Re: new, day 3, input appreciated

[Guest guest]

My son slept 12-14 hours a day and threw up the same frothy you are talking

about. He was tired for about two weeks. His bowels are normal now and he is

back to normal {for him} He is eating more vegy's then he ever has in his life.

I never thought I'd see him eat zuccini for breakfast but he does. Stick it

out! PS I feed him only organic foods.

Pam

[Guest guest]

Are you doing the intro diet first? Good for you that you are all doing it. I

have found this helpful for us, asd well.

, Virginia's Mom, (non ASD), age 8, SCD five weeks, NO Imodium for 3

weeks, Nortryptaline (migraine prevention), Imitrex, also Mom to 11, and

Rose 4

[Guest guest]

It sounds like you are going through die-off. We had the same reaction of

vomiting from die-off on day 3 of the diet when he was only eating turkey,

carrots and grape juice. He got better after day 5. He has continued to

improve as we have stayed with this diet, and he has always had honey and fruit.

He is talking alot more and having trophies. It's just amazing.

Our friends also saw vomiting and extreme lethargy on day 3 of the diet with

their 4 year old son. I wonder if it is something about day 3 that some of

the yeast just can't survive anymore without those starches and they all die.

, (4) asd, scd 6 weeks

[Guest guest]

" our 3 1/2 yr. old is on day 3 of the diet "

What are you feeding him?

The foods you listed for your other child are not foods generally

given at the beginning of the diet.

Just curious if that's what you are feeding your 3 1/2 year old as well.

When asking for input, it always helps us to know exactly what the

child is eating and drinking.

Jody

mom to -5.0 and -7.4

[Guest guest]

hi jody!

i think you are the same jody that was at the st. pius meeting in

november?

paddy is our only child and i was referring to him alone in the

initial email. we had intended our start date for going scd as new

years day. in the meantime, while running out of illegals, paddy's

menu has seriously diminished and he's craving his gf/cf foods as

predicted. but during this time, his food intake dropped

dramatically and we started to see signs of die-off, so thought we'd

just get started rather than make him go through the die-off twice.

he's not eating anything. drinking water only (15-30 oz. day).

last night he had maybe 20 teaspoons of chicken broth/soup (scd

recipe). he's not even touching scrambled eggs which he usually

will eat. he's not eaten really anything other than that for a good

2 days now. 3 days ago he did have 2 scd peanut butter cookies.

that's it for a 3 day time span. he is constantly being offered (in

various forms) everything listed on intro.

last vomiting was yesterday from 4-7 a.m. no bm since one day prior

to that, but not surprised since no food intake.

what do you make of this, and can i go ahead and try offering

honey? move on to stage 1?

i know i'm not saying anything new to the group, but our frustration

levels are HIGH and he is SO hungry (and stubborn). thank-you,

thank-you, thank-you for your replies, suggestions, and support.

keep it coming!

>

> " our 3 1/2 yr. old is on day 3 of the diet "

>

> What are you feeding him?

>

> The foods you listed for your other child are not foods generally

> given at the beginning of the diet.

> Just curious if that's what you are feeding your 3 1/2 year old as

well.

>

>

> When asking for input, it always helps us to know exactly what the

> child is eating and drinking.

>

>

> Jody

> mom to -5.0 and -7.4

[Guest guest]

" i think you are the same jody that was at the st. pius meeting in

november? "

Yep, that'd be me!

Sorry about the confusion about there being 2 kids... not sure how

that happened.

After two days of not eating, I think it's time to move on. His

system had a rest from the illegal foods...

Add foods slowly. Try a banana, applesause or pearsauce. See if he

will eat them. Did you try the chicken pancakes? They are easy and

pretty kid friendly.

Make sure you are giving him watered down grape juice so he get some

carbs even if he won't eat anything. He needs the carbs for energy.

What DOES he like to eat?

Did you clean the illegals out of your house or can he still see his

favorites hanging around, but you just won't give them to him?

Jody

mom to -5.0 and -7.4

[Guest guest]

> It sounds like you are going through die-off. We had the same

reaction of

> vomiting from die-off on day 3 of the diet when he was only eating

turkey,

> carrots and grape juice. He got better after day 5. He has

continued to

> improve as we have stayed with this diet, and he has always had

honey and fruit.

> He is talking alot more and having trophies. It's just amazing.

>

> Our friends also saw vomiting and extreme lethargy on day 3 of the

diet with

> their 4 year old son. I wonder if it is something about day 3

that some of

> the yeast just can't survive anymore without those starches and

they all die.

>

> , (4) asd, scd 6 weeks

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> " i think you are the same jody that was at the st. pius meeting in

> november? "

>

>

> Yep, that'd be me!

>

> Sorry about the confusion about there being 2 kids... not sure how

> that happened.

>

> After two days of not eating, I think it's time to move on. His

> system had a rest from the illegal foods...

>

> Add foods slowly. Try a banana, applesause or pearsauce. See if

he

> will eat them. Did you try the chicken pancakes? They are easy

and

> pretty kid friendly.

>

> Make sure you are giving him watered down grape juice so he get

some

> carbs even if he won't eat anything. He needs the carbs for

energy.

>

> What DOES he like to eat?

> Did you clean the illegals out of your house or can he still see

his

> favorites hanging around, but you just won't give them to him?

>

>

> Jody

> mom to -5.0 and -7.4

i tried turkey pancakes b/c that's what i had in the fridge and

ready for puree-ing. he asked for pancakes and was excited about

them, but wouldn't touch them once they were in front of him.

i've been letting him have some honey since my last post, and he

can't get enough of that! but i'm taking it slow b/c i don't know

how it will hit his stomach. but honey should be a decent carb

source compared to what he's getting now, which is nothing.

i have never been able to get him to drink anything other than water

(and he was a typical asd milk fiend prior to going casein free).

that's it for drinks.

his eating history: very healthy fruit/veggie/some meats until

about 18 months when he started restricting. then he was nothing

but dairy/grain (now that i look back on it). he was diagnosed in

may 2003 w/ aspergers, started gf/cf 12 days later. from there he

transitioned begrudgingly, and still restricting to tapioca bread, a

big lover of anything with chocolate, peanut butter, occasional

scrambled egg, dairy free milk, pastas, rice. again, the

starches/sugars.

and we have cleaned out the house! there isn't anything around that

he can't have. wouldn't be able to do it otherwise. i think he's

better for my husband than for me, b/c i'm at home w/ him all the

time & he knows how to push my buttons. it's been a long day!

can i safely continue w/ honey? and any suggestions on how

much/often? and is cocoa in any form allowed?

[Guest guest]

" can i safely continue w/ honey? and any suggestions on how

much/often? and is cocoa in any form allowed? "

Now, I am even more confused.

How are you giving him honey if he isn't eating anything?

Just putting honey on a spoon?

You really need to get some food into him.

Cocoa is not allowed in any form.

Jody

mom to -5.0 and -7.4

[Guest guest]

> " can i safely continue w/ honey? and any suggestions on how

> much/often? and is cocoa in any form allowed? "

>

>

> Now, I am even more confused.

>

> How are you giving him honey if he isn't eating anything?

>

> Just putting honey on a spoon?

>

> You really need to get some food into him.

>

> Cocoa is not allowed in any form.

>

>

>

> Jody

> mom to -5.0 and -7.4

honey on a spoon, and we also have these honey sticks (my brother

lives a farm over from an apiary). they are just pure honey in a

straw with the ends sealed shut, cut open and walah. still no

food. this stubborness is exhausting.