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I'm not sure exercising will help your arm. I lose my arms like that if i

use them for any length of time. For example, holding the phone to my ear

for an extended period or typing on the computer for very long. This is why

I needed an electric chair instead of a manual one. (plus it is more fun).

I thought this was just normal PLS stuff. If anyone knows anything

different, please let us all know. Speaking of fun, you should have seen me

flying down the highway yesterday in my wheelchair, 5 miles per hour with

tagging along. It was fun, but boy did we get some strange looks. My

brother just about died. He can't believe I took it out on the road. It's

just a two lane road and if anything comes, I get to the side. There is

about 2 feet on each side of the road. Fun, Fun, Fun....you can't imagine

the feeling of being free again. Got sunburned too. See ya, Jeanne Ann

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I too have weakness in my arms and hands, primarily my left side. My

neurologist told me not to do any weight bearing exercises especially

lifing dumbells. I believed if I could just keep lifting weights, I could

combat the stiffness, and excessive tendon stretch. I suggest doing light

stretching exercise to try to relieve over stretched muscles and tendons.

The same with legs. Some people seem to gain benefit from doing weight

bearing exercises. I don't. Weight bearing exercises exacerbates muscle

cramping and spasms...doesn't feel so good for a few days. Just keep

stretching and lay off the weights for a while.

At 04:47 PM 3/28/00 +0100, you wrote:

>From: john.clague@...

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>Hi! all,

>just thought i'd tell you about my arm,as it is extremely sore.

>I was in the garden the other day spreading organic fertiliser on my

lawn,the tub weighed in at about 2 kgs.

>It took me some time to do it because

> my arm was aching and i had to keep putting it down.

>I should have known then that i was going to have problems later.After

finnishing my nose became itchy,well could i get my hand up to itchy it,all

that weight and time must have stretched all the muscles and tendons.

>I'm in my third day of pain,it's just starting to ease off.

>I really must get myself some dumbbells and get some strength back.

>Can anybody suggest anything i have no problems normaly with arm

movement,it just made me reallise how unfit my arms are.

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From my understanding, over-stretching or using excessive weights lengthen

muscles and tendons. This can become a chronic problem that will eventually

lead to over lenghthened muscles that are more prone to spasms and

cramps...This is what my physcal therapist told me. Warm compresses (hot

water bottle, heating pad, or warm bath) helps me...but not too hot. Just

warm.

At 08:12 AM 3/28/00 -0800, you wrote:

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>I too have weakness in my arms and hands, primarily my left side. My

>neurologist told me not to do any weight bearing exercises especially

>lifing dumbells. I believed if I could just keep lifting weights, I could

>combat the stiffness, and excessive tendon stretch. I suggest doing light

>stretching exercise to try to relieve over stretched muscles and tendons.

>The same with legs. Some people seem to gain benefit from doing weight

>bearing exercises. I don't. Weight bearing exercises exacerbates muscle

>cramping and spasms...doesn't feel so good for a few days. Just keep

>stretching and lay off the weights for a while.

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>At 04:47 PM 3/28/00 +0100, you wrote:

>>From: john.clague@...

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>>Hi! all,

>>just thought i'd tell you about my arm,as it is extremely sore.

>>I was in the garden the other day spreading organic fertiliser on my

>lawn,the tub weighed in at about 2 kgs.

>>It took me some time to do it because

>> my arm was aching and i had to keep putting it down.

>>I should have known then that i was going to have problems later.After

>finnishing my nose became itchy,well could i get my hand up to itchy it,all

>that weight and time must have stretched all the muscles and tendons.

>>I'm in my third day of pain,it's just starting to ease off.

>>I really must get myself some dumbbells and get some strength back.

>>Can anybody suggest anything i have no problems normaly with arm

>movement,it just made me reallise how unfit my arms are.

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i have had a really bad day but to my remarks about the arm. To comment that

this is normal PLS stuff is i find condiscending to people who have just

joined this site like myself.

