for

[Guest guest]

Hello, ,

I use the vinegar for pain. Fibrofix.com explains the neutralizing needed for an

acidious condition that causes pain.

But make sure that it is UNFILTERED Apple Cider Vinegar. I use Braggs product.

Subject: Re: Re: Ann

To: fibromyalgiacured

Date: Friday, December 24, 2010, 2:43 PM

 

Hi Ann

I have just found this post you sent. because I am not here so much lately I am

reading everything in wrong order and not sure which messages came before which.

this hebal thing you are doing sounds fantastic, and it is something i know many

folk here will be interested in.

herbs, are the only carb food i am confident with, that I know I can eat, but

because I know nothing at all about them, I simply eat a small mix each day. I

would love to here more about how they help us get strong, fight disease, feed

our bodies etc.

It is great to here you are doing well with this stuff, all natural too, this is

what we all love here

i am not sure because I do keep loosing track a bit lately, but I am thinking

that your focus has been on eating good wholesome foods, supplementing with good

herbs and perhaps other supplements and focusing mainly on curing your gut, and

from that your other healing has come. I do hope i am following you here, if I

am not it is not me being ignorant, I just do not know any other way to deal

with fibro other than this, so basically I am assuming you are doing a similar

thing to us, but if not i still think it is amazing because, well like i say,

herbs is something others have told me have worked for them, and I have a

genuine interest in  them

I hope I am making some sense. My shares are not very fluent lately, I am not

down or sad or anything like that but i have lost some of that free spirit if

you like. no worries it returns when it returns

anyway, the good news is, my mom has finally accepted my sister may need to do

this ketogenic thing. It is not all going to happen soon, but my mom has said

she will support her with the supplements, and I have managed to tell my mom a

bit more stuff

Last night I told her about the big four, gluten, casein, soya and corn. This

suprised her, but I do think she was recognising a bit of what I said. None of

us in our family ever eat soya or corn, since we never felt good with them, and

the other two, the wheat and milk, some addiction, especially with my dad and

sister. I was bad with the wheat, but not so bad with the milk

I do hope I am making a bot of sense here

anyway. I gave her some journals that show milk and wheat are definately issues

for Parkinsons and schitzophrenia, and i could see by my moms eyes something was

clicking

My dad is still moaning about eating the coconut oil, not because he has

problems with it, just because he likes to moan. I had to be a bit firm with him

and tell him how lucky he is to have somebody like me there to tell him. felt a

bit bad, but honestly, it was justified

Anyway, all in all I am pretty happy with the progress there, and I am so happy

that my husband has finally reached his goal weight

My children reached theirs a while back, my son put some back on a while back

but now seems to be over binging, or so he says

He may be right this time because I heard him moaning to his girlfriend that he

does not want to go out drinking over christmas

It is so strange. i changed my mind about drinking and all that when I was his

age. he is still smoking, down to 3 a week, sounds daft but i could alos do that

at his age. I want him to stop, but if i start on about that it really will

spoil things so I am just trying to look at how good they are doing with their

eating etc

My daughter looks fantastic, and she is really eating well, and she is getting

into learning the nutrition stuff so I am pleased with that too. she is another

one that smokes, and she definately smokes a lot more than my son, but we will

see. She does not like the drink at all, thank God

i say thank god to the drink because alcoholism is entrenched in my family and

her biological father had trouble with addiction too.

I am so lucky really that neither of them are going down that road. I cant say

for certain why they have not, but I do think the diet has helped. It does keep

us all more stable, I am certain of that. They actually use low carb and

ketogenic diets in rehab nowadays to help folk with alcohol and drug addiction

stay of the stuff

Anyway, I am warbling, but just wanted to let you know that I really do think

your ideas are kind of what we already do here and the new stuff you are

bringing is what we all want, well at least what I want LOL

I have to go and shop now, no idea when i will be on next. I will be fasting

later and that will last at least one day, maybe two or three

Don't take no notice of this, this really is my thing, nothing to do with Bees

diet, in fact Bee does not reall encourage fasting

I will share a bit more another time why i fast

But for now, do have a lovely Christmas, wont you

All my love joanne

->

> I didn't mean to post the other message yet, hadn't finished it or edited it

>yet, so please forgive any errors and wasn't even sure that I was going to send

>everything in the message. However, my 1 year old grandson pushed the button.

