Re: Wow!! Ughhhh!

[Guest guest]

Jen,

Once again YES I had all the stuff you are mentioning. Felt like death, low grade fevers daily, headaches, muscle aches. Felt like the right side of my brain would bust and so on and so on. I would contact Dr. Kolb I am worried about you since you need removal and for someone to believe the implants are the reason you are sick. Most doctors will not believe you and tell you they are so "safe", there are lots of women who go through this. Most will say in your head. The crawling feeling it feels like a worm that goes where ever it wants to go, one minute in the leg, next in your back or in your stomach. I hate that worm, it is from the bio-toxins and you have to find a way to get it out of your body. I do know that Dr. Kolb has financing and is worth the money for a safe removal and your road to recovery from all these symptoms. Is your eyes blood shot, looks like you are on a drunk, but not drinking? I had this and so many others the list is just endless..... Please get these toxic bags removed properly, do research and stay with this group of ladies for support and tips to get your health back, they truly saved my life. I was dead until I got removal I can say that, now I am alive still daily struggles but don't feel like I need to run to the ER for an IV treatment, which I never got anyway when I even went. I had my right side leaking so symptoms mostly on right side, felt like the right side of my face was paralysed and literally had to use every muscle in my face to move it. My right arm locked up and was frozen, we call this a frozen shoulder. Like I said endless. There is a free test (written test) at VCS Test Center by ChronicNeurotoxins, Inc. Lyme Disease Information to see if you have the bio-toxin. Just do the written test and it will give you a score. There is one test we can take to see if it is from our "safe" implants, it is called the Alpha MSH Test, but most doctors don't know what this is, our Dr. Kolb does though so you can ask her about this or it may be on her site at www.plastikos.com Take the free Yeast test her is directions, let us know how you did, most of us have this with implant sickness, Stop Systemic Yeast Infection - Saliva Test Also you may have dry eyes and mouth that is another symptom. Do you have it looks like someone stuck a pin in your skin then just took it out, leaving a small red dot? Do you have anxiety? Good Luck to you and what ever it takes get them out of you even if you have to sell your house so not worth your health.

~

[Guest guest]

Jen,

Where are you?

You really need to have your implants removed, and removed

properly. You can get better and have a normal life again.

We have a list of plastic surgeons that remove implants

properly. The majority of plastic surgeons do NOT remove them

properly and do not remove the scar tissue that has a lot of toxins in it.

Lynda

At 10:19 PM 2/15/2007, you wrote:

>I don't even know where to begin or what to feel or even how to feel

>it.i have read all the different side effects and am sad to say that

>I am not alone. I hate that so many of us women are out there.Yet am

>glad that I found you all.

>I can not begin to wrap my head that aches around this right now

>since it was only today that this all was revealed to me.UGHHH!

>Aches head aches, back aches ,neck aches...All the time. I am 30 and

>feel like I amm 60 most of the time. My mom could run me into the

>ground if she wanted to.Can not think clearly alot and cry even when

>I am not sad. Itching crawling skin all the time. Did any one ever

>have cold hands and feet that never seem to get warm???

>That could just be poor ciculation I guess.I am always cold!!!!

>The itching and the hives/rashes after 5 years is what I am at my

>breaking point with.You would think that it would be the other stuff

>but the hardest thing for me at the moment is the fact that my skin

>is always crawling.

>Well the aches all over are not that fun.

>I think most people don't even believe me and just tell me I need to

>quit stressing and it will all go away. the only problem is was not

>stressed out untill all this came upone me. The more I itch or

>don't sleep or ache the more I stress. bad cycle!

>Jen

>

>

[Guest guest]

Western part of North Carolina (

>

> >I don't even know where to begin or what to feel or even how to feel

> >it.i have read all the different side effects and am sad to say that

> >I am not alone. I hate that so many of us women are out there.Yet am

> >glad that I found you all.

> >I can not begin to wrap my head that aches around this right now

> >since it was only today that this all was revealed to me.UGHHH!

> >Aches head aches, back aches ,neck aches...All the time. I am 30 and

> >feel like I amm 60 most of the time. My mom could run me into the

> >ground if she wanted to.Can not think clearly alot and cry even when

> >I am not sad. Itching crawling skin all the time. Did any one ever

> >have cold hands and feet that never seem to get warm???

> >That could just be poor ciculation I guess.I am always cold!!!!

> >The itching and the hives/rashes after 5 years is what I am at my

> >breaking point with.You would think that it would be the other stuff

> >but the hardest thing for me at the moment is the fact that my skin

> >is always crawling.

