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In a message dated 12/2/2004 5:12:51 PM Pacific Standard Time,

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Would like to know how to keep implant safety, with all kind of

screening devices around, in airports, shops, etc. thanks, Dino

good question Dino,,, I am a paralegal student and spend quite a few times

at the court house, I get beeped alot, I swear they are starting to " like " me!

I walk through it with CI on. Your implant should be fine. It will help

to have your implant card ready in case if you have question or concern. At

one time I " heard " that the screening wipe your program out, but it appears to

be a myth as I have known of no one losing their program. It could be on

older model but not on newer that I know of. If there is any " fact " , please do

correct me.

The only concern you have is static electricity. If you are exposed alot

especially in winter time, there are ways to cut it down, such as use Bounce in

your dryer, canned anti-cling, take off processor while on plastic swing are

a few ideas.

Hope it helps,

Lee

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From Cochlears web site: http://www.cochlearamericas.com/Recipients/323.asp

You may occasionally perceive intermittent buzzing or distorted speech.

Electromagnetic (EMI) may temporarily affect the operation of your speech

processor and transmitting cables. Electromagnetic fields of different

strengths are produced by almost all types of electronic devices. The

headset cables, like antennae, pick up environmental electromagnetic fields.

The speech processor attempts to process these signals as environmental

sounds. The EMI will be no louder than your programmed comfort levels and

will not hurt you or damage your speech processor.

Common sources of EMI include:

Radio tranmission towers

TV transmission towers

Shopping center security systems

Airport security systems

Some digital mobile telephones

However other electronic devices that are sources of EMI may not be readily

visible. If you hear intermittent buzzing or distorted speech, look for

electronic equipment that may be a source of EMI and move away from it. If

you hear constant buzzing or distorted speech please contact your clinic.

The Nucleus implants have been carefully designed to protect users from most

sources of EMI. The Nucleus implants cannot be affected by EMI and cannot

send unprocessed electrical signals to the electrode array.

implant safety

Would like to know how to keep implant safety, with all kind of

screening devices around, in airports, shops, etc. thanks, Dino

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Dino,

You should not experience any problems with the implant in shops or airports.

There is no danger with the CI. There's a very slight possibility that the

implant could set off the security alarm but you carry a card that tells them

all about the CI and by the time this happens, we are ususally very well versed

on our implants and take the opportunity to show them off. We get the chance to

train people who never heard of them.

Alice

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I don't know why any woman who knows the risks of implants like Kolb does would want to use her body as an experiment to see whether or not she might get sick from implants. It seems over-the-top to me. I commend Kolb for her wonderful work to help women, but I will always wonder about someone who gives the green light to ANY kind of implants, with the caveat that taking certain steps might prevent illness. I just don't buy it. Since we still don't know exactly what it is that causes illness from implants, it's like playing roulette with one's health, saline or no. The idea that spending time, money and energy on foot baths, supplements, aromatherapy, etc. so that we might not get sick from a pair of FAKE boobs is crazy.

The deeper issue is why we are compelled to go to such lengths to get these implants in the first place. For some of us (myself included), becoming ill from them forced me to examine my own self-worth and why I felt I had to have bigger breasts to be "okay."

Bindi

Implant safety

Patty,I have spoken with Dr. Kolb on the phone and via email as well, at greatlength. I am not giving the impression that any implant is safe, that isnot what I have said. It is a fact that many women are healthy with theirimplants and Dr. Kolb told me that if certain steps are taken, illnessMIGHT be prevented. For women who react to the composition of the implant,nothing can be done to prevent such a reaction. Implants were neverreferred to as safe.Kenda> Dr. Kolb is a knowledgeable expert on breast implants. I have talked to her> by phone, email and on this forum, and I've heard her discuss some of her> health concerns....so I know that with salines she is not "healthy" in the> sense that she is completely without symptoms since she has had them. I would> be careful about giving the impression that salines are safe when someone has> had silicone gel and been ill before. Many of these women continue to have> health issues to varying degrees.> > Dr. Kolb is also a licensed holistic doctor, and I believe she treats herself> for any remaining symptoms using the holistic therapies we've discussed. She> has been able to mediate them with essential oils, supplements and other> therapies, and so strike a balance with her implants that she is content to> live with. That is certainly her choice, and she has often said that she> considers her implant experience to be one of a self-experiment so she can> better understand what her patients are dealing with.> Patty>

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-Bindi,

It does sound a little like enstein doesn't it/ I know she does

alot for her patients and helps by sticking her neck out there but at

the same time I didn't know she still had implants until I read the

posts yesterday. That did surprise me.

