungal Defense, you start with one capsule at night, add one the next morning, take one at night, then, following the same pattern of morning and night, add one more capsule each day until you're taking eight capsules a day. . . This will use up one bottle in about two weeks. . . If you get too uncomfortable, you can ramp it up more slowly. . . Fungal Defense are live organisms that will kill off the negative organism in your body. . . Then you switch to Primal Defense . . . starting with the same pattern of adding one a day until you're taking eight a day . . .This you will need to do indefinitely . . . The closer you follow an antifungal diet, the sooner you can cut back. Primal Defense are more live organisms that are intended to build colonies of organisms that, when firmly established, keep the bad organisms under control. Hugs and prayers, Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2007 Report Share Posted March 9, 2007 ok, will do, thank you ~ have a blessed day ! DedeAOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2007 Report Share Posted March 9, 2007 You're not the only one! . . . Send failure messages to: <postmaster@...>, Lynda <coss@...> wrote: I am getting failure messages again.LyndaFrom: MAILER-DAEMONn13 (DOT) bullet.sp1.To: cossprivateiSubject: failure noticeSorry, we were unable to deliver your message to the following address.<mandywllm >:Remote host said: 554 delivery error: dd This account has been temporarily suspended. Please try again later. - mta528.mail.mud. [bODY]--- Below this line is a copy of the message.Received: from [216.252.122.217] by n13.bullet.sp1. with NNFMP; 09 Mar 2007 04:47:33 -0000Received: from [66.218.69.4] by t2.bullet.sp1. with NNFMP; 09 Mar 2007 04:47:33 -0000Received: from [66.218.66.34] by t4.bullet.scd. with NNFMP; 09 Mar 2007 04:47:33 -0000X--Newman-Id: 2040647-m79461X-Sender: cossprivateiX-Apparently- Received: (qmail 47397 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2007 04:47:32 -0000Received: from unknown (66.218.67.33)by m28.grp.scd. with QMQP; 9 Mar 2007 04:47:32 -0000Received: from unknown (HELO mzpi5.forethought.net) (216.241.36.14)by mta7.grp.scd. with SMTP; 9 Mar 2007 04:47:32 -0000Received: from 71-208-96-200.hlrn.qwest.net ([71.208.96.200] helo=Lynda.privatei.com)by mz3.forethought.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.51)id 1HPX0r-0000xs-PIfor ; Thu, 08 Mar 2007 21:47:30 -0700Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.2.20070308214738.021a6ba0privatei>X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 In-Reply-<esqlmo+f2ngeGroups>References: <01a601c761a7$acb90db0$6401a8c0@yourae066c3a9b><esqlmo+f2ngeGroups>X-Originating-IP: 216.241.36.14X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0From: Lynda <cossprivatei>X--Profile: lyndaroth2004Sender: MIME-Version: 1.0Mailing-List: list ; contact -owner Delivered-mailing list List-Id: < .>Precedence: bulkList-Unsubscribe: <mailto: -unsubscribe >Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 21:47:49 -0700Subject: Re: Re: Questions on yeast?Reply- X--Newman-Property: groups-email-ffContent-Type: multipart/alternative;boundary="WIilcezQFo0pq4EWEgtidjE-EuQUuCpT-q9vqtM" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2007 Report Share Posted March 9, 2007 Rogene and Sue, what a darling picture. I will print it off and frame it. We have several pictures of women who have come into our lives through the groups. It is nice to see who we are writing to, you are both beautiful. Sue, I have been told not to travel because of the embolisms, but if we keep moving around it should be okay to travel. I am afraid of flying and driving, and I must learn to overcome this fear. wants me to go to England with him because he wants to go home for a visit! Love to you both...........Lea ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Re: Rogene I'm attaching the photo . . . In fact, I'll copy it to the group for those who read via email. I thought I had sent it to you before! Australia sounds wonderful . . . As for handling the long flight . .. talk to your doctor about things that can make it easier for you .. Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2007 Report Share Posted March 9, 2007 Rogene, Thanks for re-sending the pic... You ladies are lovely... I am so sorry Sue is so sick from these deadly implants. God Be With Her Daily... God Bless ~AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2007 Report Share Posted March 9, 2007 That's me on the left . .. Sue on the right. We met while I was in London last fall. Sue is a wonderful lady. I hate to see her so sick. She looks good . . . but that's just on the outside. I was still feeling jet lag! Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2007 Report Share Posted March 10, 2007 Thanks for this gorgeous picture Rogene! I want to post this in the photos section so we can all see you beautiful ladies! PattyRogene S <saxony01@...> wrote: I'm attaching the photo . . . In fact, I'll copy it to the group for those who read via email. I thought I had sent it to you before! Australia sounds wonderful . . . As for handling the long flight . .. talk to your doctor about things that can make it easier for you .. Rogene Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Travel to find your fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2007 Report Share Posted March 10, 2007 Rogene, Didn't you meet up with another lady in the Canary Islands? PattyRogene S <saxony01@...> wrote: I'm attaching the photo . . . In fact, I'll copy it to the group for those who read via email. I thought I had sent it to you before! Australia sounds wonderful . . . As for handling the long flight . .. talk to your doctor about things that can make it easier for you .. Rogene Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast with the Search weather shortcut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2007 Report Share Posted March 10, 2007 No . . I had hoped to, but at the last minute was too sick and broke to travel. She had planned to fly with her sister to meet me in Spain. I haven't heard from her for a while . .. I hope she's doing OK . .. She was still struggling the last time I heard from her. Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 If you are calling CRP, C-REactive protein, I did. Mine was high every time my doctor did blood work the last three years. Three years ago, is when I got really sick. Three months after my implants were out...my C-Reactive Protein was normal. Hope this helps, Nan, > > It sounds like you're on the right track . . . It takes a while to get to the bottom of what's going on because the symptoms can overlap so much. To me, it's like peeling an onion . . . You have to work one layer at a time. > > I suspect quite a few women have adrenal problems going on . . . This possibilty is rather new to the group. It will take a while before women can get their doctors to consider it and test them. > > You're fortunate to have Dr. Kolb on your side! > > Hugs and prayers, > > Rogene > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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