Guest guest Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 When they did the biopsy on my prostate they removed the cancer from my bladder >>> I'm not sure this is medically possible? Unless they actaully cut you open to do the biopsy? and the spots on my lungs won't kill me & won't spread so that leaves the prostate. >>> This statement is not necessarily true at all. Prostate cancer is highly agressive once it leaves your Prostate. If you have your Prostate removed that does not remove the PCa cells from your blood stream nor does it remove the tumors in your lungs.I figure that if I have the prostate removed then I will have a real chance of survival. What I want to know here is who agrees & who dis-agrees & please tell my why you feel the way you go. Emerson Surgery on prostate I am 58 years old, diagnosed PCa 8-9-06 Gleason 9. hasn't gone into the bone, has spread to my lungs & bladder. Taking Casodex pills & Zoledex shots. When they did the biopsy on my prostate they removed the cancer from my bladder and the spots on my lungs won't kill me & won't spread so that leaves the prostate. I figure that if I have the prostate removed then I will have a real chance of survival. What I want to know here is who agrees & who dis-agrees & please tell my why you feel the way you go. Thank-you --- Manley http://www.geocitie s.com/jim_ p_manley/ index.html http://web.mac. com/jamespmanley /iWeb/Photoshop_ Elements God's Plan for Salvation http://web.mac. com/jamespmanley /iWeb/Gods_ plan/Welcome. html I am 58 years old, diagnosed PCa 8-9-06 Gleason 9. hasn't gone into the bone, has spread to my lungs & bladder. Taking Casodex pills & Zoledex shots. I am convinced that my GOD and Lord Jesus Christ will heal me as a testimony to his love. 2 Chronicles 20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 --- Manley http://www.geocities.com/jim_p_manley/index.html http://web.mac.com/jamespmanley/iWeb/Photoshop_Elements http://web.mac.com/jamespmanley/iWeb/Gods_plan/Welcome.html > > > When they did the biopsy on my prostate they removed the cancer from > my bladder > >>> I'm not sure this is medically possible? Unless they actaully > cut you open to do the biopsy? They removed it from my penis. > > and the spots on my lungs won't kill me & won't spread so > that leaves the prostate. > >>> This statement is not necessarily true at all. Prostate cancer > is highly agressive once it leaves your Prostate. If you have your > Prostate removed that does not remove the PCa cells from your blood > stream nor does it remove the tumors in your lungs. My oncologist told me the spots on my lungs are from my prostate & that it won't kill me. He also said that the spots won't spread from the lungs but that it will spread from my prostate. You still didn't give me your opinion? > > > > > > Emerson > > > Surgery on prostate > > I am 58 years old, diagnosed PCa 8-9-06 Gleason 9. hasn't gone into > the bone, has spread to my lungs & bladder. Taking Casodex pills & > Zoledex shots. > > When they did the biopsy on my prostate they removed the cancer from > my bladder and the spots on my lungs won't kill me & won't spread so > that leaves the prostate. I figure that if I have the prostate > removed then I will have a real chance of survival. > > What I want to know here is who agrees & who dis-agrees & please tell > my why you feel the way you go. > > Thank-you > > --- > Manley > http://www.geocitie s.com/jim_ p_manley/ index.html > http://web.mac. com/jamespmanley /iWeb/Photoshop_ Elements > > God's Plan for Salvation > http://web.mac. com/jamespmanley /iWeb/Gods_ plan/Welcome. html > > I am 58 years old, diagnosed PCa 8-9-06 Gleason 9. > hasn't gone into the bone, has spread to my lungs > & bladder. Taking Casodex pills & Zoledex shots. > I am convinced that my GOD and Lord Jesus Christ > will heal me as a testimony to his love. > > 2 Chronicles 20 > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 - If it is certain that you will need radiation anyway, most doctors say that there is no benefit to removing the prostate. Radiation is equal to surgery in treating PCa so removing the prostate would only increase side-effects. Mick Manley wrote: I am 58 years old, diagnosed PCa 8-9-06 Gleason 9. hasn't gone into the bone, has spread to my lungs & bladder. Taking Casodex pills & Zoledex shots. When they did the biopsy on my prostate they removed the cancer from my bladder and the spots on my lungs won't kill me & won't spread so that leaves the prostate. I figure that if I have the prostate removed then I will have a real chance of survival. What I want to know here is who agrees & who dis-agrees & please tell my why you feel the way you go. Thank-you --- Manley http://www.geocities.com/jim_p_manley/index.html http://web.mac.com/jamespmanley/iWeb/Photoshop_Elements God's Plan for Salvation http://web.mac.com/jamespmanley/iWeb/Gods_plan/Welcome.html I am 58 years old, diagnosed PCa 8-9-06 Gleason 9. hasn't gone into the bone, has spread to my lungs & bladder. Taking Casodex pills & Zoledex shots. I am convinced that my GOD and Lord Jesus Christ will heal me as a testimony to his love. 2 Chronicles 20 God rewards those that keep on keeping on. Stay positive. Think positive. Pray positive. And talk positive. Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2006 Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 Hi Phil, You seem to be a very optimistic person. I hope very much that you are not disappointed, but the odds are against you. You said, "What convinved me more to go the surgery route is thatafter chemo the cells are dead essentially. But laterif anything does crop up.. surgical removal is not anoption. Surgery cannot be done on dead tissue." That is not true. Surgery can be done after radiation or chemo. But it is usually not done- If the cancer returns, then usually the best approach is to use hormone ablation, radiation or more chemo. You also said that you expect to be back to normal in 2-3 weeks. I hate to be the one to tell you, but after surgery, you will never be back to normal. There are side effects with all therapies, I believe more so with surgery. You should do a lot or research and explore all your options. I had surgery in 1992. I am still impotent. I hope you do better. I wish you all the bestAubrey Pilgrim, DC (Ret.) Author ofA Revolutionary Approach to Prostate Cancer-Read the original book for FREE at: http://www.prostatepointers.org/prostate/lay/apilgrim/Read new edition for FREE at http://www.cancer.prostate-help.org/capilgr.htmDr. E. Crawford is co-author of the revision You said, "As my cancer is contained, removal remaoves all sources and the problem should not return." Phil, cancer cells are microscopic. There is absolutely no way to be sure that all of the cancer was removed. What convinved me more to go the surgery route is thatafter chemo the cells are dead essentially. But laterif anything does crop up.. surgical removal is not anoption. Surgery cannot be done on dead tissue.Can Chemo be donne after treatment, again after ten ,twenty years.... I dont know. As my cancer iscontained, removal remaoves all sources and theproblem should not return.Monitoring the psa over time will disclose anyissues.As Im 58, twenty plus years is fine with me. ASfar as we have com ein theraopies in the past tenyears, imagine the next twenty....I expect to beback to normal within 2-3 weeks...totally over everything within a month. (not includingany incontinence issues.Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2006 Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 > Radiation is equal to surgery in treating PCa The radiation oncologists I've consulted have not gone quite so far as such a blanket statement. They concede that if surgery can remove all the cancer (consult the Partin tables or the Sloan-Kettering online model for the probability of this), surgery may provide a higher 20- year disease-specific survival rate. I stress the 20-year timeframe, not 10-year, as being more relevant to men in their 40s and 50s with good health otherwise. How much higher and whether it's worth it are matters of vigorous debate, and you'll get no definitive answers from this forum or anywhere else. That's what I heard from the radiation guys, not the surgeons. Even so, there are many " if's " and " may's " in this position, as in all other aspects of PCa. My point is that surgery has its place, even if it's limited. After reading this group for a while, the tone seems generally more anti-surgical than the medical advice I received from numerous sources. That's not a bad thing -- surgery should not be chosen casually. Folks who disagree can add their opinions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2006 Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 What convinved me more to go the surgery route is that after chemo the cells are dead essentially. But later if anything does crop up.. surgical removal is not an option. Surgery cannot be done on dead tissue. Can Chemo be donne after treatment, again after ten , twenty years.... I dont know. As my cancer is contained, removal remaoves all sources and the problem should not return. Monitoring the psa over time will disclose any issues.As Im 58, twenty plus years is fine with me. AS far as we have com ein theraopies in the past ten years, imagine the next twenty.... I expect to beback to normal within 2-3 weeks... totally over everything within a month. (not including any incontinence issues. Phil --- Chuck Till wrote: > > Radiation is equal to surgery in treating PCa > > The radiation oncologists I've consulted have not > gone quite so far as > such a blanket statement. They concede that if > surgery can remove all > the cancer (consult the Partin tables or the > Sloan-Kettering online > model for the probability of this), surgery may > provide a higher 20- > year disease-specific survival rate. I stress the > 20-year timeframe, > not 10-year, as being more relevant to men in their > 40s and 50s with > good health otherwise. How much higher and whether > it's worth it are > matters of vigorous debate, and you'll get no > definitive answers from > this forum or anywhere else. That's what I heard > from the radiation > guys, not the surgeons. Even so, there are many > " if's " and " may's " in > this position, as in all other aspects of PCa. My > point is that surgery > has its place, even if it's limited. > > After reading this group for a while, the tone seems > generally more > anti-surgical than the medical advice I received > from numerous sources. > That's not a bad thing -- surgery should not be > chosen casually. Folks > who disagree can add their opinions. > > Best Regards Phil Peer into my world.... http://myamiphil.mosaicglobe.com/ Owner and Moderator: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/hsp_Visual_Journey/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/hspwork/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/hspspaces/ Co-owner / Moderator: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/sensitives/ Moderator: http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/FulltimeRVingSeniors/ ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2006 Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 Hi , The cancer cells may be any place in your body, not just the three places they discovered. Hormone ablation can find and treat the cancer no matter where it may be residing. I wish you all the bestAubrey Pilgrim, DC (Ret.) Author ofA Revolutionary Approach to Prostate Cancer-Read the original book for FREE at: http://www.prostatepointers.org/prostate/lay/apilgrim/Read new edition for FREE at http://www.cancer.prostate-help.org/capilgr.htmDr. E. Crawford is co-author of the revision It isn't certain. My oncologist did not consider radiation due to the fact that it has spread. I don't understand why they can't go in & hit all 3 places? If it won't save my life, then I think it would extend it to 20 years from 3 years.Please correct me if I am wrong.--- Manley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2006 Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 Hi, could you please outline the choices one has to choose from and the side effects on each. I have to choose fairly soon & that info would be VERY helpful. Thank-you Best regards --- I am 58 years old, diagnosed PCa 8-9-06 Gleason 9. hasn't gone into the bone, has spread to my lungs & bladder. Latest PSA was .03 (was 7.7). Taking Casodex pills & Zoledex shots. Manley > You also said that you expect to be back to normal in 2-3 weeks. > I hate to be the one to tell you, but after surgery, you will never > be back to normal. There are side effects with all therapies, I > believe more so with surgery. You should do a lot or research > and explore all your options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2006 Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 Impotence is not an issue for me.....I dont plan to have any more children.... Being back to normal I meant that I would be able to return to work..... rather than 3-4 months with radical surgery. There still may be an issue with incontinence... but that varies. Some recover soon others up to a year. My doctor definitely mentioned that killed tissue do to chemo or other destroying treaments cannot be surgically worked on. In other words if you decided to remove the prostate later you couldnt.... THe concern that if cancer rearises surgery wouldnt be an option. My cancer is contained, removing it early removes all possibilites that the prostate will be a cause of future cancer. Yes I am optimistic.. I WILL come out of this ok. Phil --- APilgrm@... wrote: > > > Hi Phil, > > You seem to be a very optimistic person. I hope very > much that > you are not disappointed, but the odds are against > you. > > You said, " What convinved me more to go the surgery > route is that > after chemo the cells are dead essentially. But > later > if anything does crop up.. surgical removal is not > an > option. Surgery cannot be done on dead tissue. " > > > That is not true. Surgery can be done after > radiation or chemo. > But it is usually not done- If the cancer returns, > then usually the > best approach is to use hormone ablation, radiation > or more > chemo. > > You also said that you expect to be back to normal > in 2-3 weeks. > I hate to be the one to tell you, but after surgery, > you will never > be back to normal. There are side effects with all > therapies, I > believe more so with surgery. You should do a lot or > research > and explore all your options. > > I had surgery in 1992. I am still impotent. I hope > you do better. > > > > I wish you all the best > > Aubrey Pilgrim, DC (Ret.) Author of > A Revolutionary Approach to Prostate Cancer-Read > the original book > for FREE at: > _http://www.prostatepointers.org/prostate/lay/apilgrim/_ > > (http://www.prostatepointers.org/prostate/lay/apilgrim/) > > Read new edition for FREE at > _http://www.cancer.prostate-help.org/capilgr.htm_ > (http://www.cancer.prostate-help.org/capilgr.htm) > Dr. E. Crawford is co-author of the revision > > > > > > You said, " As my cancer is contained, removal > remaoves all sources > and the problem should not return. " > > > Phil, cancer cells are microscopic. There is > absolutely