Terri P

-- In , " freebindi " <bindi@...> wrote:

>

> I don't know why any woman who knows the risks of implants like

Kolb does would want to use her body as an experiment to see whether

or not she might get sick from implants. It seems over-the-top to me.

I commend Kolb for her wonderful work to help women, but I will

always wonder about someone who gives the green light to ANY kind of

implants, with the caveat that taking certain steps might prevent

illness. I just don't buy it. Since we still don't know exactly what

it is that causes illness from implants, it's like playing roulette

with one's health, saline or no. The idea that spending time, money

and energy on foot baths, supplements, aromatherapy, etc. so that we

might not get sick from a pair of FAKE boobs is crazy.

>

> The deeper issue is why we are compelled to go to such lengths to

get these implants in the first place. For some of us (myself

included), becoming ill from them forced me to examine my own self-

worth and why I felt I had to have bigger breasts to be " okay. "

> Bindi

> Implant safety

>

>

> Patty,

>

> I have spoken with Dr. Kolb on the phone and via email as well,

at great

> length. I am not giving the impression that any implant is safe,

that is

> not what I have said. It is a fact that many women are healthy

with their

> implants and Dr. Kolb told me that if certain steps are taken,

illness

> MIGHT be prevented. For women who react to the composition of the

implant,

> nothing can be done to prevent such a reaction. Implants were

never

> referred to as safe.

>

> Kenda

>

> > Dr. Kolb is a knowledgeable expert on breast implants. I have

talked to her

> > by phone, email and on this forum, and I've heard her discuss

some of her

> > health concerns....so I know that with salines she is

not " healthy " in the

> > sense that she is completely without symptoms since she has had

them. I would

> > be careful about giving the impression that salines are safe

when someone has

> > had silicone gel and been ill before. Many of these women

continue to have

> > health issues to varying degrees.

> >

> > Dr. Kolb is also a licensed holistic doctor, and I believe she

treats herself

> > for any remaining symptoms using the holistic therapies we've

discussed. She

> > has been able to mediate them with essential oils, supplements

and other

> > therapies, and so strike a balance with her implants that she

is content to

> > live with. That is certainly her choice, and she has often said

that she

> > considers her implant experience to be one of a self-experiment

so she can

> > better understand what her patients are dealing with.

> > Patty

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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Bindi,

I agree with you about getting to the root of those deeper issues and being able to examine the basis for our own self worth.

For me, it was the search for and discovery of my own Holy Grail--the cup of life that led to my rebirth and discovery of the beauty within. Oh man, was that the best thing that ever happened to me! Talk about liberty! I can honestly now say," I am OKAY. I love myself for what God made me to be." I'm done searching for "something" to make me better on the outside. The outside is just a shell anyway. It's what's on the inside that is forever.

Yes, this is the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. It's quite a storm we go through, but there is a treasure to be found if you know how and where to look. This is what makes me want to shout Hallelujah, I'm free! found this freedom too. It's awesome.

Patty

Implant safety

Patty,I have spoken with Dr. Kolb on the phone and via email as well, at greatlength. I am not giving the impression that any implant is safe, that isnot what I have said. It is a fact that many women are healthy with theirimplants and Dr. Kolb told me that if certain steps are taken, illnessMIGHT be prevented. For women who react to the composition of the implant,nothing can be done to prevent such a reaction. Implants were neverreferred to as safe.Kenda> Dr. Kolb is a knowledgeable expert on breast implants. I have talked to her> by phone, email and on this forum, and I've heard her discuss some of her> health concerns.... so I know that with salines she is not "healthy" in the> sense that she is completely without symptoms since she has had them. I would> be careful about giving the impression that salines are safe when someone has> had silicone gel and been ill before. Many of these

women continue to have> health issues to varying degrees.> > Dr. Kolb is also a licensed holistic doctor, and I believe she treats herself> for any remaining symptoms using the holistic therapies we've discussed. She> has been able to mediate them with essential oils, supplements and other> therapies, and so strike a balance with her implants that she is content to> live with. That is certainly her choice, and she has often said that she> considers her implant experience to be one of a self-experiment so she can> better understand what her patients are dealing with.> Patty>

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I agree with you completely, Bindi. Bigger breasts are not something any

woman should jeopardize her health for. Some women are willing to because

implants give them better self esteem. I'd rather develop the self esteem

on my own. The aging female body should be viewed as beautiful, not as

though something about it is wrong or needs " repairing " .

