Re: Hyperthyroid w/nodules...having problems

[Guest guest]

Hi Jules,

When you are hyper your muscles often fire as a reaction to the high

hormone levels, if you are stressed those same areas that tend to be

tensed up from that also seem to be the same areas that get the most

muscle twitching and poorest healing... It was actually tendonitis in my

shoulders that got me back in the second time... it was that orthopedist

that diagnosed me as hyper. So I wouldn't be too concerned about that

yet.

With the bladder and frequent trips to the bathroom.. that too is a

common occurrence when hyper, but I don't remember mine as being

cloudy...

Can anyone comment on this? I do know that when hyper there is a lot of

calcium leaching.. Is it a possibility that the little particles are

calcium? Or is it more likely a sign of an infection?

How is your weight doing? Are you holding or dropping? Are you eating

good healthy food? It's really important when hyper to eat well... your

body is under a lot of stress and activity and uses up nutrients a lot

faster than normal so you can quickly become malnourished and that makes

recovery later much more difficult.

Keep us posted on your upcoming tests.... and please feel free to share

your lab results (and lab ranges)...

Topper ()

On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 17:50:36 -0000 " jules_4827 "

writes:

> Hi! I am waiting to have a scan done (in 3 weeks) due to nodules

> found during an ultrasound and the fact that I am showing hyper. I

> think it might be due to stress and tension with all of this, but I

> am

> having pain and swelling in my upper back, lower neck area. And

> also

> pain and swelling on the sides of my neck, almost on top of my

> shoulder area. Could the nodules be causing this or could it just

> be

> stress related? Also, is there any relation between thyroid

> problems

> and urinary or bladder problems? I have to urinate frequently and

> it

> is very cloudy with white particles floating. Sorry to be so

> detailed, but I am worried and would appreciate any comments.

> Thanks!!!

[Guest guest]

Thanks for responding!! I have all of the classic symptoms of hyper

EXCEPT for the weight loss. Pretty wild...but I have not lost weight

at all. And even though I am always hungry, I try to limit my intake.

Not that I want to unhealthily lose weight, but it is just weird to

me how that is the only symptom of hyper I don't have. I try to eat

healthy, but could probably improve. Thanks for you advice.

How do I get my lab results? Do I need to go get them or will they

give them to you over the phone?

> Hi Jules,

>

> When you are hyper your muscles often fire as a reaction to the high

> hormone levels, if you are stressed those same areas that tend to be

> tensed up from that also seem to be the same areas that get the most

> muscle twitching and poorest healing... It was actually tendonitis in my

> shoulders that got me back in the second time... it was that orthopedist

> that diagnosed me as hyper. So I wouldn't be too concerned about that

> yet.

>

> With the bladder and frequent trips to the bathroom.. that too is a

> common occurrence when hyper, but I don't remember mine as being

> cloudy...

>

> Can anyone comment on this? I do know that when hyper there is a lot of

> calcium leaching.. Is it a possibility that the little particles are

> calcium? Or is it more likely a sign of an infection?

>

> How is your weight doing? Are you holding or dropping? Are you eating

> good healthy food? It's really important when hyper to eat well... your

> body is under a lot of stress and activity and uses up nutrients a lot

> faster than normal so you can quickly become malnourished and that makes

> recovery later much more difficult.

>

> Keep us posted on your upcoming tests.... and please feel free to share

> your lab results (and lab ranges)...

>

> Topper ()

>

> On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 17:50:36 -0000 " jules_4827 " <jules_4827@y...>

> writes:

> > Hi! I am waiting to have a scan done (in 3 weeks) due to nodules

> > found during an ultrasound and the fact that I am showing hyper. I

> > think it might be due to stress and tension with all of this, but I

> > am

> > having pain and swelling in my upper back, lower neck area. And

> > also

> > pain and swelling on the sides of my neck, almost on top of my

> > shoulder area. Could the nodules be causing this or could it just

> > be

> > stress related? Also, is there any relation between thyroid

> > problems

> > and urinary or bladder problems? I have to urinate frequently and

> > it

> > is very cloudy with white particles floating. Sorry to be so

> > detailed, but I am worried and would appreciate any comments.

> > Thanks!!!

[Guest guest]

You can give them a call, they might... it's your right to have them..

but some of them want you to come in... some charge for copies... some

give you grief and say no.. the if you live in the US it's your legal

right to have them....

You need the lab results of your tests and the lab ranges.. it's usually

a number followed by a range...

TSH number (number - number)

Your value, followed by what ever the numbers that lab is using....

Some folks don't lose weight... I held steady for years... but then I

went into thyroid storm (when it goes nuts and starts pumping like crazy)

and I started melting away.... 40 pounds in 30 days... then I ate non

stop... and still lost over a pound a week.

Knowing what your labs are, gives a bit better idea what you are dealing

with and really come in handy when adjusting doses... but even if the

values are in range, it's your symptoms that are the most important...

there are folks that can have GREAT looking lab values, well within

range... and still feel like crap and need care to slow from the hyper

state or to medicate to get out of the hypo state.