> >Well the aches all over are not that fun.

> >I think most people don't even believe me and just tell me I need to

> >quit stressing and it will all go away. the only problem is was not

> >stressed out untill all this came upone me. The more I itch or

> >don't sleep or ache the more I stress. bad cycle!

> >Jen

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

My eyes are always dry >I go through eye drops like crazy. Just started

about 2 years ago.

>

> Jen,

>

> Once again YES I had all the stuff you are mentioning. Felt like

death, low

> grade fevers daily, headaches, muscle aches. Felt like the right side

of my

> brain would bust and so on and so on. I would contact Dr. Kolb I am

worried

> about you since you need removal and for someone to believe the

implants are the

> reason you are sick. Most doctors will not believe you and tell you

they are

> so " safe " , there are lots of women who go through this. Most will say

in your

> head. The crawling feeling it feels like a worm that goes where ever

it

> wants to go, one minute in the leg, next in your back or in your

stomach. I hate

> that worm, it is from the bio-toxins and you have to find a way to get

it out

> of your body. I do know that Dr. Kolb has financing and is worth the

money

> for a safe removal and your road to recovery from all these symptoms.

Is your

> eyes blood shot, looks like you are on a drunk, but not drinking? I

had this

> and so many others the list is just endless..... Please get these

toxic bags

> removed properly, do research and stay with this group of ladies for

support

> and tips to get your health back, they truly saved my life. I was dead

until I

> got removal I can say that, now I am alive still daily struggles but

don't

> feel like I need to run to the ER for an IV treatment, which I never

got anyway

> when I even went. I had my right side leaking so symptoms mostly on

right

> side, felt like the right side of my face was paralysed and literally

had to use

> every muscle in my face to move it. My right arm locked up and was

frozen, we

> call this a frozen shoulder. Like I said endless. There is a free test

> (written test) at _VCS Test Center by ChronicNeurotoxins, Inc. Lyme

Disease

> Information_

(http://www.chronicneurotoxins.com/learnmore/fungaltoxins.cfm) to see

> if you have the bio-toxin. Just do the written test and it will give

you a

> score. There is one test we can take to see if it is from our " safe "

implants,

> it is called the Alpha MSH Test, but most doctors don't know what this

is,

> our Dr. Kolb does though so you can ask her about this or it may be on

her site

> at _www.plastikos.com_ (http://www.plastikos.com) Take the free Yeast

test

> her is directions, let us know how you did, most of us have this with

implant

> sickness, _Stop Systemic Yeast Infection - Saliva Test_

> (http://www.stopyeast.com/saliva.html) Also you may have dry eyes and

mouth that is another

> symptom. Do you have it looks like someone stuck a pin in your skin

then just took

> it out, leaving a small red dot? Do you have anxiety? Good Luck to you

and

> what ever it takes get them out of you even if you have to sell your

house so

> not worth your health.

>

> ~

>

[Guest guest]

Jen,

EVERYTHING you describe has been experience by women here! . . . You are in the right place!

A couple things that may help with the itchy feeling and rashes . . . Take a hot Espom Salt bath . . .with a bottle of 3% hydrogen peroxide added. . . The Epsom salts will help draw out the toxins, and the peroxide will kill the bacteria as it comes out. This is not going to be a permanent fix, but it may help with symptoms. The only permanent fix is to get your implants out.

The only caution is to do a test first to see if you experience a burning sensation when you come in contact with the Espom salts . . . If you do, stop immediately and rinse thoroughly with clean water. Even then, applying a 3% hydrogen peroxide solution will help with the bacteria problem.

Stress does make things much worse. Even those of us who have done really well post implant can experience setbacks when overly stressed. Controlling stress is much easier said than done. Prayer helps . So does medication.

Dr. Kolb may be the closest doctor to you. Outstanding doctor! . . Have you checked the archives for a "Recommended doctor" near you. Maybe you can find one where you have family or friends.

Also . . . sugar and refined grains (the kind in white bread) feed fungal organisms. The fungal organisms will make you crave sweets, so it's not easy. But you should start feeling results when you stop eating sugar and refined grains. Garlic is a miracle food . . . Eat it raw, fresh and crushed. . . Yeah, the taste takes getting used to - but the results are worth it. . . Start slow, because your tummy is going to think you've declared war on it .. but gradually work up to as many as 12 cloves a day.

The beneficial bacteria in your body, necessary for health, have taken a beating. You'll need some probiotics like those found in Acidopholis, naturally fermented foods like yogurt, buttermilk, Kefir and sauerkraut. "The Maker's Diet" explains it all very well. You can find the book, and discounted products by PHONING www.appleadayandbeyond.com.

