worse since scd...fruit/yeast

[Guest guest]

I've been thinking about this for the last week and trying to

remember to post it when I sit down at night, but I get caught up on

reading and forget each time...now that this is a current topic, it

just jogged my (yeast-laden) memory. I've been dealing with chronic

candidiasis since I was at least 14 y.o. due to three rounds of

antibiotics for strept throat, but didn't know that's what I was

dealing with til I happened upon info about yeast and autism 6 years

ago in relation to my kids. I've done everything you can imagine to

get rid of it as it leads to wicked PMS and soooo many other

problems. I'd been off all forms of sugar (fruit, table sugar, etc)

for three months when I found out about this diet and really believed

that the SCD would be the best way to go for myself and my two

girls...and so far it's been great! But I must say that when I ate

even a small amount of fruit or honey during the first two weeks,

within two hours it was like having pms when it wasn't time for it.

Immediate feelings of depression or irritability or just wanting to

be alone (the poor hubby). Since I was keeping a food log for each

of us, it was easy to see the relationship with food and behavior. I

stopped fruit and honey for two weeks, then started making the yogurt

during the end of the second week and adding a teaspoon of honey

(with fingers tightly crossed that I wouldn't feel like the previous

two weeks). I was able to tolerate the small amount of honey, and

after a week and a half of the yogurt (about a total of a cup and a

half per day for me) I am able to eat fruit without any

reaction...for the first time in many years! I'm sold on the diet!

My younger daughter seems to be okay with two pears/day and she eats

the yogurt (cow's milk--long story) without any reaction after 5

years gf/cf. My older daughter, who has always responded more

strongly to antifungals in the past) gets really irritable after

fruit or honey, scratches at her crotch within a few hours (lovely

visual, right?), and both girls have always picked at the midpoint of

their upper lip after a moderate amount of sugar. She hasn't been

able to tolerate cow or goat yogurt yet, and I'll be trying again in

a couple of months, but plan to start CP acidophilus at bedtime

tomorrow. Seems there's a relationship, perhaps, between getting the

good bacteria in and being able to tolerate more " sugar "

afterwards...at least that seems to be the case for us I suspect.

Just thought this might help for those still wondering about fruit or

no fruit in the early days. As others have said, you just have to

watch your own child to see what's best to do. And journal, journal,

journal! Would have loved to have been able to eat fruit and honey

right from the get-go as approved in BTVC, but for us it seems

getting the probiotics in there for a week or two helped in making

that possible. Just my (long-winded) 2 cents.

Rose (Mom to - 10 and - 7, both ASD; SCD family 4

weeks; posting from the jug-handle state of NJ)

[Guest guest]

Rose:

I'm in NJ too.

E-mail me privately!

Jacquie

In a message dated 1/5/2004 11:01:47 AM Eastern Standard Time,

sjfung@... writes:

Rose (Mom to - 10 and - 7, both ASD; SCD family 4

> weeks; posting from the jug-handle state of NJ)

[Guest guest]

Rose!

Thank you so much for posting your adult perspective about the

fruit/honey/yeast connection. It's so good to know " how it works "

for one person. And interesting that the tolerances are so

different even within your own family!

Sue (from Pickering)

> I've been thinking about this for the last week and trying to

> remember to post it when I sit down at night, but I get caught up

on

> reading and forget each time...now that this is a current topic,

it

> just jogged my (yeast-laden) memory. I've been dealing with

chronic

> candidiasis since I was at least 14 y.o. due to three rounds of

> antibiotics for strept throat, but didn't know that's what I was

> dealing with til I happened upon info about yeast and autism 6

years

> ago in relation to my kids. I've done everything you can imagine

to

> get rid of it as it leads to wicked PMS and soooo many other

> problems. I'd been off all forms of sugar (fruit, table sugar,

etc)

> for three months when I found out about this diet and really

believed

> that the SCD would be the best way to go for myself and my two

> girls...and so far it's been great! But I must say that when I

ate

> even a small amount of fruit or honey during the first two weeks,

> within two hours it was like having pms when it wasn't time for

it.

> Immediate feelings of depression or irritability or just wanting

to

> be alone (the poor hubby). Since I was keeping a food log for

each

> of us, it was easy to see the relationship with food and

behavior. I

> stopped fruit and honey for two weeks, then started making the

yogurt

> during the end of the second week and adding a teaspoon of honey

> (with fingers tightly crossed that I wouldn't feel like the

previous

> two weeks). I was able to tolerate the small amount of honey, and

> after a week and a half of the yogurt (about a total of a cup and

a

> half per day for me) I am able to eat fruit without any

> reaction...for the first time in many years! I'm sold on the

diet!

> My younger daughter seems to be okay with two pears/day and she

eats

> the yogurt (cow's milk--long story) without any reaction after 5

> years gf/cf. My older daughter, who has always responded more

> strongly to antifungals in the past) gets really irritable after

> fruit or honey, scratches at her crotch within a few hours (lovely

> visual, right?), and both girls have always picked at the midpoint

of

> their upper lip after a moderate amount of sugar. She hasn't been

> able to tolerate cow or goat yogurt yet, and I'll be trying again

in

> a couple of months, but plan to start CP acidophilus at bedtime

> tomorrow. Seems there's a relationship, perhaps, between getting

the

> good bacteria in and being able to tolerate more " sugar "

> afterwards...at least that seems to be the case for us I suspect.

> Just thought this might help for those still wondering about fruit

or

> no fruit in the early days. As others have said, you just have to

> watch your own child to see what's best to do. And journal,

journal,

> journal! Would have loved to have been able to eat fruit and

honey

> right from the get-go as approved in BTVC, but for us it seems

> getting the probiotics in there for a week or two helped in making

> that possible. Just my (long-winded) 2 cents.

> Rose (Mom to - 10 and - 7, both ASD; SCD family 4

> weeks; posting from the jug-handle state of NJ)