Topper ()

On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 21:56:17 -0000 " jules_4827 "

writes:

> Thanks for responding!! I have all of the classic symptoms of hyper

> EXCEPT for the weight loss. Pretty wild...but I have not lost

> weight

> at all. And even though I am always hungry, I try to limit my

> intake.

> Not that I want to unhealthily lose weight, but it is just weird

> to

> me how that is the only symptom of hyper I don't have. I try to

> eat

> healthy, but could probably improve. Thanks for you advice.

>

> How do I get my lab results? Do I need to go get them or will they

> give them to you over the phone?

[Guest guest]

I am hypo and having terrible bladder problems,

particularly every time my thyroxine is increased. I

think it's just a symptom of your body's reaction to

the hormone changes!! It's awful i know but mine is

exactly the same - it got so bad 2 weeks ago i had to

take painkillers to take away the constant urge to go.

I've had urine tests done for infection but they are

all coming back negative. I'm seeing my specialist

doctor again this afternoon so i will ask him about

it!!

Keep smiling,

F

--- topper2@... wrote:

---------------------------------

Hi Jules,

When you are hyper your muscles often fire as a

reaction to the high

hormone levels, if you are stressed those same areas

that tend to be

tensed up from that also seem to be the same areas

that get the most

muscle twitching and poorest healing... It was

actually tendonitis in my

shoulders that got me back in the second time... it

was that orthopedist

that diagnosed me as hyper. So I wouldn't be too

concerned about that

yet.

With the bladder and frequent trips to the bathroom..

that too is a

common occurrence when hyper, but I don't remember

mine as being

cloudy...

Can anyone comment on this? I do know that when hyper

there is a lot of

calcium leaching.. Is it a possibility that the little

particles are

calcium? Or is it more likely a sign of an infection?

How is your weight doing? Are you holding or dropping?

Are you eating

good healthy food? It's really important when hyper to

eat well... your

body is under a lot of stress and activity and uses up

nutrients a lot

faster than normal so you can quickly become

malnourished and that makes

recovery later much more difficult.

Keep us posted on your upcoming tests.... and please

feel free to share

your lab results (and lab ranges)...

Topper ()

On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 17:50:36 -0000 " jules_4827 "

writes:

> Hi! I am waiting to have a scan done (in 3 weeks)

due to nodules

> found during an ultrasound and the fact that I am

showing hyper. I

> think it might be due to stress and tension with all

of this, but I

> am

> having pain and swelling in my upper back, lower

neck area. And

> also

> pain and swelling on the sides of my neck, almost on

top of my

> shoulder area. Could the nodules be causing this or

could it just

> be

> stress related? Also, is there any relation between

thyroid

> problems

> and urinary or bladder problems? I have to urinate

frequently and

> it

> is very cloudy with white particles floating. Sorry

to be so

> detailed, but I am worried and would appreciate any

comments.

> Thanks!!!

---------------------------------

[Guest guest]

,

I can't say that this is true... it's the attitude that I've chosen to

adopt when my bladder is 'urgent'.

A dosage increase gives the body a kick in the butt.. speeding up

processes in the system. The body gets a chance to do some house clearing

of built up stuff and it's all waste and not healthy for the body. So I

choose to believe that with all the extra house cleaning and all the

garbage being cleaned up that the bladder just wants that old junk OUT...

I try to increase my water intake to dilute the stuff and it seems that I

can go longer between runs down the hall and when I do go I have a fuller

bladder.... Other wise I used to refer to it as my 'three drop donation'

I was going ALL the time and there was hardly anything there.

After I settle down with the new dose I'm okay again.

As I said... I don't know if my idea is correct but it's helped me to

deal with it....

I would like to add that the sphincter muscle that holds the flow from

the bladder is still a weak muscle, for me, just as all my other muscles

are weaker from being undermedicated for so long.. but it's getting

stronger... But, still, When I have the urge to go I don't have a whole

lot of time to decide what I want to do about it. I don't have the

option, as I did YEARS ago, of waiting half an hour until I get home. Ten

or fifteen minutes I can handle.. but not much more.

Topper ()

On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 10:11:04 +0100 (BST) =?iso-8859-1?q?B=20B?=

writes:

> I am hypo and having terrible bladder problems,

> particularly every time my thyroxine is increased. I

> think it's just a symptom of your body's reaction to

> the hormone changes!! It's awful i know but mine is

> exactly the same - it got so bad 2 weeks ago i had to

> take painkillers to take away the constant urge to go.

> I've had urine tests done for infection but they are

> all coming back negative. I'm seeing my specialist

> doctor again this afternoon so i will ask him about

> it!!

> Keep smiling,

> F

[Guest guest]

Hiya,

I like that rationale also. And i can believe in it!!