Kenda

> I don't know why any woman who knows the risks of implants like Kolb does

> would want to use her body as an experiment to see whether or not she might

> get sick from implants. It seems over-the-top to me. I commend Kolb for her

> wonderful work to help women, but I will always wonder about someone who gives

> the green light to ANY kind of implants, with the caveat that taking certain

> steps might prevent illness. I just don't buy it. Since we still don't know

> exactly what it is that causes illness from implants, it's like playing

> roulette with one's health, saline or no. The idea that spending time, money

> and energy on foot baths, supplements, aromatherapy, etc. so that we might not

> get sick from a pair of FAKE boobs is crazy.

>

> The deeper issue is why we are compelled to go to such lengths to get these

> implants in the first place. For some of us (myself included), becoming ill

> from them forced me to examine my own self-worth and why I felt I had to have

> bigger breasts to be " okay. "

> Bindi

> Implant safety

>

>

> Patty,

>

> I have spoken with Dr. Kolb on the phone and via email as well, at great

> length. I am not giving the impression that any implant is safe, that is

> not what I have said. It is a fact that many women are healthy with their

> implants and Dr. Kolb told me that if certain steps are taken, illness

> MIGHT be prevented. For women who react to the composition of the implant,

> nothing can be done to prevent such a reaction. Implants were never

> referred to as safe.

>

> Kenda

>

>> Dr. Kolb is a knowledgeable expert on breast implants. I have talked to her

>> by phone, email and on this forum, and I've heard her discuss some of her

>> health concerns....so I know that with salines she is not " healthy " in the

>> sense that she is completely without symptoms since she has had them. I would

>> be careful about giving the impression that salines are safe when someone has

>> had silicone gel and been ill before. Many of these women continue to have

>> health issues to varying degrees.

>>

>> Dr. Kolb is also a licensed holistic doctor, and I believe she treats herself

>> for any remaining symptoms using the holistic therapies we've discussed. She

>> has been able to mediate them with essential oils, supplements and other

>> therapies, and so strike a balance with her implants that she is content to

>> live with. That is certainly her choice, and she has often said that she

>> considers her implant experience to be one of a self-experiment so she can

>> better understand what her patients are dealing with.

>> Patty

>>

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi Ladies - my question is, if we are organic beings and we place

inorganic substances in our body, doesn't the immune system go to

work to " expel " them immediately?

I've spoken with women who have said they are healthy and turns out

they weren't, but had certain symptoms for so long, before and after

implants, that they didn't deem it serious and didn't pinpoint the

dis-ease to be the implants. I just believe we were made the way we

were for a reason, and not to mess with that design may be the best

choice.

Just pondering....... Love, Sunny :) xo

>

> Patty,

>

> I have spoken with Dr. Kolb on the phone and via email as well, at

great

> length. I am not giving the impression that any implant is safe,

that is

> not what I have said. It is a fact that many women are healthy

with their

> implants and Dr. Kolb told me that if certain steps are taken,

illness

> MIGHT be prevented. For women who react to the composition of the

implant,

> nothing can be done to prevent such a reaction. Implants were never

> referred to as safe.

>

> Kenda

>

> > Dr. Kolb is a knowledgeable expert on breast implants. I have

talked to her

> > by phone, email and on this forum, and I've heard her discuss

some of her

> > health concerns....so I know that with salines she is

not " healthy " in the

> > sense that she is completely without symptoms since she has had

them. I would

> > be careful about giving the impression that salines are safe

when someone has

> > had silicone gel and been ill before. Many of these women

continue to have

> > health issues to varying degrees.

> >

> > Dr. Kolb is also a licensed holistic doctor, and I believe she

treats herself

> > for any remaining symptoms using the holistic therapies we've

discussed. She

> > has been able to mediate them with essential oils, supplements

and other

> > therapies, and so strike a balance with her implants that she is

content to

> > live with. That is certainly her choice, and she has often said

that she

> > considers her implant experience to be one of a self-experiment

so she can

> > better understand what her patients are dealing with.