Hugs,

Rogene

Wow!! Ughhhh!

I don't even know where to begin or what to feel or even how to feel it.i have read all the different side effects and am sad to say that I am not alone. I hate that so many of us women are out there.Yet am glad that I found you all.I can not begin to wrap my head that aches around this right now since it was only today that this all was revealed to me.UGHHH!Aches head aches, back aches ,neck aches...All the time. I am 30 and feel like I amm 60 most of the time. My mom could run me into the ground if she wanted to.Can not think clearly alot and cry even when I am not sad. Itching crawling skin all the time. Did any one ever have cold hands and feet that never seem to get warm???That could just be poor ciculation I guess.I am always cold!!!!The itching and the hives/rashes after 5 years is what I am at my breaking point with.You would think that it would be the other stuff but the hardest thing for me at the moment

is the fact that my skin is always crawling.Well the aches all over are not that fun.I think most people don't even believe me and just tell me I need to quit stressing and it will all go away. the only problem is was not stressed out untill all this came upone me. The more I itch or don't sleep or ache the more I stress. bad cycle!Jen

[Guest guest]

Rogene, Thank you once again I will definatlly try the bath with the salts and peroxide. JenRogene S <saxony01@...> wrote: Jen, EVERYTHING you describe has been experience by women here! . . . You are in the right place! A couple things that may help with the itchy feeling and rashes . . . Take a hot Espom Salt bath . . .with a bottle of 3% hydrogen peroxide added. . . The Epsom salts will help draw out the toxins, and the peroxide will kill the bacteria as it comes out. This is not going to be a permanent fix, but it may help with symptoms. The only permanent fix is to get your implants out. The only caution is to do a test first to see if you experience a burning sensation when you come in contact with the Espom salts . .

.. If you do, stop immediately and rinse thoroughly with clean water. Even then, applying a 3% hydrogen peroxide solution will help with the bacteria problem. Stress does make things much worse. Even those of us who have done really well post implant can experience setbacks when overly stressed. Controlling stress is much easier said than done. Prayer helps . So does medication. Dr. Kolb may be the closest doctor to you. Outstanding doctor! . . Have you checked the archives for a "Recommended doctor" near you. Maybe you can find one where you have family or friends. Also . . . sugar and refined grains (the kind in white bread) feed fungal organisms. The fungal organisms will make you crave sweets, so it's not easy. But you should start feeling results when you stop eating sugar and refined grains. Garlic is a miracle food . . . Eat it raw, fresh and crushed. . . Yeah, the taste takes getting used to - but the results are worth it. . . Start slow, because your tummy is going to think you've declared war on it .. but gradually work up to as many as 12 cloves a day. The beneficial bacteria in your body, necessary for health, have taken a beating. You'll need some probiotics like those found in

Acidopholis, naturally fermented foods like yogurt, buttermilk, Kefir and sauerkraut. "The Maker's Diet" explains it all very well. You can find the book, and discounted products by PHONING www.appleadayandbeyond.com. Hugs, Rogene

Wow!! Ughhhh! I don't even know where to begin or what to feel or even how to feel it.i have read all the different side effects and am sad to say that I am not alone. I hate that so many of us women are out there.Yet am glad that I found you all.I can not begin to wrap my head that aches around this right now since it was only today that this all was revealed to me.UGHHH!Aches head aches, back aches ,neck aches...All the time. I am 30 and feel like I amm 60 most of the time. My mom could run me into the ground if she wanted to.Can not think clearly alot and cry even when I am not sad. Itching crawling skin all the time. Did any one ever have cold hands and feet that never seem to get warm???That could just be poor ciculation I guess.I am always cold!!!!The itching and the hives/rashes after 5 years is what I am at my breaking point with.You would think that it would be

the other stuff but the hardest thing for me at the moment is the fact that my skin is always crawling.Well the aches all over are not that fun.I think most people don't even believe me and just tell me I need to quit stressing and it will all go away. the only problem is was not stressed out untill all this came upone me. The more I itch or don't sleep or ache the more I stress. bad cycle!Jen

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[Guest guest]

Jen,

The cold hands and feet is a sign of Raynaud's, an autoimmune disease that is common amongst women with implants.

All that you write is what we've experienced.

The best chances you'll have for healing include getting those nasty implants out and using natural healing therapies to let your body get back into balance.

Patty

Wow!! Ughhhh!

