Re: I got my test results back from Dr Kolb

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Nan,

I'm sorry you're so sick! From what I understand, a MSH at eight is evidence that you've been very sick . . . and that you've got a lot of work to do to get better.

I'm sure will tell you about hers . . . first failed, then after detoxing passed the VCS test . . . Her MSH is still low, but she's feeling better.

What you will see in medical journals is data from people who have followed mainstream medicine for the most part . . . After all, that's how we ended up with the breast implant fiasco too! . . . There are a lot of things you can do to get control of your diet and to restore your digestive system that mainstream medicine overlooks. As long as there is breath in you, there is hope for getting better. Unfortunately, it calls on you to do most of the work while you're not feeling up to it.

Have you done any of the ionic foot baths? . . . I'm hearing outstanding reports from the women who are using them.

Hugs and prayers,

Rogene

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Nan,

My Alpha MSH is below and 8... It is the master hormone in your body which supports all other hormones..... It messes lots of stuff up and basically means bio-toxins in our bodies that done this to us.... Diet, Detox and supliments you feel better, but it takes time... I am reading a book right now to learn more on this... What happens is we get to much leptin?? So I am learning still on how to control this.. I don't sleep at night either and the bio toxin chart I have all, it is awful how these "safe" implants did this to us.... I only wish there was a quick cure, take a pill and totally well in a few weeks...... This should be illegal to put these devices in women bodies, knowing there is no cure for us... RATS

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Rogene,

I do think the foot bath helped a lot.. My MSH went even lower to below 8, but I feel better with detox, so not impossible to do..... Keep on moving on Nan you can do this..... I will post more regarding MSH really Soon I am trying to learn more regarding how to raise this up a notch or two so our bodies will stop producing to much leptin????? God Bless

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So true and Amen to that..... I ask Dr. Kolb about her patients with the MSH and all do get better, unless they live in a house with mold issues.... Nan be so careful I am worried about you in that regards...... God Bless

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Nan,

Yes I am better since explant with the MSH a very low 8..... I was just like you and loved my sugar and all the foods you mentioned..... Sorry to announce you will not get better eating like this, it was truly the hardest thing I had to face with my sickness. The DIET

If you don't follow the diet then you will make little if no progress..... I was very skeptical at first, just like you sick, scared, confused and tired of just being sick... I had to do this, see if the diet would help me.... I would suggest following that diet on Dr. Kolb's sheet or buying the book "Maker's Diet" following it.....NO Wheat and NO Bread is the main thing and key to stop our symptom flare ups. You eat sugar, you stay sick...... So hard at first but know I slip up about once a month instead of daily.... I see chocolate and I think ewwwwww Yeast.... In time it will be so much easier for you to do this diet. You have a protocol and a diet and this is our only hope, plus stop all negative thinking..... Frustration will stop healing.... Eating sugar and wheat and bread and pasta, will stop healing..... I eat the safe bread approved by the makers diet, in frozen section of food stores, in a orange packet and called Sprouted 100% whole grain bread, it is actually good and I am used to it now. I keep in freezer and get a piece out as needed.... Toast a piece put some peanut butter on it, Yum....

Eat veggies, soak in lemon juice and salt water to kill pesticides first.... Buy Sea Salt..... Eat eggs.... I eat the salmon packets, sold in a packet, not can, at stores around the tuna isle, they are like $1.19 a packet.... Sprinkle some sea salt on it and good..... Eat chicken boiled..... Eat a raw garlic clove a day (organic garlic) I put it in a piece of meat and eat away, nasty at first but just think of how it helping you and you get used to it... Took me forever for the diet, but I started to see progress only until I cracked down on myself. You cheat you suffer type control.... Mind over Matter..... I block out stress in my life..... I did the foot baths....... I have done a few infra red sauna treatments..... I am broke as a joke, I just do as I can which is not near as much as I would like..... Eat some fruits..... Celery and peanut butter, boiled eggs with sea salt..... Sea Salt can be found at grocery story right next to regular table salt.... Some say there allergic to Iodine, but I am not.... I sip on water all day long.... I get bored with that so I put some lemon juice in water, this is good for you, lemon juice.... If heartburn, take a tablespoon of lemon juice, if don't get better get you some digestive enzymes to help break down your food for you.... Turkey Rhubarb is helping several of us, rid toxins from colon and rebuilding our leaky gut..... Keeping us regular and ridding IBS........ Probiotics is a must have and a good fungal defense......We all seem to have yeast and this gives lots of symptoms that we have..... There is just so much I don't want to over load you.... Take it slow and calm down, you are not like this forever..... If you slip and feel worse because of it, then this helps us move on without cheating... Try to rest even though so hard with the MSH, I know I have this problem.... We don't seem to have an appetite, however we crave sugar, to feed the yeast.... We can't sleep...... I am trying to do something new, eat a small meal every two hours, keep time of meal, since we have no memory or sense of time..... If you also eat say a meat at one sitting and say veggie at next setting, I heard this might help break down our food better? Still learning myself, but I can give you hope that if you learn your body, you can get better.... Lots of work and patients required..... I was MRS. IMPATIENT, so know if I can do this so can you.....Good Luck

