Re: Urgent Bladder and hypo/dosage adjustments

[Guest guest]

It did get MUCH better for me.... My last adjustment went very well for

me... and I'm back to full donations now....

It is really horrid though... you have the terrible urge and just race to

get there, frantically 'getting into position' then there is barely

anything there... I'd often mumble that if I'd been wearing a pad I'd not

have had to bother.

Since you know EXACTLY what I mean..... I can now be in a public bathroom

and the person in the next stall can actually tell that I had to go.....

(For those that don't know what I mean... when you have the 'three drop

syndrome' there is no 'sound of running water' Not a sound at all, cause

there isn't enough there.)

I know.. another one of those embarrassing subjects.. but since I've

cycled through it soooo many times.... and it's always been linked to

being hypo or a dosage increase.. I know that it's some thing that

concerns more than just one or two of us.

*blush*

Topper ()

On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 13:23:06 +0100 (BST) =?iso-8859-1?q?B=20B?=

writes:

>

> Hiya,

>

> I like that rationale also. And i can believe in it!!

> Whatever it's awful and, grin, like you i have the

> 'three drop donation' syndrome also. For me, at the

> moment it's just a CONSTANT urge. It's like my bladder

> is full all the time. It started for me just before

> taking the T4 though. So i think my bladder was

> already having problems dealing with stuff. Now i'm on

> T4 (and it'll probably be increased again this

> afternoon after seeing the endo) then it's got much

> worser. What keeps me going is the thought that this

> will all go away when i have my hypothyroidism totally

> under control. Here's hoping!! xx

>

> --- topper2@... wrote:

> ---------------------------------

> ,

>

> I can't say that this is true... it's the attitude

> that I've chosen to adopt when my bladder is 'urgent'.

>

> A dosage increase gives the body a kick in the butt..

> speeding up

> processes in the system. The body gets a chance to do

> some house clearing

> of built up stuff and it's all waste and not healthy

> for the body. So I

> choose to believe that with all the extra house

> cleaning and all the

> garbage being cleaned up that the bladder just wants

> that old junk OUT...

> I try to increase my water intake to dilute the stuff

> and it seems that I

> can go longer between runs down the hall and when I do

> go I have a fuller

> bladder.... Other wise I used to refer to it as my

> 'three drop donation'

> I was going ALL the time and there was hardly anything

> there.

>

> After I settle down with the new dose I'm okay again.

>

> As I said... I don't know if my idea is correct but

> it's helped me to

> deal with it....

>

> I would like to add that the sphincter muscle that

> holds the flow from

> the bladder is still a weak muscle, for me, just as

> all my other muscles

> e weaker from being undermedicated for so long.. but

> it's getting

> stronger... But, still, When I have the urge to go I

> don't have a whole

> lot of time to decide what I want to do about it. I

> don't have the

> option, as I did YEARS ago, of waiting half an hour

> until I get home. Ten

> or fifteen minutes I can handle.. but not much more.

>

> Topper ()

[Guest guest]

LOL - that's so funny!! I've certainly been there in

that situation!! my goodness, it's such a relief that

there's other out there with this stupid inconvenient

irritation....hopefully it should get better - til

then i'll keep my fingers AND LEGS crossed - grin!!!!

Thank you so much for replying. You've made my day

with your emails. I'm sat her literally laughing our

loud after reading your email cause i've been there so

many times myself, xx

--- topper2@... wrote:

---------------------------------

It did get MUCH better for me.... My last adjustment

went very well for

me... and I'm back to full donations now....

It is really horrid though... you have the terrible

urge and just race to

get there, frantically 'getting into position' then

there is barely

anything there... I'd often mumble that if I'd been

wearing a pad I'd not

have had to bother.

Since you know EXACTLY what I mean..... I can now be

in a public bathroom

and the person in the next stall can actually tell

that I had to go.....

(For those that don't know what I mean... when you

have the 'three drop

syndrome' there is no 'sound of running water' Not a

sound at all, cause

there isn't enough there.)

I know.. another one of those embarrassing subjects..

but since I've

cycled through it soooo many times.... and it's always

been linked to

being hypo or a dosage increase.. I know that it's

some thing that

concerns more than just one or two of us.

*blush*

Topper ()

On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 13:23:06 +0100 (BST)

=?iso-8859-1?q?B=20B?=

writes:

>

> Hiya,

>

> I like that rationale also. And i can believe in

it!!

> Whatever it's awful and, grin, like you i have the

> 'three drop donation' syndrome also. For me, at the

> moment it's just a CONSTANT urge. It's like my

bladder

> is full all the time. It started for me just before

> taking the T4 though. So i think my bladder was

> already having problems dealing with stuff. Now i'm

on

> T4 (and it'll probably be increased again this

> afternoon after seeing the endo) then it's got much

> worser. What keeps me going is the thought that this

> will all go away when i have my hypothyroidism

totally

> under control. Here's hoping!! xx

>

> --- topper2@... wrote:

> ---------------------------------

> ,

>

> I can't say that this is true... it's the attitude

> that I've chosen to adopt when my bladder is

'urgent'.

>

> A dosage increase gives the body a kick in the

butt..

