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Hi all, My name is Lacey, my husband and I have a 10 month old son,

Luke (lucas) with Charge He was diagnosed at 2 months old at

Stanford Childrens hospital in CA. I have so many questions I dont

know where to begin. My current issues are :

1) Getting him to eat more (he has a g-tube) and drink liquids.

2) Any experience people have with common dental problems (luke

seems to perhaps have a cavity in one or more baby teeth)

3) Any experience people have with a Charge baby who " arches " or

extends backwards very frequently (although he is crawling).

Thanks - any advice is appreciated!

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Lacey:

I am very interested in the dental aspects also at this point. is

having to have her baby teeth pulled when her permanent ones come in - they

won't fall out on their own. Also, she has to have cleanings every three

months because her enamel is evidently soft. She hasn't had any cavities to

be filled (knock on wood!), but we have to assist with her brushing or it

could easily get away from us and she would then need fillings.

One thing I have found out is that growth hormone deficiency can result in

poor tooth development, soft enamel, and jaw problems (since growth hormone

effects bone and your jaw is, after all, a bone). is growth hormone

deficient and receives replacement therapy for that. I've been doing a bit

more study on this since having to do more frequent cleanings, and also

having to get 6 teeth pulled in the last year! Our dental insurance only

covers 2 cleanings per year, and maybe it could be covered under medical if

we can prove it is related to a health/medical issue, not just a " typical "

dental issue.

As I find out more relating to this I will post to the list.

Welcome to CHARGEland!

Friends in CHARGE,

Marilyn Ogan

Mom of Ken (13) and (10, CHARGE+)

Wife of Rick

I am new !

Hi all, My name is Lacey, my husband and I have a 10 month old son,

Luke (lucas) with Charge He was diagnosed at 2 months old at

Stanford Childrens hospital in CA. I have so many questions I dont

know where to begin. My current issues are :

1) Getting him to eat more (he has a g-tube) and drink liquids.

2) Any experience people have with common dental problems (luke

seems to perhaps have a cavity in one or more baby teeth)

3) Any experience people have with a Charge baby who " arches " or

extends backwards very frequently (although he is crawling).

Thanks - any advice is appreciated!

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Hi Lacey,

Welcome to the group! We have an 8 month old little guy that was born

premature. He also drinks liquids orally and has a g-tube but won't eat

enough. We are trying to get a swallow study done soon to see if there is a

physical reason that he just stops at about 2 or 3 ounces. We usually end up

giving him at least a couple ounces through the tube after he tries to eat.

His record orally is 4 ounces and that was some time ago. I will report any

findings that we have on that matter. He does get very frustrated about it,

though.

Our son, , goes to therapy to work on muscle tone and movements, etc.

Our occupational therapist says that that arching is common in premies (it

seems very common among charge kids) and is an important thing to try to

counter-balance. She and others agree that this is the wong type of

development for him to have. He should be focussed on his stomach and front

side so he can sit up. is rolling over and trying really hard to crawl

right now, but when he's in a position he doesn't want to be in, he

immediately arches and squirms away. I think those muscles are stronger and

easier to use. They sit him up and have him play with toys and look around

and don't let him arch away. They don't push it, but they are tough on him.

has never liked sitting as it causes problems with his breathing (not

sure why, possibly the TEF repair he had.) I make sure to hold him in the

forward " C " position when i'm feeding him now and I try not to let him arch

out of it.

If you have any more questions, feel free to ask. We're not experts by any

means as is still young and we are following the listserver very

closely.

Bo - dad to sean, 8 mo's, 14 1/2 lbs.

I am new !

Hi all, My name is Lacey, my husband and I have a 10 month old son,

Luke (lucas) with Charge He was diagnosed at 2 months old at

Stanford Childrens hospital in CA. I have so many questions I dont

know where to begin. My current issues are :

1) Getting him to eat more (he has a g-tube) and drink liquids.

2) Any experience people have with common dental problems (luke

seems to perhaps have a cavity in one or more baby teeth)

3) Any experience people have with a Charge baby who " arches " or

extends backwards very frequently (although he is crawling).

Thanks - any advice is appreciated!

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also had 7 teeth pulled because of crowding. Then he had a retainer

bolted to his 2 back teeth to keep the front teeth from becoming too

prominent. Now he is just getting a regular retainer as he is not mature

enough to have braces yet and take good enough care of his dental hygiene.

" They " also seem to get excessive plaque etc.

Welcome to the list, we are here for you! :-) Barbra M

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Dylan's top and bottom middle teeth have fallen out in the last 6 months.