I don't even know where to begin or what to feel or even how to feel it.i have read all the different side effects and am sad to say that I am not alone. I hate that so many of us women are out there.Yet am glad that I found you all.I can not begin to wrap my head that aches around this right now since it was only today that this all was revealed to me.UGHHH!Aches head aches, back aches ,neck aches...All the time. I am 30 and feel like I amm 60 most of the time. My mom could run me into the ground if she wanted to.Can not think clearly alot and cry even when I am not sad. Itching crawling skin all the time. Did any one ever have cold hands and feet that never seem to get warm???That could just be poor ciculation I guess.I am always cold!!!!The itching and the hives/rashes after 5 years is what I am at my breaking point with.You would think that it would be the other stuff but the hardest thing for me at the moment

is the fact that my skin is always crawling.Well the aches all over are not that fun.I think most people don't even believe me and just tell me I need to quit stressing and it will all go away. the only problem is was not stressed out untill all this came upone me. The more I itch or don't sleep or ache the more I stress. bad cycle!Jen

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[Guest guest]

Thanks for the response to the cold hands and feet thing. Scary , but for so long have not been able to figure out why they can never seem to get warm. JenTricia Trish <glory2glory1401@...> wrote: Jen, The cold hands and feet is a sign of Raynaud's, an autoimmune

disease that is common amongst women with implants. All that you write is what we've experienced. The best chances you'll have for healing include getting those nasty implants out and using natural healing therapies to let your body get back into balance. Patty Wow!! Ughhhh! I don't even know where to begin or what to feel or even how to feel it.i have read all the different side effects and am sad to say that I am not alone. I hate that so many of us women are out there.Yet am glad that I found you all.I can not begin to wrap my head that aches around this right now since it was only today that this all was revealed to me.UGHHH!Aches head aches, back aches ,neck aches...All the time. I am 30 and feel like I amm 60 most of the time. My mom could run me into the ground if she wanted to.Can not think clearly alot and cry even when I am not sad. Itching crawling skin all the time. Did any one ever have cold hands and feet that never seem to get warm???That could just be poor ciculation I guess.I am always cold!!!!The itching and the

hives/rashes after 5 years is what I am at my breaking point with.You would think that it would be the other stuff but the hardest thing for me at the moment is the fact that my skin is always crawling.Well the aches all over are not that fun.I think most people don't even believe me and just tell me I need to quit stressing and it will all go away. the only problem is was not stressed out untill all this came upone me. The more I itch or don't sleep or ache the more I stress. bad cycle!Jen Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Autos' Green Center.

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[Guest guest]

-Jen mine is the same story, implants were not about the size for

me, breastfeeding did me in! And the PS I used origannly said

breast lifts looked awful without implants so I got them and he

filled them up twice after doing two lousy breast lifts and trying

to fix them by plumping them up! I should have ran out of there

because my head kept saying to just get a lift. I do not have

weight issues but my breasts grew from pg and nursing from a b to c

and then just looked deflated and saggy. But read my post last

week, I am LOVING not having the implants. I am not deformed at

all, but have scars from the lift, which just take a long time to

fade. I am shocked that I still have any breast left after two and

a half lifts and two implants surgeries! I am a 34C although my

actual cup size is more of a B, I am at a low body weight too so I

would have thought they would have disappeared. Just to give you

hope that a lot of women end up fine, please get a PS who knows what

he/she is doing, I think that plays a big part. I live in SC so I

can give you the name of mine. Love Nan

-- In , Hunter-

<jensbugaboos@...> wrote:

>

> Praise God it was after!!!

> It was after that I choose to get them cause of the horrible

damage that the breast feeding did to them.Now I guess I did worse

all for vanitiy. What have I done! I am scared that I now will look

even worse than I ever did before, It was never about big boobs for

me it was just they were so ugly and saggy and My husband had never

seen me before the kids.(he was not the father)And I felt like he

was marrying damaged goods. Now I feel like a fool.

> I guess I am still in shock. I must sound so vain. OH Boy I

don't even know how or what to feel.

>

> Jen

>

> Rogene S <saxony01@...> wrote:

> Jen,

>

> Were your children born before, or after you got your implants?

>

> Rogene

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Don't pick lemons.

> See all the new 2007 cars at Autos.

>

[Guest guest]

-NAN,

Please share with me the info you have. Did you have yours removed

then???

I went from A cup to d when nursing back to a- and saggy and empty

when done nursing , to D cup to just fill up empty skin .

Now I have a fear that I will look like a mess. Does your doc

explant the way tha all these ladys keep talking of???

Thanks my email is jenbugaboos@...

