Re: Re: wisconsin and hurting

[Guest guest]

thank you for all the info. on hashimotos that you included. i believe

that i have that and my doctor is working to get me on the right amount of

armour thyroid--my mother and sisters all had hashi's. also, i think that i

am going to try the corvalen M--i haven't done that yet, but have heard good

things about it. i am trynig, trying to get back to a low carb diet, just

haven't conquered that monster.

nne

On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 4:43 AM, astralstargazer

wrote:

>

>

> Hi ,

>

> My fybro still bothers me a lot unless I take CORVALEN M, so I take it

> daily twice a day for immediate relief. it takes 10 days to kick in. And I

> believe in a very low carb diet too. And until that gives me relief I will

> take what works as I see no negative side affect from taking it. Some on the

> board are hard line diet and supplements and I think of this as another

> supplement since it's magnesium and it just brings out bodies d-ribose to

> it's normal amount in the body. We all do are things our own way on this

> board, but low carb is a commonality and the board leans toward ketogenic,

> and Bees protocol.

>

> This supplement really reduces fybro pain and knocked out my chronic

> fatique in 10 days. It is widely used now in preference to pharmaceutical

> drugs for fybro and it's just magnesium and d-ribose.

>

> Right now prohealthdotcom has it on sale for $39.00 w/no shipping and

> handling until Dec 20th I think, (the place I was buying it at charges 61

> and another place 53). With it I can walk normally and do stairs again.

> until this diet gets me well, the Corvalen M (and I mean the one with the

> M), has me walking, doing stairs, exercising and active. I was like a

> cripple b4 taking it. C M is the only FDA GRAS approved brand.

>

> Some on the board take it and others are strictly diet and supplements. Our

> bodies naturally make d-ribose from birth, but with fybro we are 15 to 20%

> deficient than the general polulation.

>

> I have to be able to walk and drive and this lets me do it. Here is the

> link for it if you care to look at it:

> https://www.prohealth.com/shop/product.cfm/product__code/N0453

>

> Someone said to you to ask your Dr. if you have a heart problem. Maybe

> there is something I don't know, but d-ribose, magnesium, Co-Q10, and

> L-Carnitine are the top supplements for heart health. Maybe magnesium

> interferes with heart meds, but the company told me it only interferes with

> bone density meds like fosomax, and the other you can call the company about

> as I can't remember. Bioenergy Life Science's number is 1.. But

> if you buy it, pls buy it at prohealth.com as it is cheaper.

>

> Many doctors don't even know about d-ribose, but the Mayo clinic does as do

> other major clinics and cardiologists and Drs for fybro across the country.

> It doesn't cure it, but it gives you back a life if you take it daily.

>

> Have you had your thyroid tested? Much muscle ache and other pains and

> fybro are linked to thyroid. Are you hypo? That can cause muscle pain,

> fatigue depression, joint pain, etc.

>

> If you haven't tested yet, get a TPO to see if you have Hashi's autoimmune,

> a TSI to see if you have Graves autoimmune. They told me I had Graves

> because I was hypER for yrs, but I swang so much I made them test me and

> sure enough it was Hashi's where the thyroid can swing easy under stress.

> Now I am hyPO.

>

> Have them test your TSH, your FREE T3 and Free T4, not just the Free T4 as

> some drs do. Everyone does not convert Free t4 to free t3.

>

> Free T3 is the thyroid hormone used the most for energy and feeling well.

> If they just test for t3 and t4 that tells you nothing, as that is the bound

> form of the molecule that is not available for your body to use.

>

> They must test for the FREE form of the t's and you may already know this.

> People feel best when there Free T's are in the upper one third of the lab

> range. If you don't understand, post your TSH, TPO, TSI and Free t's results

> here and I will look at them.

>

> Also get a cortisol test to see if your adrenals are okay. You should get a

> full panel.

>

> Joanne or can tell you more about Bees. People on this board usually

> start with Atkins which Joanne can tell you about. I have gone very low carb

> by just doing a Paleo diet pretty much... that is if you can hunt it, pick

> it, pull it.. in other words, just " whole foods " that are low carbs. Nothing

> processed, but I won't mention my instant coffee.