Permanent ones are coming in on the bottom, but there is no sign of teeth

coming in on the top. I am looking forward to the dental appt the end of

this month. Sometimes I wonder if the teeth are even there. The first one

came out in Nov. That just seems a long time to have no sign of a tooth

coming in.

Kim

> Lacey:

> I am very interested in the dental aspects also at this point. is

> having to have her baby teeth pulled when her permanent ones come in - they

> won't fall out on their own. Also, she has to have cleanings every three

> months because her enamel is evidently soft. She hasn't had any cavities to

> be filled (knock on wood!), but we have to assist with her brushing or it

> could easily get away from us and she would then need fillings.

> One thing I have found out is that growth hormone deficiency can result in

> poor tooth development, soft enamel, and jaw problems (since growth hormone

> effects bone and your jaw is, after all, a bone). is growth hormone

> deficient and receives replacement therapy for that. I've been doing a bit

> more study on this since having to do more frequent cleanings, and also

> having to get 6 teeth pulled in the last year! Our dental insurance only

> covers 2 cleanings per year, and maybe it could be covered under medical if

> we can prove it is related to a health/medical issue, not just a " typical "

> dental issue.

> As I find out more relating to this I will post to the list.

> Welcome to CHARGEland!

>

> Friends in CHARGE,

> Marilyn Ogan

> Mom of Ken (13) and (10, CHARGE+)

> Wife of Rick

>

> I am new !

>

>

> Hi all, My name is Lacey, my husband and I have a 10 month old son,

> Luke (lucas) with Charge He was diagnosed at 2 months old at

> Stanford Childrens hospital in CA. I have so many questions I dont

> know where to begin. My current issues are :

> 1) Getting him to eat more (he has a g-tube) and drink liquids.

> 2) Any experience people have with common dental problems (luke

> seems to perhaps have a cavity in one or more baby teeth)

> 3) Any experience people have with a Charge baby who " arches " or

> extends backwards very frequently (although he is crawling).

>

> Thanks - any advice is appreciated!

>

>

>

> Membership of this email support groups does not constitute membership in the

> CHARGE Syndrome Foundation.

> For information about the CHARGE Syndrome

> Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter)

> please contact marion@... or visit

> the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation web page

> at http://www.chargesyndrome.org

> 6th International CHARGE Syndrome Conference, Cleveland, Ohio,

> July 25-27, 2003. Information will be available at our website

> www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-.

>

>

>

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kim-

Has Dylan had any dental xrays? Aubrie has (I can't remember why) and we know

that she has a microtooth that will have to be pulled when it comes in and she

is missing one permanent tooth. They are both upper teeth but I can't remember

which ones they are -- maybe the incisor (one either side of your 4 front

teeth?)?

Michele W

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Dylan's top and bottom middle teeth have fallen out in the last 6 months.

Permanent ones are coming in on the bottom, but there is no sign of teeth

coming in on the top. I am looking forward to the dental appt the end of

this month. Sometimes I wonder if the teeth are even there. The first one

came out in Nov. That just seems a long time to have no sign of a tooth

coming in.

Kim

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Lacey-

My daugher, Aubrie, is 5 years old. She had a Gtube placed at 3 months (NGtube

before that) and it was removed before 2 yrs of age. If Luke is able to drink,

that is so encouraging!! In our experience, persistance paid off. It was

incredibly frustrating along the way. Progress was so so sl-o-w. But finally

she ate enough to be weaned. You will need a good feeding therapist to help

you. Ask specific questions of the group as you go.

Aubrie does not have problems with cavities so I'm not much help there.

Aubrie did arch terribly as an infant. She would sleep in an arched position

sometimes! 's post brought back some memories. We think Aubrie's arching

was due to unbalanced muscle tone. She hated being on her tummy and had a hard

time sitting. We worked and worked at it. I think she also arched due to

reflux discomfort. I can't remember details of therapy, but a good PT can help

you with it. OT too -- it seemed like they overlapped quite a bit in those

early years. Sensory issues were huge. Both the OT and PT were working on

sensory and positioning issues if I remember right.

Welcome to the list! I have found answers to my questions and invaluable

support here. I hope our " CHARGE family " can do the same for you!

Michele W

mom to Aubrie (5 yrs) CHaRgE and (11 yrs)

I am new !

Hi all, My name is Lacey, my husband and I have a 10 month old son,

Luke (lucas) with Charge He was diagnosed at 2 months old at

Stanford Childrens hospital in CA. I have so many questions I dont

know where to begin. My current issues are :

1) Getting him to eat more (he has a g-tube) and drink liquids.

2) Any experience people have with common dental problems (luke

seems to perhaps have a cavity in one or more baby teeth)

3) Any experience people have with a Charge baby who " arches " or

extends backwards very frequently (although he is crawling).

