Guest guest Posted December 28, 2003 Report Share Posted December 28, 2003 I am very depressed and don't think I will be able to do this diet for my son. I am not a baker and to make matters worse I have to adjust all the recipes from almond flour to macadamia nut flour ( the only nut that my son is not allergic to.) I tried making Sandy's crackers and they crumbled on the baking sheet. My son lives on rice crackers with takini and jelly. If I don't find a substitute I cannot do this.I can get him to eat meat, chicken but only with a reward of a cracker or pretzel. If i can't make a dough I can't make either. karen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2003 Report Share Posted December 29, 2003 Hi .. hang in there,. from another " " . My son had sensory issues and could truly only put certain type foods in his mouth. With the strict start of the diet, he lost much of his sensory problem and began to eat the foods I gave him. We were very strict and ate only the things on the intro and beginning phases of the diet. In fact, 12 weeks later we are adding some foods but not that many. I don't think he is ready yet. I know we all have to do what it takes but in our case we did not add anything like the crackers or substitutes for the things he loved so much because there were not any substitute foods honestly that were recommended for the early part of the diet that would replace what he had truly been " living on " ... but it worked and he is doing great now. It has not always been easy... we have had food battles but if I am consistent and don't give in, I have found that with just a few bites and my persistence, he then will take most foods without a problem. I've been willing to persevere with this since I see that it is healing his body and may be his only chance for a normal life. I've really tried to remember that and keep it all in perspective. Which is hard sometimes when he is not cooperating! I'm sure that there will be some things that he just will not eat... we all have dislikes... but for the most part his tastes and senses are adjusting. Between that and die off the first few days, it was a lot of fun! But he did become able to tolerate food from a sensory standpoint so it was worth it from the very beginning. Funny thing is that Green Beans are on the intro diet and that is the ONE thing in this world he just can't stand. Well we had them tonight... pureed a bit but we had them and he is now eating them. Many on the list noted to me when we started that I would be surprised how my child's taste would change and it did. But we went cold turkey into the diet and totally stopped all the things he was used to and I think that was probably the best way for us. I'm sure he'd still love some pasta and some graham crackers but we just don't have it or substitute for it at this point in time. He hasn't gone hungry either... stubborn but not hungry at times! Just hang in there and if you decide to go forward with it, just remember that you are tring to do what is best for him and give him time to adjust. From all I've read in the last 3 months, it seems that most children do settle into it. Have a blessed week! Mom to Slater SCD/Dairy free 11 weeks 23 months old and PDD/NOS -- - In pecanbread , krnstvn@a... wrote: > I am very depressed and don't think I will be able to do this diet for my > son. I am not a baker and to make matters worse I have to adjust all the recipes > from almond flour to macadamia nut flour ( the only nut that my son is not > allergic to.) I tried making Sandy's crackers and they crumbled on the baking > sheet. My son lives on rice crackers with takini and jelly. If I don't find a > substitute I cannot do this.I can get him to eat meat, chicken but only with a > reward of a cracker or pretzel. If i can't make a dough I can't make either. > karen > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2003 Report Share Posted December 29, 2003 , I know how discouraging it is to begin this diet. My son, Spencer, lived on gfcf crackers and chips. He was the world's pickiest eater. I know you have to figure out what is best for your son. We found that going cold turkey and getting rid of all illegal items worked best. I think in the beginning you're nervous that your child won't eat anything, and he'll starve. We found if he's hungry, he'll eat! Does your son like pancakes? This has been written about mant times, but you can make great pancakes with eggs, bananas (and perhaps sneak in some veggies). We still eat tons of pancakes, and we've been on the diet almost 2 months. I know somedays I feel I'm giving Spencer the same things over and over, but when I realize he's getting nutrition and his gut is healing, I push forward. You can do it!! Louisa > I am very depressed and don't think I will be able to do this diet for my > son. I am not a baker and to make matters worse I have to adjust all the recipes > from almond flour to macadamia nut flour ( the only nut that my son is not > allergic to.) I tried making Sandy's crackers and they crumbled on the baking > sheet. My son lives on rice crackers with takini and jelly. If I don't find a > substitute I cannot do this.I can get him to eat meat, chicken but only with a > reward of a cracker or pretzel. If i can't make a dough I can't make either. > karen > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2003 Report Share Posted December 29, 2003 In our case, making subs for favorite (carb) foods was a mistake. Back in the spring we started SCD by subbing in nut flour for all Adam's favorite GF flour foods, pancakes, waffles, muffins, crackers... Adam had a good spring and summer (which started before SCD) which I think was due to a variety of things, including SCD, but his stools never firmed up. In Oct. I decided to go back to the intro (never did it before). Within a week stools were firm and good diameter (no more thin snakes), and I started getting great reports from school. For Adam doing the intro (getting the nuts out) and then introducing other foods slowly was key. We started adding nut flour (at MUCH lower levels than in summer) at about 7 weeks. Twice I've pulled back on it as I think it may be causing some grouchiness (subtle). I admit that he would eat hamburger before, so that was less of a