>

> And I just discovered I need to drop my veggie patties. If you have thyroid

> please start with tiny amounts of Coconut Oil when you get to that as I had

> a hypER flare that was a monster, major tachachardia, and then scoured the

> internet and found that it is not uncommon, but I took the CO and my

> synthroid at the same time, so maybe with no synthroid and a small amount of

> CO I would have been okay, but I would ask Bee about it when you get to the

> pt. you want to do CO.

>

> I need to get more variety but I do some kind of meat patty at night, three

> egg whites in the morning and one yolk, nuts and whatever for lunch and then

> the meat patty and about 12 ounces of veggies at night with almonds or

> whatever nut again at night. Not cashews as they can cause candida.

>

> Also test for gluten intolerance. If you have hashis stay away from gluten.

> And this board basically stays away from it as one is able. We are all

> different.

>

> I am not as studied in ketogenics and Bees and Atkins as and Joanne,

> I just have gone low carb very simply and in the easiest way for me right

> now.

>

> As Joanne said, Rome wasn't built in a day. I am so happy I can do this.

> With this diet I have not much food cravings as I did while eating high

> carbs. Low carbs as Joanne said feels more clean and you just feel better.

>

> Take care ,

>

> (BTW, I was born in WI , but I grew up in CA since age 2)

>

>

>

> >

> > My name is and I live in Wisconsin. I was diagnosed about ten years

> ago with fibro and since then really haven't done anything about it. I

> thought I could just live with the pain. Well this weekend with the cold

> weather was enough to put me over the edge. I made a appointment to see the

> doctor to see what can help relieve some of the pain. I just joined you

> group yesterday and so the bee thing and eating more vegan is all new to me.

> I would like to go to the doctor and ask intelligent questions about what

> might help because I really don't want to take any more drugs than I am all

> ready on. My thyroid doesn't work either. Any suggestions and how do I even

> get started?

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I will get some today thanks everybody!

---- astralstargazer wrote:

> Lovell,

>

> Keep up with magnesium. It is a foundation to help with absorbtion of many

nutrients and many cutting edge drs say it really helps with fybro. It is one of

the 2 ingredients in Corvalen M. Google magnesium or look on youtube because it

is very necessary for so much in the body and it helps alleviate much fybro

pain.

>

> Love,

>

> Jean

>

>

> >

> >

> >

> >  HI

> >

> >  

> >

> > I saw your desperate message.....Here’s a quick suggestion. I will

write more in a Blog when I have a time .

> >

> >  I had a friend suffer from what appears to be Fibro  for some 5

years...pain all over , tired , depressed  cramps etc

> >

> > He’d wake up in the morning all stiff and in pain.

> >

> >  I suggested he take Magnesium  supplements ... ( but please do not

take Magnesium if you have known kidney or heart problems, with clearance from a

doctor )

> >

> >  

> >

> > Within 48 hours , he was getting relief...massive change.

> >

> >  

> >

> > Not sure if it will work in you case...but worth trying

> >

> >  

> >

> > Please MAKE SURE you take you Magnesium supplements 

> >

> >  

> >

> > 1.       On empty stomach

> >

> > 2.       1 hour before sleep

> >

> > Other Guidelines:

> >

> >  

> >

> > 3.       If you are drink lots of tea, please cut down

....Tannin in tea block absorption of ALL minerals

> >

> > 4.       If you consume  SOY bean products STOP,

Phytates in Soy block absorption of ALL minerals

> >

> > 5.       If you are vegetarian ,  understand that may

be a contributing factor

> >

> >  

> >

> > PLEASE consult a  qualified Naturopath who knows something about

Magnesium...most doctors  are ignorant about the benefits of Magnesium

> >

> >  

> >

> > As I said, I will write more in my blog  and provide more useful info

when I have time....

> >

> >  

> >

> >  

> >

> > I am not a doctor or Naturopath, but someone who benefitted from Magnesium

supplements   after doctors ( 5 of them ) could fix my depression , panic

attacks ,  cramps , Bruxism ( night teeth grinding)

> >

> > Foggy mind, poor memory irritability  problems .

> >

> >  

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Subject: wisconsin and hurting

> >

> > To: fibromyalgiacured

> >

> > Received: Tuesday, 30 November, 2010, 10:41 AM

> >

> >

> >

> >  

> >

> >

> >

> > My name is and I live in Wisconsin. I was diagnosed about ten years

ago with fibro and since then really haven't done anything about it. I thought I

could just live with the pain. Well this weekend with the cold weather was

enough to put me over the edge. I made a appointment to see the doctor to see

what can help relieve some of the pain. I just joined you group yesterday and so

the bee thing and eating more vegan is all new to me. I would like to go to the

doctor and ask intelligent questions about what might help because I really

don't want to take any more drugs than I am all ready on. My thyroid doesn't

work either. Any suggestions and how do I even get started?