Thanks - any advice is appreciated!

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I predict the dentist will want to do x-rays at the appt the end of this

month. He hasn't had any yet. Kim

> kim-

> Has Dylan had any dental xrays? Aubrie has (I can't remember why) and we know

> that she has a microtooth that will have to be pulled when it comes in and she

> is missing one permanent tooth. They are both upper teeth but I can't

> remember which ones they are -- maybe the incisor (one either side of your 4

> front teeth?)?

>

> Michele W

>

> Re: I am new !

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>

> Dylan's top and bottom middle teeth have fallen out in the last 6 months.

> Permanent ones are coming in on the bottom, but there is no sign of teeth

> coming in on the top. I am looking forward to the dental appt the end of

> this month. Sometimes I wonder if the teeth are even there. The first one

> came out in Nov. That just seems a long time to have no sign of a tooth

> coming in.

>

> Kim

>

>

>

>

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Lacey,

WELCOME to the list and congratulations on the birth of your son.

I'm going to say YES to number 3! My daughter was ALWAYS arching backwards, I

think this can be common. She also backscooted a lot. One thing the

physiotherapist told us was to get rid of the " exersaucer " she was using a lot

at the time. I don't know if you're using one, but it encourage her backward

arching and the PT said we wanted her leaning forward, not backward. She got a

" pony walker " which helped her with that and her walking as well. It may be

something to ask Luke's PT about.

~ Weir

Mom to Kennedy, 5yr old CHARGEr, 13, 11, and wife to Graeme

Saint , New Brunswick, Canada

Visit the Weir Family Website - http://personal.nbnet.nb.ca/gweir

CHARGE Syndrome Canada - http://www.chargesyndrome.ca

I am new !

Hi all, My name is Lacey, my husband and I have a 10 month old son,

Luke (lucas) with Charge He was diagnosed at 2 months old at

Stanford Childrens hospital in CA. I have so many questions I dont

know where to begin. My current issues are :

1) Getting him to eat more (he has a g-tube) and drink liquids.

2) Any experience people have with common dental problems (luke

seems to perhaps have a cavity in one or more baby teeth)

3) Any experience people have with a Charge baby who " arches " or

extends backwards very frequently (although he is crawling).

Thanks - any advice is appreciated!

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Welcome to the list Lacy and Luke

Kay Adult charger

She who laughs.... LASTS

I am new !

Hi all, My name is Lacey, my husband and I have a 10 month old son,

Luke (lucas) with Charge He was diagnosed at 2 months old at

Stanford Childrens hospital in CA. I have so many questions I dont

know where to begin. My current issues are :

1) Getting him to eat more (he has a g-tube) and drink liquids.

2) Any experience people have with common dental problems (luke

seems to perhaps have a cavity in one or more baby teeth)

3) Any experience people have with a Charge baby who " arches " or

extends backwards very frequently (although he is crawling).

Thanks - any advice is appreciated!

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Hi Lacey,

Well I hope all is going well for you and lucas. The feeding issue I

am afraid to tell you it is going to be an ongoin battle because a lot of

our little angels have that problem. My daughter Eileen is 34 months and

does not take anything by mouth and it is a slow process on increasing her

g-tube feedings. Dental problems are big time. Eileen will have to have a

lot of work on her mouth when she is about 7 years old and we cannot tell if

she has any cavities because she will not open her mouth for anyone. Eileen

did arch her back a lot and she ended up crawling with her back arched and

we did a lot of therapy to correct that. I hope all goes well with you and

your family and if you need anything let us know.

Valentine, mom, Marissa 12 years, Christian 6 years, Eileen 34 months

CHARGE

Sacramento, CA

I am new !

> Hi all, My name is Lacey, my husband and I have a 10 month old son,

> Luke (lucas) with Charge He was diagnosed at 2 months old at

> Stanford Childrens hospital in CA. I have so many questions I dont

> know where to begin. My current issues are :

> 1) Getting him to eat more (he has a g-tube) and drink liquids.

> 2) Any experience people have with common dental problems (luke

> seems to perhaps have a cavity in one or more baby teeth)

> 3) Any experience people have with a Charge baby who " arches " or

> extends backwards very frequently (although he is crawling).

>

> Thanks - any advice is appreciated!

>

>

>

> Membership of this email support groups does not constitute membership in

the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation.

> For information about the CHARGE Syndrome

> Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter)

> please contact marion@... or visit

> the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation web page

> at http://www.chargesyndrome.org

> 6th International CHARGE Syndrome Conference, Cleveland, Ohio,

> July 25-27, 2003. Information will be available at our website

> www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-.

>

>

>

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