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Nan,

I try to follow Dr. Kolb's diet, but I was like you and didn't understand. www.plastikos.com I have had people help me with this and they tried to make it simple for me to understand.

They said, eat nothing white, so no potato's, no pasta, no dairy, etc. I find myself starving these days, so I do eat salmon, chicken, salad, vegetables (soaked in lemon juice and salt water first to kill pesticides) I do not drink fruit juice, but I bought a juicer from walmart $30.00, cheapest one, it works great. Not daily but sometimes I will juice one orange, one pear and one banana, get cold then drink. I know we are not suppose to eat citrus fruits. But I want the vitamin C, so diluted with pear and banana. This is not daily. Sometimes!!!!! I know if you drink store bought juice full of sugar. I also juice carrots and celery.

I plan to order the "Maker's Diet" Apple a Day and Beyond to find more stuff to eat. I drink lots of water. When I crave sugar I run for fresh veggies. (sometimes snap and eat fruity pebbles, then pay dearly next day or for a week)

I am still working on my diet and did create a recipe on my own for chicken..........

I boil my chicken until very tender

Then take a skillet put small amount of olive oil (virgin)

Then put two cloves of garlic

Some lemon pepper

Brown on each side and it is so yummy ( Don't even know if I am allowed to eat this it just taste so good and totally delicious)

I am sorry I can't help you more but truthfully I am still learning. I just don't eat sugar and I have stevia that I substitute for sugar, yet scared sometimes to use that.

Maker's Diet the book was like $13.00 and Rogene said if you call in to order extra 10% off.

Good Luck to You!!!!!! I would love it if someone would make a list of stuff we can eat, for us starving kids in new guinea. Hold us off until we can afford this book.......

God Bless

~

[Guest guest]

Rogene,

Thanks for this post. I have access to all the free organic eggs I want feed with grains and grass so best eggs to eat. I was told NO EGGS. Thanks for EGGS.... I wish I had list of does I can figure out the don't eats, but the do eats is still hard. I was eating the tuna packets, not the cans they have packets. Then I seen a post that took my Tuna so went back and bought the salmon packets, this has lots of omega 3 oils, I need so desperate for dry skin. I like the post for our diet this helps so much. Thanks Again.

~

[Guest guest]

-Thanks ! so it sounds like your family still eats regular junk

and you don't? What diet are you on, I think this is going to be

important for me, I have to quit eating all this junk. I have

already given up most sugar but still eat a lot of processed food,

really don't know what else to eat! Love Nan

-- In , toxicsalines@... wrote:

>

> Nan,

>

> This sound so familiar and I still deal with these issues. Guy

sitting

> around eating cakes and junk late a night in front of Me was so

hard. I finally

> realized if I eat this cake or cookie, I will pay tomorrow. I have

to say I did

> not feel better until I stuck to the diet. I craved sugar so bad I

would

> sneak and eat it, could not resist, or hold myself back. Did I

ever pay for

> doing the sneaking, it made me so way worse. Know when I get a

craving for sugar

> I make my mind think, you will pay for this, do you want to feel

those joints

> burning over the sugar. It took me a long time and I still snap

from time to

> time. Truly once you get used to this diet, the thought of eating

nasty food

> will churn your stomach.

> I still get made fun of by my family, about how I eat, my

supplements, etc.

> I just laugh at them and say well my diet and my supplements help

me, maybe

> you don't need but I do. I pray someday our Lord don't came down

and give you

> a sickness like I have where you are forced to eat like I have to.

Then I

> will say please if nothing good to say, don't say nothing at all, I

will not

> tolerate unneeded stress. This always seems to work since our

loved ones need

> reminded they are not babies and they are not sick. It seems they

are jealous

> of our being sick or something and it does take a toll on them

since we can't

> do all the task they are so used to us doing. I wonder sometimes

if they don't

> say these things out of jealousy since I am not cooking and making

them fresh

> cookies and cakes serving it on a silver platter to them since

becoming sick.

>

> As far as Dr. Kolb's protocol and confused, so many say this.