> I can't even remember where I left off.

> But anyway, I've had to cut down on just about everything that was energy

>draining including helping my husband as much. I found that I am so passionate

>about helping people that I gave much more to others than I did myself.

>

> There is a book that I read during the years showing one which nutrients might

>be helpful in regulating the energy of an autommune system.

>

>

> I remember having an eye opening moment. Never thought about the fact that

most

>things that I was doing was revving my immune system up. Which were creating

>more problems for me.

>

> " We all have to build up our immune systems right? " According to what I've

>learned, not if you have an autoimmune disease.

> What a blessing to learn this. It also showed me that just because something

is

>natural doesn't mean that it's for you. Kind of silly I guess, when I think

>about it, but my Dr. would always say that my immune systems was over reacting,

>so why had I insisted on building it up.

>

> I've also had the pleasure of working w/some Medical Drs. who really helped me

>on my journey too, as some of them had a holistic belief system to their

>recommendations.

>

> Not sure if I've answered everything seeing that I can't remember what was

sent

>already. I looked at the Paleo diet and it reminds me so much of what I did

when

>properly combining my foods, minus the carbs of course. But what a difference

>this made on my bowel habits and digestive system as well. It also afforded me

a

>little more energy as my digestive system didn't have to work so hard to break

>stuff down.

>

> What are some natural companies that you have used, I am always open to

looking

>at different products?

>

>

>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Uhhh, are we taking a vacation or have I been temporarily kicked out

>of the

>

> > > > > >site?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Just wondering.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

[Guest guest]

,How much of the vinegar do you take?  I just bought some last week and

have been trying to take it just in a tablespoon.  Is there a better way to

take it because it really is gross taking it straight.  I have GERD really bad

and ulcers in my esophagus.  I thought the vinegar would probably help.

Subject: Re: Re: Ann

To: fibromyalgiacured

Date: Friday, December 24, 2010, 2:43 PM

 

Hi Ann

I have just found this post you sent. because I am not here so much lately I am

reading everything in wrong order and not sure which messages came before which.

this hebal thing you are doing sounds fantastic, and it is something i know many

folk here will be interested in.

herbs, are the only carb food i am confident with, that I know I can eat, but

because I know nothing at all about them, I simply eat a small mix each day. I

would love to here more about how they help us get strong, fight disease, feed

our bodies etc.

