Guest guest Posted January 31, 2003 Report Share Posted January 31, 2003 Hi Gloria. I'd take it slowly, and give yourself some time to recovery from surgery and radiation before making any drastic changes in your eating patterns. At least that's what I'm doing. I read the post here about caffeine possibly contributing to cancer cells' longevity, but I have enough on my plate right now without getting rid of the mainstay of my diet! I think one thing at a time? You and I are both going through a very stressful time on our bodies. I think things like sugar or caffeine, that may or may not be bad for cancer, hurt you more in the long run than the short run. Another month or two of root beers and candy bars probably won't hurt. You need to recover first; then start making diet changes. At least in my opinion... Jill At 11:20 PM 1/30/2003 -0800, you wrote: >Hi, > I have been reading a lot lately, mainly nutrician >type articles. Many say that sugar is really bad, >especially since cancer cells " feed " on the >fermentation of glucose/sugar. They reccommend that >people cut back as much as possible on sugar intake. >What do others think? I tried to cut out extra sugar, >sweets, etc. for one day, and then in the evening just >had to have a root beer and candy bar. I think I need >to gradually cut back rather then cut out. >Bye for now, >Gloria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2003 Report Share Posted January 31, 2003 At 01:50 PM 1/31/2003 +0000, you wrote: >I don't know the answer but for me (and I am not a chocoholic!), I can >eat fruit and satisfy a hunger for sweets. Pineapple is especially >good if it is a good pineapple. True, but pineapple is full of fructose, too, which might have the same reaction in the body as sugar. I love pineapples too, as well as chocolate! Jill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2003 Report Share Posted January 31, 2003 > Hi, > They reccommend that > people cut back as much as possible on sugar intake. > What do others think? I tried to cut out extra sugar, > sweets, etc. for one day, and then in the evening just > had to have a root beer and candy bar. GLORIA DO YOU like the one in can cool whip well the chocolate and the white is less than 1 g of carbohydrates , i buy them and put on fruits or i get my yogurt and put the cool whip as a topping pretty good because i' like sweets but not all the time also i dont know if you have a heb pantry store in your area i buy the heb diet root beer or parade and they taste pretty good but dont quit your sweet intake all the way if you are still going through chemo you dont need to be nervous or upset why you having it so dont give it all up until you are through than quit totally but take it one step at a time i willlook in my diet book and see on some recipes > ===== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2003 Report Share Posted January 31, 2003 Hi cheryl, Before chemo, I really didn't have a sweet tooth, but during chemo (of course that was through Christmas, so that might have an effect, ha, ha) I craved sweets. Nothing really had any taste, except strong chocolate and sugary things. You are right that it's better to do it a little at a time. I'm off chemo, will start radiation next week. I'll be interested in your recipes, especially those that include chocolate. That's another strange thing. Usually, I can't have chocolate because it gives me a migraine headache, but during chemo I could eat lots of chocolate and not get even a little headache...hmmmm, quite strange I'd say. Bye for now, Gloria --- " cheryl " wrote: > > > Hi, > > They reccommend that > > people cut back as much as possible on sugar > intake. > > What do others think? I tried to cut out extra > sugar, > > sweets, etc. for one day, and then in the evening > just > > had to have a root beer and candy bar. > GLORIA > DO YOU like the one in can cool whip well the > chocolate and the white > is less than 1 g of carbohydrates , i buy them and > put on fruits or i > get my yogurt and put the cool whip as a topping > pretty good because > i' like sweets but not all the time also i dont know > if you have a > heb pantry store in your area i buy the heb diet > root beer or parade > and they taste pretty good but dont quit your sweet > intake all the > way if you are still going through chemo you dont > need to be nervous > or upset why you having it so dont give it all up > until you are > through than quit totally but take it one step at a > time i willlook > in my diet book and see on some recipes > ===== > > ===== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2003 Report Share Posted January 31, 2003 Gloria, I have read a lot about breast cancer and sugar. After I first read that sugar fuels the cancer cells, I quit cold turkey. And around our house I'm tempted daily. I just felt that it was in my best interest to stop eating sugar. When they say " sugar " , they mean refined sugar. Some substitutes are honey, molasses and Stevia (a natural sweetener). Also products that are sweetened with fruit juice are OK. The natural juices in fruit is different from refined sugar. If you'd like more info on why they're different, I can try to find it. I feel that I'm lucky in that I had no problem cutting out sugar, coffee, diet soda, red meats, etc. It was like I knew I had to do it and so I did it all at once and cold turkey. God was definitely with me. You have to do what's best for you. Even cutting back is better than nothing. Maybe you can find a substitute for your favorite sweets. I actually bought a Stevia cookbook and have so far tried one muffin recipe. It did have chocolate chips in it and wasn't bad. I actually had to share them with my family. Go figure! Good Luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2003 Report Share Posted January 31, 2003 Oh, and one more thing. I asked my surgeon about the link between sugar and breast cancer and he basically told me it was hogwash. I really wasn't expecting him to confirm it, but wanted to know what he thought. His job is to cut, he's not a nutritionist or anything close. Unless he has a vested, personal interest in the relationship, he isn't going to know about it. I really don't expect the conventional Drs. to have info about nutrition, diet and supplements. He did surprise me though by touting the benefits of Green Tea and Vitamin E. There's hope for him yet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2003 Report Share Posted January 31, 2003 yes I would also like to have some rec. too.....will be looking for them I am one that feels as if I don't get my sugar I'm climbing the walls...... . adoptn wrote:Hi cheryl, Before chemo, I really didn't have a sweet tooth, but during chemo (of course that was through Christmas, so that might have an effect, ha, ha) I craved sweets. Nothing really had any taste, except strong chocolate and sugary things. You are right that it's better to do