I can understand people that have been on this site for a number of years

getting fed up with the usual PLS symptoms,but to a person who has just recently

joined the PLSfriends site.

I'm really bladdered with my day, i can't understand that people with such good

brains can waste their time arguing the toss or is it arguement,can somebody put

the record staight..

To my knowledge nobody should have the same views, it would make life totally

boring?

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From: jeanneannneff@...

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I'm not sure exercising will help your arm. I lose my arms like that if i

use them for any length of time. For example, holding the phone to my ear

for an extended period or typing on the computer for very long. This is why

I needed an electric chair instead of a manual one. (plus it is more fun).

I thought this was just normal PLS stuff. If anyone knows anything

different, please let us all know. Speaking of fun, you should have seen me

flying down the highway yesterday in my wheelchair, 5 miles per hour with

tagging along. It was fun, but boy did we get some strange looks. My

brother just about died. He can't believe I took it out on the road. It's

just a two lane road and if anything comes, I get to the side. There is

about 2 feet on each side of the road. Fun, Fun, Fun....you can't imagine

the feeling of being free again. Got sunburned too. See ya, Jeanne Ann

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,get some 2lbs,dumbells,do wrist exercises as well as arm.do gradual

ex.other wise you will be right back to where you are now,very sore.That

should do it for you,unless you have a problem with your arms.I workout with

2and5lb d.b's they help me considerable,also swim 5-6days a week,you might

try that also.

Good luck,.

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Lavon,

DITTO!

It seems safe to say the everyone has their own exercise regime that works

for them. If unsure, one should consult with their doctor. Everyone seems

to have their own particular needs and capacity.

Thanks too for your " south paw " insight into left-sided weakness. I too am

a " south paw " . I thought my left-sided weakness was because I am left-sided

dominant...guess not. Must be a brain thing.

At 07:08 PM 3/28/00 -0600, you wrote:

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>My understanding is that arm weakness is an expected part of progression.

>I know a number of folks exercise with good results but my PT says that is

>controversial since increased muscle strength may increase spasticity. He

>advised muscle stretching for folks with PLS rather than strengthening.

>Anyone else heard this? Lavon

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Welcome to the world of PLS and the continuing battle to keep strength

somewhere, including between our ears. You can try dumbbells. I would suggest

starting with 5 pounds or less at first (You can do the conversion to metric,

I'm too lazy.) with each arm. Build it up to 2 sets of 10 repetitions each.

When that feels too easy, add more weight. Once you reach 10 to 20 pounds,

just increase the sets and repetitions for a while. That will help you

build the strength and tone the muscle. Going beyond that may be too tiring.

However, if you feel like you can do it, go ahead. Just listen to your

body. It will tell you what you can and cannot do. Don't push, but be patient.

The rewards are there. I have had my legs feel like jelly after riding

my stationary recumbent bicycle for more than the time I was used to. But

after a few hours, I felt stronger walking. I did find out that too much

would cause me to become greatly fatigued. I have fallen asleep on the

bike before. My wife just laughs about these things. As long as I'm safe

and not going to fall, she leaves me alone. Take care and do your best.

It might also help to discuss this with a physical therapist. Mike Gray.

john.clague@... wrote:

From: john.clague@...

Hi! all,

just thought i'd tell you about my arm,as it is extremely sore.

I was in the garden the other day spreading organic fertiliser

on my lawn,the tub weighed in at about 2 kgs.

It took me some time to do it because

my arm was aching and i had to keep putting it down.

I should have known then that i was going to have problems later.After

finnishing my nose became itchy,well could i get my hand up to itchy it,all

that weight and time must have stretched all the muscles and tendons.

I'm in my third day of pain,it's just starting to ease off.

I really must get myself some dumbbells and get some strength back.

Can anybody suggest anything i have no problems normaly with arm

movement,it just made me reallise how unfit my arms are.

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