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

OK, I did it, first day no carbs or very few I made it through the day and even

used olive oil. And coffee cake was staring at me from the kitchen counter and I

didn't get any.

---- Joanne Ford wrote:

>

>

> If you buy a Magnesium supplement it is usually better to buy one with Calcium

> added. this is because the two compete in the body and when one is low it can

> cause inbalance. The assistant at the Health food shop will be able to help

you

> pick a good one

>

> hope this is helpful

>

> Love Joanne

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: fibromyalgiacured

> Cc: astralstargazer

> Sent: Tue, 30 November, 2010 19:15:05

> Subject: Re: Re: wisconsin and hurting

>

>  

> I will get some today thanks everybody!

>

> ---- astralstargazer wrote:

> > Lovell,

> >

> > Keep up with magnesium. It is a foundation to help with absorbtion of many

> >nutrients and many cutting edge drs say it really helps with fybro. It is one

of

> >the 2 ingredients in Corvalen M. Google magnesium or look on youtube because

it

> >is very necessary for so much in the body and it helps alleviate much fybro

> >pain.

> >

> > Love,

> >

> > Jean

> >

> >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >  HI

> > >

> > >  

> > >

> > > I saw your desperate message.....Hereâs a quick suggestion. I will write

more

> >in a Blog when I have a time .

> > >

> > >  I had a friend suffer from what appears to be Fibro  for some 5

> >years...pain all over , tired , depressed  cramps etc

> > >

> > > Heâd wake up in the morning all stiff and in pain.

> > >

> > >  I suggested he take Magnesium  supplements ... ( but please do not

take

> >Magnesium if you have known kidney or heart problems, with clearance from a

> >doctor )

> >

> > >

> > >  

> > >

> > > Within 48 hours , he was getting relief...massive change.

> > >

> > >  

> > >

> > > Not sure if it will work in you case...but worth trying

> > >

> > >  

> > >

> > > Please MAKE SURE you take you Magnesium supplements 

> > >

> > >  

> > >

> > > 1.       On empty stomach

> > >

> > > 2.       1 hour before sleep

> > >

> > > Other Guidelines:

> > >

> > >  

> > >

> > > 3.       If you are drink lots of tea, please cut down

....Tannin in tea

> >block absorption of ALL minerals

> > >

> > > 4.       If you consume  SOY bean products STOP,

Phytates in Soy block

> >absorption of ALL minerals

> > >

> > > 5.       If you are vegetarian ,  understand that may

be a

> >contributing factor

> >

> > >

> > >  

> > >

> > > PLEASE consult a  qualified Naturopath who knows something about

> >Magnesium...most doctors  are ignorant about the benefits of Magnesium

> > >

> > >  

> > >

> > > As I said, I will write more in my blog  and provide more useful info

when I

> >have time....

> > >

> > >  

> > >

> > >  

> > >

> > > I am not a doctor or Naturopath, but someone who benefitted from Magnesium

> >supplements   after doctors ( 5 of them ) could fix my depression ,

panic

> >attacks ,  cramps , Bruxism ( night teeth grinding)

> >

> > >

> > > Foggy mind, poor memory irritability  problems .

> > >

> > >  

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Subject: wisconsin and hurting

> > >

> > > To: fibromyalgiacured

> > >

> > > Received: Tuesday, 30 November, 2010, 10:41 AM

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >  

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > My name is and I live in Wisconsin. I was diagnosed about ten years

ago

> >with fibro and since then really haven't done anything about it. I thought I

> >could just live with the pain. Well this weekend with the cold weather was

> >enough to put me over the edge. I made a appointment to see the doctor to see

> >what can help relieve some of the pain. I just joined you group yesterday and

so

> >the bee thing and eating more vegan is all new to me. I would like to go to

the

> >doctor and ask intelligent questions about what might help because I really

> >don't want to take any more drugs than I am all ready on. My thyroid doesn't

> >work either. Any suggestions and how do I even get started?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Congratulations, ,

I know it is terribly hard to get the sugar/flour carb monkey off your back. It

is a terrible addiction that many are not aware of. When I finally got

'cleaned', I felt a hundred percent better. The way I describe it is: my body

feels clean...so clean, I seem to be looking through crystal glass rather than

the brain fogginess, and eyesight blurr.