concern. BUT he never ate cooked vegetables only raw, and has now gone almost 3 months without ANY RAW fruit or veggies; he eats them cooked. He does not always eat his vegetables, but most of the time he does. Good luck. I know getting started is tough. I had to steel myself for months, and just resolved to do the intro for two days, and if the kids didn't eat, well, they didn't eat. Son took to it well, daughter less well, but she made it the two days. I held them both off nut flour for several weeks (used a LOT of egg-veggie pancakes), and still don't give either of them raw produce. -- Sue, mom to Adam and SCD 2.5 months If I don't find a > substitute I cannot do this.I can get him to eat meat, chicken but only with a > reward of a cracker or pretzel. If i can't make a dough I can't make either. > karen > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2003 Report Share Posted December 30, 2003 Hi Sue.. can I ask which veggie pancake recipe you use. That sounds like something we might add. I think I remember reading that there are several maybe and I'd love to know which is good to add veggies to. Thanks! in AL Mom to Slater SCD/dairy free-11 weeks PDD/NOS > In our case, making subs for favorite (carb) foods was a mistake. > Back in the spring we started SCD by subbing in nut flour for all > Adam's favorite GF flour foods, pancakes, waffles, muffins, > crackers... Adam had a good spring and summer (which started before > SCD) which I think was due to a variety of things, including SCD, > but his stools never firmed up. > > In Oct. I decided to go back to the intro (never did it before). > Within a week stools were firm and good diameter (no more thin > snakes), and I started getting great reports from school. > > For Adam doing the intro (getting the nuts out) and then introducing > other foods slowly was key. We started adding nut flour (at MUCH > lower levels than in summer) at about 7 weeks. Twice I've pulled > back on it as I think it may be causing some grouchiness (subtle). > > I admit that he would eat hamburger before, so that was less of a > concern. BUT he never ate cooked vegetables only raw, and has now > gone almost 3 months without ANY RAW fruit or veggies; he eats them > cooked. He does not always eat his vegetables, but most of the time > he does. > > Good luck. I know getting started is tough. I had to steel myself > for months, and just resolved to do the intro for two days, and if > the kids didn't eat, well, they didn't eat. Son took to it well, > daughter less well, but she made it the two days. I held them both > off nut flour for several weeks (used a LOT of egg-veggie pancakes), > and still don't give either of them raw produce. > > -- Sue, mom to Adam and > SCD 2.5 months > > > If I don't find a > > substitute I cannot do this.I can get him to eat meat, chicken but > only with a > > reward of a cracker or pretzel. If i can't make a dough I can't > make either. > > karen > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2003 Report Share Posted December 30, 2003 I'm pretty sure it is on Pecanbread.com now...yep, I just checked, its called SNEAKY PANCAKES. When I started making them, I did not measure, just added a glob of squash to the eggs in the food processor, then shook in some cinnamon, and poured in some vanilla. I've used squash, carrots, and cauliflower successfully as veggies. Veggies should already be cooked. Sometimes I also put in a bit of nut butter. I've done it with and without coconut butter, and don't see much difference, but I know others reported that adding the coconut butter made a big difference (texture, I think). Sometimes I add about 1/4tsp baking soda. Batter can also be cooked in a waffle iron - but let it cook quite awhile - do NOT peek before your light goes out (or whatever indicates DONE on your waffle iron) - else you will have big mess. -- Sue, mom to Adam and > Hi Sue.. can I ask which veggie pancake recipe you use. That sounds > like something we might add. I think I remember reading that there > are several maybe and I'd love to know which is good to add veggies > to. Thanks! > in AL > Mom to Slater SCD/dairy free-11 weeks PDD/NOS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2003 Report Share Posted December 31, 2003 The sneaky pancakes are great and we make them every morning. I have used winter squashes, ground beef, ground turkey, chicken and any vegetable I have on hand. This morning I used 1/2 cup ground beef and 1/2 cup green beans to 4 eggs and this made enough for breakfast and lunch. loves her special pancakes and I don't get tired making them because they are a little different every time. I use coconut butter and baking soda in the recipe the texture is better but you can make them without. We use our sweet syrup on them in the morning and use SCD mayo or tahini, or sliced avocado on them for lunch. Carey in WY, mom to 14 yo, HFA, Seizures, mild MR; SCD 10 weeks getting only Thropp's UltraZyme Plus clappcj@... Re: cracker recipe a disaster!!! > I'm pretty sure it is on Pecanbread.com now...yep, I just checked, > its called SNEAKY PANCAKES. When I started making them, I did not > measure, just added a glob of squash to the eggs in the food > processor, then shook in some cinnamon, and poured in some vanilla. > > I've used squash, carrots, and cauliflower successfully as > veggies. Veggies should already be cooked. Sometimes I also put in > a bit of nut butter. I've done it with and without coconut butter, > and don't see much difference, but I know others reported that > adding the coconut butter made a big difference (texture, I think). > > Sometimes I add about 1/4tsp baking soda. Batter can also be cooked > in a waffle iron - but let it cook quite awhile - do NOT peek before > your light goes out (or whatever indicates DONE on your waffle > iron) - else you will have big mess. > > -- Sue, mom to Adam and > > > > Hi Sue.. can I ask which veggie pancake recipe you use. That > sounds > > like something we might add. I think I remember reading that there > > are several maybe and I'd love to know which is good to add > veggies > > to. Thanks! > > in AL > > Mom to Slater SCD/dairy free-11 weeks PDD/NOS > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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