God Bless

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Nan,

NO I do not have my story, if you would like you can private e-mail me and I will give you my phone number or I can call you and tell you my story though..... God Bless You

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Nan, It's okay to deal with these emotions....it's best to deal with them now then to allow them to keep stressing you out as they continue to build. Watch a sappy movie or something and just get it out! It was good that you went to Kolb...don't ever think you're not getting better, because you will. It will take more research and some work, but it will happen. Keep your chin up and know that there are a lot of people that have gotten better and so can we!!!! nnnttwilliams <nnnttwilliams@...> wrote: I did some vision test which showed my right side is affected and my msh test is 8, which is bad, but she said that is why I feel so sick. I am following the diet and the diflucan and supplements. I don't fully understand all of this, would have been easier to get something that everyone else has and understands. I don't even know what to call what this is. I have bounced around with so many diagnoses, but this makes a lot of sense and describes my symptoms. I did look on our archives and found info on msh but can't explain it to my husband. It sure makes sense why I thought all these strange random things were happening, like not being able to sleep which has never been a problem and having such severe fatigue and muscle aches, and having lost feeling in my right arm, it all goes together. Question is, can I ever get my msh back to normal. I

read one doctors input and it said no, another said yes. I can't bombard Dr Kolb with all these questions, so I am trying my best to understand it all. Oh, so I guess that means the implants were probably leaking, how else would I get mold in there? And last, HIT me like a ton of bricks yesterday that this is INSANE that I have been like death for so long because of implants. I would have never thought this could happen. I have not allowed myself to feel anything about this experience, when I have fleeting thoughts I stop right away, because I need all my energy to heal right now. When I get to a better place, I think I am going to have to deal with a lof of emotions. Nan

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Thanks , but did your msh go up after doing all of that? And

any diet clues would be helpful, I am starving. I am a meat and

potatoes and dessert person, pizza, cereal, all the normal stuff.

All this healthy stuff is just not enough food for me! I am already

thin. At this point, I would starve myself to get better. Are you

better ? Nan

>

> Nan,

>

> My Alpha MSH is below and 8... It is the master hormone in your

body which

> supports all other hormones..... It messes lots of stuff up and

basically

> means bio-toxins in our bodies that done this to us.... Diet,

Detox and

> supliments you feel better, but it takes time... I am reading a

book right now to

> learn more on this... What happens is we get to much leptin?? So I

am learning

> still on how to control this.. I don't sleep at night either and

the bio toxin

> chart I have all, it is awful how these " safe " implants did this

to us.... I

> only wish there was a quick cure, take a pill and totally well in

a few

> weeks...... This should be illegal to put these devices in women

bodies, knowing

> there is no cure for us... RATS

>

> ~

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--Thanks so much , I am going to take those suggestions, I live

by a health food store so I can get all of that. Do you have your

story posted anywhere to read? Nan

- In , toxicsalines@... wrote:

>

> Nan,

>

> Yes I am better since explant with the MSH a very low 8..... I

was just like

> you and loved my sugar and all the foods you mentioned..... Sorry

to

> announce you will not get better eating like this, it was truly

the hardest thing I

> had to face with my sickness. The DIET

> If you don't follow the diet then you will make little if no

progress..... I

> was very skeptical at first, just like you sick, scared, confused

and tired

> of just being sick... I had to do this, see if the diet would

help me.... I

> would suggest following that diet on Dr. Kolb's sheet or buying

the book

> " Maker's Diet " following it.....NO Wheat and NO Bread is the main

thing and key to

> stop our symptom flare ups. You eat sugar, you stay sick......

So hard at

> first but know I slip up about once a month instead of daily....