I hope you can steadily take the first steps to a better way of living and

feeling. You will see what we mean in a matter of a couple of weeks. Don't give

up.

Seeing it clearly,

> > Lovell,

> >

> > Keep up with magnesium. It is a foundation to help with absorbtion of many

> >nutrients and many cutting edge drs say it really helps with fybro. It is one

of

> >the 2 ingredients in Corvalen M. Google magnesium or look on youtube because

it

> >is very necessary for so much in the body and it helps alleviate much fybro

> >pain.

> >

> > Love,

> >

> > Jean

> >

> >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >  HI

> > >

> > >  

> > >

> > > I saw your desperate message.....Hereâs a quick suggestion. I will write

more

> >in a Blog when I have a time .

> > >

> > >  I had a friend suffer from what appears to be Fibro  for some 5

> >years...pain all over , tired , depressed  cramps etc

> > >

> > > Heâd wake up in the morning all stiff and in pain.

> > >

> > >  I suggested he take Magnesium  supplements ... ( but please do not

take

> >Magnesium if you have known kidney or heart problems, with clearance from a

> >doctor )

> >

> > >

> > >  

> > >

> > > Within 48 hours , he was getting relief...massive change.

> > >

> > >  

> > >

> > > Not sure if it will work in you case...but worth trying

> > >

> > >  

> > >

> > > Please MAKE SURE you take you Magnesium supplements 

> > >

> > >  

> > >

> > > 1.       On empty stomach

> > >

> > > 2.       1 hour before sleep

> > >

> > > Other Guidelines:

> > >

> > >  

> > >

> > > 3.       If you are drink lots of tea, please cut down

....Tannin in tea

> >block absorption of ALL minerals

> > >

> > > 4.       If you consume  SOY bean products STOP,

Phytates in Soy block

> >absorption of ALL minerals

> > >

> > > 5.       If you are vegetarian ,  understand that may

be a

> >contributing factor

> >

> > >

> > >  

> > >

> > > PLEASE consult a  qualified Naturopath who knows something about

> >Magnesium...most doctors  are ignorant about the benefits of Magnesium

> > >

> > >  

> > >

> > > As I said, I will write more in my blog  and provide more useful info

when I

> >have time....

> > >

> > >  

> > >

> > >  

> > >

> > > I am not a doctor or Naturopath, but someone who benefitted from Magnesium

> >supplements   after doctors ( 5 of them ) could fix my depression ,

panic

> >attacks ,  cramps , Bruxism ( night teeth grinding)

> >

> > >

> > > Foggy mind, poor memory irritability  problems .

> > >

> > >  

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Subject: wisconsin and hurting

> > >

> > > To: fibromyalgiacured

> > >

> > > Received: Tuesday, 30 November, 2010, 10:41 AM

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >  

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > My name is and I live in Wisconsin. I was diagnosed about ten years

ago

> >with fibro and since then really haven't done anything about it. I thought I

> >could just live with the pain. Well this weekend with the cold weather was

> >enough to put me over the edge. I made a appointment to see the doctor to see

> >what can help relieve some of the pain. I just joined you group yesterday and

so

> >the bee thing and eating more vegan is all new to me. I would like to go to

the

> >doctor and ask intelligent questions about what might help because I really

> >don't want to take any more drugs than I am all ready on. My thyroid doesn't

> >work either. Any suggestions and how do I even get started?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

I did atkins before but was not as faithful as I am right now. I went out and

got some books from my mom. she has lost 50 plus pounds on it. I know I don't

have a choice in the matter any more my life depends on it. Just trying to get

past the constipation part and the craving part right now. I know if I get some

of this weight of I will start to feel better and eating better will always help

me. The problem was before I had gerd " acid reflux " and vegetables and fruits

and meats just gave me so much gas and up set my stomach it was easier to eat

the pasta, and that is were the weight came on. I had surgery to fix that and

now can eat healthier foods so I don't have any more excuses. Now I just need

the will power and energy. I just came back from the doctor this week and he

said that I have mono and he also wants to schedule me for a colonoscopy. So

once I get my strength back from the virus and hopefully the won't find any

thing they can't fix I should be on the right track.