Understand

> that by no means do you need all these supplements, in fact I do

know of the top

> four she recommends off the list. Each person's protocol is

different but

> there is a top four she will say well if you don't have the money

for the 7

> supplements I recommend, then these are the main ones to take.

There is no way

> anyone could take all of the supplements on the list. If you read

next to them

> it will say what the supplement is for. Basically we all need anti-

fungal,

> primal defense, liver detox and something for joints and bones

usually being

> calcium/magnesium. I hope this helps you and remember you are not

alone in this

> mess. Our stories are so different yet the same. Hang in there

and good luck

> to you. God Bless

>

> ~

>

[Guest guest]

Nan,

Cooking from scratch isn't hard at all ... I laughed last week when I gave our left-over salad fixings to one of our friends . . she said she wasn't sure if knew how to cook them . . . All she needed to do was to chop the veggies. They eat out all the time . . . and take their medications to make up for it.

Just walk through the produce and meat departments of the grocery store and find some things you like . . . You might be able to find ground Bison in WalMart's meat department. Use it as you would hamburger. You can cook them with a little oil (coconut oil is good), until done and eat. . Simple!

Eat as many salads as you can . . . . lightly steam the veggies you won't eat raw. (A double boiler helps here. . .put some water in the bottom, veggies on top to steam) . . .

There are some good whole grain cereals and breads - and eat a lot of eggs! . . . go for the natural ones though. Buy Butter instead of margarine . . . sea salt instead of table salt . . . Once you have fungal organisms under control, you can sweeten a little with a little honey or real maple syrup.

Rubin's "The Maker's Diet" has a lot of good ideas and some recipes. He carries it to an extreme that would be hard to manage . . . but use it as a guideline to get started. . . Once you feel better, you'll feel motivated to go further.

Rogene

Re: hi guys, just got back from out of town and unfortuna...

-Thanks ! so it sounds like your family still eats regular junk and you don't? What diet are you on, I think this is going to be important for me, I have to quit eating all this junk. I have already given up most sugar but still eat a lot of processed food, really don't know what else to eat! Love Nan-- In , toxicsalines@ ... wrote:>> Nan,> > This sound so familiar and I still deal with these issues. Guy sitting > around eating cakes and junk late a night in front of Me was so hard. I finally > realized if I eat this cake or cookie, I will pay tomorrow. I have to say I did > not feel better until I stuck to the diet. I craved sugar so bad I would > sneak and eat it, could not resist, or hold myself back. Did I ever pay for > doing the sneaking, it made

me so way worse. Know when I get a craving for sugar > I make my mind think, you will pay for this, do you want to feel those joints > burning over the sugar. It took me a long time and I still snap from time to > time. Truly once you get used to this diet, the thought of eating nasty food > will churn your stomach. > I still get made fun of by my family, about how I eat, my supplements, etc. > I just laugh at them and say well my diet and my supplements help me, maybe > you don't need but I do. I pray someday our Lord don't came down and give you > a sickness like I have where you are forced to eat like I have to. Then I > will say please if nothing good to say, don't say nothing at all, I will not > tolerate unneeded stress. This always seems to work since our loved ones need > reminded they are not babies and they are not sick. It seems they are

jealous > of our being sick or something and it does take a toll on them since we can't > do all the task they are so used to us doing. I wonder sometimes if they don't > say these things out of jealousy since I am not cooking and making them fresh > cookies and cakes serving it on a silver platter to them since becoming sick. > > As far as Dr. Kolb's protocol and confused, so many say this. Understand > that by no means do you need all these supplements, in fact I do know of the top > four she recommends off the list. Each person's protocol is different but > there is a top four she will say well if you don't have the money for the 7 > supplements I recommend, then these are the main ones to take. There is no way > anyone could take all of the supplements on the list. If you read next to them > it will say what the supplement is for. Basically we all

need anti-fungal, > primal defense, liver detox and something for joints and bones usually being > calcium/magnesium. I hope this helps you and remember you are not alone in this > mess. Our stories are so different yet the same. Hang in there and good luck > to you. God Bless> > ~>

[Guest guest]