> > Patty

> >

>

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Bindi, I agree with you 100%.

Thank you for sharing along the same lines I was thinking. I highly

encourage any woman contemplating changing her body, to delve into

the " why " ...please love yourself enough to look into the

dangers...and question who is pressuring you to change...chances are

high that it isn't you.

Thanks, again, Bindi...oh, by the way, about my comments on Oprah the

other day, I wanted to tell you that I also respect the work she's

done to help people. What I meant is...lately, I've noticed alot of

talk shows have turned sensationalist (is that a word???) and it just

bothers me. I would like to see " real " issues like women and

children (and their families) suffering from the effects of breast

implants, and other health issues deemed important. I suppose she

has to tip-toe around a bit due to the FDA, etc. I couldn't do that -

guess they'd take my show off the air pretty quickly! That's what I

meant by testing her level of compassion. For the sake of popularity

she is somewhat stifled,

Love and Blessings to You and Yours,

Sunny :) xo

>

> I don't know why any woman who knows the risks of implants like

Kolb does would want to use her body as an experiment to see whether

or not she might get sick from implants. It seems over-the-top to me.

I commend Kolb for her wonderful work to help women, but I will

always wonder about someone who gives the green light to ANY kind of

implants, with the caveat that taking certain steps might prevent

illness. I just don't buy it. Since we still don't know exactly what

it is that causes illness from implants, it's like playing roulette

with one's health, saline or no. The idea that spending time, money

and energy on foot baths, supplements, aromatherapy, etc. so that we

might not get sick from a pair of FAKE boobs is crazy.

>

> The deeper issue is why we are compelled to go to such lengths to

get these implants in the first place. For some of us (myself

included), becoming ill from them forced me to examine my own self-

worth and why I felt I had to have bigger breasts to be " okay. "

> Bindi

> Implant safety

>

>

> Patty,

>

> I have spoken with Dr. Kolb on the phone and via email as well,

at great

> length. I am not giving the impression that any implant is safe,

that is

> not what I have said. It is a fact that many women are healthy

with their

> implants and Dr. Kolb told me that if certain steps are taken,

illness

> MIGHT be prevented. For women who react to the composition of the

implant,

> nothing can be done to prevent such a reaction. Implants were

never

> referred to as safe.

>

> Kenda

>

> > Dr. Kolb is a knowledgeable expert on breast implants. I have

talked to her

> > by phone, email and on this forum, and I've heard her discuss

some of her

> > health concerns....so I know that with salines she is

not " healthy " in the

> > sense that she is completely without symptoms since she has had

them. I would

> > be careful about giving the impression that salines are safe

when someone has

> > had silicone gel and been ill before. Many of these women

continue to have

> > health issues to varying degrees.

> >

> > Dr. Kolb is also a licensed holistic doctor, and I believe she

treats herself

> > for any remaining symptoms using the holistic therapies we've

discussed. She

> > has been able to mediate them with essential oils, supplements

and other

> > therapies, and so strike a balance with her implants that she

is content to

> > live with. That is certainly her choice, and she has often said

that she

> > considers her implant experience to be one of a self-experiment

so she can

> > better understand what her patients are dealing with.

> > Patty

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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-Kenda, I love your words. Aging in North America is treated as a

disease rather than a blessing. I stopped dying my hair last year,

finally, and LOVE my grey hair. I'll be 59 years old on Feb. 15 and

loving every minute of it. The days are scarce where elders are

approached for their wisdom and advice. It's not that way in some

other cultures, so I've read.

I am so grateful to have my own breasts back and my natural grey

hair! Woo Hoooo! You go, Granny! LOL

Love and butterfly kisses, (eyelashes on the cheek - just so I don't

scare anybody!!)

Sunny :) xo

- In , Kenda Skaggs <skaggs@...> wrote:

>

> I agree with you completely, Bindi. Bigger breasts are not

something any

> woman should jeopardize her health for. Some women are willing to

because

> implants give them better self esteem. I'd rather develop the self

esteem

> on my own. The aging female body should be viewed as beautiful,

not as

> though something about it is wrong or needs " repairing " .