no way to > be sure that all of the cancer was removed. > > In a message dated 12/1/2006 9:47:43 A.M. Eastern > Standard Time, > myamiphil@... writes: > > What convinved me more to go the surgery route is > that > after chemo the cells are dead essentially. But > later > if anything does crop up.. surgical removal is not > an > option. Surgery cannot be done on dead tissue. > > Can Chemo be donne after treatment, again after ten > , > twenty years.... I dont know. As my cancer is > contained, removal remaoves all sources and the > problem should not return. > > Monitoring the psa over time will disclose any > issues.As Im 58, twenty plus years is fine with me. > AS > far as we have com ein theraopies in the past ten > years, imagine the next twenty.... > > I expect to beback to normal within 2-3 weeks... > totally over everything within a month. (not > including > any incontinence issues. > > Phil > > > > > > Best Regards Phil Peer into my world.... http://myamiphil.mosaicglobe.com/ Owner and Moderator: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/hsp_Visual_Journey/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/hspwork/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/hspspaces/ Co-owner / Moderator: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/sensitives/ Moderator: http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/FulltimeRVingSeniors/ ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2006 Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 I just want to get the ball rolling. I want to try & beat this thing. I am just sitting here doing nothing. True it is slow growing but the first time I went through all the tests I was a Gleason 9 out of a possible 10. I must of had the cancer eating my insides for at least 10 years I figure being slow and all. My PSA was 7.7 when I first started treatment & 3 months it is .03. I respond well to treatment & that is why I think I can beat this thing. I has Hepatitis C (from a lousy tattoo artist) & I beat it in 3 months. Pronounced cured. I can beat this. I feel it. When prostate cancer spreads it goes to the bones first & mine didn't. It has broken all the rules so why not break the rules that say you can't die? Thanks for the reply Best regards --- Manley I am 58 years old, diagnosed PCa 8-9-06 Gleason 9. hasn't gone into the bone, has spread to my lungs & bladder. Latest PSA was .03 (was 7.7). Taking Casodex pills & Zoledex shots. > " I have to choose fairly soon " > > who is telling you that? Prostrate Cancer is SLOW > growing. So please take your time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2006 Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 As you can see from my signature I am on Casodex and Zoledex shots and my PSA is .03. I believe that Zoledex is Androgen Deprivation Therapy (ADT) that you mentioned. Please correct me if I am wrong. --- Manley I am 58 years old, diagnosed PCa 8-9-06 Gleason 9. hasn't gone into the bone, has spread to my lungs & bladder. Latest PSA was .03 (was 7.7). Taking Casodex pills & Zoledex shots. > With a Gleason of 9, the odds of having systemic disease is very > great. If it were me, I would first consider Androgen Deprivation > Therapy (ADT). Prostate cancer cells thrive on androgens, > testosterone and hormones from the adrenals. Ordinarily, this > therapy will slow down or even possibly put the cancer in remission. > One needs to stay on the hormone ablation for at least a year. > > Sometimes the cancer cells learn to live without hormones or > become hormone refractory. In that case the next step is usually > Ketoconazole plus hydrocortisone. If this stops working, then the > next step would be to consider chemotherapy. > > If it were me, I would try to find a good oncologist who specialized > in treating advanced prostate cancer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2006 Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 Hi Phil. > Impotence is not an issue for me.....I dont plan to > have any more children.... I will second that motion. Tell me. why can't dead tissue be removed? I can come out OK if I have an oncologist that would treat me hard & heavy. --- Manley > Impotence is not an issue for me.....I dont plan to > have any more children.... > > Being back to normal I meant that I would be able to > return to work..... rather than 3-4 months with > radical surgery. There still may be an issue with > incontinence... but that varies. Some recover soon > others up to a year. > > My doctor definitely mentioned that killed tissue do > to chemo or other destroying treaments cannot be > surgically worked on. In other words if you decided to > remove the prostate later you couldnt.... THe concern > that if cancer rearises surgery wouldnt be an option. > > My cancer is contained, removing it early removes all > possibilites that the prostate will be a cause of > future cancer. > > Yes I am optimistic.. I WILL come out of this ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2006 Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 That is true, however, they are small & weak. Being that is the case, can't the treatment along with the body be able to fight the little suckers off? I figure & come to conclusions based on pure logic. Best Regards & thanks for the reply --- Manley I am 58 years old, diagnosed PCa 8-9-06 Gleason 9. hasn't gone into the bone, has spread to my lungs & bladder. Latest PSA was .03 (was 7.7). Taking Casodex pills & Zoledex shots. > The cancer cells may be any place in your body, not just the three > places they discovered. Hormone ablation can find and treat the > cancer no matter where it may be residing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2006 Report Share Posted December 2, 2006 Hi , I'm a new member who's father has just been diagnosed with Prostate Cancer. I just wanted to mail you because I do believe a positive mental attitude goes a long long way to helping the body heal itself and accept healing treatments. Stay strong and focused. Take care, Clare Manley wrote: I just want to get the ball rolling. I want to try & beat this thing. I am just sitting here doing nothing. True it is slow growing but the first time I went through all the tests I was a Gleason 9 out of a possible 10. I must of had the cancer eating my insides for at least 10 years I figure being slow and all.My PSA was 7.7 when I first started treatment & 3 months it is .03. I respond well to treatment & that is why I think I can beat this thing. I has Hepatitis C (from a lousy tattoo artist) & I beat it in 3 months. Pronounced cured. I can beat this. I feel it. When prostate cancer spreads it goes to the bones first & mine didn't. It has broken all the rules so why not break the rules that say you can't die?Thanks for the replyBest regards--- ManleyI am 58 years old, diagnosed PCa 8-9-06 Gleason 9.hasn't gone into the bone, has spread to my lungs & bladder. Latest PSA was .03 (was 7.7). TakingCasodex pills & Zoledex shots.> "I have to choose fairly soon ">> who is telling you that? Prostrate Cancer is SLOW> growing. So please take your time. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2006 Report Share Posted December 2, 2006 Hi, I just wanted to say a big thankyou to you for posting the link for your book with your signature. I have had a quick look and think it is going to help me and my family a great deal in coping with my fathers diagnosis. Take care, Clare APilgrm@... wrote: Hi , The cancer cells may be any place in your body, not just the three places they discovered. Hormone ablation can find and treat the cancer no matter where it may be residing. I wish you all the bestAubrey Pilgrim, DC (Ret.) Author ofA Revolutionary Approach to Prostate Cancer-Read the original book for FREE at: http://www.prostatepointers.org/prostate/lay/apilgrim/Read new edition for FREE at http://www.cancer.prostate-help.org/capilgr.htmDr. E. Crawford is co-author of the revision In a message dated 12/1/2006 5:29:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, Jesus.is.healing.my.cancergmail writes: It isn't certain. My oncologist did not consider radiation due to the fact that it has spread. I don't understand why they can't go in & hit all 3 places? If it won't save my life, then I think it would extend it to 20 years from 3 years.Please correct me if I am wrong.--- Manley Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2006 Report Share Posted December 2, 2006 Thank-you for your reply. I am trying to keep a positive attitude but it is difficult at times. --- Manley > > Hi , > > I'm a new member who's father has just been diagnosed with Prostate > Cancer. I just wanted to mail you because I do believe a positive > mental attitude goes a long long way to helping the body heal > itself and accept healing treatments. Stay strong and focused. > > Take care, Clare > > > > Manley wrote: > I just want to get the ball rolling. I want to try & beat this thing. > I am just sitting here doing nothing. True it is slow growing but the > first time I went through all the tests I was a Gleason 9 out of a > possible 10. I must of had the cancer eating my insides for at least > 10 years I figure being slow and all. > > My PSA was 7.7 when I first started treatment & 3 months it is .03. I > respond well to treatment & that is why I think I can beat this > thing. I has Hepatitis C (from a lousy tattoo artist) & I beat it in > 3 months. Pronounced cured. I can beat this. I feel it. When prostate > cancer spreads it goes to the bones first & mine didn't. It has > broken all the rules so why not break the rules that say you can't > die? > > Thanks for the reply > > Best regards > --- > Manley > > I am 58 years old, diagnosed PCa 8-9-06 Gleason 9. > hasn't gone into the bone, has spread to my lungs > & bladder. Latest PSA was .03 (was 7.7). Taking > Casodex pills & Zoledex shots. > > > > > " I have to choose fairly soon " > > > > who is telling you that? Prostrate Cancer is SLOW > > growing. So please take your time. > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http:// > uk.messenger.yahoo.com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2006 Report Share Posted December 2, 2006 You are