-Yep, Sounds so familiar!!!! All of it they want us to keep making

them the stuff I keep telling them if it is around I will want it. I

can;t even have it in the house and sugar is poision for you too and

you don't need it!! I am the mean mom I guess

Terri P

-- In , toxicsalines@... wrote:

>

> Nan,

>

> This sound so familiar and I still deal with these issues. Guy

sitting

> around eating cakes and junk late a night in front of Me was so

hard. I finally

> realized if I eat this cake or cookie, I will pay tomorrow. I have

to say I did

> not feel better until I stuck to the diet. I craved sugar so bad I

would

> sneak and eat it, could not resist, or hold myself back. Did I

ever pay for

> doing the sneaking, it made me so way worse. Know when I get a

craving for sugar

> I make my mind think, you will pay for this, do you want to feel

those joints

> burning over the sugar. It took me a long time and I still snap

from time to

> time. Truly once you get used to this diet, the thought of eating

nasty food

> will churn your stomach.

> I still get made fun of by my family, about how I eat, my

supplements, etc.

> I just laugh at them and say well my diet and my supplements help

me, maybe

> you don't need but I do. I pray someday our Lord don't came down

and give you

> a sickness like I have where you are forced to eat like I have to.

Then I

> will say please if nothing good to say, don't say nothing at all, I

will not

> tolerate unneeded stress. This always seems to work since our

loved ones need

> reminded they are not babies and they are not sick. It seems they

are jealous

> of our being sick or something and it does take a toll on them

since we can't

> do all the task they are so used to us doing. I wonder sometimes

if they don't

> say these things out of jealousy since I am not cooking and making

them fresh

> cookies and cakes serving it on a silver platter to them since

becoming sick.

>

> As far as Dr. Kolb's protocol and confused, so many say this.

Understand

> that by no means do you need all these supplements, in fact I do

know of the top

> four she recommends off the list. Each person's protocol is

different but

> there is a top four she will say well if you don't have the money

for the 7

> supplements I recommend, then these are the main ones to take.

There is no way

> anyone could take all of the supplements on the list. If you read

next to them

> it will say what the supplement is for. Basically we all need anti-

fungal,

> primal defense, liver detox and something for joints and bones

usually being

> calcium/magnesium. I hope this helps you and remember you are not

alone in this

> mess. Our stories are so different yet the same. Hang in there

and good luck

> to you. God Bless

>

> ~

>

[Guest guest]

Eggs got a bad rap for some time because of they are high in cholestrol . . . but according to Rubin, they're healthy food if they're not full of hormones and antibiotics.

A friend whose family has a chicken farm (raises eggs to be hatched into egg laying hens) tells me that she would never eat one of their own chickens or eggs - after seeing what they are fed.

Rogene

Re: Re: hi guys, just got back from out of town and unfortuna...

Rogene,

Thanks for this post. I have access to all the free organic eggs I want feed with grains and grass so best eggs to eat. I was told NO EGGS. Thanks for EGGS.... I wish I had list of does I can figure out the don't eats, but the do eats is still hard. I was eating the tuna packets, not the cans they have packets. Then I seen a post that took my Tuna so went back and bought the salmon packets, this has lots of omega 3 oils, I need so desperate for dry skin. I like the post for our diet this helps so much. Thanks Again.

~

[Guest guest]

-Bindi, I am going to try that!

-- In , " freebindi " <bindi@...> wrote:

>

> We eat a lot of brown rice pasta. Believe it or not, it's just as

good as regular pasta, and MUCH better in texture than whole wheat

pasta, which my family refuses to eat-- they say it tastes like it's

made out of cardboard. Trader Joe's has it, and whole foods.

> Bindi

> Re: Re: hi guys, just got back from out

of town and unfortuna...

>

>

>

> We have a recipe section in the archives . . . I'd like to see

it grow!

>

> The chicken sounds delicious! . . . I think it's important to

ease into healthy eating by finding things we enjoy as we give up

the bad stuff. Otherwise we're not going to make it a life change. .

And it has to be a life change! It doesn't take much abuse of my

diet for my whole body to complain.