> Congratulations, ,

> I know it is terribly hard to get the sugar/flour carb monkey off your back.

It is a terrible addiction that many are not aware of. When I finally got

'cleaned', I felt a hundred percent better. The way I describe it is: my body

feels clean...so clean, I seem to be looking through crystal glass rather than

the brain fogginess, and eyesight blurr.

> I hope you can steadily take the first steps to a better way of living and

feeling. You will see what we mean in a matter of a couple of weeks. Don't give

up.

> Seeing it clearly,

>

>

>

>

> > > Lovell,

>

> > >

>

> > > Keep up with magnesium. It is a foundation to help with absorbtion of many

>

> > >nutrients and many cutting edge drs say it really helps with fybro. It is

one of

>

> > >the 2 ingredients in Corvalen M. Google magnesium or look on youtube

because it

>

> > >is very necessary for so much in the body and it helps alleviate much fybro

>

> > >pain.

>

> > >

>

> > > Love,

>

> > >

>

> > > Jean

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > >  HI

>

> > > >

>

> > > >  

>

> > > >

>

> > > > I saw your desperate message.....Hereâs a quick suggestion. I will

write more

>

> > >in a Blog when I have a time .

>

> > > >

>

> > > >  I had a friend suffer from what appears to be Fibro  for some 5

>

> > >years...pain all over , tired , depressed  cramps etc

>

> > > >

>

> > > > Heâd wake up in the morning all stiff and in pain.

>

> > > >

>

> > > >  I suggested he take Magnesium  supplements ... ( but please do

not take

>

> > >Magnesium if you have known kidney or heart problems, with clearance from a

>

> > >doctor )

>

> > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > >  

>

> > > >

>

> > > > Within 48 hours , he was getting relief...massive change.

>

> > > >

>

> > > >  

>

> > > >

>

> > > > Not sure if it will work in you case...but worth trying

>

> > > >

>

> > > >  

>

> > > >

>

> > > > Please MAKE SURE you take you Magnesium supplements 

>

> > > >

>

> > > >  

>

> > > >

>

> > > > 1.       On empty stomach

>

> > > >

>

> > > > 2.       1 hour before sleep

>

> > > >

>

> > > > Other Guidelines:

>

> > > >

>

> > > >  

>

> > > >

>

> > > > 3.       If you are drink lots of tea, please cut down

....Tannin in tea

>

> > >block absorption of ALL minerals

>

> > > >

>

> > > > 4.       If you consume  SOY bean products STOP,

Phytates in Soy block

>

> > >absorption of ALL minerals

>

> > > >

>

> > > > 5.       If you are vegetarian ,  understand that

may be a

>

> > >contributing factor

>

> > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > >  

>

> > > >

>

> > > > PLEASE consult a  qualified Naturopath who knows something about

>

> > >Magnesium...most doctors  are ignorant about the benefits of Magnesium

>

> > > >

>

> > > >  

>

> > > >

>

> > > > As I said, I will write more in my blog  and provide more useful info

when I

>

> > >have time....

>

> > > >

>

> > > >  

>

> > > >

>

> > > >  

>

> > > >

>

> > > > I am not a doctor or Naturopath, but someone who benefitted from

Magnesium

>

> > >supplements   after doctors ( 5 of them ) could fix my depression ,

panic

>

> > >attacks ,  cramps , Bruxism ( night teeth grinding)

>

> > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > > Foggy mind, poor memory irritability  problems .

>

> > > >

>

> > > >  

>

> > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > > Subject: wisconsin and hurting

>

> > > >

>

> > > > To: fibromyalgiacured

>

> > > >

>

> > > > Received: Tuesday, 30 November, 2010, 10:41 AM

>

> > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > >  

>

> > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > > My name is and I live in Wisconsin. I was diagnosed about ten

years ago

>

> > >with fibro and since then really haven't done anything about it. I thought

I

>

> > >could just live with the pain. Well this weekend with the cold weather was

>

> > >enough to put me over the edge. I made a appointment to see the doctor to

see

>

> > >what can help relieve some of the pain. I just joined you group yesterday

and so

>

> > >the bee thing and eating more vegan is all new to me. I would like to go to

the

>

> > >doctor and ask intelligent questions about what might help because I really

>

> > >don't want to take any more drugs than I am all ready on. My thyroid

doesn't

>

> > >work either. Any suggestions and how do I even get started?

>

> > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > >