Re: Link between computer use and MS symptoms?

March 31, 2007

,

I had a lady call me once who said she could could actually see

parasites moving under her skin. She lived in the shadow of a radio

station for many years and had beaten cancer 3 times but it was now

back again. She was moving but only recently found out that there's a

connection with the radiation and that a certain type of parasite

thrives in this. Sorry I can't offer you more details than that. A

friend of a friend of mine sells some devices to protect the home and

person from such stuff. If you like I can find out her website or

phone number.

Sharon

>

> This is really weird, but I notice one of the symptoms I have (a

> crawling under the skin feeling in my left leg) seems to occur most

> often while I am working on my laptop.

>

> I know that doesn't make sense. Even if the laptop emits some

> radiation, it's hard to think the correlation could be that direct as

> to immediately produce a symptoms -- but it does seem to.

>

> Has anyone experienced a symptom increase while on their computers?

>

> I will consider buying some sort of protector for the laptop -- Please

> let me know if anyone knows where to purchase such a device.

>

April 2, 2007

Hi ,

What posistion do you sit in while using your computer? I know when I

sit at my computer my bad hip gives me trouble and I can get weird pains

in my left leg. Mild nerve pain can feel very strange. I just recovered

from a hyper extended knee and the final phase of healing felt like a

cell phone on vibrate was attached to the back of my knee! It was a

really weird feeling and went on for about 2 weeks off and on.

The other thing that comes to mind is lyme disease, people report

feeling of things crawling under their skin all the time with that

illness. What other symptoms do you have, and have you been tested for

lyme?

trekkie323 wrote:

>This is really weird, but I notice one of the symptoms I have (a

>crawling under the skin feeling in my left leg) seems to occur most

>often while I am working on my laptop.

>

April 2, 2007

Hi and all,

I usually have the laptop on my kitchen table, which is glass, and

sit in a chair facing it. As mentioned, the distinct feeling I often

get while at the laptop is a crawling under the skin feeling under

the skin of my left leg. It almost feels like a little inchworm is

under there crawling around. Sometimes I also get this feeling other

times,while not at the computer, but it seems to happen much more

often at the computer.

I was tested for Lyme through blood with " titers " and it came out

negative.

My other symptoms are opitc neuritis/vision loss, feeling like a

rubber band is around my lower left leg, numbness in the left foot

and left hand and fingers that comes and goes, ugency to urinate and

urinating frequent but reduced amounts, and brief electical shock

feelings throughout my body that come and go. At one point I had to

be catheterized because I could not urinate at all. But that has

gotten better.

Fun, huh?

Do you think there's any chance this is Lyme rather than MS?

My last MRI (and only MRI) which was of the brain and cervical and

thoracic spine showed no lesions. My visual evoked potentials,

however, were abnormal, and my neuro diagnosed my with demyelination

and optic neuritis. However, he did not want to to diagnose me with

MS because there were no lesions at that time. He told me to get MRIs

done again 3 months after the first ones (it has been 4 months now),

but I haven't had the MRIs again for two reasons: One, I heard MRIs

reduce bone density and two, I don't care if there are lesions or

not, as much as I care about getting rid of this disease.

However, there is a small part of me lately thinking about getting

the repeat MRIs out of curiosity.

Please give me any opionions you may have.

Thanks,

-- In mscured , " Kindscher (Charter) "

wrote:

>

> Hi ,

>

> What posistion do you sit in while using your computer? I know when

I

> sit at my computer my bad hip gives me trouble and I can get weird

pains

> in my left leg. Mild nerve pain can feel very strange. I just

recovered

> from a hyper extended knee and the final phase of healing felt like

a

> cell phone on vibrate was attached to the back of my knee! It was a

> really weird feeling and went on for about 2 weeks off and on.

>

> The other thing that comes to mind is lyme disease, people report

> feeling of things crawling under their skin all the time with that

> illness. What other symptoms do you have, and have you been tested

for

> lyme?

>

April 2, 2007

neuro diagnosed my with demyelination

and optic neuritis. However, he did not want to to diagnose me with

MS because there were no lesions at that time.

All your symptoms sound like MS to me, I am not a Dr but have lived with MS

since 1973 and have met many MS people.

When I was Dx'd I was told 99% of people with optic neuritis end up with MS,

I have never had any tests, all these tests just make big bucks for Dr and

Neuro's.

MS isn't the end of the world.

.

April 2, 2007

Hi

Unless you saw a LLMD (Lyme Literate Dr) and had a Western Blot through Igenex

labs, you could very well test negative. Regular docs don't know much about

lyme if they even believe it exists. They also rely on CDC guidelines to

interpret the test and the CDC is outdated by at least 11 years.

If you want to get tested accurately see an LLMD and get tested through Igenex.

be well,

Arlene

-------------- Original message --------------

> Hi and all,

>

> I usually have the laptop on my kitchen table, which is glass, and

> sit in a chair facing it. As mentioned, the distinct feeling I often

> get while at the laptop is a crawling under the skin feeling under

> the skin of my left leg. It almost feels like a little inchworm is

> under there crawling around. Sometimes I also get this feeling other

> times,while not at the computer, but it seems to happen much more

> often at the computer.

>

> I was tested for Lyme through blood with " titers " and it came out

> negative.

>

> My other symptoms are opitc neuritis/vision loss, feeling like a

> rubber band is around my lower left leg, numbness in the left foot

> and left hand and fingers that comes and goes, ugency to urinate and

> urinating frequent but reduced amounts, and brief electical shock

> feelings throughout my body that come and go. At one point I had to

> be catheterized because I could not urinate at all. But that has

> gotten better.

>

> Fun, huh?

>

> Do you think there's any chance this is Lyme rather than MS?

>

> My last MRI (and only MRI) which was of the brain and cervical and

> thoracic spine showed no lesions. My visual evoked potentials,

> however, were abnormal, and my neuro diagnosed my with demyelination

> and optic neuritis. However, he did not want to to diagnose me with

> MS because there were no lesions at that time. He told me to get MRIs

> done again 3 months after the first ones (it has been 4 months now),

> but I haven't had the MRIs again for two reasons: One, I heard MRIs

> reduce bone density and two, I don't care if there are lesions or

> not, as much as I care about getting rid of this disease.

>

> However, there is a small part of me lately thinking about getting

> the repeat MRIs out of curiosity.

>

> Please give me any opionions you may have.

>

> Thanks,

>

> --

April 2, 2007

Hi ,

I think it would be advisable to get repeat MRI's so you know for sure

what you're dealing with.

All the best,

Dudley Delany

http://profiles.yahoo.com/dudley_delany

April 2, 2007

Hi ,

If you are sitting while at the computer its highly likely that what you

are feeling is nerve related. The tight band feeling around your leg is

definately nerve related as I had and still do on occaison have that. I

just recently fell and my hip was really bothering me again and I went

and had it adjusted. I don't think he did it right cause I have been

having the nerve pain in my shin area and ankle for the last few day. I

was sitting at a conference though and sitting for long periods always

aggravates my hip problem. Get your sciatica checked to rule out nerves

getting pinched.

Then I would take Arlenes suggestions and get tested through Igenix labs

or Bowen labs because they are the only ones coming in with accurate

lyme disease test results. I had all the symptoms that you are

describing and that is what I had. As I have said many times before In

my opinion MS is not a disease unto itself, its just many different

symptoms that can have many root causes. When they see these many

symptoms lumped together they call it MS. Many people I know had the

diagnosis of MS and really have Lyme disease. I also know some with

Diagnosis of MS who had mercury problems, and other who had severe back

problems and spinal misalignments that were diagnosed with MS. When

people get these things dealt with they no longer have the symptoms and

no longer have the diagnosis of MS anymore. IF you are diagnosed with

Cancer they can see a tumor and then when its gone they can say the

cancer is gone, but with MS there is really nothing to see. The lesions

that some people get could have many reasons for being there.

trekkie323 wrote:

>Hi and all,

>

>I usually have the laptop on my kitchen table, which is glass, and

>sit in a chair facing it. As mentioned, the distinct feeling I often

>get while at the laptop is a crawling under the skin feeling under

>the skin of my left leg. It almost feels like a little inchworm is

>under there crawling around. Sometimes I also get this feeling other

>

April 2, 2007

, try a search for Larry the compounder. Then hit Klenner protocol. These

are shots of thiamine and liver injections that are intramuscular. It is easy to

do them yourself. You can cal a gentlemen Dale Humprey and he has eradicated all

his neurological symptoms for over 40 years. I would try it if it weren't for

the EAP I take and LDN. Best, Kathy