very welcome. I just wish more members of this list felt as you do. --- Manley http://www.geocities.com/jim_p_manley/index.html http://web.mac.com/jamespmanley/iWeb/Photoshop_Elements http://web.mac.com/jamespmanley/iWeb/Gods_plan/Welcome.html > > Hi, I just wanted to say a big thankyou to you for posting the link > for your book with your signature. I have had a quick look and > think it is going to help me and my family a great deal in coping > with my fathers diagnosis. > > Take care, Clare > > APilgrm@... wrote: > Hi , > > The cancer cells may be any place in your body, not just the three > places they discovered. Hormone ablation can find and treat the > cancer no matter where it may be residing. > > > I wish you all the best > > Aubrey Pilgrim, DC (Ret.) Author of > A Revolutionary Approach to Prostate Cancer-Read the original book > for FREE at: http://www.prostatepointers.org/prostate/lay/apilgrim/ > Read new edition for FREE at http://www.cancer.prostate-help.org/ > capilgr.htm > Dr. E. Crawford is co-author of the revision > > > > In a message dated 12/1/2006 5:29:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > Jesus.is.healing.my.cancer@... writes: > It isn't certain. My oncologist did not consider radiation due to the > fact that it has spread. I don't understand why they can't go in & > hit all 3 places? If it won't save my life, then I think it would > extend it to 20 years from 3 years. > > Please correct me if I am wrong. > --- > Manley > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http:// > uk.messenger.yahoo.com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 , From what I know about your situation (gathered from your posts), you are on hormone treatment and your PSA has gone from 7.7 to .03. However, when detected, it had spread to your bladder and lungs. I don’t recall your staging? But IMHO (in my humble opinion) you appear to have advanced or metastatic PC. This stage is generally defined as: “In metastatic disease, the prostate cancer is growing outside the prostate and its immediate environs, possibly to more distant organs.” So you asked a few posts ago what to do? If I was in your shoes, and I am in a similar state, I’d ride the current treatment as long as possible. In our cases, surgery does not improve you odds. Doc’s are trained to “do no harm” and with the risks and potential side effects of PC surgery coupled with the fact removing to Prostate will not get rid of the area’s in your lungs and bladder, I find it hard to believe a doctor would perform surgery? Also, I’m still not clear how a doctor could go through your penis, to your bladder and remove the cancer? In my experience with advanced PC over the past two years I am only aware of one doc (at Mayo in Minnesota) that if performing surgery in advanced cases. Emerson www.flhw.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 Since it has spread, according to my Oncologist, there isn't a T staging. --- Manley > From what I know about your situation (gathered from your posts), > you are on hormone treatment and your PSA has gone from 7.7 to . > 03. However, when detected, it had spread to your bladder and > lungs. I don’t recall your staging? But IMHO (in my humble > opinion) you appear to have advanced or metastatic PC. This stage > is generally defined as: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 My dad's prostate cancer scores were as follows Gleason Scores 8 & 9, PSA of 4.96. His doctors (urologist and 2 separate radiation oncologist) do not recommend surgery because they feel that with that high of a gleason score they probably wouldn't get all of the cancer and since they would be giving him radiation anyway, why undergo surgery if they can hit all of the cancer with the radiation. They are looking at 7 - 9 weeks of radiation. I am 58 years old, diagnosed PCa 8-9-06 Gleason 9. hasn't gone into > the bone, has spread to my lungs & bladder. Taking Casodex pills & > Zoledex shots. > > When they did the biopsy on my prostate they removed the cancer from > my bladder and the spots on my lungs won't kill me & won't spread so > that leaves the prostate. I figure that if I have the prostate > removed then I will have a real chance of survival. > > What I want to know here is who agrees & who dis-agrees & please tell > my why you feel the way you go. > > Thank-you > > --- > Manley > http://www.geocities.com/jim_p_manley/index.html > http://web.mac.com/jamespmanley/iWeb/Photoshop_Elements > > God's Plan for Salvation > http://web.mac.com/jamespmanley/iWeb/Gods_plan/Welcome.html > > I am 58 years old, diagnosed PCa 8-9-06 Gleason 9. > hasn't gone into the bone, has spread to my lungs > & bladder. Taking Casodex pills & Zoledex shots. > I am convinced that my GOD and Lord Jesus Christ > will heal me as a testimony to his love. > > 2 Chronicles 20 > > > > > > > God rewards those that keep on keeping on. Stay positive. Think positive. Pray positive. And talk positive. > > > > --------------------------------- > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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