It is great to here you are doing well with this stuff, all natural too, this is

what we all love here

i am not sure because I do keep loosing track a bit lately, but I am thinking

that your focus has been on eating good wholesome foods, supplementing with good

herbs and perhaps other supplements and focusing mainly on curing your gut, and

from that your other healing has come. I do hope i am following you here, if I

am not it is not me being ignorant, I just do not know any other way to deal

with fibro other than this, so basically I am assuming you are doing a similar

thing to us, but if not i still think it is amazing because, well like i say,

herbs is something others have told me have worked for them, and I have a

genuine interest in  them

I hope I am making some sense. My shares are not very fluent lately, I am not

down or sad or anything like that but i have lost some of that free spirit if

you like. no worries it returns when it returns

anyway, the good news is, my mom has finally accepted my sister may need to do

this ketogenic thing. It is not all going to happen soon, but my mom has said

she will support her with the supplements, and I have managed to tell my mom a

bit more stuff

Last night I told her about the big four, gluten, casein, soya and corn. This

suprised her, but I do think she was recognising a bit of what I said. None of

us in our family ever eat soya or corn, since we never felt good with them, and

the other two, the wheat and milk, some addiction, especially with my dad and

sister. I was bad with the wheat, but not so bad with the milk

I do hope I am making a bot of sense here

anyway. I gave her some journals that show milk and wheat are definately issues

for Parkinsons and schitzophrenia, and i could see by my moms eyes something was

clicking

My dad is still moaning about eating the coconut oil, not because he has

problems with it, just because he likes to moan. I had to be a bit firm with him

and tell him how lucky he is to have somebody like me there to tell him. felt a

bit bad, but honestly, it was justified

Anyway, all in all I am pretty happy with the progress there, and I am so happy

that my husband has finally reached his goal weight

My children reached theirs a while back, my son put some back on a while back

but now seems to be over binging, or so he says

He may be right this time because I heard him moaning to his girlfriend that he

does not want to go out drinking over christmas

It is so strange. i changed my mind about drinking and all that when I was his

age. he is still smoking, down to 3 a week, sounds daft but i could alos do that

at his age. I want him to stop, but if i start on about that it really will

spoil things so I am just trying to look at how good they are doing with their

eating etc

My daughter looks fantastic, and she is really eating well, and she is getting

into learning the nutrition stuff so I am pleased with that too. she is another

one that smokes, and she definately smokes a lot more than my son, but we will

see. She does not like the drink at all, thank God

i say thank god to the drink because alcoholism is entrenched in my family and

her biological father had trouble with addiction too.

I am so lucky really that neither of them are going down that road. I cant say

for certain why they have not, but I do think the diet has helped. It does keep

us all more stable, I am certain of that. They actually use low carb and

ketogenic diets in rehab nowadays to help folk with alcohol and drug addiction

stay of the stuff

Anyway, I am warbling, but just wanted to let you know that I really do think

your ideas are kind of what we already do here and the new stuff you are

bringing is what we all want, well at least what I want LOL

I have to go and shop now, no idea when i will be on next. I will be fasting

later and that will last at least one day, maybe two or three

Don't take no notice of this, this really is my thing, nothing to do with Bees

diet, in fact Bee does not reall encourage fasting

I will share a bit more another time why i fast

But for now, do have a lovely Christmas, wont you

All my love joanne

->

> I didn't mean to post the other message yet, hadn't finished it or edited it

>yet, so please forgive any errors and wasn't even sure that I was going to send

>everything in the message. However, my 1 year old grandson pushed the button.

> I can't even remember where I left off.

> But anyway, I've had to cut down on just about everything that was energy

>draining including helping my husband as much. I found that I am so passionate

>about helping people that I gave much more to others than I did myself.

>

> There is a book that I read during the years showing one which nutrients might

>be helpful in regulating the energy of an autommune system.

>

>

> I remember having an eye opening moment. Never thought about the fact that

most

>things that I was doing was revving my immune system up. Which were creating

>more problems for me.

>

> " We all have to build up our immune systems right? " According to what I've

>learned, not if you have an autoimmune disease.

> What a blessing to learn this. It also showed me that just because something

is

>natural doesn't mean that it's for you. Kind of silly I guess, when I think

>about it, but my Dr. would always say that my immune systems was over reacting,

>so why had I insisted on building it up.

>

> I've also had the pleasure of working w/some Medical Drs. who really helped me

>on my journey too, as some of them had a holistic belief system to their

>recommendations.

>

> Not sure if I've answered everything seeing that I can't remember what was

sent

>already. I looked at the Paleo diet and it reminds me so much of what I did

when

>properly combining my foods, minus the carbs of course. But what a difference

>this made on my bowel habits and digestive system as well. It also afforded me

a

>little more energy as my digestive system didn't have to work so hard to break

>stuff down.

>

> What are some natural companies that you have used, I am always open to

looking

>at different products?

>

>

>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Uhhh, are we taking a vacation or have I been temporarily kicked out

>of the

>

> > > > > >site?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Just wondering.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

[Guest guest]

I also have Gerd. But diet has a lot to do with controlling most of it. I really

can get it pretty bad. But the vinegar does seem to help it.

What I do is begin with a jigger of vinegar with a jigger of water(one and a

half to two oz. is a jigger)  three times a day for the first day then two

times a day the next couple of days and then one time a day for a week or so

mattering the pain index you have. I do not usually use a whole week when I have

minor pains. But if you are just beginning then I recommend you do the week.