>

> I don't feel that we eat any different. We don't go strictly by

the rules. But when I compare my shopping cart to those I see around

me, or what we eat compared to others when we're with other people,

I can see that we've come a long way towards a healthier diet.

>

> Even my hubby is selecting whole grain breads and cereals

now. . . I have to keep reading labels to him though. . . It's

grossing him out on some of his favorite junk foods!

>

> And, after you get fungal issues under control, you can enjoy an

occasional potato too! . . BTW, they're making some whole grain

pastas now! . . .

>

> Cauliflower is white, but A-OK!

>

> Rogene

>

>

>

>

>

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,

Can I ask you what all your kinesioligist does?

~

[Guest guest]

Wow, really? I hope that's not true! I'd DIE without popcorn. Just kidding, but I'll definitely be sad without it. I wonder if it has to do with the hard little husks. They are a hassle when they get stuck in your teeth.

Hopefully this popcorn scare is just an urban legend!

Bindi

Re: hi guys, just got back from out of town and unfortuna...

-Yep, Sounds so familiar!!!! All of it they want us to keep making them the stuff I keep telling them if it is around I will want it. I can;t even have it in the house and sugar is poision for you too and you don't need it!! I am the mean mom I guessTerri P-- In , toxicsalines@... wrote:>> Nan,> > This sound so familiar and I still deal with these issues. Guy sitting > around eating cakes and junk late a night in front of Me was so hard. I finally > realized if I eat this cake or cookie, I will pay tomorrow. I have to say I did > not feel better until I stuck to the diet. I craved sugar so bad I would > sneak and eat it, could not resist, or hold myself back. Did I ever pay for > doing the sneaking, it made me so way worse. Know when I get a craving for sugar > I make my mind think, you will pay for this, do you want to feel those joints > burning over the sugar. It took me a long time and I still snap from time to > time. Truly once you get used to this diet, the thought of eating nasty food > will churn your stomach. > I still get made fun of by my family, about how I eat, my supplements, etc. > I just laugh at them and say well my diet and my supplements help me, maybe > you don't need but I do. I pray someday our Lord don't came down and give you > a sickness like I have where you are forced to eat like I have to. Then I > will say please if nothing good to say, don't say nothing at all, I will not > tolerate unneeded stress. This always seems to work since our loved ones need > reminded they are not babies and they are not sick. It seems they are jealous > of our being sick or something and it does take a toll on them since we can't > do all the task they are so used to us doing. I wonder sometimes if they don't > say these things out of jealousy since I am not cooking and making them fresh > cookies and cakes serving it on a silver platter to them since becoming sick. > > As far as Dr. Kolb's protocol and confused, so many say this. Understand > that by no means do you need all these supplements, in fact I do know of the top > four she recommends off the list. Each person's protocol is different but > there is a top four she will say well if you don't have the money for the 7 > supplements I recommend, then these are the main ones to take. There is no way > anyone could take all of the supplements on the list. If you read next to them > it will say what the supplement is for. Basically we all need anti-fungal, > primal defense, liver detox and something for joints and bones usually being > calcium/magnesium. I hope this helps you and remember you are not alone in this > mess. Our stories are so different yet the same. Hang in there and good luck > to you. God Bless> > ~>

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The only thing I have been able to find about popcorn is that if you have diverticulitis, you should make sure to chew the kernels really well, even though there is not any proven evidence of danger. Haven't found much beyond that~

Bindi

Re: hi guys, just got back from out of town and unfortuna...