Whatever it's awful and, grin, like you i have the

'three drop donation' syndrome also. For me, at the

moment it's just a CONSTANT urge. It's like my bladder

is full all the time. It started for me just before

taking the T4 though. So i think my bladder was

already having problems dealing with stuff. Now i'm on

T4 (and it'll probably be increased again this

afternoon after seeing the endo) then it's got much

worser. What keeps me going is the thought that this

will all go away when i have my hypothyroidism totally

under control. Here's hoping!! xx

--- topper2@... wrote:

---------------------------------

,

I can't say that this is true... it's the attitude

that I've chosen to

adopt when my bladder is 'urgent'.

A dosage increase gives the body a kick in the butt..

speeding up

processes in the system. The body gets a chance to do

some house clearing

of built up stuff and it's all waste and not healthy

for the body. So I

choose to believe that with all the extra house

cleaning and all the

garbage being cleaned up that the bladder just wants

that old junk OUT...

I try to increase my water intake to dilute the stuff

and it seems that I

can go longer between runs down the hall and when I do

go I have a fuller

bladder.... Other wise I used to refer to it as my

'three drop donation'

I was going ALL the time and there was hardly anything

there.

After I settle down with the new dose I'm okay again.

As I said... I don't know if my idea is correct but

it's helped me to

deal with it....

I would like to add that the sphincter muscle that

holds the flow from

the bladder is still a weak muscle, for me, just as

all my other muscles

are weaker from being undermedicated for so long.. but

it's getting

stronger... But, still, When I have the urge to go I

don't have a whole

lot of time to decide what I want to do about it. I

don't have the

option, as I did YEARS ago, of waiting half an hour

until I get home. Ten

or fifteen minutes I can handle.. but not much more.

Topper ()

On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 10:11:04 +0100 (BST)

=?iso-8859-1?q?B=20B?=

writes:

> I am hypo and having terrible bladder problems,

> particularly every time my thyroxine is increased. I

> think it's just a symptom of your body's reaction to

> the hormone changes!! It's awful i know but mine is

> exactly the same - it got so bad 2 weeks ago i had

to

> take painkillers to take away the constant urge to

go.

> I've had urine tests done for infection but they are

> all coming back negative. I'm seeing my specialist

> doctor again this afternoon so i will ask him about

> it!!

> Keep smiling,

> F

[Guest guest]

The CONSTANT urge, rather than just the " little and often " syndrome sounds

more like a UTI to me. Do you drink cranberry juice and lots of water?

Cranberry juice acidifies the urine and cranberries have some sort of

natural ingredient in them that helps to sterilize the urininary tract and

help break up stones (barring they're not too large). I've had a kidney

stone, and the pain in the side is the cardinal feature of them, but I would

suppose that a very small stone could make it into the bladder and be hard

to expel, from that point on. Never thought about that one.

Tx

Re: Hyperthyroid w/nodules...having

problems

>

> Hiya,

>

> I like that rationale also. And i can believe in it!!

> Whatever it's awful and, grin, like you i have the

> 'three drop donation' syndrome also. For me, at the

> moment it's just a CONSTANT urge. It's like my bladder

> is full all the time. It started for me just before

> taking the T4 though. So i think my bladder was

> already having problems dealing with stuff. Now i'm on

> T4 (and it'll probably be increased again this

> afternoon after seeing the endo) then it's got much

> worser. What keeps me going is the thought that this

> will all go away when i have my hypothyroidism totally

> under control. Here's hoping!! xx

[Guest guest]

I've been tested for a UTI but the test was negative

and normal. I'm not sure about kidney stones. As i

said i'm seeing my specialist this afternoon so i'll

see what he has to say about it!!

--- wrote:

---------------------------------

The CONSTANT urge, rather than just the " little and

often " syndrome sounds

more like a UTI to me. Do you drink cranberry juice

and lots of water?

Cranberry juice acidifies the urine and cranberries

have some sort of

natural ingredient in them that helps to sterilize the

urininary tract and

help break up stones (barring they're not too large).

I've had a kidney

stone, and the pain in the side is the cardinal

feature of them, but I would

suppose that a very small stone could make it into the

bladder and be hard

to expel, from that point on. Never thought about

that one.

Tx

Re: Hyperthyroid

w/nodules...having

problems

>

> Hiya,

>

> I like that rationale also. And i can believe in

it!!

> Whatever it's awful and, grin, like you i have the

> 'three drop donation' syndrome also. For me, at the

> moment it's just a CONSTANT urge. It's like my

bladder

> is full all the time. It started for me just before

> taking the T4 though. So i think my bladder was

> already having problems dealing with stuff. Now i'm

on

> T4 (and it'll probably be increased again this

> afternoon after seeing the endo) then it's got much

> worser. What keeps me going is the thought that this

> will all go away when i have my hypothyroidism

totally

> under control. Here's hoping!! xx

[Guest guest]

Please let us know. This had never occurred to me with my problem either.

Tx

Re: Hyperthyroid w/nodules...having

problems

> I've been tested for a UTI but the test was negative

> and normal. I'm not sure about kidney stones. As i

> said i'm seeing my specialist this afternoon so i'll

> see what he has to say about it!!