Yes, the stuff is not tasty but I do comedy imagery and it ease the gulp,lol.

I hope this helps.

New Year Salutations,

Subject: Re: Re: Ann

To: fibromyalgiacured

Date: Friday, December 24, 2010, 2:43 PM

 

Hi Ann

I have just found this post you sent. because I am not here so much lately I am

reading everything in wrong order and not sure which messages came before which.

this hebal thing you are doing sounds fantastic, and it is something i know many

folk here will be interested in.

herbs, are the only carb food i am confident with, that I know I can eat, but

because I know nothing at all about them, I simply eat a small mix each day. I

would love to here more about how they help us get strong, fight disease, feed

our bodies etc.

It is great to here you are doing well with this stuff, all natural too, this is

what we all love here

i am not sure because I do keep loosing track a bit lately, but I am thinking

that your focus has been on eating good wholesome foods, supplementing with good

herbs and perhaps other supplements and focusing mainly on curing your gut, and

from that your other healing has come. I do hope i am following you here, if I

am not it is not me being ignorant, I just do not know any other way to deal

with fibro other than this, so basically I am assuming you are doing a similar

thing to us, but if not i still think it is amazing because, well like i say,

herbs is something others have told me have worked for them, and I have a

genuine interest in  them

I hope I am making some sense. My shares are not very fluent lately, I am not

down or sad or anything like that but i have lost some of that free spirit if

you like. no worries it returns when it returns

anyway, the good news is, my mom has finally accepted my sister may need to do

this ketogenic thing. It is not all going to happen soon, but my mom has said

she will support her with the supplements, and I have managed to tell my mom a

bit more stuff

Last night I told her about the big four, gluten, casein, soya and corn. This

suprised her, but I do think she was recognising a bit of what I said. None of

us in our family ever eat soya or corn, since we never felt good with them, and

the other two, the wheat and milk, some addiction, especially with my dad and

sister. I was bad with the wheat, but not so bad with the milk

I do hope I am making a bot of sense here

anyway. I gave her some journals that show milk and wheat are definately issues

for Parkinsons and schitzophrenia, and i could see by my moms eyes something was

clicking

My dad is still moaning about eating the coconut oil, not because he has

problems with it, just because he likes to moan. I had to be a bit firm with him

and tell him how lucky he is to have somebody like me there to tell him. felt a

bit bad, but honestly, it was justified

Anyway, all in all I am pretty happy with the progress there, and I am so happy

that my husband has finally reached his goal weight

My children reached theirs a while back, my son put some back on a while back

but now seems to be over binging, or so he says

He may be right this time because I heard him moaning to his girlfriend that he

does not want to go out drinking over christmas

It is so strange. i changed my mind about drinking and all that when I was his

age. he is still smoking, down to 3 a week, sounds daft but i could alos do that

at his age. I want him to stop, but if i start on about that it really will

spoil things so I am just trying to look at how good they are doing with their

eating etc

My daughter looks fantastic, and she is really eating well, and she is getting

into learning the nutrition stuff so I am pleased with that too. she is another

one that smokes, and she definately smokes a lot more than my son, but we will

see. She does not like the drink at all, thank God

i say thank god to the drink because alcoholism is entrenched in my family and

her biological father had trouble with addiction too.

I am so lucky really that neither of them are going down that road. I cant say

for certain why they have not, but I do think the diet has helped. It does keep

us all more stable, I am certain of that. They actually use low carb and

ketogenic diets in rehab nowadays to help folk with alcohol and drug addiction

stay of the stuff

Anyway, I am warbling, but just wanted to let you know that I really do think

your ideas are kind of what we already do here and the new stuff you are

bringing is what we all want, well at least what I want LOL

I have to go and shop now, no idea when i will be on next. I will be fasting

later and that will last at least one day, maybe two or three

Don't take no notice of this, this really is my thing, nothing to do with Bees

diet, in fact Bee does not reall encourage fasting

I will share a bit more another time why i fast

But for now, do have a lovely Christmas, wont you

All my love joanne

->

> I didn't mean to post the other message yet, hadn't finished it or edited it

>yet, so please forgive any errors and wasn't even sure that I was going to send

>everything in the message. However, my 1 year old grandson pushed the button.

