Re: A Progress Report--selenium

[Guest guest]

Howdy, Dianne!

Selenium is used in the conversion of T4 to T3.It is also one of the most

potent anti-oxidants.

We suggest no more than 400mcg a day. I take 400-- 200mcgs twice daily. As

to any particular brand,I guess there is no preference.I use a store brand,

which runs about 5-6 dollars for 100 tablets of 200 mcg.

Take it with food....(Pard)step in here please, I am unsure what you

had found out about the absorbency.But, taking it with vitamin c dilutes it,

right?

Certain foods are high in selenium----Brazil nuts being the highest.

It really is so awesome hearing of your progress!!!!

I have a tendency to have too little salt(sodium), myself. Thyrogeek and I

had talked awhile back.She is the kind of person that animals like licking,

and the reason appears to be because she secretes salt.

hugs

Feisty(proud group co-owner)

----- Original Message -----

From: " Dianne "

Hi, ,

I have heard about Selenium, but have no idea how much I am

supposed to take, which brand, etc. What's it supposed to do? How much

should I be taking? My Ferritin and Iron are really good and I do take a

high-grade non-coated multi vit every day (no soy-based stuff in it).

My adrenal related problems have pretty much cleared up unless I

overdo it with salt ( " sodium " hidden in so many things).

I have enough energy for each day, which is good, but find that I

have energy enough to do more than what I had been doing

before. Thankfully, with the aching reduced, I am able to be more

" physical " than I had been, which is going a long way toward helping on the

weight reduction.

Almost feeling " normal " (whatever the heck that really

is....<smile>)

Hugs!

Dianne

[Guest guest]

Close.. it doesn't delute it.. it somehow binds with it if you take them both on an empty stomach... but if you take them with food.. the selenium masquerades as an amino acid and then the vitamin C can't see it.. It's the ONLY thing that I've ever seen vitamin C be a negative for.. So, for me... I now take a snack with my last dose of sups for the day... an hour before bedtime I take my iron and calcium... another hit (125mg) of vitamin C and my last hit of Selenium (50 mcg).

In addition to what is included with my multi-vitamins I take 500 mg of Vitamin C in four doses throughout the day and 150 mcg of selenium in three doses during the day.

I'll include the article below...

I remember our talking about salt and licking.. if you are someone that critters just love to lick it means that you are a salt secretor. Usually a sign of adrenal problems and means that, like me, you most likely have to make sure that you give in to your salt craving, especially in hot weather... I like to do 'salt licks' when it's hot and I'm craving... I'll lick the back of my hand and sprinkle salt on.. just like those folks that drink tequila, then just lick it off... it satisfies that craving without adding calories.

Topper () *The multi-dosing queen*

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Selenium and Vitamin C Absorption

It was in June 21, 1999 that the possibility of counter-interactions between inorganic Vitamin C and selenium was raised in the Danish television news. 2 days later in the Berlingske Tidende newspaper, similar reports were published about Vitamin C inhibiting the absorption of inorganic selenium in the body. The problem arises when selenium interacts with ascorbic acid, it can be reduced to elementary selenium, which the body cannot utilize. This has been shown in studies. However, the issue becomes more complex when the human element is added into the equation, and to date, there is a considerable lack of scientific literature on the subject.It is advisable to take Multi-tabs at meal times so that the various vitamins and minerals - including selenium - are made an integral part of and spread within the food intake. Multi-tabs contain 50 micrograms of selenium in the form of natrium seleniumate and between 60 and 90 mg of ascorbic acid. This will therefore lower the local concentrations of vitamin C and selenium and lessen the chances of them inter-reacting. Furthermore, selenium creates protective complexes with food components - for example with amino acids such as methionin and cystein.It has been shown in studies that 200 mg of ascorbic acid has no effect on natrium seleniumate (50g). On the other hand, it even appears to improve the bio-accessibility of selenium when ingested at meal times. There is no evidence that food factors have any influence on selenium absorption, an issue that should be looked into in further studies. However, when a large dose of ascorbic acid (1g) is taken together with selenium prior to a meal, then the selenium is not absorbed. The crucial difference lies in taking them at meal times, then will the ascorbic acid not affect the absorption of selenium.On the topic of selenium absorption, it also appears that the nature of selenium itself makes a difference. Several studies have shown that organic selenium can be almost totally absorbed by the body whereas the inorganic one is variable, generally over 50%. Organic selenium is selenium that is incorporated in amino acids such as methionin (seleno-methionin) or cystein (seleno-cystein). The body thus recognises the selenium as amino acids and since amino acids are almost totally absorbed by the body, it means that the organic selenium is also absorbed in a camouflaged fashion. It is important to be aware of this, since otherwise an inadvertent overdosage of selenium could occur.

Based on the above, there are 2 main points about the selenium absorption issue:1. The assertion that selenium is absorbed badly when combined with ascorbic acid from, for example, Multi-tabs, is undocumented. On the contrary, it has been shown in surveys that ascorbic acid has no effect on the absorption of selenium. In large doses, ascorbic acid can reduce the absorption of selenium, but this can easily be countered by taking the 2 together at meal times. 2. The fact that organic selenium is generally absorbed better than inorganic selenium has been documented in various studies. The absorption of inorganic selenium is, however, still in the range of 50% and above. Here, however, it should be noted that organic selenium, as selenium bound in amino acids, is absorbed by the body uncritically and in an unregulated fashion as it is recognised as an amino acid. It is prudent therefore to take caution here as there is always the danger of selenium overdosage.

On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 11:49:24 -0500 "Feisty\(ThyroFeisty\)" writes:> Howdy, Dianne!> > Selenium is used in the conversion of T4 to T3.It is also one of > the most> potent anti-oxidants.> We suggest no more than 400mcg a day. I take 400-- 200mcgs twice > daily. As> to any particular brand,I guess there is no preference.I use a store > brand,> which runs about 5-6 dollars for 100 tablets of 200 mcg.> Take it with food....(Pard)step in here please, I am unsure > what you> had found out about the absorbency.But, taking it with vitamin c > dilutes it,> right?> Certain foods are high in selenium----Brazil nuts being the > highest.> It really is so awesome hearing of your progress!!!!> I have a tendency to have too little salt(sodium), myself. Thyrogeek > and I> had talked awhile back.She is the kind of person that animals like > licking,> and the reason appears to be because she secretes salt.> hugs> Feisty(proud group co-owner)