-Yep, Sounds so familiar!!!! All of it they want us to keep making them the stuff I keep telling them if it is around I will want it. I can;t even have it in the house and sugar is poision for you too and you don't need it!! I am the mean mom I guessTerri P-- In , toxicsalines@... wrote:>> Nan,> > This sound so familiar and I still deal with these issues. Guy sitting > around eating cakes and junk late a night in front of Me was so hard. I finally > realized if I eat this cake or cookie, I will pay tomorrow. I have to say I did > not feel better until I stuck to the diet. I craved sugar so bad I would > sneak and eat it, could not resist, or hold myself back. Did I ever pay for > doing the sneaking, it made me so way worse. Know when I get a craving for sugar > I make my mind think, you will pay for this, do you want to feel those joints > burning over the sugar. It took me a long time and I still snap from time to > time. Truly once you get used to this diet, the thought of eating nasty food > will churn your stomach. > I still get made fun of by my family, about how I eat, my supplements, etc. > I just laugh at them and say well my diet and my supplements help me, maybe > you don't need but I do. I pray someday our Lord don't came down and give you > a sickness like I have where you are forced to eat like I have to. Then I > will say please if nothing good to say, don't say nothing at all, I will not > tolerate unneeded stress. This always seems to work since our loved ones need > reminded they are not babies and they are not sick. It seems they are jealous > of our being sick or something and it does take a toll on them since we can't > do all the task they are so used to us doing. I wonder sometimes if they don't > say these things out of jealousy since I am not cooking and making them fresh > cookies and cakes serving it on a silver platter to them since becoming sick. > > As far as Dr. Kolb's protocol and confused, so many say this. Understand > that by no means do you need all these supplements, in fact I do know of the top > four she recommends off the list. Each person's protocol is different but > there is a top four she will say well if you don't have the money for the 7 > supplements I recommend, then these are the main ones to take. There is no way > anyone could take all of the supplements on the list. If you read next to them > it will say what the supplement is for. Basically we all need anti-fungal, > primal defense, liver detox and something for joints and bones usually being > calcium/magnesium. I hope this helps you and remember you are not alone in this > mess. Our stories are so different yet the same. Hang in there and good luck > to you. God Bless> > ~>

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I don't know anything about problems with pop corn . . .Have you tried a websearch to see what's being said?

I enjoy having a half an apple for a snack. Popcorn usually doesn't interest me.

Rogene

Re: hi guys, just got back from out of town and unfortuna...

-Yep, Sounds so familiar!!!! All of it they want us to keep making them the stuff I keep telling them if it is around I will want it. I can;t even have it in the house and sugar is poision for you too and you don't need it!! I am the mean mom I guessTerri P-- In , toxicsalines@ ... wrote:>> Nan,> > This sound so familiar and I still deal with these issues. Guy sitting > around eating cakes and junk late a night in front of Me was so hard. I finally > realized if I eat this cake or cookie, I will pay tomorrow. I have to say I did > not feel better until I stuck to the diet. I craved sugar so bad I would > sneak and eat it, could not resist, or hold myself back. Did I ever pay for > doing the sneaking, it made me so way worse. Know when I get a craving

for sugar > I make my mind think, you will pay for this, do you want to feel those joints > burning over the sugar. It took me a long time and I still snap from time to > time. Truly once you get used to this diet, the thought of eating nasty food > will churn your stomach. > I still get made fun of by my family, about how I eat, my supplements, etc. > I just laugh at them and say well my diet and my supplements help me, maybe > you don't need but I do. I pray someday our Lord don't came down and give you > a sickness like I have where you are forced to eat like I have to. Then I > will say please if nothing good to say, don't say nothing at all, I will not > tolerate unneeded stress. This always seems to work since our loved ones need > reminded they are not babies and they are not sick. It seems they are jealous > of our being sick or something and

it does take a toll on them since we can't > do all the task they are so used to us doing. I wonder sometimes if they don't > say these things out of jealousy since I am not cooking and making them fresh > cookies and cakes serving it on a silver platter to them since becoming sick. > > As far as Dr. Kolb's protocol and confused, so many say this. Understand > that by no means do you need all these supplements, in fact I do know of the top > four she recommends off the list. Each person's protocol is different but > there is a top four she will say well if you don't have the money for the 7 > supplements I recommend, then these are the main ones to take. There is no way > anyone could take all of the supplements on the list. If you read next to them > it will say what the supplement is for. Basically we all need anti-fungal, > primal defense,

liver detox and something for joints and bones usually being > calcium/magnesium. I hope this helps you and remember you are not alone in this > mess. Our stories are so different yet the same. Hang in there and good luck > to you. God Bless> > ~>