> I can't even remember where I left off.

> But anyway, I've had to cut down on just about everything that was energy

>draining including helping my husband as much. I found that I am so passionate

>about helping people that I gave much more to others than I did myself.

>

> There is a book that I read during the years showing one which nutrients might

>be helpful in regulating the energy of an autommune system.

>

>

> I remember having an eye opening moment. Never thought about the fact that

most

>things that I was doing was revving my immune system up. Which were creating

>more problems for me.

>

> " We all have to build up our immune systems right? " According to what I've

>learned, not if you have an autoimmune disease.

> What a blessing to learn this. It also showed me that just because something

is

>natural doesn't mean that it's for you. Kind of silly I guess, when I think

>about it, but my Dr. would always say that my immune systems was over reacting,

>so why had I insisted on building it up.

>

> I've also had the pleasure of working w/some Medical Drs. who really helped me

>on my journey too, as some of them had a holistic belief system to their

>recommendations.

>

> Not sure if I've answered everything seeing that I can't remember what was

sent

>already. I looked at the Paleo diet and it reminds me so much of what I did

when

>properly combining my foods, minus the carbs of course. But what a difference

>this made on my bowel habits and digestive system as well. It also afforded me

a

>little more energy as my digestive system didn't have to work so hard to break

>stuff down.

>

> What are some natural companies that you have used, I am always open to

looking

>at different products?

>

>

>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Uhhh, are we taking a vacation or have I been temporarily kicked out

>of the

>

> > > > > >site?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Just wondering.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Hello

I do it daily and I either take 3 tablespoons with water or 3 teasppons with

warm water and honey. Braggs is the strongest and the most helpful I find.  You

can spilt it up and do 1 tablespoon in am afternoon and then pm

Also your overall diet is really important. Stay away from processed foods and

sugars. Try to buy organic and I also use the vinager in salad dressings with 3

tablespoons of Braggs 1 to 2 tablespoons of Olive oil , 1 teaspoon of mustard

and herbs salt and pepper.

This is a great group and welcome

Ciao-

Ange

 

Subject: Re: Re: Ann

To: fibromyalgiacured

Date: Friday, December 24, 2010, 2:43 PM

 

Hi Ann

I have just found this post you sent. because I am not here so much lately I am

reading everything in wrong order and not sure which messages came before which.

this hebal thing you are doing sounds fantastic, and it is something i know many

folk here will be interested in.

herbs, are the only carb food i am confident with, that I know I can eat, but

because I know nothing at all about them, I simply eat a small mix each day. I

would love to here more about how they help us get strong, fight disease, feed

our bodies etc.