I see chocolate

> and I think ewwwwww Yeast.... In time it will be so much easier

for you to

> do this diet. You have a protocol and a diet and this is our only

hope, plus

> stop all negative thinking..... Frustration will stop healing....

Eating sugar

> and wheat and bread and pasta, will stop healing..... I eat the

safe bread

> approved by the makers diet, in frozen section of food stores, in

a orange

> packet and called Sprouted 100% whole grain bread, it is actually

good and I am

> used to it now. I keep in freezer and get a piece out as

needed.... Toast a

> piece put some peanut butter on it, Yum....

> Eat veggies, soak in lemon juice and salt water to kill pesticides

first....

> Buy Sea Salt..... Eat eggs.... I eat the salmon packets, sold in

a packet,

> not can, at stores around the tuna isle, they are like $1.19 a

packet....

> Sprinkle some sea salt on it and good..... Eat chicken

boiled..... Eat a raw

> garlic clove a day (organic garlic) I put it in a piece of meat

and eat away,

> nasty at first but just think of how it helping you and you get

used to it...

> Took me forever for the diet, but I started to see progress only

until I

> cracked down on myself. You cheat you suffer type control....

Mind over Matter.....

> I block out stress in my life..... I did the foot baths....... I

have done a

> few infra red sauna treatments..... I am broke as a joke, I just

do as I can

> which is not near as much as I would like..... Eat some

fruits..... Celery

> and peanut butter, boiled eggs with sea salt..... Sea Salt can be

found at

> grocery story right next to regular table salt.... Some say there

allergic to

> Iodine, but I am not.... I sip on water all day long.... I get

bored with that

> so I put some lemon juice in water, this is good for you, lemon

juice.... If

> heartburn, take a tablespoon of lemon juice, if don't get better

get you some

> digestive enzymes to help break down your food for you.... Turkey

Rhubarb is

> helping several of us, rid toxins from colon and rebuilding our

leaky gut.....

> Keeping us regular and ridding IBS........ Probiotics is a must

have and a

> good fungal defense......We all seem to have yeast and this gives

lots of

> symptoms that we have..... There is just so much I don't want to

over load you....

> Take it slow and calm down, you are not like this forever..... If

you slip

> and feel worse because of it, then this helps us move on without

cheating... Try

> to rest even though so hard with the MSH, I know I have this

problem.... We

> don't seem to have an appetite, however we crave sugar, to feed

the yeast....

> We can't sleep...... I am trying to do something new, eat a small

meal every

> two hours, keep time of meal, since we have no memory or sense of

time.....

> If you also eat say a meat at one sitting and say veggie at next

setting, I

> heard this might help break down our food better? Still learning

myself, but I

> can give you hope that if you learn your body, you can get

better.... Lots of

> work and patients required..... I was MRS. IMPATIENT, so know if I

can do this

> so can you.....Good Luck

>

> God Bless

>

> ~

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, yes I would think that it would be helpful, we sound similar

in our experience. My email is

ca_girl@...

thanks so much for all your support and guidance

>

> Nan,

>

> NO I do not have my story, if you would like you can private e-

mail me and I

> will give you my phone number or I can call you and tell you my

story

> though..... God Bless You

>

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Nan,

If you'll concentrate on the foods you CAN eat, rather than those you can't, it's easier.

However, until you get the fungal/yeast organisms under control, you'll be craving sugar and refined grains like crazy because that's what feeds them.

Once you get these organisms under control, you'll find that sweets often taste icky!

It is very hard to abruptly change your diet . . . Start by getting rid of the worse offenders (anything with sugar), then as you find healthy foods you like, you can incorporate more of them into your diet over time.

Hugs and prayers,

Rogene

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Google has improved their search engine dramatically. .. . I plugged in "leptin" and got all kinds suggestion for carrying the "leptin" search further . . . but none on OVER production . . . Underproduction seems to be more of a problem.

What is this about too much leptin?

Rogene

Re: I got my test results back from Dr Kolb

Rogene,

I do think the foot bath helped a lot.. My MSH went even lower to below 8, but I feel better with detox, so not impossible to do..... Keep on moving on Nan you can do this..... I will post more regarding MSH really Soon I am trying to learn more regarding how to raise this up a notch or two so our bodies will stop producing to much leptin????? God Bless

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Rogene,

When our MSH is so low, we produce to much leptin...... I am reading a book called Mastering Leptin...... This is why we don't sleep, lose weight and lots of other symptoms... I will let you know as I read the book further.......

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