it a little at a time. I'm off chemo, will start radiation next week. I'll be interested in your recipes, especially those that include chocolate. That's another strange thing. Usually, I can't have chocolate because it gives me a migraine headache, but during chemo I could eat lots of chocolate and not get even a little headache...hmmmm, quite strange I'd say. Bye for now, Gloria --- " cheryl " wrote: > > > Hi, > > They reccommend that > > people cut back as much as possible on sugar > intake. > > What do others think? I tried to cut out extra > sugar, > > sweets, etc. for one day, and then in the evening > just > > had to have a root beer and candy bar. > GLORIA > DO YOU like the one in can cool whip well the > chocolate and the white > is less than 1 g of carbohydrates , i buy them and > put on fruits or i > get my yogurt and put the cool whip as a topping > pretty good because > i' like sweets but not all the time also i dont know > if you have a > heb pantry store in your area i buy the heb diet > root beer or parade > and they taste pretty good but dont quit your sweet > intake all the > way if you are still going through chemo you dont > need to be nervous > or upset why you having it so dont give it all up > until you are > through than quit totally but take it one step at a > time i willlook > in my diet book and see on some recipes > ===== > > ===== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2003 Report Share Posted January 31, 2003 > Hi cheryl, > Before chemo, I really didn't have a sweet tooth, > but during chemo (of course that was through > Christmas, so that might have an effect, ha, ha) I > craved sweets. quite strange I'd say. > Bye for now, > Gloria > --- i had very curly hair and when my hair came back it was straight and i never had a sweet tooth until after chemo now i got to get my weight under control i am a diabetic but not bad enough for medicine i have to go to some classes to what to eat i can keep it under control by diet so i dont have to have shots or pills just no starches or sweets so bad onb my low carb diet again until i go to monroe and i will eat some of that good old cajun cooking of our member doris and i got to have some king cake for mardi gras cheryl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2003 Report Share Posted January 31, 2003 Cheryl, Now I'm getting hungry!! Ok, here's a hair question. My hair is just beginning to come in, mainly in the back. There is a portion that is very, very bald/shiny bald...that is the part that is the " widow's peak " but it is even bigger then before. If that part doesn't grow hair, I will be a very unusual looking human!! Is that typical? Please say it is, ha, ha. Bye for now, Gloria --- " cheryl " wrote: > > > Hi cheryl, > > Before chemo, I really didn't have a sweet > tooth, > > but during chemo (of course that was through > > Christmas, so that might have an effect, ha, ha) I > > craved sweets. quite strange I'd say. > > Bye for now, > > Gloria > > --- i had very curly hair and when my hair came > back it was > straight and i never had a sweet tooth until after > chemo now i got to > get my weight under control i am a diabetic but not > bad enough for > medicine i have to go to some classes to what to eat > i can keep it > under control by diet so i dont have to have shots > or pills just no > starches or sweets so bad onb my low carb diet again > until i go to > monroe and i will eat some of that good old cajun > cooking of our > member doris and i got to have some king cake for > mardi gras > cheryl > > ===== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2003 Report Share Posted February 1, 2003 Gloria, I agree that you should probably take it slowly but starting to eat a well balanced (good for you) diet is never too soon. Eat the good stuff and reward yourself with a bite of the other. You will feel better and your body won't hate you for depriving it! > Hi Gloria. I'd take it slowly, and give yourself some time to recovery from > surgery and radiation before making any drastic changes in your eating > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2003 Report Share Posted February 1, 2003 Maybe, but pineapple helps you to rid your body of waste...it is a good " diuretic " but not excessive and it has bulk for the colon. > >I don't know the answer but for me (and I am not a chocoholic!), I can > >eat fruit and satisfy a hunger for sweets. Pineapple is especially > >good if it is a good pineapple. > True, but pineapple is full of fructose, too, which might have the same > reaction in the body as sugar. I love pineapples too, as well as chocolate! > > Jill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2003 Report Share Posted February 1, 2003 Oh Doris, I know that pineapple is much better food than chocolate! I wasn't advocating chocolate for anyone. I know my diet is terrible and it might well be contributing to my cancer but I'm just not ready to give up certain things. I know I should, though. I was mistaken anyhow when I mentioned that the body ingests all " sugars " the same way. I was thinking of a friend with diabetes, whose doctor told her that carbohydrates like potatoes and candy bars both eventually turn into the same chemicals in the body. That's only relevant for people with diabetes. It probably has nothing to do with cancer. You're right. I'm just too much of a caffeine/chocaholic to quit immediately. Maybe when I'm done with radiation... I really admire you and all the other women on this list who are eating healthy diets. I just don't know how to do that. I have zero willpower. But then again, I've had to work hard to combat eating disorders that stemmed from my abusive childhood. Both my sister and I were anorexic and bulemic over 30 years ago, before anyone knew what it meant. I consider myself lucky to have gotten over those diseases, and at least be able to eat food and keep it down! It's been probably 20 years since I was actually anorexic or bulemic, but I still have a very hard time with food. I refuse to cook except for my daughter and I more or less live on caffeine and rice cakes and sweets. But I'm rambling on here about something which has nothing to do with anything. Congrats (and a tiny bit of envy!) for all you ladies eating right. Maybe I'll learn by osmosis... Jill At 03:14 PM 2/1/2003 +0000, you wrote: >Maybe, but pineapple helps you to rid your body of waste...it is a >good " diuretic " but not excessive and it has bulk for the colon. > > > > > >I don't know the answer but for me (and I am not a chocoholic!), I can > > >eat fruit and satisfy a hunger for sweets. Pineapple is especially > > >good if it is a good pineapple. > > True, but pineapple is full of fructose, too, which might have the same > > reaction in the body as sugar. I love pineapples too, as well as >chocolate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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