It is great to here you are doing well with this stuff, all natural too, this is

what we all love here

i am not sure because I do keep loosing track a bit lately, but I am thinking

that your focus has been on eating good wholesome foods, supplementing with good

herbs and perhaps other supplements and focusing mainly on curing your gut, and

from that your other healing has come. I do hope i am following you here, if I

am not it is not me being ignorant, I just do not know any other way to deal

with fibro other than this, so basically I am assuming you are doing a similar

thing to us, but if not i still think it is amazing because, well like i say,

herbs is something others have told me have worked for them, and I have a

genuine interest in  them

I hope I am making some sense. My shares are not very fluent lately, I am not

down or sad or anything like that but i have lost some of that free spirit if

you like. no worries it returns when it returns

anyway, the good news is, my mom has finally accepted my sister may need to do

this ketogenic thing. It is not all going to happen soon, but my mom has said

she will support her with the supplements, and I have managed to tell my mom a

bit more stuff

Last night I told her about the big four, gluten, casein, soya and corn. This

suprised her, but I do think she was recognising a bit of what I said. None of

us in our family ever eat soya or corn, since we never felt good with them, and

the other two, the wheat and milk, some addiction, especially with my dad and

sister. I was bad with the wheat, but not so bad with the milk

I do hope I am making a bot of sense here

anyway. I gave her some journals that show milk and wheat are definately issues

for Parkinsons and schitzophrenia, and i could see by my moms eyes something was

clicking

My dad is still moaning about eating the coconut oil, not because he has

problems with it, just because he likes to moan. I had to be a bit firm with him

and tell him how lucky he is to have somebody like me there to tell him. felt a

bit bad, but honestly, it was justified

Anyway, all in all I am pretty happy with the progress there, and I am so happy

that my husband has finally reached his goal weight

My children reached theirs a while back, my son put some back on a while back

but now seems to be over binging, or so he says

He may be right this time because I heard him moaning to his girlfriend that he

does not want to go out drinking over christmas

It is so strange. i changed my mind about drinking and all that when I was his

age. he is still smoking, down to 3 a week, sounds daft but i could alos do that

at his age. I want him to stop, but if i start on about that it really will

spoil things so I am just trying to look at how good they are doing with their

eating etc

My daughter looks fantastic, and she is really eating well, and she is getting

into learning the nutrition stuff so I am pleased with that too. she is another

one that smokes, and she definately smokes a lot more than my son, but we will

see. She does not like the drink at all, thank God

i say thank god to the drink because alcoholism is entrenched in my family and

her biological father had trouble with addiction too.

I am so lucky really that neither of them are going down that road. I cant say

for certain why they have not, but I do think the diet has helped. It does keep

us all more stable, I am certain of that. They actually use low carb and

ketogenic diets in rehab nowadays to help folk with alcohol and drug addiction

stay of the stuff

Anyway, I am warbling, but just wanted to let you know that I really do think

your ideas are kind of what we already do here and the new stuff you are

bringing is what we all want, well at least what I want LOL

I have to go and shop now, no idea when i will be on next. I will be fasting

later and that will last at least one day, maybe two or three

Don't take no notice of this, this really is my thing, nothing to do with Bees

diet, in fact Bee does not reall encourage fasting

I will share a bit more another time why i fast

But for now, do have a lovely Christmas, wont you

All my love joanne

->

> I didn't mean to post the other message yet, hadn't finished it or edited it

>yet, so please forgive any errors and wasn't even sure that I was going to send

>everything in the message. However, my 1 year old grandson pushed the button.

> I can't even remember where I left off.

> But anyway, I've had to cut down on just about everything that was energy

>draining including helping my husband as much. I found that I am so passionate

>about helping people that I gave much more to others than I did myself.

>

> There is a book that I read during the years showing one which nutrients might

>be helpful in regulating the energy of an autommune system.

>

>

> I remember having an eye opening moment. Never thought about the fact that

most

>things that I was doing was revving my immune system up. Which were creating

>more problems for me.

>

> " We all have to build up our immune systems right? " According to what I've

>learned, not if you have an autoimmune disease.

> What a blessing to learn this. It also showed me that just because something

is

>natural doesn't mean that it's for you. Kind of silly I guess, when I think

>about it, but my Dr. would always say that my immune systems was over reacting,

>so why had I insisted on building it up.

>

> I've also had the pleasure of working w/some Medical Drs. who really helped me

>on my journey too, as some of them had a holistic belief system to their

>recommendations.

>

> Not sure if I've answered everything seeing that I can't remember what was

sent

>already. I looked at the Paleo diet and it reminds me so much of what I did

when

>properly combining my foods, minus the carbs of course. But what a difference

>this made on my bowel habits and digestive system as well. It also afforded me

a

>little more energy as my digestive system didn't have to work so hard to break

>stuff down.

>

> What are some natural companies that you have used, I am always open to

looking

>at different products?

>

>

>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Uhhh, are we taking a vacation or have I been temporarily kicked out

>of the

>

> > > > > >site?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Just wondering.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >