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........remember the OJ Simpson trial? They used PCR testing for some of the

blood samples. PCR stands for polymerase (spelling?) chain reaction. It is

a highly sensitive test for various substances. In the case of

mycoplasmas, they can be very hard to detect in the normal lab setting,

although they can test for them. With PCR testing (only available in a

small number of labs) the results are more accurate.

Naturally, they are more expensive :-( I think somewhere in the vicinity

of $250, depending on how many varieties of mycoplasmas they are testing.

Hope you are having a great day, Vicki.

take care and lots of hugs,

Connie

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So Connie, you mean your big clinics wouldn't have this type of lab

equipment?

I mean like UCLA, UC , etc. I'm just wondering, if these large

clinics don't have this lab equipment then how can just a handful of

labs afford them....

I'm just a bundle of questions so please forgive my stupidity.....

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Both fish oil and flax seed oils are anti-inflamatory.

I used to suffer from both tired legs, and pain in my knees. But since I stopped

taking margarine or butter on bread, and replacing them with flax seed oil. the

symptoms disappeared over time. If this sounds too drastic, try 2 tablespoons

of flax seed oil daily.

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Someone might want to correct me but Epsom salt baths help with phenols. I

didn't believe it myself but my son went nuts(no pun intended) with carrots

when we first started the diet. Someone suggested that the baths would help and

he calmed down like you wouldn't believe. The baths help the intestinal tract

to disburse the phenols appropriatly. It's amazing. ~Sheri

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Hi, how does anyone deal with the high phenols on the SCD diet if

your child is very phenol sensitive? ( honey, almonds,fruits, ect..)

The other question I have is has anyone heard of virus in the gut

caused by the MMR vaccinations, sometimes referred to as measles in

the gut? I also would like to know if going

GFCF before introducing SCD has proven less difficult for them ( the

child) than them going cold turkey SCD? Has anyone done this ?

was improving after

eliminating dairy and most phenols from his diet and we were going to

go gluten free with the flours but eliminating the rice and potato

flours and any rice or potato's. I know this is a SCD board but every

child is different, with different problems. does not or did

not have diarreah or bad stools, but goes off the wall with phenols

and dairy with the exception of yogurt which seems to keep him on an

even keel. I know SCD is a good diet but for aa 22 month old it is

very difficult. has regressed back to the summer with the head

banging, crying, sceaming and the dark circles are back under his

eyes. Does anyone use enzyme supplements, legal ones through Kirkman

to help them on this diet as far as help for yeast, bacteria,

viruses, phenols?? ...Thanks for any help....

Shirley, mother of who is father of 22 mos.

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> The other question I have is has anyone heard of virus in the gut

> caused by the MMR vaccinations, sometimes referred to as measles in

> the gut?

go to (for instance):

http://www.nichd.nih.gov/publications/pubs/autism2.htm

> I also would like to know if going

> GFCF before introducing SCD ...>snip<

....I WISH I had done SCD BEFORE anything else. It is a safe and sound

shortcut to healing. GFCF is sugar-loaded and unwise.

> does not or did

> not have diarreah or bad stools

....but how is his gut flora? Well-balanced?

> I know SCD is a good diet but for aa 22 month old it is

> very difficult.

Initially, as a parent, you'll have to get used to different style of

cooking. For you this makes no difference. I should think the diet is

as easy for a 7-year-old as for a 22-month-old. Or as hard, whatever.

Marjan

The Netherlands

mom to Nick, 7, scd since jan 18 2003

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You could try Phenol Assist and Lauricidin. Yes, measles can be in the gut.

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Hi, how does anyone deal with the high phenols on the SCD diet if

your child is very phenol sensitive? ( honey, almonds,fruits, ect..)

The other question I have is has anyone heard of virus in the gut

caused by the MMR vaccinations, sometimes referred to as measles in

the gut? I also would like to know if going

GFCF before introducing SCD has proven less difficult for them ( the

child) than them going cold turkey SCD? Has anyone done this ?

was improving after

eliminating dairy and most phenols from his diet and we were going to

go gluten free with the flours but eliminating the rice and potato

flours and any rice or potato's. I know this is a SCD board but every

child is different, with different problems. does not or did

not have diarreah or bad stools, but goes off the wall with phenols

and dairy with the exception of yogurt which seems to keep him on an

even keel. I know SCD is a good diet but for aa 22 month old it is

very difficult. has regressed back to the summer with the head

banging, crying, sceaming and the dark circles are back under his

eyes. Does anyone use enzyme supplements, legal ones through Kirkman

to help them on this diet as far as help for yeast, bacteria,

viruses, phenols?? ...Thanks for any help....

Shirley, mother of who is father of 22 mos.

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Right, I'm sorry I gave my son potato snacks all day on gf/cf. Rice and soy,

too. :-(

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> The other question I have is has anyone heard of virus in the gut

> caused by the MMR vaccinations, sometimes referred to as measles in

> the gut?

go to (for instance):

http://www.nichd.nih.gov/publications/pubs/autism2.htm

> I also would like to know if going

> GFCF before introducing SCD ...>snip<

...I WISH I had done SCD BEFORE anything else. It is a safe and sound

shortcut to healing. GFCF is sugar-loaded and unwise.

> does not or did

> not have diarreah or bad stools

...but how is his gut flora? Well-balanced?

> I know SCD is a good diet but for aa 22 month old it is

> very difficult.

Initially, as a parent, you'll have to get used to different style of

cooking. For you this makes no difference. I should think the diet is

as easy for a 7-year-old as for a 22-month-old. Or as hard, whatever.

Marjan

The Netherlands

mom to Nick, 7, scd since jan 18 2003

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Hi Shirley,

I'm not sure if this is right, but I thought I heard that vitamin A can

help with measles. My son is very reactive to phenols and salycilates

but since we have done SCD it is improving a little. Meanwhile we stick

to pears (all pale green or yellow varieties, including Asian pears),

cauliflower, endive, celery, onions, diakon, occasionally yellow string

beans, and use macadamia and chestnut flours. Honey can be high in

salycilates, so we try to use it just twice a week, and try to use

stevia the rest of the week. This is not always easy. We have to be

careful even of what he gets on his skin, (marker will cause big

problems) or even breathing the fumes of regular play dough will really

set him off, and if he touches it, look out!

Mother to Ben 7, ASD, SCD 11 weeks

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From: saxa44

To: pecanbread

Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 10:17 AM

Subject: Question

Hi, how does anyone deal with the high phenols on the SCD diet if

your child is very phenol sensitive? ( honey, almonds,fruits, ect..)

The other question I have is has anyone heard of virus in the gut

caused by the MMR vaccinations, sometimes referred to as measles in

the gut? I also would like to know if going

GFCF before introducing SCD has proven less difficult for them ( the

child) than them going cold turkey SCD? Has anyone done this ?

was improving after

eliminating dairy and most phenols from his diet and we were going to

go gluten free with the flours but eliminating the rice and potato

flours and any rice or potato's. I know this is a SCD board but every

child is different, with different problems. does not or did

not have diarreah or bad stools, but goes off the wall with phenols

and dairy with the exception of yogurt which seems to keep him on an

even keel. I know SCD is a good diet but for aa 22 month old it is

very difficult. has regressed back to the summer with the head

banging, crying, sceaming and the dark circles are back under his

eyes. Does anyone use enzyme supplements, legal ones through Kirkman

to help them on this diet as far as help for yeast, bacteria,

viruses, phenols?? ...Thanks for any help....

Shirley, mother of who is father of 22 mos.

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