> speeding up

> processes in the system. The body gets a chance to

do

> some house clearing

> of built up stuff and it's all waste and not healthy

> for the body. So I

> choose to believe that with all the extra house

> cleaning and all the

> garbage being cleaned up that the bladder just wants

> that old junk OUT...

> I try to increase my water intake to dilute the

stuff

> and it seems that I

> can go longer between runs down the hall and when I

do

> go I have a fuller

> bladder.... Other wise I used to refer to it as my

> 'three drop donation'

> I was going ALL the time and there was hardly

anything

> there.

>

> After I settle down with the new dose I'm okay

again.

>

> As I said... I don't know if my idea is correct but

> it's helped me to

> deal with it....

>

> I would like to add that the sphincter muscle that

> holds the flow from

> the bladder is still a weak muscle, for me, just as

> all my other muscles

> e weaker from being undermedicated for so long.. but

> it's getting

> stronger... But, still, When I have the urge to go I

> don't have a whole

> lot of time to decide what I want to do about it. I

> don't have the

> option, as I did YEARS ago, of waiting half an hour

> until I get home. Ten

> or fifteen minutes I can handle.. but not much more.

>

> Topper ()

---------------------------------

[Guest guest]

OMG, I've been like that for the last 12-15 yrs or so. I know that the hypo

has something to do with it, but, in my case, my big ole uterus sat on top

of it for yrs, before it was removed, and the idiot doctor didn't call in a

urologist to " string it back up " . I went to a uro several yrs ago, and he

found a stricture in the urethra, which I guess is something similar to a

kink, or stenosis. He kept trying to stretch it out with those little rods

they use, and it was painful, but it worked for a short while, then would

happen all over again. I finally gave up, and I don't really know what

they've got for that now, in the way of surgery. I've never had a UTI out

of it, but I do drink cranberrry juice and lots of water because of it.

Here comes all this pressure, and if I was jumping on a trampoline, or some

such thing, I'm sure that I would dribble, while my bladder is half full at

times, even after trying to empty it. Other times it completely empties, so

I'm thinking that maybe the hypo has something to do with it.

Tx

Re: Urgent Bladder and hypo/dosage

adjustments

> It did get MUCH better for me.... My last adjustment went very well for

> me... and I'm back to full donations now....

>

> It is really horrid though... you have the terrible urge and just race to

> get there, frantically 'getting into position' then there is barely

> anything there... I'd often mumble that if I'd been wearing a pad I'd not

> have had to bother.

>

> Since you know EXACTLY what I mean..... I can now be in a public bathroom

> and the person in the next stall can actually tell that I had to go.....

> (For those that don't know what I mean... when you have the 'three drop

> syndrome' there is no 'sound of running water' Not a sound at all, cause

> there isn't enough there.)

>

> I know.. another one of those embarrassing subjects.. but since I've

> cycled through it soooo many times.... and it's always been linked to

> being hypo or a dosage increase.. I know that it's some thing that

> concerns more than just one or two of us.

>

> *blush*

>

> Topper ()

[Guest guest]

Hi, ,

Could you post a couple of the links... I'm sure a few folks might want to check out some more info....

Topper ()

On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 06:09:18 -0800 (PST) christine hurwood writes:

hi i belong to a uk national charity called INCONTACT it is for people with bladder and bowel problemsthey do have fantastic website and lots of support for people

[Guest guest]

Yes, I know that I probably should be on the bio-equivalent estrogen and probably progesterone. I haven't gotten around to that one yet. I was on the "toxic horse pee pee" stuff for yrs, and had hot flashes worse than when I wasn't on it. What I now know, is that I was in constant estrogen "overdrive" and had no progesterone, so that was probably one of myriads of things that helped my thyroid function go south. Probably within the last yr or two is when I was actually ready for the bioequivalents. I stopped the estrogen (very very gradually over a 2 month period) back during the summer of '98. See, that was also around about the time that I had the vertigo, so that's why the cause of the vertigo is still so confusing to me. There were/are so many factors to consider, including the female hormones, adrenals, and the supposed anemia that I now have. BTW, I did get back the results of the B12 test, and it shows normal, just barely below the halfway mark. What I'm planning on doing next is a replay of the actual CBCs because, as i said before, they could have been lab error. I do know that they can be badly affected by the blood sitting too long, whether refrigerated or not. The B12 test itself, is a refrigerated blood specimen, but when they did the CBCs, I had to have them retaken because they DIDN'T do them with the thyroid panel like they were supposed to. I'm just wondering if they didn't dump the NEW blood specimen and use the old original one, maybe still sitting up. I know that I can be quite paranoid about medical personnel, but, hey----I work in the middle of it, and not everyone has your best interests at heart, or they just may not care one way or the other. I probably should have had the CBCs done over first, instead of worrying about it, but all the literature says that finding a B12 shortage is very urgent, by the time it has found it's way to showing in the MCV, MCHC, and the RBC count all combined. The MCV was high. If the CBCs are still messed up, then I will do the serum folic acid and the red cell folate.

Tx

Re: Urgent Bladder and hypo/dosage adjustments

The lining of the bladder has T3 receptors. It also has estrogen receptors. My irritable bladder improved greatly when I started Armour. It improved even more on the bio-equivalent estrogen (as opposed to the toxic pharmaceutical stuff).