Jen

- In , " nnnttwilliams "

<nnnttwilliams@...> wrote:

>

> -Jen mine is the same story, implants were not about the size for

> me, breastfeeding did me in! And the PS I used origannly said

> breast lifts looked awful without implants so I got them and he

> filled them up twice after doing two lousy breast lifts and trying

> to fix them by plumping them up! I should have ran out of there

> because my head kept saying to just get a lift. I do not have

> weight issues but my breasts grew from pg and nursing from a b to

c

> and then just looked deflated and saggy. But read my post last

> week, I am LOVING not having the implants. I am not deformed at

> all, but have scars from the lift, which just take a long time to

> fade. I am shocked that I still have any breast left after two

and

> a half lifts and two implants surgeries! I am a 34C although my

> actual cup size is more of a B, I am at a low body weight too so I

> would have thought they would have disappeared. Just to give you

> hope that a lot of women end up fine, please get a PS who knows

what

> he/she is doing, I think that plays a big part. I live in SC so I

> can give you the name of mine. Love Nan

>

>

>

> -- In , Hunter-

> <jensbugaboos@> wrote:

> >

> > Praise God it was after!!!

> > It was after that I choose to get them cause of the horrible

> damage that the breast feeding did to them.Now I guess I did worse

> all for vanitiy. What have I done! I am scared that I now will

look

> even worse than I ever did before, It was never about big boobs

for

> me it was just they were so ugly and saggy and My husband had

never

> seen me before the kids.(he was not the father)And I felt like he

> was marrying damaged goods. Now I feel like a fool.

> > I guess I am still in shock. I must sound so vain. OH Boy I

> don't even know how or what to feel.

> >

> > Jen

> >

> > Rogene S <saxony01@> wrote:

> > Jen,

> >

> > Were your children born before, or after you got your implants?

> >

> > Rogene

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > Don't pick lemons.

> > See all the new 2007 cars at Autos.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

--You are great Rogene!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!-

You are like never ending with info thanks I am grateful to you....

Jen

, Rogene S <saxony01@...> wrote:

>

> Jen . . .

>

> Pay particular attention to ANYTHING that you use or eat that has

any type of silicone in it - this includes all medications. . . Even

vegetable peels have silica in them. Normally that would be OK, but

if you're over the top with sensitivity to silicone, you could be

reacting to them too.

>

> Eat only freshly prepared foods . . . nothing out of a bottle,

nothing pre-prepared. Even check your toothpaste! Chances are it's

loaded with silicone dioxide.

>

> If part of your problem is silicone hypersensitivity, you should

begin seeing some relief in days.

>

> Hugs,

>

> Rogene

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your response, mine were placed in the crease under my

breast.

Scar is bearly even something that you can see.

I have not heard of donut?????

Thank you and yes God does bless me every day !!!!!! Jen-

-- In , toxicsalines@... wrote:

>

> Jen,

>

> Can I comfort you on this post a little bit. Most don't look

deformed after

> explant. I know that Dr. Kolb does a donut lift with explant,

which most look

> better than they did with those toxic bags. With a donut lift

there is no T

> scar going down the middle of your breast. It is performed

through the areola

> only. Can I ask you were your implants were inserted, areola,

crease or

> armpits? You won't be deformed like most PS will tell you so you

do a redo

> instead of removal, don't worry. God Bless!!!!!

>

> ~

>

[Guest guest]

-Thanks ,

If I ever get up the couarage to e-mail Dr.Kolb I will ask her.

I am still in the whole shock place!!!!

And not even knowing where or when or how to get this ball rolling

and not even sure I have made a decision yet.

Jen

-- In , toxicsalines@... wrote:

>

> Jen,

>

> I had not heard of a donut lift either until Dr. Kolb. Most get a

lift by

> the PS cutting a keyhole incision around the nipple and then

straight under the

> breast to the crease, looking like a T. I do know had that

type of

> lift, She could tell you more regarding the T Lift. The donut

lift is only by

> going around the nipple. I was worried about the T-scar and the

scar under the

> crease, so I went for the donut lift. Having a scar around the

nipple only.

> Since you already had the first surgery in the crease, you could

ask Dr. Kolb

> what kind of lift she could do on you to keep the scar minimal?

Who knows she

> may have a crease lift? I don't know all the stuff she does as

far as lifts,

> just thought you check out the donut lift, since you were worried

about scars

> and explant surgery results. I know of others who got the donut

lift and

> were very happy from there results. Dr. Kolb maybe able to go in

through your

> existing scar and do a lift, I don't know but you could e-mail

her. If you do

> e-mail her I would like to know what the options are so we could

pass this

> along to other women. Thanks and God Bless

>

> ~

>