>

> Kenda

>

>

> > I don't know why any woman who knows the risks of implants like

Kolb does

> > would want to use her body as an experiment to see whether or not

she might

> > get sick from implants. It seems over-the-top to me. I commend

Kolb for her

> > wonderful work to help women, but I will always wonder about

someone who gives

> > the green light to ANY kind of implants, with the caveat that

taking certain

> > steps might prevent illness. I just don't buy it. Since we still

don't know

> > exactly what it is that causes illness from implants, it's like

playing

> > roulette with one's health, saline or no. The idea that spending

time, money

> > and energy on foot baths, supplements, aromatherapy, etc. so that

we might not

> > get sick from a pair of FAKE boobs is crazy.

> >

> > The deeper issue is why we are compelled to go to such lengths to

get these

> > implants in the first place. For some of us (myself included),

becoming ill

> > from them forced me to examine my own self-worth and why I felt I

had to have

> > bigger breasts to be " okay. "

> > Bindi

> > Implant safety

> >

> >

> > Patty,

> >

> > I have spoken with Dr. Kolb on the phone and via email as well,

at great

> > length. I am not giving the impression that any implant is

safe, that is

> > not what I have said. It is a fact that many women are healthy

with their

> > implants and Dr. Kolb told me that if certain steps are taken,

illness

> > MIGHT be prevented. For women who react to the composition of

the implant,

> > nothing can be done to prevent such a reaction. Implants were

never

> > referred to as safe.

> >

> > Kenda

> >

> >> Dr. Kolb is a knowledgeable expert on breast implants. I have

talked to her

> >> by phone, email and on this forum, and I've heard her discuss

some of her

> >> health concerns....so I know that with salines she is

not " healthy " in the

> >> sense that she is completely without symptoms since she has had

them. I would

> >> be careful about giving the impression that salines are safe

when someone has

> >> had silicone gel and been ill before. Many of these women

continue to have

> >> health issues to varying degrees.

> >>

> >> Dr. Kolb is also a licensed holistic doctor, and I believe she

treats herself

> >> for any remaining symptoms using the holistic therapies we've

discussed. She

> >> has been able to mediate them with essential oils, supplements

and other

> >> therapies, and so strike a balance with her implants that she is

content to

> >> live with. That is certainly her choice, and she has often said

that she

> >> considers her implant experience to be one of a self-experiment

so she can

> >> better understand what her patients are dealing with.

> >> Patty

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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I agree with what you say here Sunny. I don't care if they are

marketed as " inert " . I simply do not believe they either are or

remain " inert " .

The reality if that our immune systems are not all alike...and some

are much more sensitive than others.

It is hard for me to believe that our bodies would not " try to expel

them immediately " . Heck, people who have transplants or " organic "

organs have to take anti-rejection medication.

Plus, I would venture to say that the capsule formation....is our

bodies way or " isolating " the " supposedly inert thing " from the rest

of our body.

> >

> > Patty,

> >

> > I have spoken with Dr. Kolb on the phone and via email as well,

at

> great

> > length. I am not giving the impression that any implant is

safe,

> that is

> > not what I have said. It is a fact that many women are healthy

> with their

> > implants and Dr. Kolb told me that if certain steps are taken,

> illness

> > MIGHT be prevented. For women who react to the composition of

the

> implant,

> > nothing can be done to prevent such a reaction. Implants were

never

> > referred to as safe.

> >

> > Kenda

> >

> > > Dr. Kolb is a knowledgeable expert on breast implants. I have

> talked to her

> > > by phone, email and on this forum, and I've heard her discuss

> some of her

> > > health concerns....so I know that with salines she is

> not " healthy " in the

> > > sense that she is completely without symptoms since she has

had

> them. I would

> > > be careful about giving the impression that salines are safe

> when someone has

> > > had silicone gel and been ill before. Many of these women

> continue to have

> > > health issues to varying degrees.

> > >

> > > Dr. Kolb is also a licensed holistic doctor, and I believe she

> treats herself

> > > for any remaining symptoms using the holistic therapies we've

> discussed. She

> > > has been able to mediate them with essential oils, supplements

> and other

> > > therapies, and so strike a balance with her implants that she

is

> content to

> > > live with. That is certainly her choice, and she has often

said

> that she

> > > considers her implant experience to be one of a self-

experiment

> so she can

> > > better understand what her patients are dealing with.

> > > Patty

> > >

> >

>

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