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-I'm with ya on the popcorn snack, Bindi! It's amazing what

different flavors and toppings one can create! My favorite is Garlic

and Dill - yes, I actually chop up raw garlic, toss it in and chop

fresh or frozen dill (my Mom puts some away for me in her freezer

when she harvests her dill in the summer - thanks Mom!) ...mmmmh,

yummy. I'm pretty " stinky " later, but parsley seed capsules Asure and

a stainless steel knife to run my fingers along, and voila! Smells

not so bad! (To me it's a good smell, as I was raised Ukrainian

style! LOL) I came across a gourmet garlic site on the net last

year...these people are serious about their garlic. Even talked

about the different garlic breath, from different types of garlic!

Ha Ha! Now that's serious....lol

Love ya lots,

Sunny xo

- In , " freebindi " <bindi@...> wrote:

>

> I eat popcorn to satisfy my snack cravings. I make cookies for

everyone else, but as long as I have a bowl of popcorn all gussied up

with yummy seasonings, I am good to go.

> Bindi

> Re: hi guys, just got back from out of

town and unfortuna...

>

>

> -Yep, Sounds so familiar!!!! All of it they want us to keep

making

> them the stuff I keep telling them if it is around I will want

it. I

> can;t even have it in the house and sugar is poision for you too

and

> you don't need it!! I am the mean mom I guess

> Terri P

>

> -- In , toxicsalines@ wrote:

> >

> > Nan,

> >

> > This sound so familiar and I still deal with these issues. Guy

> sitting

> > around eating cakes and junk late a night in front of Me was so

> hard. I finally

> > realized if I eat this cake or cookie, I will pay tomorrow. I

have

> to say I did

> > not feel better until I stuck to the diet. I craved sugar so

bad I

> would

> > sneak and eat it, could not resist, or hold myself back. Did I

> ever pay for

> > doing the sneaking, it made me so way worse. Know when I get a

> craving for sugar

> > I make my mind think, you will pay for this, do you want to

feel

> those joints

> > burning over the sugar. It took me a long time and I still snap

> from time to

> > time. Truly once you get used to this diet, the thought of

eating

> nasty food

> > will churn your stomach.

> > I still get made fun of by my family, about how I eat, my

> supplements, etc.

> > I just laugh at them and say well my diet and my supplements

help

> me, maybe

> > you don't need but I do. I pray someday our Lord don't came

down

> and give you

> > a sickness like I have where you are forced to eat like I have

to.

> Then I

> > will say please if nothing good to say, don't say nothing at

all, I

> will not

> > tolerate unneeded stress. This always seems to work since our

> loved ones need

> > reminded they are not babies and they are not sick. It seems

they

> are jealous

> > of our being sick or something and it does take a toll on them

> since we can't

> > do all the task they are so used to us doing. I wonder

sometimes

> if they don't

> > say these things out of jealousy since I am not cooking and

making

> them fresh

> > cookies and cakes serving it on a silver platter to them since

> becoming sick.

> >

> > As far as Dr. Kolb's protocol and confused, so many say this.

> Understand

> > that by no means do you need all these supplements, in fact I

do

> know of the top

> > four she recommends off the list. Each person's protocol is

> different but

> > there is a top four she will say well if you don't have the

money

> for the 7

> > supplements I recommend, then these are the main ones to take.

> There is no way

> > anyone could take all of the supplements on the list. If you

read

> next to them

> > it will say what the supplement is for. Basically we all need

anti-

> fungal,

> > primal defense, liver detox and something for joints and bones

> usually being

> > calcium/magnesium. I hope this helps you and remember you are

not

> alone in this

> > mess. Our stories are so different yet the same. Hang in there

> and good luck

> > to you. God Bless

> >

> > ~

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Does he ever use a squeaky belt? Does he read your mind each time you go? I have heard of these doctors so very curious about this.

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No, I have never heard of this. What does this do?toxicsalines@... wrote: , Does he ever use a squeaky belt? Does he read your mind each time you go? I have heard of these doctors so very curious about this. ~ -

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